Re: [mythtv-users] Multiple Screen Support?

[Jules Bean]

Brandon Sherman wrote:
Yes... quite surprising that there isn't any way to add in support for 
the mouse.  Irony for one of the original Macs, eh? (Don't tell me about 
the Lisa and the Xerox Alto... it is a joke...)


And this would have to be both the backend and the frontend, the way the 
system is being designed.  Not quite enough space for two computers 
here, but MythWifi is neat.


As I understand MythWifi it's quite simply a web front end. A web front 
end doesn't matter which machine it's running on, so there is no 
technical reason it could be run on the same machine that myth was 
running on (but on a different display, otherwise it would be a bit daft).


Jules
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Phill Edwards]

> On this saturday I will have to do a public demo of MythTV at the
> Linuxday 2005 event here in Trento, Italy.
> I will use a DVB card with a Linux frontend and backend and a Mac OS X
> frontend.
>
> I wish to know what version of MythTV it better that I use. All has to
> do a bit stable, because MythTV shouldn't crash in public! :-)
>
> The current SVN version has a bug on LiveTV (i sent a ticket and a
> message to dev list) that hangs Mythfrontend with a segmentation fault
> error. Will this bug be solved before Saturday?
>
> If I can't use the latest SVN, what version in the SVN it's better to
> use to make a demo of MythTV?

If you're doing a public demo I think you'd had to be nuts to use
anything other than the latest stable release - which is 0.18.1.
Despite what one of the other posters said, 0.18.1 runs very well and
there are many of us on this list running it quite happily on FC3 and
FC4, for example. The reason for that is that Jarod Wilson's guide is
the best to get a MythTV system up and running and it uses FC3 or FC4
and ATRPMs for binary RPMs.

Good luck - hope it goes well.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] BE not recording, log snippet - any ideas?

[Nick]

On 23/11/05, Steve Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  My FE/BE has been  skipping some new recordings lately, much to the dismay
> of my lovely bride and to the glee of my friends who gloat about how their
> TiVos never skip a beat (liars).
>
>  These have been new episodes, and they show up in MythWeb's "Scheduled
> Recordings" page as upcoming, but for example Monday's episode of Surface
> did not record.  Fortunately, I had been running mythbackend -verbose, and
> piping its output to a text file.  Here is what I noticed:
>
>  I'll ask for help here rather than at the end, as the log is a bit lengthy.
>  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

In your recording profiles, how many episodes have to got specified to
keep (and record) and how many episodes do you have in your recordings
list? What happens if you disable the jobs queue?

Nick
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[mythtv-users] LIRC with USB remote control: how?

[Enrico Ballarin Dolfin]

Hi

I'm trying to configure my USB remote control, delivered together with my PC
(HP Pavilion w5180.ch), to use it inside MythTV. To do it, the remote
control has to be accessible through LIRC, that seems to require a serial
device instead of a USB one.

When I connect to the PC the USB receiver of my remote control, I can see
with "dmesg" following generated lines:

usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [3353:3713] on usb-:00:1d.0-1
input: USB HID v1.10 Device [3353:3713] on usb-:00:1d.0-1

When I have an terminal window open and I press the buttons of the remote
control, characters are displayed on the terminal window e.g. 1 till 9 if I
press the numerical buttons or a few character sequences for other buttons.

I'm using my HP Pavilion w5180.ch running SuSE 9.3.

How can I configure my remote control device to work with LIRC?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Enrico

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Re: [mythtv-users] bttv audio / snd_bt87x guide?

[Alan]

> Don't want to discourage you from pursuing this, but I've NEVER had
> luck with snd-bt87x btaudio OR any related anything on those bttv

As an aside, what *is* a recommended second (lower budget) card?  I'd
rather not shell out for another pvr350, is there something that's a bit
lower than it, but will still work properly and is well supported?

TIA

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[mythtv-users] How to stop a playing Movie with a Function() call?

[Suchit Rout, Noida]

I have been studying the code of
mythtv for a while now.

I understand that while a movie is
being played in mythfrontend, a loop in tv_play.cpp gets on executing.

 

While a movie is being played, if
I press the "Esc" button, the movie stops playing and MythTV returns
to the screen where we have

 

 * Watch Recordings

 * etc etc

 

Now, what I wanna do is simulate
this "Esc pressing" with the help of a single function call that can
cause the movie to stop and make MythTV return to the above mentioned screen.
Due to my poor knowledge in QT I am unable to solve the problem in hand.

 

Can anyone help me figure this
out?

 

 

I would like to run a thread
alongwith the RunMainLoop (if i am correct) in tv_play.cpp that wuold keep on
checking for some signal (not exactly signal per se, it could be a change in
value in a database table etc).

the moment I detect that change,
my function is called and the movie play stops, making MythTV to return to the
abov screen.

 

 

 

Regards,

sr

 






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[mythtv-users] Re: FC4 and HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest kernel

[Jason Sharpe]

Hey David,
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
I am glad I could provide a chuckle ?!?.
 
Anyway, the first time I installed FC4 it always referred to it as a HD3000 when it loaded the frontend even with the latest kernel. Any reason why that might have changed? Should I just go ahead and proceed with Myth like usual? 

 
I am just trying to understand what would have changed in the kernel from a month ago that now it is being referred to differently...
 
Hey, you don't learn unless you ask..:)
 
Jason
 
--Message: 19Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:14:17 -0500From: "David Ellis" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] FC4 and HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest   kernelTo: "'Discussion about mythtv'" <
mythtv-users@mythtv.org>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"For each capture card there is a tuner chip that actually tunes to the
correct channel, and an encoder that actually encodes the content receivedinto MPEG or V4l raw stream (this is a beginners interpretation but more orless correct)In this case you have a Oren Encoder (or more likely Oren Compatible
Encoder), and a Thompson Tuner that is combined into an HD 3000 card.David_From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason SharpeSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:02 PMTo: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] FC4 and HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest kernelHello All,As soon as I start to trick myself into believing that I am actuallystarting to get the hang of this (Been tinkering with Linux for about 3
months or so, Myth about a month) something comes along and makes me think Icouldn't pour water out of a boot if there were instructions written on thebottom of it.Anyway, here is my hardware (however I think it is a software issue):
AMD64 3200+ (Dual Core)2 Gig RamMSI K8N Neo4 MoboNvidia 6600 256MegHD-3000 (for OTA HD)1 Terabyte of HD SpaceI had this hardware up and running with Myth for the past week or two just
tinkering to learn/play and it was working pretty well.  Because I did somuch "playing" with it, along with getting a DCT-6208 yesterday I wanted toadd (I know you don't have to wipe clean to add a source), plus I just
wanted more experience with Linux and Myth. I reinstalled FD4 this afternoonfrom scratch.I followed Jarod's guide the first time and it went pretty smooth. TheHD-3000 was recognized and worked pretty much as close to "out of the box"
as you can get.Now I am having an issue with FC4 and the latest kernel. I use the DVD ISOto install FC4 x86 choosing the packages that Jarod lists. This installskernel 2.6.11-1.1369smp. When I finish the initial boot setup (enabling NTP
and setting up a user, etc) I log into X and look at the dmesg. (ie. NOTHINGhas been done to configure/customize anything)Here is what it says:**
cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.4 loadedcx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV[card=22,autodetected]ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:
07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) ->IRQ 233cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:0xfc00cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb cardDVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).
DVB: registering frontend 0 (pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV)...cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loadedACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) ->IRQ 233cx88[0]/0: found at :01:
07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:0xfb00tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0So it sees the pcHDTV HD3000 and creates /dev/dvb like it should.
then I run "yum upgrade kernel kernel-smp kernel-smp-dev"It downloads and installs kernel 2.6.14-1.1637.  I reboot into that new SMPkernel and again look at dmesg after logging into X.
It reads:cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.5 loadedCORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV
[card=22,autodetected]TV tuner 52 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1feACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) ->
IRQ 233cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:0xfc00cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb cardDVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).DVB: registering frontend 0 (Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend)...
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loadedACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) ->IRQ 233cx88[0]/0: found at :01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:
0xfb00tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))cx88[0]/0: register

Re: [mythtv-users] Burn CD-AUDIO

[Chris Ribe]

It's dangerous to assert a negative, but...

I don't think so.On 11/21/05, Matteo Manzinello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [mythtv-users] bttv audio / snd_bt87x guide?

[Alan]

> Don't want to discourage you from pursuing this, but I've NEVER had
> luck with snd-bt87x btaudio OR any related anything on those bttv
> cards.  The audio out to line-in/Mic-in are the only way I've been
> able to get it to work, but the audio always has a hum (I have
> searched far a wide for decent 3.5mm stereo cables but they don't
> exist for a decent price), sometimes the hum is very faint, other
> times is screeching so bad I have to simply delete and re-record the
> program and hope it doesn't get too bad that time.

That sucks... The card I can take back if it doesn't work (I made sure
of that before hand), I was hoping that I could use it as a cheap second
tuner though.  Bah.  I did figure there were enough docs out there that
there must be some people that were using it successfully!  Oh well,
I'll keep plugging along until I either get it, someone here posts a
brilliant solution, or I take back the card and live with only one tuner
or spring for a bigger/better one like the pvr500.

Thanks.

alan

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Re: [mythtv-users] Downgrading SVN version

[Kyle Kelly]

Mattia Martinello wrote:

Hi,

How I can download a specified version of SVN version of MythTV? With

svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv

I can donwload only the latest version, that has some bugs...

Thank you very much!
Bye
Mattia


You're probably looking for this:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/159382?do=post_view_threaded#159382

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Re: [mythtv-users] Graphics card recommendation

[Bob]

Mike Robinson wrote:

Bryan Halter wrote:

well I'd probably go with the fx 6xxx series for PCI-E.  I'm very 
pleased with my AGP and PCI fx5200s and wouldn't dream of switching to 
ATI


Would you recommend getting a PCI FX5200 and a motherboard with PCIe in 
case I want to upgrade in the future?


Get both, ASRock 939Dual-SATA2: With AGP and PCIe (and IDE)
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050916/index.html

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RE: [mythtv-users] FC4 and HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest kernel

[David Ellis]

 

For each capture card there is a tuner
chip that actually tunes to the correct channel, and an encoder that actually
encodes the content received into MPEG or V4l raw stream (this is a beginners interpretation
but more or less correct)

 

In this case you have a Oren Encoder (or
more likely Oren Compatible Encoder), and a Thompson Tuner that is combined
into an HD 3000 card.

 

David

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Sharpe
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005
10:02 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] FC4 and
HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest kernel



 



Hello All,

As soon as I start to trick myself into believing that I am actually starting
to get the hang of this (Been tinkering with Linux for about 3 months or so,
Myth about a month) something comes along and makes me think I couldn't pour
water out of a boot if there were instructions written on the bottom of it. 

Anyway, here is my hardware (however I think it is a software issue):

AMD64 3200+ (Dual Core)
2 Gig Ram
MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo
Nvidia 6600 256Meg 
HD-3000 (for OTA HD)
1 Terabyte of HD Space 

I had this hardware up and running with Myth for the past week or two just
tinkering to learn/play and it was working pretty well.  Because I did so
much "playing" with it, along with getting a DCT-6208 yesterday I
wanted to add (I know you don't have to wipe clean to add a source), plus I
just wanted more experience with Linux and Myth. I reinstalled FD4 this
afternoon from scratch. 

I followed Jarod's guide the first time and it went pretty smooth. The HD-3000
was recognized and worked pretty much as close to "out of the box" as
you can get.

Now I am having an issue with FC4 and the latest kernel. I use the DVD ISO to
install FC4 x86 choosing the packages that Jarod lists. This installs
kernel 2.6.11-1.1369smp. When I finish the initial boot setup (enabling NTP and
setting up a user, etc) I log into X and look at the dmesg. (ie. NOTHING has
been done to configure/customize anything)





 





Here is what it says: 





 





**











 





cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.4 loaded
cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV [card=22,autodetected]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 233 
cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:
0xfc00
cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb card
DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).
DVB: registering frontend 0 (pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV)... 
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 233
cx88[0]/0: found at :01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:
0xfb00 
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])
tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))
cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0 





 













 





So it sees the pcHDTV HD3000 and creates /dev/dvb like it should.





 





then I run "yum upgrade kernel kernel-smp kernel-smp-dev"





 





It downloads and installs kernel 2.6.14-1.1637.  I reboot into
that new SMP kernel and again look at dmesg after logging into X.





 





It reads:





 


















cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.5 loaded
CORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV
[card=22,autodetected]
TV tuner 52 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17 
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 233
cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:
0xfc00
cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb card
DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).
DVB: registering frontend 0 (Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend)...
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 233 
cx88[0]/0: found at :01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio:
0xfb00
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])
tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))
cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2] 
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0





 

















 





My question is, why does it detect the board as a "Oren OR51132
VSB/QAM Frontend"? It does still create /dev/dvb. The new kernel appears
to be using the 0.0.5 DVB drivers so I am going to guess that is what is
causing the difference in naming. Is there any issues with that? I plan to use
it for OTA HD only. 





 





Also, what in the heck is a "Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC)"?
It lists that on both k

[mythtv-users] Waiting for fifos... mythtranscode and nuvexport

[chris]

I'm making some progress in my attempts to find out why I can't export 
recordings to VCD.  In spite of claims that the problem is with ffmpeg 
or yuvdenoise, I've found that the problem is actually a fault with 
mythtranscode.  I tried using nuvexport as-is and have also done 
'nuvexport --debug' and ran the commands individually.  For some of the 
recordings the mythtranscode program is silently aborting without 
writing any error messages.  For others it works fine and the export 
succeeds.  According to nuvinfo the files are essentially identical in 
format.  I have tried running 'mythcommflag --rebuild' on the files and 
it doesn't help.  I can watch all of them on the frontend.

Is there any hidden argument that will make mythtranscode more verbose? 
The --showprogress argument does *nothing* as far as I can see.

I am running 0.18.1-5 on Debian.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Multiple Screen Support?

[Brandon Sherman]

Yes... quite surprising that there isn't any way to add in support  
for the mouse.  Irony for one of the original Macs, eh? (Don't tell  
me about the Lisa and the Xerox Alto... it is a joke...)


And this would have to be both the backend and the frontend, the way  
the system is being designed.  Not quite enough space for two  
computers here, but MythWifi is neat.


Brandon

On Nov 23, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Steve Adeff wrote:


On Wednesday 23 November 2005 09:01, David Ellis wrote:
As you found out, using this box as any sort of MythBackend/ 
MythFrontend is
totally out of the question. That said, you CAN use it to control  
your

mythfrontend.

Install any sort of OS with a Web Browser (pick one with driver  
support for

your screen). Then look at something called MythWifi.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Sherman
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:14 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Multiple Screen Support?

I'm eyeing an old Macintosh 512K as the box for my MythTV computer.
I would want to replace the internal CRT display with a touchscreen.
This way, MythTV's control functions are always visible but the video
can be sent to the main TV for games, DVDs, TV, etc.

I hope that makes sense-- a control screen and a display screen, if
you want a very simplified view of it.
Does such functionality exist in MythTV?

Thanks,
Brandon



myth mouse support for touchscreens would be nice though, if only  
for the menu

structure. mouse gestures could be used for non-button actions.

throwing the thought out there as I plan on building a myth  
frontend for my
mom to use in the kitchen (the folks are remodeling) and having a  
touchscreen
for that envorinment would be great (along with a remote control of  
course

for the regular actions).

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD Playback using ATI 9550

[N Dugas]

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 12:13, Tom Dombrosky wrote:


On 11/22/05, N Dugas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Steve Adeff wrote:


On Monday 21 November 2005 16:28, N Dugas wrote:


I've got a myth box that I'd like to do HD playback. It's connected to
a DCT6412. I'd like to re-use a spare ATI 9550 with 256M for this. Is
this possible? Every thing I found suggests I use Nvidia due to
superior drivers.

Thanks,
Norm


what processor?

Steve


Currently: Athlon XP 1800 but I've got an Athlon XP 3000 that may make
it's way into that PC. I'm using the onboard video for playback
currently but HD stutters too much to make it watchable.

This pc:
Asus A7N8X-VM/400
1G OCZ Dual DDR Ram
Athlon XP 1800 CPU
PCI IEEE1394 card

DCT-6412 connected via 1394

Thanks,
Norm


My personal experience has been that nvidia cards work better with myth
than radeons. A lot of people have had success with Radeons so I don't want
to give them a bad reputation. Your onboard video will work with xvmc,
which drastically lowers the cpu requirements for hd decoding. I can do it
easily on an Athlon XP 2000 with xvmc enabled. You would need to use the
nvidia binary drivers though. I recommend sticking with the onboard nvidia
stuff.

Tom



Use the onboard GeForce, drop the XP3000 in as well ;-)

With the 3000 you won't need XvmC, but like what Tom said it will reduce CPU 
requirements. The faster CPU can be used for commercial detect, etc.


Steve
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One more question came to mind.  This onboard video is GeForce 4MX. 
Will this be ok?  I'm going to try XvmC to see what the results are soon 
(hopefully tonight).


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[mythtv-users] Ghosted Audio

[David Aquilina]

Greetings all,

I'm fairly new to MythTV and am experiencing an occasional problem
with ghosting audio. When viewing some previously recorded shows, if
something else is being recorded at the same time I'll hear the audio
from the new recording in addition to the previously recorded show's
audio. Worst yet, it's not a simple pass-through - it appears to
actually be incorporated in the recording and replays exactly the same
each time the recording is played.

Has anyone encountered this before?

Unfortunately, it's not consistent at all. It's most commonly
encountered while watching a recording while something else is being
recorded at the same time, however it doesn't always happen under
those circumstances. It seems to always occur when I attempt to watch
something as it's being recorded.

No settings have been changed between shows with correct audio and
shows with ghosted audio being recorded. For that matter, the system
has not even been rebooted between those shows nor any of the myth
components restarted.

I am using:

- MythTV .18 as pulled from
http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-18-fixes/mythtv on
November 22nd
- Fedora Core 4 (kernel 2.6.14-1.1637_FC4) (x86, NOT x86_64)
- A WinTV bttv capture card
- A Yamaha YMF724 sound card. It both records from the bttv card and
outputs to the speakers.
- The system is a 1.6Ghz Sempron64 with 512M memory, nForce3-based
motherboard, and an 80G ATA hard drive.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If more information is
needed, please let me know and I'd be happy to provide any other
details I might have missed.

Thanks in advance,
David
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Steve Hodge]

On 11/24/05, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a distro that uses gcc 4 by default?  By default, Gentoo uses
> > 3.3 on x86 and 3.4 on AMD64.  It considers gcc 4 too bleeding-edge for
> > production use.
>
> FC4 does by default, ubuntu's latest, and "what is default" on a
> Gentoo box?  ;)  I use GCC 4 there too, by default.

Default is whatever the newest stable ebuild is, i.e. for x86 gcc it's 3.3.6.

Steve
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[mythtv-users] FC4 and HD-3000 DVB vs.QAM Issue in latest kernel

[Jason Sharpe]

Hello All,As soon as I start to trick myself into believing that I am actually starting to get the hang of this (Been tinkering with Linux for about 3 months or so, Myth about a month) something comes along and makes me think I couldn't pour water out of a boot if there were instructions written on the bottom of it. 
Anyway, here is my hardware (however I think it is a software issue):AMD64 3200+ (Dual Core)2 Gig RamMSI K8N Neo4 MoboNvidia 6600 256Meg HD-3000 (for OTA HD)1 Terabyte of HD Space 
I had this hardware up and running with Myth for the past week or two just tinkering to learn/play and it was working pretty well.  Because I did so much "playing" with it, along with getting a DCT-6208 yesterday I wanted to add (I know you don't have to wipe clean to add a source), plus I just wanted more experience with Linux and Myth. I reinstalled FD4 this afternoon from scratch. 
I followed Jarod's guide the first time and it went pretty smooth. The HD-3000 was recognized and worked pretty much as close to "out of the box" as you can get.Now I am having an issue with FC4 and the latest kernel. I use the DVD ISO to install FC4 x86 choosing the packages that Jarod lists. This installs kernel 
2.6.11-1.1369smp. When I finish the initial boot setup (enabling NTP and setting up a user, etc) I log into X and look at the dmesg. (ie. NOTHING has been done to configure/customize anything)
 
Here is what it says: 
 
**

 
cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.4 loadedcx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV [card=22,autodetected]ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 233 
cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio: 0xfc00cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb cardDVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).DVB: registering frontend 0 (pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV)... 
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loadedACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 233cx88[0]/0: found at :01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio: 0xfb00 
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0 

 

 
So it sees the pcHDTV HD3000 and creates /dev/dvb like it should.
 
then I run "yum upgrade kernel kernel-smp kernel-smp-dev"
 
It downloads and installs kernel 2.6.14-1.1637.  I reboot into that new SMP kernel and again look at dmesg after logging into X.
 
It reads:
 


cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.5 loadedCORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV [card=22,autodetected]TV tuner 52 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1feACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ 17
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.2[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 233cx88[0]/2: found at :01:07.2, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio: 0xfc00cx88[0]/2: cx2388x based dvb card
DVB: registering new adapter (cx88[0]).DVB: registering frontend 0 (Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend)...cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loadedACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC2] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 233
cx88[0]/0: found at :01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 233, latency: 32, mmio: 0xfb00tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])tuner 2-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0
 


 
My question is, why does it detect the board as a "Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend"? It does still create /dev/dvb. The new kernel appears to be using the 0.0.5 DVB drivers so I am going to guess that is what is causing the difference in naming. Is there any issues with that? I plan to use it for OTA HD only. 

 
Also, what in the heck is a "Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC)"? It lists that on both kernels. I am going to guess that it is something on the HD-3000 card since there are no other cards/tuners in the box.

 
I just wanted to understand what was going on instead of continuing to configure Myth and find out I need to do something now to save myself some headaches down the road.
 
BTW, Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Jason
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Re: [mythtv-users] bttv audio / snd_bt87x guide?

[Chad]

On 11/23/05, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, I've investigated my setup some more and figure that my issues with
> my knoppmyth setup not giving me sound for video recorded with a second
> wintv-go (bttv based) card.   I think this is due to sound drivers not
> working except for going out directly from the card (out of sync as the
> sound is "raw").
>
> Anyway, there are a lot of pages out there talking about btaudio, snd_bt87x,
> bttv audio, etc.  It seems that btaudio is depricated (and the tarball
> available won't build) and replaced by the snd_bt87x module.  I have
> found the card and tuner values from dmesg, just wondering where in my
> knoppmyth setup to put these options.
>
> Does anyone have their /etc/knoppmyth/modules/bttv they can share, or is
> there a definitive bt87x audio guide somewhere?  My system is pvr350 as
> the main card, a wintv-go as the secondary, with sound working fine
> except for when the 350 is recording and I'm playing live tv from the
> wintv-go.
>
> I *think* that I just need to add a "options tuner type=xxx" (or something
> like that) to that file.  However, if the card is recognized automatically
> (dmesg has a card=xx and tuner=xx in it) wouldn't that mean the system
> already knows about it?
>
> TIA
>
> Alan
>
> --

Don't want to discourage you from pursuing this, but I've NEVER had
luck with snd-bt87x btaudio OR any related anything on those bttv
cards.  The audio out to line-in/Mic-in are the only way I've been
able to get it to work, but the audio always has a hum (I have
searched far a wide for decent 3.5mm stereo cables but they don't
exist for a decent price), sometimes the hum is very faint, other
times is screeching so bad I have to simply delete and re-record the
program and hope it doesn't get too bad that time.

I've since then switched to HD-3000's and just grab all my shows in
HD.  The ones that aren't in HD, I try my luck at as before, but they
are fewer and farther between than my HD shows were.

:)

Good Luck!

Chad
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip

[Chad]

Seems the assumption is that the world falls under the DMCA...

This list is a list for users of MythTV.  Is it not also for the
official modules of MythTV?

If it is, then this is certainly the place to discuss ripping DVD's;
moreso, it's NOT illegal for everyone on earth.

;)

Chad
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[W.Kenworthy]

Not quite true - gcc3.3 is the default - for reasons to do with
stability and compatibility of the code produced.  To "upgrade" to 3.4.4
is easy, check the docs for the way to do it - being gentoo its quite
easy and you can keep using the machine whilst doing it.

GCC4.0 is a different kettle of fish, and from what I can see it
currently produces slower, less efficient code than the gcc 3.x
versions, and had many incompatibilities with current apps though thats
being worked on.  GCC 4.0 is about potential and at some point it will
be "time" to move to it, but its not there yet.  GCC 3.4.x is probably
the pick of the bunch at the moment.

BillK

On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 17:49 -0800, Scott Alfter wrote:
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> 
> Is there a distro that uses gcc 4 by default?  By default, Gentoo uses
> 3.3 on x86 and 3.4 on AMD64.  It considers gcc 4 too bleeding-edge for
> production use.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Chad]

> Is there a distro that uses gcc 4 by default?  By default, Gentoo uses
> 3.3 on x86 and 3.4 on AMD64.  It considers gcc 4 too bleeding-edge for
> production use.
>

FC4 does by default, ubuntu's latest, and "what is default" on a
Gentoo box?  ;)  I use GCC 4 there too, by default.

Chad
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Scott Alfter]

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Michael T. Dean wrote:
> Scott Alfter wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works
>>> with current stable Linux versions.   
>>
>> I must be imagining that my MythTV box is running just fine with 
>> v0.18.1 (the last stable release) on Gentoo (with a
>> reasonably-current kernel), with a PVR-350 and PVR-250 for input.
>> Is your definition of "last stable release" different from what the
>> rest of us are using?
>
> I think he was referring to GCC 4.x compile problems--which, BTW, seem
> to have been fixed in 0.18-fixes (and, therefore, KnoppMyth R5A26)--but,
> GCC is Linux, right?  After all, according to the media, I'm running the
> Linux Operating System...  ;)

Is there a distro that uses gcc 4 by default?  By default, Gentoo uses
3.3 on x86 and 3.4 on AMD64.  It considers gcc 4 too bleeding-edge for
production use.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Stop / Start Athcool just Befor / After a Recording

[Bob]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:33:22 -0500From: Erik Karlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


you could just hijack the channel change "script" functionality andcreate a 
user job when the recording completes. The problem ofback-to-back recordings is still 
possible. maybe some clever filelocking scheme between a channel change (start) and user 
job (end) coulddo the trick.


[There's nothing out there that looks at CPU utilization and leaves
low-power mode if the CPU suddenly looks busy?  Or is the problem
latency?  Laptops do this kind of CPU cycling all the time...  Or
is it that the CPU never looks busy, but recordings are messed up
even so, if done in powersave mode?]


There is CPU frequency scaling for the Athlon 64 users or for laptops, 
the problem is the BIOS on a desktop motherboard doesn't contain the 
necessary PST tables that the list the valid voltage and multiplier 
settings for a given mobile CPU, also most desktop MBs can't change the 
core voltages anyway.


There is an interesting thread on the subject over on the Gentoo forums.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-183519-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html 



There is an apparently working patch for powernow-k7.c (the kernel 
module that does cpu frequency scaling for Athlon XP-Ms) to stop it 
using the ACPI tables of CPU-modes, and instead use a user supplied 
table. There is also a suggestion that the ability to supply your own 
PST table may be included in the vanilla kernel at some point.


The problem is that without voltage scaling, frequency scaling doesn't 
save *that* much power, and Athcool uses different techniques.


I'm trying to get my system as efficient as possible, I use nvclock to 
underclock my GPU and I'd like to use Athcool and the modified powernow 
module. I'm looking for ways to get nvclock to vary my GPU speed 
depending on if the system is idle or playing games or content, and turn 
off Athcool when recording and probably when playing games or content also.


After that all I need is disk-less front ends and spin-down hard-drives 
in the backend and I'll be happy, I'm moving in 3 weeks so all that will 
have to wait till January.



Here's a totally gross idea, but it might work, and could be done with
a tiny shell script.  Assume we start from the powersave state.  The
script loops, once per second, checking the mod-date of the recordings
directory itself.  If it changes, immediately go to non-powersave state.


Eww, I felt dirty just reading that.

8< snip


It would definitely be better if there were hooks for MythTV actions,
though, since using an event-driven style to control this would be
much more reliable and less of a kluge than the polling method above.


Agreed

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tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3416 (type = 14)
(new type Model 401)
model name  : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor
cpu MHz : 2277.214
cache size  : 512 KB
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Re: [mythtv-users] native resolution vs 1080i for HDTV and SD on 1280x768 lcd?

[Dan Christian]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 02:55 pm, Steve Adeff wrote:
> > > Have you fed a 1080i signal to your TV with another device?
> >
> > No, I don't.  That would be very usefull, but all the possible options
> > are $300+.  I don't feel like throwing more money at the problem right
> > now.
> true, I just thought maybe your TV doesn't like 1080i inputs, this would
> close that path of possibilities.
> What TV model is it?

I have a 37in CRT type Panasonic, and a 52in CRT rear projection Sony.  Both 
are pretty new.  Both claim to accept 1080i.  

The Sony is happy with 720p from the 6600Gt.  The Sony displays 1080i from its 
internal tuner just fine.  

The Panasonic can do 540p but not 720p. The Panasonic was supposed to be 
driven from my HD-3000 based PVR, but I never got the tuner to work with over 
the air signals.  I find 540p to be useless for anything but standard def TV.

-Dan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Stop / Start Athcool just Befor / After a Recording

[Bob]

Erik Karlin wrote:

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 09:06:40AM +0800, Bob wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 04:08:29PM +0800, Bob wrote:

Is there a way to run a script just before a recording starts and 
another after it ends, ideally this would be specific to a capture 
source as my next card (PVR 500) may not have this issue?


I don't know how to trigger scripts when a recording starts, and 
managing sequential recordings would be a problem because you could end 
up with a race condition. It would be easier to use a cron job that 
parses http://localhost:6544/xml once per minute and looks for the 
appropriate tuner status:


$ lynx -dump http://localhost:6544/xml | head -n 5

date="11/22/2005" >


hostname="linuxbox" />



You would want to look for the appropriate "Encoder" record and toggle
the external program based on the state field.


That could work, but it's a bit expensive and inelegant.

If it were possible to run a shell script when a recording starts and 
ends, the end script could use your method to check if there is an 
imminent recording and not restart Athcool if there is, that would fix 
the potential race condition you highlighted.


you could just hijack the channel change "script" functionality and
create a user job when the recording completes. The problem of
back-to-back recordings is still possible. maybe some clever file
locking scheme between a channel change (start) and user job (end) could
do the trick.


That's not a bad idea, the other one that occurred to me is doesn't myth 
un-mute the line in at the commencement of a recording and re-mute it at 
the end? Presumably the race condition has been fixed in that script 
already.


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(new type Model 401)
model name  : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor
cpu MHz : 2277.214
cache size  : 512 KB
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Re: [mythtv-users] Capturing 5.1 audio

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 19:59, Bob wrote:
> I hadn't realised that DRM was quite such a "clear and present danger"
> as you 'merkins would say, someone in a non DMCA'd country needs to look
> for a way round this DTCP stuff.

For the people by the corporations
the world will collapse into a black hole if the 'murican media companies are 
forced to enter the late 20th early 21st century, or so our government has 
brainwashed 51%+ of our population to believe


> Got to say though, here in Manila the piracy is so prevalent and so
> cheep that the legitimate video rental firms have all gone out of
> business, I can't hire most movies as the copy in my rental store is
> rubbish quality that look crap on my projector.

but damn is it cheap!


> I strikes me that content does need some protection but not at the
> expense of "fair use" the current laws and protections are an over
> reaction.

private business, they can do what they want. I don't care until they convince 
some stupid government officials to imprison people who try to get around 
them. I didn't submit my will (well, I never did, I was forced to at gun 
point) to allow some media company to decide that they're business should be 
more protected than me

Steve
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[mythtv-users] Re: libmyth-0.18.1-114.rhfc4.at VLD fails an my Via ...

[Axel Thimm]

Can you please test 116? Thanks!

On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 08:22:25AM +, Jules Gosnell wrote:
> Axel Thimm wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:00:42AM +, Jules Gosnell wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Axel Thimm wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>>On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:55:04PM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> On Sunday 20 November 2005 06:53 am, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>  
> 
>    
> 
> >last night I found 113 and 114 SRPMs on an archive site somewhere,
> >unpacked them, applied patches and then diffed them looking for any
> >mention of XvMC - sure enough, I found one :
> >
> >diff -r 113/mythtv-0.18.1/libs/libavcodec/parser.c
> >114/mythtv-0.18.1/libs/libavcodec/parser.c
> >814c814,818
> >< { CODEC_ID_MPEG1VIDEO, CODEC_ID_MPEG2VIDEO },
> >
> > 
> >
> >>   { CODEC_ID_MPEG1VIDEO,
> >> CODEC_ID_MPEG2VIDEO,
> >> CODEC_ID_MPEG2VIDEO_XVMC,
> >> CODEC_ID_MPEG2VIDEO_XVMC_VLD,
> >>   },
> >>   
> >>
> >I unpacked a 115, hacked its patch to undo this change, rebuilt
> >overnight, installed and tested this morning - result - SUCCESS :-) !
> >   
> >
> > 
> >
> >>>Does this imply that building w/o patching resulted in a failure, or
> >>>did you just try that one build. Perhaps it is unrelated, and only a
> >>>build w/o a patch will tell.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>I don't follow...
> >>
> >>113-5 all apply patches as part of the build. Vanilla 113 works for me, 
> >>Vanilla 114/115 don't. All I did was to find a XVMC related difference 
> >>between 113/114 and then remove that difference (from the patch that 
> >>created it) in 115, creating a variant 115 binary which worked for me.
> >>
> >>I know that the vanilla 115 distro does not work for me.
> >>I know that my hacked 115 distro (with a couple of lines removed from 
> >>the svn patch) does work for me.
> >>
> >>I'm assuming that rebuilding a vanilla 115 SRPM would result in a 
> >>vanilla 115 RPM so did not bother with that build.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >The difference is not only in the patches, but also in the
> >environment. I found out that FC's updates overwrote my libviaxvmc
> >lib, so the packages had no VLD support indeed.
> >
> >I assume that if you simply rebuild the 115 sources you'll have
> >success, too.
> > 
> >
> Well, much to my chagrin, Axel, you are right :-)
> 
> I rebuilt the 115 SRPM last night and it works fine.
> 
> I think it probably comes down to the fact that the xorg that I am 
> running includes a unichrome backend along with the relevant C header 
> files, which eclipse those in the xvmc package. I guess these were 
> similar enough for 113 to work without a rebuild, but by 114/115 libmyth 
> needs rebuilding in my environment to work properly...
> 
> Anyway, a successful resolution - apologies for all the wasted bandwidth ...
> 
> Jules
> 
> > 
> >
> >>Is that clearer ?
> >>
> >>Jules
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >I have probably not so much fixed a bug as disabled some code that was
> >enabled in 114, but it works for me - I now have h/w accelerated MPEG2
> >on libmyth-*115* so I am happy.
> >
> >Thanks for the help, Axel.
> >
> >Should I let someone know about this somehow, or will you feedback to 
> >them
> >?
> >   
> >
> > 
> >
> Looks to be an atrpms problem - this code is how it should be in the 
> release-18-fixes branch.
>  
> 
>    
> 
> >>>I think so, too. I'm looking into this, but I have no VLD hardware to
> >>>test with, so I'll be fixing things blindly. Anyway, better than it
> >>>not working at all, and I can verify that non-VLD stuff is still
> >>>working.
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Capturing 5.1 audio

[Bob]

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 03:25, Bob wrote:


What is your source? If it's analogue then chances are it doesn't have
5.1 sound anyway so there's not much point recording it, if it's digital
then you're better off trying to cap the digital stream directly in some
way (as with DVB) so you don't go digital -> analogue -> digital and
incur the quality penalty involved with this.


First. Yes, I do get shows in 5.1, they're called HD and the movie channels 
that send 5.1 (HBO1 and Showtime1 for me).


My goal *IS* to skip the analog step. Right now, to capture from a cable box 
(since my firewire output is limited by 5C, g...) I go thorugh a PVR150 
using svideo and component L/R audio. What I'd LOVE to be able to do is 
record the SPDIF output stream (be it 2.0 or 5.1 digital) and mux it together 
with the video output. I'd love to be able to capture the video via DVI to a 
dedicated mpeg encoder so I could do HDTV, but I'll wait for the hardware to 
be available for that (or 5C gets cracked), and am willing to live with 
svideo and audio via spdif.  I have an old WinTV card (no mpeg encoder) so if 
I can figure out how to have my ALC850 chipset record from my coax SPDIF 
connector and output from the optical SPDIF connector and mux it with CPU 
encoded video from the WinTV I'd be ecstatic. I'd be more ecstatic if I could 
mux it onto the mpeg output from my PVR150 (even as a second audio track 
would be fine).


Steve


I hadn't realised that DRM was quite such a "clear and present danger"
as you 'merkins would say, someone in a non DMCA'd country needs to look
for a way round this DTCP stuff.

Got to say though, here in Manila the piracy is so prevalent and so
cheep that the legitimate video rental firms have all gone out of
business, I can't hire most movies as the copy in my rental store is
rubbish quality that look crap on my projector.

I strikes me that content does need some protection but not at the
expense of "fair use" the current laws and protections are an over reaction.

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tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1236 MK3 (idx = 58, type = 4)
tveeprom: audio_processor = MSP3416 (type = 14)
(new type Model 401)
model name  : mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor
cpu MHz : 2277.214
cache size  : 512 KB
(Plenty o' grunt on an ECS k7s5a MB)
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Jeff Simpson]

Interestingly the author of the article on Mythtv in the latest LinuxJournal considers gentoo to be the easiest distro to get myth running
on.

That I believe. While gentoo is a difficult operating system, it's easier to get myth working because 
of how difficult it is to find binaries of myth, lirc, ivtv, etc that play nicely. Gentoo compiles all of
them from scratch, so they HAVE to work. Makes getting XV to work a breeze, since X11 is all
compiled from scratch anyway, adding a driver in is no big deal.

 - Jeff
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 13:14, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> Alex Vishnev wrote:
> >Thanks for the advice. I did not know that MADAGASCAR was DRM protected.
>
> Technically, any CSS-protected DVD is DRM-protected, and decrypting that
> DVD on anything other than a licensed DVD player is a federal felony
> offense in the US (Digital Millenium Copyright Act)...
>
> Mike

Civil disobedience. It worked for our founding fathers (subsequently made 
illegal by our "elected" officials).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Multiple Screen Support?

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 09:01, David Ellis wrote:
> As you found out, using this box as any sort of MythBackend/MythFrontend is
> totally out of the question. That said, you CAN use it to control your
> mythfrontend.
>
> Install any sort of OS with a Web Browser (pick one with driver support for
> your screen). Then look at something called MythWifi.
>
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Sherman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:14 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Multiple Screen Support?
>
> I'm eyeing an old Macintosh 512K as the box for my MythTV computer.
> I would want to replace the internal CRT display with a touchscreen.
> This way, MythTV's control functions are always visible but the video
> can be sent to the main TV for games, DVDs, TV, etc.
>
> I hope that makes sense-- a control screen and a display screen, if
> you want a very simplified view of it.
> Does such functionality exist in MythTV?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon


myth mouse support for touchscreens would be nice though, if only for the menu 
structure. mouse gestures could be used for non-button actions.

throwing the thought out there as I plan on building a myth frontend for my 
mom to use in the kitchen (the folks are remodeling) and having a touchscreen 
for that envorinment would be great (along with a remote control of course 
for the regular actions).

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] KnoppMyth R5A26

[Lee]

Michael T. Dean wrote:


Lee wrote:


My humble apologies for including a SVN version in R5A22.  It was a
mistake.  This has been rectified alnog with a few other small fixes.

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6944
http://www.mysettopbox.tv/CHANGELOG.txt



Been wondering if I should post this or not, so I'm posting with the 
hope that perhaps it's possible to "head off some problems at the 
pass."  Should someone mention the

   a) danger,
   b) issues, or
   c) proper approach (including downgrading the DB Schema)
of "upgrading" from R5A22 to R5A26?  (Option c being the ideal.)  
Going from anything before R5A22 to R5A26 isn't a problem, but those 
users who upgraded to R5A22 have a database version (somewhere at or 
after 1095) greater than that expected by R5A26 (probably 1083) and 
are likely to have problems with an upgrade to R5A26. 



OK... for the sake of argument, lets say I wiped my R5A22 install and 
installed R5A26 from scratch... but then restored the mythconverg 
database from A22 into my A26 install... Am I screwed?



The restore probably won't work right.  You'll have to edit the 
restore script to deal with things like basename and progstart and 
progend columns in the recorded table (although it's possible MySQL 
will "do its best with what it's got").  Probably many other similar 
issues.


Then, once you get it working, you'll need to rename any recordings 
that use the new filename format (i.e. chanid_starttime.{nuv,mpg}) to 
the old filename format (i.e. chanid_starttime_endtime.nuv).


And then you'd have to take care of any other issues that I haven't 
anticipated...


So, in all, it's probably more work than it's worth.


It may well be more trouble... but hey that's were I am right now :/
The db version is indeed 1095... but all the old recordings are .NUV 
files so no renaming needed...
MySQL reload seemed to have worked OK... and everything seems to be OK 
the moment... (aside from my remote but I think that's a Knoppmyth 
customisation problem...)

So I guess I may be OK until it's time to upgrade?



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Re: [mythtv-users] More HD stuttering

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 14:20, Chris Trown wrote:
>   And combing, for that matter.
>
>   I posted yesterday asking some questions.  I looked into the
> suggestions, but I don't think they apply.  I didn't supply enough info.
> So, here we go.  As much detail as I know.  Hopefully, somebody can
> point me in the right direction.  I'm a bit at a loss as to where to go
> next.
>
>   The system is a 3.06 GHz P4 running Fedora Core 3.  The video Card
> is a NVidia 5200FX.  For capture, all I have is a HD3000.  I've checked
> that DMA is working on all the drives.  I built mythtv from stable
> source, 0.18.1.  I used the following configure options:
>
> --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb
> --dvb-path=/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1381_FC3smp/build/include
> --disable-firewire --disable-joystick --disable-ivtv --enable-proc-opt
> --disable-xvmc-vld --enable-opengl-vsync
>
>   I'm getting stuttering and combing when playing HD.  The CPU is
> maxing out at 99% when playing.  The clips I am testing with are
> 1080i(CSI).  I've tried using XvMC with BOB Deinterlacing filter.  I've
> also tried using libmpeg2 with the kernel and linear blend filter.
> Nothing seems to help and the CPU always goes through the roof.
>
>   Here is the output from "mythfrontend -v playback".  I have "Use
> XvMC for playback" checked and bobdeint filter selected.
>
> 2005-11-22 21:46:49.885 New DB connection, total: 1
> Total desktop width=1280, height=720, numscreens=1
> 2005-11-22 21:46:49.891 Using screen 0, 1280x720 at 0,0
> 2005-11-22 21:46:49.895 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1
> www.mythtv.org
> 2005-11-22 21:46:49.896 Enabled verbose msgs : important general playback
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.016 max_width: 1280 max_height: 720
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.066 Switching to square mode (blue)
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.630 Joystick disabled.
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.688 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.976 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543
> (try 1 of 5)
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.986 Using protocol version 15
> 2005-11-22 21:46:50.997 Starting media monitor.
> 2005-11-22 21:47:10.304 All Programs
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97,
> 1088) ->Interlaced Scan
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088
>   fps: 29.97
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.200 Estimated bitrate = 0
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:
> 0, disphoff: 0
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 1080
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.435 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.155 New DB connection, total: 2
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97,
> 1088) ->Interlaced Scan
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088
>   fps: 29.97
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.288 Estimated bitrate = 0
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.296 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.297 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.307 Over/underscan. V: 0, H: 0, XOff: 0, YOff: 0
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.316 Using XV port 240
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:
> 1280, disphoff: 720
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 1080
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.931 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.933 Using deinterlace method bobdeint
> 2005-11-22 21:47:13.934 Using realtime priority.
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work,
> unimplemented in this driver?
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device
> /dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Set video sync frame interval to 33366
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Using audio as timebase
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Video timing method: RTC
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Refresh rate: 16882, frame interval: 33366
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.172 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.172 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.857 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:14.992 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.063 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.199 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.270 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.406 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.477 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.612 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.683 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.819 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.819 waiting for prebuffer...
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.953 prebuffer wait timed out..
> 2005-11-22 21:47:15.954 waiting for prebuffer...
> 

Re: [mythtv-users] itunes -> mythmusic syncing

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 07:45, Phill Edwards wrote:
> > SVN?? Is that building mythtv from source? Cause I took the easy
> > option out and installed using yum in Fedora.
>
> Yes. SVN is the new CVS.

quite a few DAAP changes in the last day's SVN updates as well.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] screen stretching problems with running X on the PVR350

[korebantic]

I guessed as much on the keyboard shortcuts, and
managed to muddle through the setup with the buttons
cut-off. 

--- harywilke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alt-n will work for next
> Alt-b for back
> Alt-f for finished
> Alt-c for Cancel
> 
> that's what i use when i cant see the buttons.
> 
> -hary
> 
> On Nov 23, 2005, at 4:24 PM, korebantic wrote:
> 
> > Got it, thanks for the help!
> >
> > --- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> korebantic wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  korebantic wrote:
> 
> > My screen in both the horizontal and vertical
> >> directions are stretched to far. When I log on as
> >> the mythtv user and run mythtv-setup, I can't
> really
> >> complete the setup because the next and previous
> >> buttons are off the screen, etc.
> >
>  Set GUI Size (in Myth's frontend settings) to
> >> something smaller than your X screen size and set
> >> your X and Y offsets to about half the
> difference.
> >> Use something like 704x464 as a
>  starting point.
> 
> >>> I'm new to mythTV, so could you spell it out a
> >> little
> >>> more for me =)
> >>>
> >>> Where do I configure this setting exactly? Will
> it
> >> be
> >>> necessary for me to have completed mythtv-setup
> >> first?
> >>> If so I'm in a bit of a catch-22 because I'm
> >> finding
> >>> it hard to navigate through setup with this
> >> problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>  From the frontend GUI, go to
> >> Utilities/Setup|Setup|Appearance
> >>
> >> GUI width (px)
> >> The width of the GUI.  Do not make the GUI wider
> >> than your actual screen
> >> resolution.  Set to 0 to automatically scale to
> >> fullscreen.
> >>
> >> GUI height (px)
> >> The height of the GUI.  Do not make the GUI
> taller
> >> than your actual
> >> screen resolution.  Set to 0 to automatically
> scale
> >> to fullscreen.
> >>
> >> GUI X offset
> >> The horizontal offset the GUI will be displayed
> at.
> >> May only work if
> >> run in a window.
> >>
> >> GUI Y offset
> >> The vertical offset the GUI will be displayed at.
> >>
> >>
> >> Technically, you should run the mythtv-setup
> before
> >> running mythfrontend
> >> (and, therefore, before mythfrontend's setup).
> >> However, you can
> >> probably start mythbackend, start mythfrontend,
> go
> >> to this menu to set
> >> the GUI settings (noting that by default the
> focus
> >> is on the Next
> >> button, so you can just press Return to "skip" a
> >> page).  Then, quit
> >> mythfrontend, then shutdown mythbackend, then run
> >> mythtv-setup.
> >>
> >> However, a better approach is to redisplay the
> >> backend config on a
> >> monitor that's not constrained by the PVR-350's
> >> overscan.  I.e.
> >> (assuming a machine called mythbox and a user
> called
> >> mythtv)
> >>
> >> ssh -Y -l mythtv mythbox
> >> mythtv-setup
> >>
> >> Make sure you use -Y and not -X (because you need
> a
> >> trusted X session).
> >>
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[mythtv-users] Problem using WinTv 350 for record, view on lcd screen using nvidia fx5200 Fedora Core 4

[Andreas]

Hello.

I just got my WinTv 350 card and have been trying to set it up using the
FC4 guide. I have the tuner part working and I can record programs. But
if I try to watch tv live or see a recording the lcd screen goes black,
I also hear sound for about 5-10sec and then nothing.

When this happens I have to reboot the machine to get out of that state.


To clarify I do NOT want to use the TV Out of my 350 card I only want to
use it as a recorder/tuner with the hardware mpeg2 encoder.


If I try mplayer -ao oss -vo xv /dev/video0 I get picture and sound on
my lcd screen. But I cant get mythtv to show tv on my lcd screen.


I can also see the little previews for the recordings on my lcd so I
know there is stuff recorded. 

My setup i short:
AMD 2500+
Abit motherboard with nivida2 chip
Geforce FX5200 128mb (This is my intended output) opengl driver 7667
WinTv 350 (this is my input and tuner)

Any ideas?

/Andy


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Re: [mythtv-users] Stop / Start Athcool just Befor / After a Recording

[Raphael Pooser]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:33:22 -0500
   From: Erik Karlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   you could just hijack the channel change "script" functionality and
   create a user job when the recording completes. The problem of
   back-to-back recordings is still possible. maybe some clever file
   locking scheme between a channel change (start) and user job (end) could
   do the trick.

[There's nothing out there that looks at CPU utilization and leaves
low-power mode if the CPU suddenly looks busy?  Or is the problem
latency?  Laptops do this kind of CPU cycling all the time...  Or
is it that the CPU never looks busy, but recordings are messed up
even so, if done in powersave mode?]

Here's a totally gross idea, but it might work, and could be done with
a tiny shell script.  Assume we start from the powersave state.  The
script loops, once per second, checking the mod-date of the recordings
directory itself.  If it changes, immediately go to non-powersave state.

Once in that state, check every so often (once a minute?) to see if
any file in the recordings dir has been modified.  (You can't just
check the mod-date of the dir itself, as in the previous paragraph,
because once the file has been created, the mod-date of the dir itself
won't change.)  If nothing's been modified in the last minute, assume
we're done for the moment and go back into powersaving.  This check is
probably cheap (since the dir info is presumably cached in RAM), but
it still may not be as cheap as checking just the dir-mod date itself,
which is why I mention using the dir-mod check in the fast loop (1 Hz)
and the slightly-slower check in the slow loop (1/60 Hz).

You could script this pretty trivially just using things like "find"
and asking it to find files newer than a reference file (which you
touch upon entering each of the two states and which had better not
be in the recordings dir itself... :)

This also assumes you can afford to be in powersave mode for the first
second of any given recording.  [If you can't, you could always just
enter fast mode for hh:mm:59..hh:mm+1:01 (two seconds) every minute---
since recordings presumably always start on a minute boundary---and
then run the fall-back-to-powersave check during that.  Might cause
your fan to whoosh in one-minute cycles, though...]  This scheme does,
at least, provide some hysteresis, so you won't leave the fast-CPU
state until you're really sure you're done recording.  And if anything
else is modifying stuff there (like transcoding maybe?), you'll stay
in fast-mode until it's done.

It would definitely be better if there were hooks for MythTV actions,
though, since using an event-driven style to control this would be
much more reliable and less of a kluge than the polling method above.
 




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The way I see it, it would make sense to monitor the output of 
mythbackend.  Mythbackend outputs to stdout and you can redirect that to 
your script.  Whenever myth sends a line like "switching from none to 
watching prerecorded", you set the condition in an IF and execute 
"athcool off" or sudo athcool off or whatever.  Just set up a while loop 
in the script that checks the output of myth.  once your leave the 
recording it's going to say something like "switching from watching 
prerecorded to none".  you can test for that and set athcool on.

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Re: [mythtv-users] KnoppMyth R5A26

[Michael T. Dean]

Lee wrote:


My humble apologies for including a SVN version in R5A22.  It was a
mistake.  This has been rectified alnog with a few other small fixes.

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6944
http://www.mysettopbox.tv/CHANGELOG.txt


Been wondering if I should post this or not, so I'm posting with the 
hope that perhaps it's possible to "head off some problems at the 
pass."  Should someone mention the

   a) danger,
   b) issues, or
   c) proper approach (including downgrading the DB Schema)
of "upgrading" from R5A22 to R5A26?  (Option c being the ideal.)  
Going from anything before R5A22 to R5A26 isn't a problem, but those 
users who upgraded to R5A22 have a database version (somewhere at or 
after 1095) greater than that expected by R5A26 (probably 1083) and 
are likely to have problems with an upgrade to R5A26. 


OK... for the sake of argument, lets say I wiped my R5A22 install and 
installed R5A26 from scratch... but then restored the mythconverg 
database from A22 into my A26 install... Am I screwed?


The restore probably won't work right.  You'll have to edit the restore 
script to deal with things like basename and progstart and progend 
columns in the recorded table (although it's possible MySQL will "do its 
best with what it's got").  Probably many other similar issues.


Then, once you get it working, you'll need to rename any recordings that 
use the new filename format (i.e. chanid_starttime.{nuv,mpg}) to the old 
filename format (i.e. chanid_starttime_endtime.nuv).


And then you'd have to take care of any other issues that I haven't 
anticipated...


So, in all, it's probably more work than it's worth.

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] native resolution vs 1080i for HDTV and SD on 1280x768 lcd?

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 01:02, Dan Christian wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 November 2005 07:59 pm, you wrote:
> > if its truely using an HDTV output chip then the modeline won't matter,
> > just the TVOut settings for the nvidia driver.
>
> That's what I thought, but it acted just the same.  Maybe my card doesn't
> really do the right thing.

sounds strange though, If I'm to understand what the HDTV component output is 
doing on these boards correctly. I'm at a loss at this point as well.

>
> > Have you fed a 1080i signal to your TV with another device?
>
> No, I don't.  That would be very usefull, but all the possible options are
> $300+.  I don't feel like throwing more money at the problem right now.
>
> -Dan

true, I just thought maybe your TV doesn't like 1080i inputs, this would close 
that path of possibilities.
What TV model is it?

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] KnoppMyth R5A26

[Lee]

My humble apologies for including a SVN version in R5A22.  It was a
mistake.  This has been rectified alnog with a few other small fixes.

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6944
http://www.mysettopbox.tv/CHANGELOG.txt


Been wondering if I should post this or not, so I'm posting with the 
hope that perhaps it's possible to "head off some problems at the 
pass."  Should someone mention the

   a) danger,
   b) issues, or
   c) proper approach (including downgrading the DB Schema)
of "upgrading" from R5A22 to R5A26?  (Option c being the ideal.)  
Going from anything before R5A22 to R5A26 isn't a problem, but those 
users who upgraded to R5A22 have a database version (somewhere at or 
after 1095) greater than that expected by R5A26 (probably 1083) and 
are likely to have problems with an upgrade to R5A26. 


OK... for the sake of argument, lets say I wiped my R5A22 install and 
installed R5A26 from scratch... but then restored the mythconverg 
database from A22 into my A26 install... Am I screwed?



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[mythtv-users] Stop / Start Athcool just Befor / After a Recording

[f-myth-users]

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:33:22 -0500
From: Erik Karlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

you could just hijack the channel change "script" functionality and
create a user job when the recording completes. The problem of
back-to-back recordings is still possible. maybe some clever file
locking scheme between a channel change (start) and user job (end) could
do the trick.

[There's nothing out there that looks at CPU utilization and leaves
low-power mode if the CPU suddenly looks busy?  Or is the problem
latency?  Laptops do this kind of CPU cycling all the time...  Or
is it that the CPU never looks busy, but recordings are messed up
even so, if done in powersave mode?]

Here's a totally gross idea, but it might work, and could be done with
a tiny shell script.  Assume we start from the powersave state.  The
script loops, once per second, checking the mod-date of the recordings
directory itself.  If it changes, immediately go to non-powersave state.

Once in that state, check every so often (once a minute?) to see if
any file in the recordings dir has been modified.  (You can't just
check the mod-date of the dir itself, as in the previous paragraph,
because once the file has been created, the mod-date of the dir itself
won't change.)  If nothing's been modified in the last minute, assume
we're done for the moment and go back into powersaving.  This check is
probably cheap (since the dir info is presumably cached in RAM), but
it still may not be as cheap as checking just the dir-mod date itself,
which is why I mention using the dir-mod check in the fast loop (1 Hz)
and the slightly-slower check in the slow loop (1/60 Hz).

You could script this pretty trivially just using things like "find"
and asking it to find files newer than a reference file (which you
touch upon entering each of the two states and which had better not
be in the recordings dir itself... :)

This also assumes you can afford to be in powersave mode for the first
second of any given recording.  [If you can't, you could always just
enter fast mode for hh:mm:59..hh:mm+1:01 (two seconds) every minute---
since recordings presumably always start on a minute boundary---and
then run the fall-back-to-powersave check during that.  Might cause
your fan to whoosh in one-minute cycles, though...]  This scheme does,
at least, provide some hysteresis, so you won't leave the fast-CPU
state until you're really sure you're done recording.  And if anything
else is modifying stuff there (like transcoding maybe?), you'll stay
in fast-mode until it's done.

It would definitely be better if there were hooks for MythTV actions,
though, since using an event-driven style to control this would be
much more reliable and less of a kluge than the polling method above.
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Sasha Z]

No

On 11/23/05, Fredrik Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, what is added in SVN now? I am runnig the 0.18.1 release and would
> like to know if an upgrade is something that I need to do.. I miss the
> ability to keep sound playing when exiting the mythmusic module for
> instance.. is that in yet?
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[mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?

[Petr Stehlik]

Hi,

I just got the 0.18.1 working (from .deb) on a fresh debian sid install
(after giving up on KnoppMyth R22) and I am wondering whether it is
possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to
coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working?

Note that puting SVN to /usr/local (while the stable lays in /usr) and
renaming the database (I don't mind keeping two databases) might not be
enough so I decided to ask if someone runs such setup successfully.

Thanks.

Petr


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Fredrik Karlsson]

So, what is added in SVN now? I am runnig the 0.18.1 release and would
like to know if an upgrade is something that I need to do.. I miss the
ability to keep sound playing when exiting the mythmusic module for
instance.. is that in yet?

/Fredrik

On 11/23/05, Asher Schaffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/23/05, Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fredrik Karlsson wrote:
> > > Wouldn't the safe bet be the last stable release?
> > >
> > > However, on another note, how many people are using the SVN version now?
> > > Is it usable..? Compared to the 0.18.1 release, is it stable?
> >
> > If you consider LiveTV an important feature then it is not usable, since
> > LiveTV is currently broken in SVN.
> >
> > Jules
>
> LiveTV works fine for me in the current SVN, there might be a few
> quirks being worked out, but it is no longer disabled.
>
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[mythtv-users] bttv audio / snd_bt87x guide?

[Alan]

Ok, I've investigated my setup some more and figure that my issues with
my knoppmyth setup not giving me sound for video recorded with a second
wintv-go (bttv based) card.   I think this is due to sound drivers not
working except for going out directly from the card (out of sync as the
sound is "raw").  

Anyway, there are a lot of pages out there talking about btaudio, snd_bt87x, 
bttv audio, etc.  It seems that btaudio is depricated (and the tarball
available won't build) and replaced by the snd_bt87x module.  I have
found the card and tuner values from dmesg, just wondering where in my
knoppmyth setup to put these options. 

Does anyone have their /etc/knoppmyth/modules/bttv they can share, or is
there a definitive bt87x audio guide somewhere?  My system is pvr350 as
the main card, a wintv-go as the secondary, with sound working fine
except for when the 350 is recording and I'm playing live tv from the
wintv-go. 

I *think* that I just need to add a "options tuner type=xxx" (or something 
like that) to that file.  However, if the card is recognized automatically 
(dmesg has a card=xx and tuner=xx in it) wouldn't that mean the system 
already knows about it?

TIA

Alan

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Re: [mythtv-users] - Very Newbie - Edit registration with remote

[Michael Jones]

Just make sure that you have the following keys mapped somewhere on the
remote: (at least these are the ones I use the most)

E - Edit
Z - Load Commercial Skips as a starting cutlist
Page Up - Previous Cut Point
Page Down - Next Cut Point

The right/left keys move incrementaly through the edit timeline
The up/down keys change the increment used by the left/right keys.

This makes it Very easy.



> From: Alessandro Boggiano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv 
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:37:05 +0100
> To: 
> Subject: [mythtv-users] - Very Newbie - Edit registration with remote
> 
> Hi all, sorry if the question is quite silly,but I was wondering if it's
> possible to edit a recorded film only using the remote.
> I'm using the WinMCE remote with default actions: usually I start
> recording 15 minutes before and 15 minutes after the timetable (in Italy
> scheduling is very bad), so I'm able to cut before ad after without any
> problem.
> Is it possible to cut frames inside only using the remote?
> 
> Thanks
> Alessandro
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Re: [mythtv-users] Two Nova-T cards?

[Julian Edwards]

On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 15:31 +, Jules Gosnell wrote:
> So, I have been googling and ebaying for such a thing - looks like I 
> just want a 'booster' (UK English?) with multiple outputs... but there 
> is a bewildering variety on offer. Can anyone give me some idea of what 
> would constitute a good solution and what I should stear clear of, or 
> are they all much the same ?

I got mine from Homebase. I suspect B&Q will do them too.  I just picked
the cheapest with 6 outputs and it worked perfectly fine.

Of course, that does mean you need to venture away from the screen and
go outside :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:23:07 -0800
Scott Alfter wrote:

> > Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works with 
> > current stable Linux versions. 
> 
> I must be imagining that my MythTV box is running just fine with v0.18.1 (the
> last stable release) on Gentoo (with a reasonably-current kernel), with a
> PVR-350 and PVR-250 for input.  Is your definition of "last stable release"
> different from what the rest of us are using?


ditto (but with PVR150MCE)

Interestingly the author of the article on Mythtv in the latest Linux
Journal considers gentoo to be the easiest distro to get myth running
on.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth from SVN

[Michael T. Dean]

Michael Haan wrote:

I'm running on Gentoo and I don't think the ebuild has been updated 
lately.  I'm considering pulling and building myth from subversion, 
but I'm not sure how to do it.  Can someone tell me how? 


Step 1)  Sign up for and make sure you read the dev and commits lists 
for MythTV (and, if you haven't been doing so lately, read the archives 
for a couple weeks back to see what issues you will have - 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/ and 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/ ).


Step 2) http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Asher Schaffer]

On 11/23/05, Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fredrik Karlsson wrote:
> > Wouldn't the safe bet be the last stable release?
> >
> > However, on another note, how many people are using the SVN version now?
> > Is it usable..? Compared to the 0.18.1 release, is it stable?
>
> If you consider LiveTV an important feature then it is not usable, since
> LiveTV is currently broken in SVN.
>
> Jules

LiveTV works fine for me in the current SVN, there might be a few
quirks being worked out, but it is no longer disabled.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Upgrade Idea

[Michael T. Dean]

Roger McClurg wrote:


I'm showing my ignorance again, but what is MFD?


http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/83726#83726

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Filename confusion - .nuv and .mpg

[Nathan Allen Stratton]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Joseph A. Caputo wrote:

> The  now reflects the container format of the recording.
> Files recorded from a DVB source, or from a hardware MPEG encoding
> card, will be named "*.mpg".  Files recorded using software encoding,
> or transcoded recordings, will be named "*.nuv".
>
> The content of the files has not changed, only the naming conventions.
> Previously, all files were "*.nuv", even if they were really MPEG

So I run myth with 2 Plextor 402Us and a HD3000 card. They both are
hardware MPEG but only the HD3000 are saved as .mpg. Is this because the
402U is MPEG4 and HD3000 is MPEG2?

-Nathan
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Michael T. Dean]

Scott Alfter wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:09:15PM +0100, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:
   


Wouldn't the safe bet be the last stable release?
 

Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works with 
current stable Linux versions. 
   


I must be imagining that my MythTV box is running just fine with v0.18.1 (the
last stable release) on Gentoo (with a reasonably-current kernel), with a
PVR-350 and PVR-250 for input.  Is your definition of "last stable release"
different from what the rest of us are using?
 

I think he was referring to GCC 4.x compile problems--which, BTW, seem 
to have been fixed in 0.18-fixes (and, therefore, KnoppMyth R5A26)--but, 
GCC is Linux, right?  After all, according to the media, I'm running the 
Linux Operating System...  ;)


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] More HD stuttering

[Brandon Beattie]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:20:27AM -0800, Chris Trown wrote:
> 
>  And combing, for that matter.
> 
>  I posted yesterday asking some questions.  I looked into the 
> suggestions, but I don't think they apply.  I didn't supply enough info. 
>So, here we go.  As much detail as I know.  Hopefully, somebody can 
> point me in the right direction.  I'm a bit at a loss as to where to go 
> next.
> 
>  The system is a 3.06 GHz P4 running Fedora Core 3.  The video Card 
> is a NVidia 5200FX.  For capture, all I have is a HD3000.  I've checked 
> that DMA is working on all the drives.  I built mythtv from stable 
> source, 0.18.1.  I used the following configure options:
> 
> --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb 
> --dvb-path=/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1381_FC3smp/build/include 
> --disable-firewire --disable-joystick --disable-ivtv --enable-proc-opt 
> --disable-xvmc-vld --enable-opengl-vsync
> 

What does the backend log say?
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[Michael T. Dean]

harywilke wrote:

If you run the SVN of Myth, use the SVN of any MythPlugins you want  
to use, MythGame or others. Don't mix and match.


The process will be: download the latest source from svn for MythTV  
and Mythplugins


AND myththemes.  There are some recent changes which rely on updated themes.


, compile and install mythtv, then compile and install


myththemes,


  mythgame and whatever other plugins you want.

check http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ for instructions on downloading the  
source code from SVN


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[A JM]

Thanks.On 11/23/05, harywilke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you run the SVN of Myth, use the SVN of any MythPlugins you wantto use, MythGame or others. Don't mix and match.The process will be: download the latest source from svn for MythTVand Mythplugins, compile and install mythtv, then compile and install
mythgame and whatever other plugins you want.check http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ for instructions on downloading thesource code from SVN-haryOn Nov 23, 2005, at 10:27 PM, A JM wrote:
> So just because I'm running SVN of Myth I can still use the> binary's (I think that's the terminology) of the plugins? I'm just> trying to get my arms around the process I need to follow.>
> Thanks, On 11/23/05, Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recall> reading a post not long ago about version issues with MythGame and
> > SVN so I guess it probably was related to xmame and SVN> incompatabilities? I>> No, it's likely a problem where someone wanted to run the SVN version> of MythGame with a 0.18 release which you couldn't do.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Michael T. Dean]

Wendy Seltzer wrote:

On 11/22/05, *Michael T. Dean* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Which you should do with mythrename.pl .  Note, however, that no
matter
what you do, mythrename.pl (in its current implementation) will
*always*
use spaces (even if you specify, i.e., an underscore ("_") for the
space 



In current svn (7999) at least,  mythrename.pl has the --underscores 
option to get filenames without spaces.  Not sure when that went in.


Cool.  Thanks.  It's been there since mythlink.pl days ([7282] 
http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7282 ), but I didn't notice it.  I 
had used a different option name in my patch, and Chris cleaned up the 
names and renamed my "space-char" option (allowing the user to specify a 
character) to "underscores" (and made it always use the underscore, 
which is the only character I can imagine specifying for spaces, 
anyway).  Guess that's one more thing I can take off my list of todo's...


So, now I guess I need to rephrase my above post:  "No matter what I 
did, I couldn't create names without spaces because I wasn't using 
mythrename.pl correctly."  :)


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[mythtv-users] can't tune pvr-150 using mythtv, ivtv-tune works

[Ronald Wielink]

Hi there!
I've been trying to get MythTV to work for the past few days but
somehow I don't get it to tune to channels. I'm using a single machine
with a PVR-150 non-MCE.

I'm fairly new to linux, guess that doesn't help much...

What I've done so far is:
Installed MyhthTV using Jarods FC4 guide. I've stayed as close to the
instructions as possible. I have filled the database using
myhtfilldatabase --manual using tv_grab_nl_pdb with the information of
two channels.

When I choose WatchTV I get a non-tuned image. I can faintly see a TV image so I know 
'something' is happening... Selecting channel 1 or 2 results in the image freezing for a second or two but that's it. 
I tried 
# /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl &
# mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0

but apparently ptune-ui.pl is not included in the package I installed (?!). Now when I use 


ivtv-tune -f715.75
I get
/dev/video0: 715.750 MHz  (Signal Detected)
and the channel actually changes in the front end! 

When I try channel up or channel down, I get:
Hi there!
I've been trying to get MythTV to work for the past few days but
somehow I don't get it to tune to channels. I'm using a single machine
with a PVR-150 non-MCE.

I'm fairly new to linux, guess that doesn't help...

What I've done so far is:
Installed MyhthTV using Jarods FC4 guide. I've stayed as close to the
instructions as possible. I have filled the database using
myhtfilldatabase --manual using tv_grab_nl_pdb with the information of
two channels.

When I choose WatchTV I get a non-tuned image. I can faintly see a TV image so I know 
'something' is happening... Selecting channel 1 or 2 results in the image freezing for a second or two but that's it. 
I tried 
# /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl &
# mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0

but apparently ptune-ui.pl is not included in the package I installed (?!). Now when I use 
ivtv-tune -f715.75
I get
/dev/video0: 715.750 MHz  (Signal Detected)
and the channel actually changes in the front end! 

Using Channelup and Channeldown I get:

2005-11-23 22:27:33.187 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "E2" in the "setup" Channel Editor.
2005-11-23 22:27:33.187 Error, couldn't find any available channels.
2005-11-23 22:27:33.188 Your database is most likely setup incorrectly.

I get the first line for every channel between 1 and 69 (and E en S channels).

I suspect I've made an obvious mistake, but I can't find it. Can someone please help me out?

Thanks a lot, Ronald
=
Here's some more information: 
Starting up the backend:

2005-11-23 22:05:42.317 New DB connection, total: 1
Starting up as the master server.
2005-11-23 22:05:42.342 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-11-23 22:05:42.359 New DB connection, total: 3
2005-11-23 22:05:42.403 New DB scheduler connection
2005-11-23 22:05:42.413 mythbackend version: 0.18.1.20050523-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-11-23 22:05:42.414 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
2005-11-23 22:05:44.414 Reschedule requested for id -1.
2005-11-23 22:05:44.428 Scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.01 match + 0.01 place
2005-11-23 22:05:44.432 Seem to be woken up by USER



Starting up the frontend:

2005-11-23 22:07:07.662 New DB connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1024, height=768, numscreens=1
2005-11-23 22:07:07.678 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2005-11-23 22:07:07.685 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050523-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-11-23 22:07:07.686 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
2005-11-23 22:07:08.171 Switching to square mode (visor)
mythtv: could not connect to socket
mythtv: Connection refused
lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
2005-11-23 22:07:08.567 Joystick disabled.
2005-11-23 22:07:08.658 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
2005-11-23 22:07:08.687 Registering MythDVD DVD Media Handler as a media handler
2005-11-23 22:07:08.689 Registering MythDVD VCD Media Handler as a media handler
2005-11-23 22:07:08.986 Registering MythMusic Media Handler as a media handler
SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.1.65:5060 NAT address 192.168.1.65
SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set
2005-11-23 22:07:09.578 Starting media monitor.


mysql> use mythconverg;
mysql> select chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name from channel;
++-++--+--+-+
| chanid | channum | freqid | sourceid | callsign | name    |
++-++--+--+-+
|   1000 | 1   |
5 
|    1 |
Ned1 | Nederland 1 |
|   1001 | 2   |
7 
|    1 |
Ned2 | Nederland 2 |
++-++--+--+-+

Nov 23 20:35:36 mithrandir kernel: ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
Nov 23 20:35:36 mithrandir kernel: ivtv:  version 0.4.0 (tagged release) loading
Nov 23 20:35:36 mithrandir kernel: ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.0
Nov 23 20:35:36 mithrandir kernel: ivtv:  In case of problem

RE: [mythtv-users] Fusion 5 Tuning problems

[David Ellis]

No - I have the same setup.

As long as the serviceid in the channels table is different for those
channels it will pickup the right channel.

If you run mythbackend with -v all it shows you the available service id's
when it tunes to a station.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Manning
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:22 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Fusion 5 Tuning problems

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:16, David Ellis wrote:
> First off go into "Advanced Options" on your capture card in MythTV 
> Setup, make sure your using TS Mode (not PS).
>
> Then, follow these steps:
>
> 1)   Grab the frequency from you channels.conf (it will look like
> 52500).
>
> 2)   Add a new row to your dtv_multiplex table with the correct
> frequency, make sure the modulation is set to qam_256
>
> 3)   Set the dtv_multiplex field of your channel in the channel_id to
> the id generated for you in 2. If you know the service id set it in 
> serviceid field of your channels table.
>
> 4)   Set the initial channel to tune in card input to a valid channel
> number - restart mythbackend.
>
> If you don't know the Service ID, run mythbackend with "-v all" and 
> one of the debug messages includes all the service id's myth see's on 
> the channel.
>
> David

Right now I have 2-3 (sub)channels in the channels table pointing to one row
(frequency) in the dtv_multiplex table, since they share the same frequency.
Could this be the problem?

Gary

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[mythtv-users] Myth from SVN

[Michael Haan]

I'm running on Gentoo and I don't think the ebuild has been updated lately.  I'm considering pulling and building myth from subversion, but I'm not sure how to do it.  Can someone tell me how?
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Re: [mythtv-users] screen stretching problems with running X on the PVR350

[harywilke]

Alt-n will work for next
Alt-b for back
Alt-f for finished
Alt-c for Cancel

that's what i use when i cant see the buttons.

-hary

On Nov 23, 2005, at 4:24 PM, korebantic wrote:


Got it, thanks for the help!

--- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


korebantic wrote:


--- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:



korebantic wrote:


My screen in both the horizontal and vertical

directions are stretched to far. When I log on as
the mythtv user and run mythtv-setup, I can't really
complete the setup because the next and previous
buttons are off the screen, etc.



Set GUI Size (in Myth's frontend settings) to

something smaller than your X screen size and set
your X and Y offsets to about half the difference.
Use something like 704x464 as a

starting point.


I'm new to mythTV, so could you spell it out a

little

more for me =)

Where do I configure this setting exactly? Will it

be

necessary for me to have completed mythtv-setup

first?

If so I'm in a bit of a catch-22 because I'm

finding

it hard to navigate through setup with this

problem.




 From the frontend GUI, go to
Utilities/Setup|Setup|Appearance

GUI width (px)
The width of the GUI.  Do not make the GUI wider
than your actual screen
resolution.  Set to 0 to automatically scale to
fullscreen.

GUI height (px)
The height of the GUI.  Do not make the GUI taller
than your actual
screen resolution.  Set to 0 to automatically scale
to fullscreen.

GUI X offset
The horizontal offset the GUI will be displayed at.
May only work if
run in a window.

GUI Y offset
The vertical offset the GUI will be displayed at.


Technically, you should run the mythtv-setup before
running mythfrontend
(and, therefore, before mythfrontend's setup).
However, you can
probably start mythbackend, start mythfrontend, go
to this menu to set
the GUI settings (noting that by default the focus
is on the Next
button, so you can just press Return to "skip" a
page).  Then, quit
mythfrontend, then shutdown mythbackend, then run
mythtv-setup.

However, a better approach is to redisplay the
backend config on a
monitor that's not constrained by the PVR-350's
overscan.  I.e.
(assuming a machine called mythbox and a user called
mythtv)

ssh -Y -l mythtv mythbox
mythtv-setup

Make sure you use -Y and not -X (because you need a
trusted X session).

Mike
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RE: [mythtv-users] Fusion 5 Tuning problems

[Gary Manning]

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 09:16, David Ellis wrote:
> First off go into "Advanced Options" on your capture card in MythTV 
> Setup, make sure your using TS Mode (not PS).
>
> Then, follow these steps:
>
> 1)   Grab the frequency from you channels.conf (it will look like
> 52500).
>
> 2)   Add a new row to your dtv_multiplex table with the correct
> frequency, make sure the modulation is set to qam_256
>
> 3)   Set the dtv_multiplex field of your channel in the channel_id to
> the id generated for you in 2. If you know the service id set it in 
> serviceid field of your channels table.
>
> 4)   Set the initial channel to tune in card input to a valid channel
> number - restart mythbackend.
>
> If you don't know the Service ID, run mythbackend with "-v all" and 
> one of the debug messages includes all the service id's myth see's on 
> the channel.
>
> David

Right now I have 2-3 (sub)channels in the channels table pointing to one row
(frequency) in the dtv_multiplex table, since they share the same frequency.
Could this be the problem?

Gary
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[mythtv-users] apt-get install mythtv-suite has problem with myth-plugins

[Adam Prentice]

I was able to use apt-get install mythtv-suite a couple weeks agobut now
when I try it on both a fresh FC3 or FC4 install I get an error saying:

The following packages have unmet dependencies: mythtv-suite: Depends
mythplugins (>= 0.18.1) but it is not going to be installed.

Anyone have a fix for this?

Adam


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[harywilke]

If you run the SVN of Myth, use the SVN of any MythPlugins you want  
to use, MythGame or others. Don't mix and match.


The process will be: download the latest source from svn for MythTV  
and Mythplugins, compile and install mythtv, then compile and install  
mythgame and whatever other plugins you want.


check http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ for instructions on downloading the  
source code from SVN


-hary

On Nov 23, 2005, at 10:27 PM, A JM wrote:

So just because I'm running SVN of Myth I can still use the  
binary's (I think that's the terminology) of the plugins? I'm just  
trying to get my arms around the process I need to follow.


Thanks,



On 11/23/05, Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recall  
reading a post not long ago about version issues with MythGame and
> SVN so I guess it probably was related to xmame and SVN  
incompatabilities? I


No, it's likely a problem where someone wanted to run the SVN version
of MythGame with a 0.18 release which you couldn't do.



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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Upgrade Idea

[Roger McClurg]

On 11/22/05, *Roger McClurg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

My son observed how nice it would be if MythVideo and
MythAudio were
combined, so you could listen to music while you looked at your
photographs. It sounded like a good idea to me. Does anyone
else think so?

I think MFD is supposed to do this (it doesn't yet).

oops, you meant MythGallery... nevermind


  


On 11/22/05, *Devan Lippman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


No.  You were right.  This is what mfd brings to Myth.  And allowing 
you to play media while browsing menus or "doing anything with the 
system" (as requested in another post in the thread).


Mike



I'm showing my ignorance again, but what is MFD?

Roger

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[mythtv-users] Re: mythtv-users Digest, Vol 33, Issue 289

[Roger McClurg]

Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:42:06 -0500
From: "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Upgrade Idea
To: Discussion about mythtv 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Devan Lippman wrote:

 

On 11/22/05, *Devan Lippman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On 11/22/05, *Roger McClurg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

My son observed how nice it would be if MythVideo and
MythAudio were
combined, so you could listen to music while you looked at your
photographs. It sounded like a good idea to me. Does anyone
else think so?

I think MFD is supposed to do this (it doesn't yet).

oops, you meant MythGallery... nevermind
   



No.  You were right.  This is what mfd brings to Myth.  And allowing you 
to play media while browsing menus or "doing anything with the system" 
(as requested in another post in the thread).


Mike



I'm showing my ignorance again, but what is MFD?

Roger
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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Wendy Seltzer]

On 11/22/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which you should do with mythrename.pl .  Note, however, that no matterwhat you do, mythrename.pl (in its current implementation) will *always*use spaces (even if you specify, i.e., an underscore ("_") for the space

In current svn (7999) at least,  mythrename.pl has the
--underscores option to get filenames without spaces.  Not sure
when that went in.

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Re: [mythtv-users] The ever-popular DVD burning topic

[Phill Edwards]

> I've looked into MythTVBurn, and a few other projects... and they all
> seem to have dependency trees 5 levels deep with 47 items in them
> without sufficient information to keep me from having to get married to
> all 47 code bases even to just get things installed.
>
> Is there a simple, easy to install solution for this issue yet?
>
> Could someone point me to it?
>
> My target platform is SuSE 9.3, which for all other purposes, seems to
> work fine as a base for both Myth and $ALL_OUR_OTHER_CRAP.

I'm guessing you want a Linux solution, but here's a Windows one just
in case. I've only started playing with this this week but it appears
that a pretty easy solution would be to:

1) Copy recording to Windows machine
2) Use ProjectX on Windows to edit recording and transcode to .mp2 & .mpv.
3) Use a DVD author such as DVD Styler & import these 2 asset file to
make your DVD.

However, I think this all relies on the fact that I'm recording wit
DVB-T cards so I've already got MPEG2 to start with. In your case
you'd have to transcode the files out of MPEG4. You could do that with
nuvexport as step 0). Or you could use something like TMPGEnc or
IMTooMPEG (neither are free and not sure how much they like the MythTV
transcoded format). I think I've played with one of them and it does
work from memory.

HTH,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[A JM]

So just because I'm running SVN of Myth I can still use the binary's (I
think that's the terminology) of the plugins? I'm just trying to get my
arms around the process I need to follow.

Thanks,

On 11/23/05, Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recall reading a post not long ago about version issues with MythGame and> SVN so I guess it probably was related to xmame and SVN incompatabilities? I No, it's likely a problem where someone wanted to run the SVN version
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Scott Alfter]

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> 
> Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works with 
> current stable Linux versions. 

I must be imagining that my MythTV box is running just fine with v0.18.1 (the
last stable release) on Gentoo (with a reasonably-current kernel), with a
PVR-350 and PVR-250 for input.  Is your definition of "last stable release"
different from what the rest of us are using?

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[Greg Estabrooks]

> I recall reading a post not long ago about version issues with MythGame and
> SVN so I guess it probably was related to xmame and SVN incompatabilities? I

 No, it's likely a problem where someone wanted to run the SVN version
of MythGame with a 0.18 release which you couldn't do.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

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I recall reading a post not long ago about version issues with MythGame
and SVN so I guess it probably was related to xmame and SVN
incompatabilities? I just wanted to check the list for any
compatability issues.

Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] More HD stuttering

[Chris Trown]

Todd Ignasiak wrote:
I have been playing around with this a bit lately.   I'm running in 
x86-64 mode, but the behavior may be similar.   Also, I'm using the SVN 
from last night, 7996.


- With OpenGL Sync 'ON', I get stuttering whenever XvMC is enabled.  The 
Standard decoder works fine with OpenGL Sync, but not XvMC.


- With OpenGL Sync 'OFF', and XvMC 'ON';  1080i playback works great.  
No stuttering at all.


- With OpenGL Sync 'OFF' and XvMC 'ON'; 720p playback is great, until 
the OSD comes up.  Then, my audio/video stutters until a second or two 
after the OSD goes away.




 I can't remember what I have set for OpenGL at the moment.  I'll 
check it out when I get home.


 I guess another question I have, is how can I tell if myth is 
trying, successfully or not, to use XvMC?  I see "Using XV port 240" but 
that's it.  No mention of XvMC anywhere.  Other than compiling support 
for it in MythTV, is that all that needs to be done?


 Thanks!

Chris...



On 11/23/05, *Chris Trown* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



  And combing, for that matter.

  I posted yesterday asking some questions.  I looked into the
suggestions, but I don't think they apply.  I didn't supply enough info.
So, here we go.  As much detail as I know.  Hopefully, somebody can
point me in the right direction.  I'm a bit at a loss as to where to go
next.

  The system is a 3.06 GHz P4 running Fedora Core 3.  The video Card
is a NVidia 5200FX.  For capture, all I have is a HD3000.  I've checked
that DMA is working on all the drives.  I built mythtv from stable
source, 0.18.1.  I used the following configure options:

--enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb
--dvb-path=/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1381_FC3smp/build/include
--disable-firewire --disable-joystick --disable-ivtv --enable-proc-opt
--disable-xvmc-vld --enable-opengl-vsync

  I'm getting stuttering and combing when playing HD.  The CPU is
maxing out at 99% when playing.  The clips I am testing with are
1080i(CSI).  I've tried using XvMC with BOB Deinterlacing filter.  I've
also tried using libmpeg2 with the kernel and linear blend filter.
Nothing seems to help and the CPU always goes through the roof.

  Here is the output from "mythfrontend -v playback".  I have "Use
XvMC for playback" checked and bobdeint filter selected.

2005-11-22 21:46:49.885 New DB connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1280, height=720, numscreens=1
2005-11-22 21:46:49.891 Using screen 0, 1280x720 at 0,0
2005-11-22 21:46:49.895 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1
www.mythtv.org 
2005-11-22 21:46:49.896 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
playback
2005-11-22 21:46:50.016 max_width: 1280 max_height: 720
2005-11-22 21:46:50.066 Switching to square mode (blue)
2005-11-22 21:46:50.630 Joystick disabled.
2005-11-22 21:46:50.688 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
2005-11-22 21:46: 50.976 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543
(try 1 of 5)
2005-11-22 21:46:50.986 Using protocol version 15
2005-11-22 21:46:50.997 Starting media monitor.
2005-11-22 21:47:10.304 All Programs
2005-11-22 21:47: 12.199 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan,
29.97,
1088) ->Interlaced Scan
2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088
  fps: 29.97
2005-11-22 21:47:12.200 Estimated bitrate = 0
2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:
0, disphoff: 0
2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920,
imgh: 1080
2005-11-22 21:47:12.435 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47: 13.155 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97,
1088) ->Interlaced Scan
2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088
  fps: 29.97
2005-11-22 21:47:13.288 Estimated bitrate = 0
2005-11-22 21:47:13.296 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-11-22 21:47:13.297 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-11-22 21:47:13.307 Over/underscan. V: 0, H: 0, XOff: 0, YOff: 0
2005-11-22 21:47:13.316 Using XV port 240
2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:
1280, disphoff: 720
2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920,
imgh: 1080
2005-11-22 21:47:13.931 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
2005-11-22 21:47:13.933 Using deinterlace method bobdeint
2005-11-22 21:47:13.934 Using realtime priority.
2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work,
unimplement

Re: [mythtv-users] More HD stuttering

[Todd Ignasiak]

I have been playing around with this a bit lately.   I'm running in x86-64 mode, but the behavior may be similar.   Also, I'm using the SVN from last night, 7996.- With OpenGL Sync 'ON', I get stuttering whenever XvMC is enabled.  The Standard decoder works fine with OpenGL Sync, but not XvMC.
- With OpenGL Sync 'OFF', and XvMC 'ON';  1080i playback works great.  No stuttering at all.- With OpenGL Sync 'OFF' and XvMC 'ON'; 720p playback is great, until the OSD comes up.  Then, my audio/video stutters until a second or two after the OSD goes away.
On 11/23/05, Chris Trown <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  And combing, for that matter.  I posted yesterday asking some questions.  I looked into the
suggestions, but I don't think they apply.  I didn't supply enough info.So, here we go.  As much detail as I know.  Hopefully, somebody canpoint me in the right direction.  I'm a bit at a loss as to where to go
next.  The system is a 3.06 GHz P4 running Fedora Core 3.  The video Cardis a NVidia 5200FX.  For capture, all I have is a HD3000.  I've checkedthat DMA is working on all the drives.  I built mythtv from stable
source, 0.18.1.  I used the following configure options:--enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb--dvb-path=/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1381_FC3smp/build/include--disable-firewire --disable-joystick --disable-ivtv --enable-proc-opt
--disable-xvmc-vld --enable-opengl-vsync  I'm getting stuttering and combing when playing HD.  The CPU ismaxing out at 99% when playing.  The clips I am testing with are1080i(CSI).  I've tried using XvMC with BOB Deinterlacing filter.  I've
also tried using libmpeg2 with the kernel and linear blend filter.Nothing seems to help and the CPU always goes through the roof.  Here is the output from "mythfrontend -v playback".  I have "Use
XvMC for playback" checked and bobdeint filter selected.2005-11-22 21:46:49.885 New DB connection, total: 1Total desktop width=1280, height=720, numscreens=12005-11-22 21:46:49.891 Using screen 0, 1280x720 at 0,0
2005-11-22 21:46:49.895 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1www.mythtv.org2005-11-22 21:46:49.896 Enabled verbose msgs : important general playback
2005-11-22 21:46:50.016
 max_width: 1280 max_height: 7202005-11-22 21:46:50.066 Switching to square mode (blue)2005-11-22 21:46:50.630 Joystick disabled.2005-11-22 21:46:50.688 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.2005-11-22 21:46:
50.976 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543(try 1 of 5)2005-11-22 21:46:50.986 Using protocol version 152005-11-22 21:46:50.997 Starting media monitor.2005-11-22 21:47:10.304 All Programs2005-11-22 21:47:
12.199 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97,1088) ->Interlaced Scan2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088  fps: 29.972005-11-22 21:47:12.200 Estimated bitrate = 0
2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:0, disphoff: 02005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 10802005-11-22 21:47:12.435 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:
13.155 New DB connection, total: 22005-11-22 21:47:13.217 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97,1088) ->Interlaced Scan2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088  fps: 
29.972005-11-22 21:47:13.288 Estimated bitrate = 02005-11-22 21:47:13.296 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.2005-11-22 21:47:13.297 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.2005-11-22 21:47:13.307 Over/underscan. V: 0, H: 0, XOff: 0, YOff: 0
2005-11-22 21:47:13.316 Using XV port 2402005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff:1280, disphoff: 7202005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 1080
2005-11-22 21:47:13.931 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded2005-11-22 21:47:13.933 Using deinterlace method bobdeint2005-11-22 21:47:13.934 Using realtime priority.2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work,
unimplemented in this driver?2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device/dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Set video sync frame interval to 333662005-11-22 21:47:
14.036 Using audio as timebase2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Video timing method: RTC2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Refresh rate: 16882, frame interval: 333662005-11-22 21:47:14.036 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:
14.172 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:14.172 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:14.857 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:14.992 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:15.063 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.199 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:15.270 waiting for prebuffer...2005-11-22 21:47:15.406 prebuffer wait timed out..2005-11-22 21:47:15.477 waiting for prebuffer...2005-

Re: [mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[Greg Estabrooks]

> I'm getting ready to build Myth from CVS and wanted to find out if MythGame
> is compatible with SVN? If so, what's the lastest version of it's
> compatability?

 What do you mean if MythGame is compatible? Do you mean if there is
a specific version of xmame you have to use? MythGame in SVN
no longer cares what version of xmame you use.

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[mythtv-users] More HD stuttering

[Chris Trown]

 And combing, for that matter.

 I posted yesterday asking some questions.  I looked into the 
suggestions, but I don't think they apply.  I didn't supply enough info. 
   So, here we go.  As much detail as I know.  Hopefully, somebody can 
point me in the right direction.  I'm a bit at a loss as to where to go 
next.


 The system is a 3.06 GHz P4 running Fedora Core 3.  The video Card 
is a NVidia 5200FX.  For capture, all I have is a HD3000.  I've checked 
that DMA is working on all the drives.  I built mythtv from stable 
source, 0.18.1.  I used the following configure options:


--enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb 
--dvb-path=/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1381_FC3smp/build/include 
--disable-firewire --disable-joystick --disable-ivtv --enable-proc-opt 
--disable-xvmc-vld --enable-opengl-vsync


 I'm getting stuttering and combing when playing HD.  The CPU is 
maxing out at 99% when playing.  The clips I am testing with are 
1080i(CSI).  I've tried using XvMC with BOB Deinterlacing filter.  I've 
also tried using libmpeg2 with the kernel and linear blend filter. 
Nothing seems to help and the CPU always goes through the roof.


 Here is the output from "mythfrontend -v playback".  I have "Use 
XvMC for playback" checked and bobdeint filter selected.


2005-11-22 21:46:49.885 New DB connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1280, height=720, numscreens=1
2005-11-22 21:46:49.891 Using screen 0, 1280x720 at 0,0
2005-11-22 21:46:49.895 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 
www.mythtv.org

2005-11-22 21:46:49.896 Enabled verbose msgs : important general playback
2005-11-22 21:46:50.016 max_width: 1280 max_height: 720
2005-11-22 21:46:50.066 Switching to square mode (blue)
2005-11-22 21:46:50.630 Joystick disabled.
2005-11-22 21:46:50.688 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
2005-11-22 21:46:50.976 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543 
(try 1 of 5)

2005-11-22 21:46:50.986 Using protocol version 15
2005-11-22 21:46:50.997 Starting media monitor.
2005-11-22 21:47:10.304 All Programs
2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97, 
1088) ->Interlaced Scan
2005-11-22 21:47:12.199 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088 
 fps: 29.97

2005-11-22 21:47:12.200 Estimated bitrate = 0
2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff: 
0, disphoff: 0

2005-11-22 21:47:12.431 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 1080
2005-11-22 21:47:12.435 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:12.571 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:12.719 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:13.155 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 detectInterlace(Detect Scan, Detect Scan, 29.97, 
1088) ->Interlaced Scan
2005-11-22 21:47:13.217 Interlaced: Interlaced Scan  video_height: 1088 
 fps: 29.97

2005-11-22 21:47:13.288 Estimated bitrate = 0
2005-11-22 21:47:13.296 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-11-22 21:47:13.297 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-11-22 21:47:13.307 Over/underscan. V: 0, H: 0, XOff: 0, YOff: 0
2005-11-22 21:47:13.316 Using XV port 240
2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. dispxoff 0, dispyoff: 0, dispwoff: 
1280, disphoff: 720

2005-11-22 21:47:13.321 Image size. imgx 0, imgy: 0, imgw: 1920, imgh: 1080
2005-11-22 21:47:13.931 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
2005-11-22 21:47:13.933 Using deinterlace method bobdeint
2005-11-22 21:47:13.934 Using realtime priority.
2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, 
unimplemented in this driver?
2005-11-22 21:47:14.035 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device 
/dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory

2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Set video sync frame interval to 33366
2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Using audio as timebase
2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Video timing method: RTC
2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 Refresh rate: 16882, frame interval: 33366
2005-11-22 21:47:14.036 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:14.172 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:14.172 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:14.857 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:14.992 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.063 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.199 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.270 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.406 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.477 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.612 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.683 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.819 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.819 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:15.953 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:15.954 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:17.801 prebuffering pause
2005-11-22 21:47:17.802 waiting for prebuffer...
2005-11-22 21:47:17.937 prebuffer wait timed out..
2005-11-22 21:47:17.937 waiting for prebuffer...
'video_output' mean

[mythtv-users] MythGame compatability and SVN??

[A JM]

I'm getting ready to build Myth from CVS and wanted to find out if
MythGame is compatible with SVN? If so, what's the lastest version of
it's compatability?

TIA
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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Jules Bean]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
Jules is basically right.  The problem is not that the remote filesystem 
doesn't follow symlinks, it's that NFS allows the symlink to be read as 
a symlink.  Then, the local kernel attempts to follow the symlink and 
that file location doesn't exist on your local machine.  If you make 
sure that the path to the recordings directory is identical on the local 
filesystem, it will work.  For example, if you have your recordings in 
"/myth/recordings" on the backend, either mount "/myth" at "/myth" or 
mount the recordings directory at "/myth/recordings" (depending on how 
much of the myth tree you want exported).




...or if mythrename.pl generated relative links, which is often the 
Right Thing to do (but not quite always!).


J
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[mythtv-users] test

[Danny Brow]

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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip

[Michael T. Dean]

Alex Vishnev wrote:


Thanks for the advice. I did not know that MADAGASCAR was DRM protected.
 

Technically, any CSS-protected DVD is DRM-protected, and decrypting that 
DVD on anything other than a licensed DVD player is a federal felony 
offense in the US (Digital Millenium Copyright Act)...


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Filename confusion - .nuv and .mpg

[Michael T. Dean]

Matt wrote:


I've used myth for about 2 years now.  I've always known that it
stores .nuv files,

True, but only when your realize that ".nuv files" simply means files 
whose filenames end with ".nuv"



but for the first time in a long time I looked in
my saved recordings directory and saw many more .mpg files than nuv
files.

What I'm used to seeing is: 1070_20050407005900_20050407013100.nuv

and what I see now for recent recordings is: 1065_2005110502.mpg

Why is that?  Is something being transcoded?  Does it now just default
to save to .mpg?
 

Previous versions of Myth always used the ".nuv" extension regardless of 
the file type.  Current SVN will put a ".mpg" extension on any file 
that's actually an MPEG-2 System file.  Therefore, users with DVB (which 
is broadcast in MPEG-2 TS) or ivtv cards (which output MPEG-2), now get 
".mpg" extensions.  Because the original is an MPEG-2 System file, 
there's no transcoding going on--just file naming to make people who 
think the file extension actually means something (i.e Windows 
users/people who have used MS operating systems long enough to buy into 
Bill G's "you can tell what kind of file it is by the extension" dogma) 
happy.


If you have a frame grabber, Myth actually encodes the video as either 
RTJPEG or MPEG-4 inside a NuppelVideo container.  Therefore, for these 
types of cards, you will get files that end with the ".nuv" extension.


There's no reason to worry about the filenames, so you don't have to 
change your ".nuv" files to ".mpg" files (although you can with 
mythrename.mpl--but be careful with it--see 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/162886#162886).


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Filename confusion - .nuv and .mpg

[Matt]

On 11/23/05, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 November 2005 12:56, Matt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've used myth for about 2 years now.  I've always known that it
> > stores .nuv files, but for the first time in a long time I looked in
> > my saved recordings directory and saw many more .mpg files than nuv
> > files.
> >
> > What I'm used to seeing is: 1070_20050407005900_20050407013100.nuv
> >
> > and what I see now for recent recordings is: 1065_2005110502.mpg
> >
> > Why is that?  Is something being transcoded?  Does it now just default
> > to save to .mpg?
>
> Looks like you're running the SVN version.  Recent changes were made to
> change the filename format from __.nuv to
> _.
>
> The  now reflects the container format of the recording.
> Files recorded from a DVB source, or from a hardware MPEG encoding
> card, will be named "*.mpg".  Files recorded using software encoding,
> or transcoded recordings, will be named "*.nuv".
>
> The content of the files has not changed, only the naming conventions.
> Previously, all files were "*.nuv", even if they were really MPEG
> files.
>
> HTH,
> JAC
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Excellent!  Thanks for the very nice explaination!!

Here's one more for you, I've noticed that in mythweb, the recordings
are linked with the "myth://" moniker.  What's the story behind that?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Filename confusion - .nuv and .mpg

[Joseph A. Caputo]

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 12:56, Matt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've used myth for about 2 years now.  I've always known that it
> stores .nuv files, but for the first time in a long time I looked in
> my saved recordings directory and saw many more .mpg files than nuv
> files.
> 
> What I'm used to seeing is: 1070_20050407005900_20050407013100.nuv
> 
> and what I see now for recent recordings is: 1065_2005110502.mpg
> 
> Why is that?  Is something being transcoded?  Does it now just default
> to save to .mpg?

Looks like you're running the SVN version.  Recent changes were made to 
change the filename format from __.nuv to 
_.

The  now reflects the container format of the recording.  
Files recorded from a DVB source, or from a hardware MPEG encoding 
card, will be named "*.mpg".  Files recorded using software encoding, 
or transcoded recordings, will be named "*.nuv".

The content of the files has not changed, only the naming conventions.  
Previously, all files were "*.nuv", even if they were really MPEG 
files.

HTH,
JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip

[Thom Paine]

On 11/23/05, Alex Vishnev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I did not know that MADAGASCAR was DRM protected. I
> just thought there was a problem in how I setup DVD ripping. So the question
> was really innocent, not trying to get information on how to do it. ;-).
> Btw, I agree that such discussions should not be part of the list.
>

XXX State of the Union is like that too.
--
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[mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip

[Alex Vishnev]

David,

Thanks for the advice. I did not know that MADAGASCAR was DRM protected. I
just thought there was a problem in how I setup DVD ripping. So the question
was really innocent, not trying to get information on how to do it. ;-).
Btw, I agree that such discussions should not be part of the list.

Alex


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[mythtv-users] Filename confusion - .nuv and .mpg

[Matt]

Hi,

I've used myth for about 2 years now.  I've always known that it
stores .nuv files, but for the first time in a long time I looked in
my saved recordings directory and saw many more .mpg files than nuv
files.

What I'm used to seeing is: 1070_20050407005900_20050407013100.nuv

and what I see now for recent recordings is: 1065_2005110502.mpg

Why is that?  Is something being transcoded?  Does it now just default
to save to .mpg?

Thanks!
Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] Downgrading SVN version

[Michael T. Dean]

Nick Rosier wrote:


On 11/23/05, Mattia Martinello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


How I can download a specified version of SVN version of MythTV? With

svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/trunk/mythtv

I can donwload only the latest version, that has some bugs...
   


svn help co
 


And http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

And
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/159549#159549
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/160125#160125
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/159765#159765

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[Andrew Close]

On 11/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:09:15PM +0100, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:
> > Wouldn't the safe bet be the last stable release?
>
> Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works with
> current stable Linux versions.  The point-releases to make Myth run on
> modern distros only upgraded the backend/frontend so you can't use the
> plugins and exporting is broken.  That's why so many non-developers are
> trying to use SVN versions.  You might be able to get a full Myth
> "old-stable" to install on an old distro installed from CD-Rom, but it
> would break the first time you tried to do any kind of update.
>

Mattia,

i'm assuming you're doing an all in one install; frontend & backend on
the same box.  you may want to give KnoppMyth a try.  if you have
fairly recent hardware it usually works with a minor tweak here or
there.  a new version was just released that fixes many bugs and uses
a stable version of MythTv.

for more info you may want to check out the KnoppMyth homepage:
http://www.mysettopbox.tv

or the KnoppMyth forums:
http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/

and always be sure to check the wiki when you have questions:
http://knoppmythwiki.org/

here is a list of the changes that have recently been included:
http://mysettopbox.tv/CHANGELOG.txt

hopefully that will help. :)
good luck!
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[mythtv-users] BE not recording, log snippet - any ideas?

[Steve Pugh]

Hi all,   My FE/BE has been  skipping  some new recordings lately, much to the dismay of my lovely bride and  to the glee of my friends who gloat about how their TiVos never skip a  beat (liars).   These have been new episodes, and they show up  in MythWeb's "Scheduled Recordings" page as upcoming, but for example  Monday's episode of Surface did not record.  Fortunately, I had  been running mythbackend -verbose, and piping its output to a text  file.  Here is what I noticed:I'll ask for help here rather than at the end, as the log is a bit lengthy.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!Best, SteveEarly Monday morning, a chunk of log output started to repeat with only  a second or so in between repeats.  It started like this (man, I  hope this formats properly...I'm using Yahoo!Mail):    2005-11-21 06:26:44.803 Scheduled 86
 items in 0.3 = 0.11 match + 0.19 place      2005-11-21 06:26:44.806 45  BACKEND_MESSAGE[]:[]SCHEDULE_CHANGE[]:[]emptyAt the time when Surface was due to record, there was this one-line blip:      2005-11-21 10:00:02.147 backend still changing state, waiting..Otherwise, the log was nothing but this block of text, repeating:  2005-11-21 19:57:26.271 Found 14 record profiles using max episode expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.272  - The Daily Show With Jon Stewart  2005-11-21 19:57:26.272  - Good Eats  2005-11-21 19:57:26.273  - Law & Order  2005-11-21 19:57:26.274  - CSI: NY  2005-11-21 19:57:26.275  - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation  2005-11-21 19:57:26.276  - Without a Trace  2005-11-21 19:57:26.276  - NUMB3RS  2005-11-21 19:57:26.277  - Surface  2005-11-21 19:57:26.278  - Lost  2005-11-21
 19:57:26.279  - Invasion  2005-11-21 19:57:26.280  - Survivor: Guatemala -- The Maya Empire  2005-11-21 19:57:26.280  - My Name Is Earl  2005-11-21 19:57:26.281  - Desperate Housewives  2005-11-21 19:57:26.282  - Boston Legal  2005-11-21 19:57:26.283 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 11 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.284 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 22 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.285 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 24 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.286 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 25 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.288 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 26 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.289 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 27 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.290 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 47 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.291 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 5 using max
 expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.292 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 51 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.294 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 54 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.295 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 56 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.296 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 61 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.297 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 66 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:26.298 Found -1 episodes in recording profile 69 using max expiration  2005-11-21 19:57:39.882 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 19:57:39.884 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 19:58:39.880 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 19:58:39.882 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21
 19:59:08.379 JobQueue::RecoverQueue: Checking for unfinished jobs to recover.  2005-11-21 19:59:08.381 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 19:59:39.879 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 19:59:39.881 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:00:39.877 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 20:00:39.879 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:01:39.874 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 20:01:39.876 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:02:39.872 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 20:02:39.874 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4,
 found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:03:39.869 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs from 00:00 to 23:59  2005-11-21 20:03:39.871 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:04:08.348 JobQueue::RecoverQueue: Checking for unfinished jobs to recover.  2005-11-21 20:04:08.350 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs search bitmask 4, found 0 total jobs  2005-11-21 20:04:39.867 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and to run new jobs 

Re: [mythtv-users] KnoppMyth R5A26

[Michael T. Dean]

Big Wave Dave wrote:


On 11/22/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Cecil Watson wrote:


My humble apologies for including a SVN version in R5A22.  It was a
mistake.  This has been rectified alnog with a few other small fixes.

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6944
http://www.mysettopbox.tv/CHANGELOG.txt
 


Been wondering if I should post this or not, so I'm posting with the
hope that perhaps it's possible to "head off some problems at the
pass."  Should someone mention the
   a) danger,
   b) issues, or
   c) proper approach (including downgrading the DB Schema)
of "upgrading" from R5A22 to R5A26?  (Option c being the ideal.)  Going
from anything before R5A22 to R5A26 isn't a problem, but those users who
upgraded to R5A22 have a database version (somewhere at or after 1095)
greater than that expected by R5A26 (probably 1083) and are likely to
have problems with an upgrade to R5A26.
   


The first link says...
"...If you are running R5A22, DON'T upgrade to R5A26"
 

Excellent.  I didn't notice that.  I checked the KnoppMyth home page and 
changelog and didn't see any warnings, so I was worried we'd get a lot 
of posts from "broken" upgrades.  Thanks for pointing it out, and I hope 
anyone who fails to read the forum announcement (like me) sees your 
message, here.  :)



It seems like if you ar running 22, you should stay with it. As they
say, "If isn't broken... don't try to fix it!"

My $0.02.
 


Agreed.  :)

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV demo

[chris]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:09:15PM +0100, Fredrik Karlsson wrote:
> Wouldn't the safe bet be the last stable release?

Unfortunately the last stable release is so old it no longer works with 
current stable Linux versions.  The point-releases to make Myth run on 
modern distros only upgraded the backend/frontend so you can't use the 
plugins and exporting is broken.  That's why so many non-developers are 
trying to use SVN versions.  You might be able to get a full Myth 
"old-stable" to install on an old distro installed from CD-Rom, but it 
would break the first time you tried to do any kind of update.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Michael T. Dean]

Jules Bean wrote:


Nick Rout wrote:


On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:40:31 +1000

Do you know why the symlinks that I created with mythlink.sh don't 
work 


when using them from a remote computer with the myth machines hard 
drive connect as an NFS drive over the network? Either that or 
programs like Xine can't play video files via symlinks, and gmplayer 
and kaffeine

won't even show symlinks in their file open dialogs?


remote filesystems often don't follow synlinkls, its a security thing.


This is as far as I know not true. I have used symlinks over NFS in 
the past quite extensively.


Typically they should be relative. Does this script perhaps use 
absolute links?


(Incidentally, programs which don't show symbolic links in their file 
dialogs are really broken)


Jules is basically right.  The problem is not that the remote filesystem 
doesn't follow symlinks, it's that NFS allows the symlink to be read as 
a symlink.  Then, the local kernel attempts to follow the symlink and 
that file location doesn't exist on your local machine.  If you make 
sure that the path to the recordings directory is identical on the local 
filesystem, it will work.  For example, if you have your recordings in 
"/myth/recordings" on the backend, either mount "/myth" at "/myth" or 
mount the recordings directory at "/myth/recordings" (depending on how 
much of the myth tree you want exported).


Another option is to use Samba.  With Samba you can a) specify a 
password (unlike NFS, which simply uses UID--which is easy to fake), b) 
potentially get better filesystem performance (although tuning Samba is 
significantly more difficult than tuning NFS, so often you get worse 
performance), c) access the linked files (Samba allows you to specify 
you want it to follow symlinks for you since Windows doesn't support 
symlinks).


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Re: [mythtv-users] Stop / Start Athcool just Befor / After a Recording

[Erik Karlin]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 09:06:40AM +0800, Bob wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 04:08:29PM +0800, Bob wrote:
> >
> >>Is there a way to run a script just before a recording starts and 
> >>another after it ends, ideally this would be specific to a capture 
> >>source as my next card (PVR 500) may not have this issue?
> >
> >I don't know how to trigger scripts when a recording starts, and 
> >managing sequential recordings would be a problem because you could end 
> >up with a race condition. It would be easier to use a cron job that 
> >parses http://localhost:6544/xml once per minute and looks for the 
> >appropriate tuner status:
> >
> >$ lynx -dump http://localhost:6544/xml | head -n 5
> >
> > >date="11/22/2005" >
> >
> > >hostname="linuxbox" />
> >
> >
> >You would want to look for the appropriate "Encoder" record and toggle
> >the external program based on the state field.
> 
> That could work, but it's a bit expensive and inelegant.
> 
> If it were possible to run a shell script when a recording starts and 
> ends, the end script could use your method to check if there is an 
> imminent recording and not restart Athcool if there is, that would fix 
> the potential race condition you highlighted.
> 
you could just hijack the channel change "script" functionality and
create a user job when the recording completes. The problem of
back-to-back recordings is still possible. maybe some clever file
locking scheme between a channel change (start) and user job (end) could
do the trick.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Editing Video crashes front end/gentoo (was What exactly does basic video editing do)

[Ben Edwards]

On 23/11/05, Christopher McEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/22/05, Ben Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > OK, so to actualy remove the video I need to set cut points and press
> > x to add to transcode queue.
> >
> > Problem is skipping through the recording to set the cutpoints crashes
> > the frontend.  I managed to set the first cut point then when going to
> > the next the frontend crashed.  I think this was when I went over the
> > begining of and add brake.
> >
> > I have tried a couple of times and even recompiled myth.  I am using
> gennoo.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > Ben
> >
> > On 22/11/05, Michael T. Dean < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ben Edwards wrote:
> > >
> > > >Was wondering what exactly basic video editing does,
> > > >
> > > Allows you to set cut points.  You can also "import" the commercial cut
> > > list using 'z' and then adjust as necessary.
> > >
> > > >it does not actualy seem to alter the file.
> > > >
> > > Correct.
> > >
> > > >Do I need to transcode.
> > > >
> > > If you want to alter the file ( i.e. actually remove the cut portions
> > > instead of just skipping them on playback from within Myth (won't be
> > > skipped if played by any other player)).
> > >
> > > >I gues I just select add to transcode queue.
> > > >
> > > Or type 'x' when viewing the recording (which does the same).
> > >
> > > >Do I need to set anything up or does this just work?
> > > >
> > > Myth must be properly configured.  ;)
> > >
> > > >not done transcodeing before/dont know mutch about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I highly recommend you test first on a recording you don't mind
> > > deleting.  If you don't have any, make one just for testing.
> > >
> > > Mike
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> I have the same problem with some recordings, its when there is an aspect
> ratio change.. its never really bothered me enough for me to investigate as
> I rarely use the edit function.

Problem is I want to as if I record something to DVD I want to chop
out adverts first.

Ben

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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Michael T. Dean]

Christian Borchmann wrote:

i found and modified mythlink.pl to fit my system. 

is there a way to seperate the date and time wit an underscore like 


11_22_20_15_ARD...

I am not that good in perl to find out that myself...
 


mythlink.pl doesn't exist anymore.  A (way too long) history:

0.18.x have mythlink.sh, which was a great first implementation by Dale 
Gass, but embedded a perl script in a bash script and required the user 
to make changes to values within the embedded perl.


I patched mythlink.sh to allow all settings to be specified in the bash 
script and to allow user-specified format strings.


Chris Petersen had been working on a replacement for mythlink.sh called 
mythlink.pl which completely did away with the shell script and allowed 
specification of format specifiers, etc via the command line.  The new 
mythlink.pl had far more capabilities than the original mythlink.sh, but 
since the patched mythlink.sh still had capabilities that mythlink.pl 
didn't, Chris left both in the tree.


I ported the extra capabilities of mythlink.sh to mythlink.pl.  At this 
point, mythlink.sh was removed.


Chris Pinkham and Isaac modified Myth to allow the use of any filename 
in the database and to include the appropriate file extension on files.


Chris Petersen modified mythlink.pl to allow the user to actually rename 
files on the filesystem and update their names in the database (as well 
as to create links with the --link option).  At this point, he renamed 
the script to mythrename.pl and mythlink.pl was removed from the tree.


Therefore, since:
   a) you're using SVN
   b) you didn't explicitly say that was by accident (i.e. using 
KnoppMyth R5A22 ;)
I highly recommend that you upgrade to current SVN before attempting to 
modify the script as any changes you make to mythlink.pl will have to be 
ported to mythrename.pl or will never be accepted.


If you are using KnoppMyth R5A22, your best bet is probably to wait for 
mythrename.pl in 0.19.  As of now, there is not a way to specify 
date/time formats in mythrename.pl.  I have a couple of low-priority 
changes I plan to make to mythrename.pl, so I may add that capability 
once I find the time for the other changes.


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Opengl

[Rasmus B. Nielsen]

> Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > And so how does one tell if his nvidia drivers are installed 
> > "correctly"?  I'm running nvidia drivers built via portage on a Gentoo 
> > 2.6.13 system.  Yet I don't think I have any video acceleration as 
> > visualizations seem to "stutter" slightly and my CPU is at 100%.  This 
> > is on an Athlon XP 2800.
> 
> 
> run glxinfo
> 
> it produces a lot of output, you might want glxinfo | less
> 
> If you see something like 'Direct Rendering' or 'Direct Rendering: Yes' 
> then you have hardware GL working. If you see mutterings about software 
> and MesaGL then it's software.  (exact output varies somewhat from OS to 
> OS and system to system)
> 
I have "Direct Rendering: Yes" in glxinfo.
I have also compiled the mythtv with opengl support, what do I need to do to 
stop my mythtv from frezing (mythfrondt uses 100% CPU) when I try to use opengl 
(in the music-player or in the gallery) ?

Regards,
Rasmus
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RE: [mythtv-users] Two Nova-T cards?

[Weston, Toby]

Thanks, will do tonight when I can get at my box. BTW anyone know how I can
get outlook to reply to list messages properly? I'm annoying myself with
this top-posting!

-Original Message-
From: Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 November 2005 16:55
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Two Nova-T cards?

On 22/11/05, Weston, Toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just wondering what people's experiences of using two Nova-T DVB cards
> in the
>
> UK? I know people have with great success but were there any gotchas?
> The
>
> reason I ask is I got my first card running (yey!) and got all flashy
> and
>
> threw in the other one, now ... neither work! I'll look into it more
but
> just
>
> wondered if there was any obvious no-nos?

Do you want to post the output of your messages file when you modprobe
the cx88_dvb driver? When you say 'neither work' does this mean they
are configured properly but software doesn't tune, or that they
conflict with each other and do not get configured at all?

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Userfreindly filenames of .nuv files?

[Jules Bean]

Nick Rout wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:40:31 +1000
Do you know why the symlinks that I created with mythlink.sh don't work 
when using them from a remote computer with the myth machines hard drive 
connect as an NFS drive over the network? Either that or programs like 
Xine can't play video files via symlinks, and gmplayer and kaffeine

won't even show symlinks in their file open dialogs?


remote filesystems often don't follow synlinkls, its a security thing.




This is as far as I know not true. I have used symlinks over NFS in the 
past quite extensively.


Typically they should be relative. Does this script perhaps use absolute 
links?


(Incidentally, programs which don't show symbolic links in their file 
dialogs are really broken)


Jules
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Re: [mythtv-users] Opengl

[Rasmus B. Nielsen]

I use a VIA card, and I have the binary drivers installed, and I am using it.

-Original Message-
From: "Raphael Pooser"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 22-11-05 23:46:15
To: "Discussion about mythtv"
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Opengl

Rasmus B. Nielsen wrote:

>hi
>
>what is the problem when I try to use opengl in music-player or in the 
gallery my box freezes, and uses 100% of CPU. But I have installed opengl and 
it works (I have 250 FPS in glxgears,before I added DRI to X11, I had 54 FPS) ?
>
>Regards,
>Rasmus
>  
>
>
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what kind of card are you using?  Do you have the nvidia binary drivers 
or ati binary drivers installed, etc?
Raphael
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