Re: [mythtv-users] Debian 'apt-get build-dep mythtv' problem?
On 1/28/06, A JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that currently my Xbox is using xfree86 instead of xorg-x11, I think there is a difference... The librarary 'libxvmc-dev' is part of xorg-x11 so does this mean I need to use xorg-x11 as opposed to xfree86? I think this is all academic. Since the xbox doesn't work with binary only Nvidia linux drivers, your xbox can't make use of xvmc anyway. You only need libxvmc-dev installed if you're enabling xvmc during the mythtv compile. Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian 'apt-get build-dep mythtv' problem?
On 1/27/06, A JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a bit of a problem getting the dependancies for Myth so that I can compile it on my Xbox. When I run 'apt-get dep-build mythtv' I get the message Build depends for mythtv cannot be satisfied because the package libxvmc-dev cannot be found. After doing some reading it looks like this library should been installed with xfree86 which I guess is the default xserver on the xbox using Debian. I've tried to use apt to get the file but get couldn't find package libxvmc-dev so how do I get this lib and move on? Am I mising a dependancy in my sources.list? http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libxvmc-dev I'm guessing that you are running Debian stable which doesn't contain this package. If you don't want the xvmc functionality, you could always remove the build-dep and adjust the debian/rules file accordingly. Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki
An additional note - I'll be adding an official link from the main mythtv.org website as soon as 0.19's released (ie., one week-ish) Isaac Yes!! We finally have a wiki! Forget the wiki, 0.19 is going to be released! :) So what's the plan? A release candidate first, or just a 0.19-fixes branch with releases if necessary? Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?
On 1/18/06, A JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even after the upgrade still having thesame issue? Build Date: 31 December 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Jan 18 01:03:03 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (EE) NVXBOX(0): No V_BIOS found error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver /SecurityPolicy (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/lircm No such file or directory. (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/lircm No such file or directory. Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! waiting for X server to shut down . Perhaps you should cut your losses and install xebian? I know lots of people have xebian and mythtv working well. Not so sure about Fedora for xbox with mythtv. Getting your Fedora xbox install running X is becoming increasingly offtopic. Sorry for being so negative, but I think we might get your xbox frontend running quicker this way. Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Xbox nothing to do error?
On 1/17/06, A JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I recompiled again using distcc awesome application thanks for the tip. The compiling time went from 36 hours or so to less than 8, I'm not really sure how long because I went to bed. Installation of distcc wasn't as straight forward as it let on it was missing some points, it was close but then anything that I've found with Linux has been close, there are assumptions made... I'm sure that will get a few reply's sorry if it offends anyone I realize that is a very broad statement and should be loosley interpreted.. Back to the problem I'm having, compiling completed fine this time without the Nothing to be done for Install message. I think my problem was not exporting qt before compiling. Anyway, there is no application mythtv-setup, it doesn't exist? I have no idea why? I don't know why you can't find it but ... mythtv-setup is a backend application. An xbox can only be used as a frontend as it doesn't support video capture. ** This might help for anyone in the future trying to install distcc If your compiling on an XBOX you NEED IT! Download it from http://distcc.samba.org (wget http://.../distcc-2.18.3.tar.gz) Untar the source code on your hard disk (tar xvfz distcc-2.18.3.tar.gz) Compile and install distcc by typing in a shell as root: $ ./configure $ make $ make install Once installed on each computer, start the daemon on each computer by typing as root in a shell: $ distccd --daemon --allow 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 (add the IP for each computer allowed to connect to it) On the computer that has the source code for the software you are planning to compile, type the following: $ export DISTCC_HOSTS='localhost computer1 computer2' (if you rebooted you must run this again) When running distcc from an xbox, you'd probably find it quicker to drop the 'localhost' from DISTCC_HOSTS and have all the compilation done on the remote boxes. Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?
I'll verify the correct command 'startx' when I get back to the house tonight. I do believe I tried to run X by using 'start x' though... Is there a command I can run to check the running processes on the Xbox to see if X is even running? It should be easy enough to tell is X is running! Doesn't your xbox linux boot into a desktop? Getting mythtv to work on an xbox isn't *that* difficult and it does work quite well, so don't give up. Let's start at the start, what exactly have you installed on your xbox. Gentoo, xebian, something else?! Regards, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?
On 1/15/06, A JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responding to my own thread. The answer was that gcc-3.2 and g++-3.2 were not installed I also enabled memalign and the error disappeared when running ./configure. Currently the XBOX has been compiling for nearly 24 hours, this is insane! How much longer can it go With only 64MB of RAM, another day maybe? Freeing up memory, by shutting down X for example, might help. Can I compile this on another box then move it back to the xbox? I found this thread with the suggestion to mount the drive but no real directions Perform the compile on your backend. Ideally, you want to optimise for P3 and a small memory system. After the 'make' has finished, use NFS to export the source directory. Mount the NFS share on your xbox and perform the 'make install' from there. Hope this helps, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problems - missing thumbnail causes backend to crash
On 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 07:24:32PM +, Alexander Fisher wrote: I run Debian and have noticed that when it boots it displays 'Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background' when starting mysql. I''m guessing this is the mysqlcheck you're referring to. But it didn't seem to fix my corruption. In my case I received an email saying that the following tables were corrupt or in use When I stopped Myth and ran the check manually everything was OK. That's nice of it. I've just checked and I've had plenty of emails too! I really must start forwarding them to somewhere I actually check once in a while! :) Thanks for the tip, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problems - missing thumbnail causes backend to crash
On 10/30/05, Richie Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, I am having a bit of a problem with my 18.1 installation. When I try and use Mythweb to display a list of recordings, I have a problem where a bunch of the programs I have recorded are missing their thumbnails, this causes mythbackend to go into an infinite loop with 'waiting for a thread..' So, 2 questions, why is mythbackend not create the thumbnails? and why does Mythweb take out mythbackend? If anyone has any idea what is going on, could they let me know please? I've got a bunch of recordings without thumbnails. I don't think I can skip through them properly when playing them either. My backend doesn't crash, however mythweb does take a long time to load the 'recorded programmes' page. I believe the problem was caused by running mythtv with a corrupted/crashed? mysql database after a power cut. It took me a week or so to figure out something wasn't right. After I ran mysqlcheck, all new recordings were fine again. Other than deleting the recordings affected, I don't know how to fix this but would be interested to learn of a way to regenerate the missing database data. Perhaps someone else knows how to do this? Also, am I right in thinking mysql has a mode of operation that is more resilient to power failure? Kind Regards, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problems - missing thumbnail causes backend to crash
On 10/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 04:07:26PM +, Alexander Fisher wrote: After I ran mysqlcheck, all new recordings were fine again. The Debian version of MySQL does a mysqlcheck as part of the boot sequence, so when recovering from a power failure (or crash) that's one less thing to worry about. I'm surprised your distro doesn't do that as well, but it's easy enough to add. If you don't want to get your hands dirty in the boot scripts you can add an @reboot cron job. I run Debian and have noticed that when it boots it displays 'Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background' when starting mysql. I''m guessing this is the mysqlcheck you're referring to. But it didn't seem to fix my corruption. Perhaps I should change the 'MYCHECK_PARAMS=--all-databases --fast --silent' line in /etc/mysql/debian-start? Remove the --fast? As for fixing my messed up recordings, any thoughts? Cheers, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 09:35:24AM -0400, James Grant wrote: On Sunday 23 October 2005 9:36 pm, Paul Pick wrote: I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Can you please give some details here? I haven't had any luck building the plugins :( I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. If you're using Debian testing (possibly unstable too), feel free not to bother and use my recompiled packages instead. Replace your mythtv binary apt source with ... deb http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian testing main Then again, I've only got 256kbit upload so it might be quicker to recompile yourself! Cheers, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again, SUCCESS
On 10/14/05, Russell Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which release of Myth gets installed by this process? Any chance it is release-0-18-fixes (aka 0.18.2 source - revision 7448)? 0.18.1 only but don't let this bother you. As far as I can see, the 0.18 fixes branch hasn't seen much go in since 0.18.1 was released. You're not really going to miss a few gcc4 compile time fixes are you? Isaac - Is it worth looking for other fixes to backport from the trunk or is 0.19 likely to emerge in the next month or so? Anyway, I'm happy that my repository has been of help to people, but I think some of you are giving me too much credit. I'm beginning to feel like a bit of a fraud! All I've done is recompile somebody else's deb source packages to produce debian etch compatible binary packages. Not only this, but so far I haven't contributed a single line of code to the project! So please, a big thankyou to Matt for his expert packaging skills and of course Isaac and the gang for their most excellent code. I feel a lot better for that :) Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
On 10/13/05, Vladan Bato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written before with my difficulties with installing mythtv on Xebian. No matter what repositories I used I couldn't manage to install mythtv. I got some suggestions on this list. Specifically to follow the instructions at this page: http://www.mythtv-xbox.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=36 and use the apt sources posted in a reply. Well, yesterday I finally found the time to try that by doing a Xebian 1.1.4 install from scratch. I managed to install mythtv-frontend, but when I try to install mythvideo I get a broken packages error (details below). I browsed the www.mythtv-xbox.org forums and it seems that I'm not alone with this problem, and that nobody got beyond installing the frontend. It all must have worked some time ago, but it doesn't anymore. The errors are probably due to Xebian using sarge, while the mythtv repository uses sid. What should I do now? Should I do a dist-upgrade? Should I try recompiling MythTv (and wait a few days for it to finish)? A few weeks ago I rebuilt the mythtv debian source packages against libraries available in etch. These *might* install on xebian. Add http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian/ etch main to your apt sources and comment out the other mythtv source to find out. If this doesn't work, I wouldn't go as far as doing a dist-upgrade. Just change the apt sources list to point to unstable and then try installing mythvideo again. Hope this helps, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox, again
On 10/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vladan, I feel your pain. I cannot wait to hear an answer. I even tried to compile from source, but that resulted in other errors. I am not concerned with the long build times, so I would appreciate it if some itelligent person could spell out the steps to compile from source that work on an xbox. I compiled my backend from source for a Mandrake machine, so I am familiar with the process. I am confused as to what source to use for a debian (xbox) install. Should I just grab the source according to the mythtv install instructions? Or should I use the source that has already been packaged at deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv? I reviewed that source at http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian and the source for mythtv appears to be based on 0.18.1.4 and the plug-ins on 0.18.1.2. Is this a concern? The mdz source versions are actually 0.18.1-4 and 0.18.1-2. The -4 and -2 have been appended by the package maintainer. The mythtv packages has just been tweaked and rereleased more times than the plugin packages. But they're both based on mythtv 0.18.1 so no need to be concerned. Check the debian/changelog file for more details. Anyway, I used pbuilder to rebuild the packages against etch. This website http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize has some hints on how to do this if you want to try it yourself. I had a bit of bother building the plugin packages until I figured out how to add the libmyth package I had previously built to the pbuilder chroot. BTW I also have an xbox frontend, but I set it up when everything 'just worked' a few months ago. If I'm feeling adventerous, I might try and build some xbox optimised packages. I wonder if I'll notice any performance improvement if I go for -Os and --mtune=pentium3? Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Setting up time syncronisation
Geek Stuff wrote: I've trying to set up time syncing on my Mythbox as the time seems to drifting quite badly... I've added ntpdate ntp2d.mcc.ac.uk to cron Not really the way go about it anyway. ntpdate typically gets run at startup to sync the time. After this ntpd should be run instead. It can continuously track one, or preferably more time servers. As to your timezone problem, what distro. are you using? Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] RE: Newbie needs help choosing hardware for use in the UK
Hi again. I just thought I should update you on my progress. I wouldn't want somebody searching the list archives to make the same mistake as me ... So, I went and bought the Nova-Ts. Its just a shame that they seem to be completely incompatible with my motherboard! I don't have to worry about which driver I use. They don't even appear when I do an lspci! I've tried just about everything I can think of - different bios settings, different PCI slots, removing all other cards, trying one at a time etc. Has anybody else had similar experiences? Perhaps Scan will agree to exchange them for two of the other freeview cards they do. What's really annoying is I also bought some new ECC RAM, ide controller and some cooling. Most of this will be completely useless if I have to buy a new motherboard :( Ideas, (or just general sympathy) welcome. Alex -Original Message- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:45:26 - From: Alexander Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mythtv-users] Newbie needs help choosing hardware for use in the UK To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. I had a little play with mythTV over the weekend and was very impressed. Great work guys! I was using an old Hauppaggue frame grabber and no soundcard, but it did suffice as proof of concept. I'm now ready to take the plunge and invest in some proper hardware. I've got a base PC which I think will be good enough and I plan to get a secondhand xbox to use as a frontend. Here's the spec of what I've got... Gigabyte GA-6BXD MB Dual Pentium III 800Mhz 352MB 100Mhz SDRAM 250GB PATA HD (Western Digital) 30GB PATA HD with Debian Sarge installed. nVidia MX200 (but I guess this isn't relevant for a backend only system) Living in the UK, 2 DVB cards seem to be the way forward. Am I right in thinking that they all produce MPEG2 streams so no encoding has to be done in software? I've come up with a 3 card shortlist all available from www.scan.co.uk (where I'll be placing an order for some unrelated stuff later this week.) They are ... Avermedia DVB-T PCI Card £64.44 Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-T Freeview receiver PCI (909) £62.06 Vision + PCI TV Tuner - HDTV Compatible + Remote £46.06 Do all these cards definately have suitable drivers? I think I read somewhere that not all Nova-T's were the same. I wouldn't want to end up with an unsupported variant. Or should I just go for the cheapest? Shouldn't the outputted MPEG2 stream be identical for each card? The option to receive some of the top-up-tv channels might be good too. Has anybody got this working yet? I'm hoping that the system will be capable of recording two programmes, whilst simultaneously letting me watch a previously recorded show on the xbox. I don't suppose I'll want to do this that often but it would be nice. Since my MB only supports UDMA-2, I'm also thinking of buying an addon PCI ATA card. I'm guessing I won't need any soundcards in a DVB only system? Wow, what a lot of questions! I really hope that somebody can help me out with some of these. Thanks! Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Newbie needs help choosing hardware for use in the UK
Hello. I had a little play with mythTV over the weekend and was very impressed. Great work guys! I was using an old Hauppaggue frame grabber and no soundcard, but it did suffice as proof of concept. I'm now ready to take the plunge and invest in some proper hardware. I've got a base PC which I think will be good enough and I plan to get a secondhand xbox to use as a frontend. Here's the spec of what I've got... Gigabyte GA-6BXD MB Dual Pentium III 800Mhz 352MB 100Mhz SDRAM 250GB PATA HD (Western Digital) 30GB PATA HD with Debian Sarge installed. nVidia MX200 (but I guess this isn't relevant for a backend only system) Living in the UK, 2 DVB cards seem to be the way forward. Am I right in thinking that they all produce MPEG2 streams so no encoding has to be done in software? I've come up with a 3 card shortlist all available from www.scan.co.uk (where I'll be placing an order for some unrelated stuff later this week.) They are ... Avermedia DVB-T PCI Card £64.44 Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-T Freeview receiver PCI (909) £62.06 Vision + PCI TV Tuner - HDTV Compatible + Remote £46.06 Do all these cards definately have suitable drivers? I think I read somewhere that not all Nova-T's were the same. I wouldn't want to end up with an unsupported variant. Or should I just go for the cheapest? Shouldn't the outputted MPEG2 stream be identical for each card? The option to receive some of the top-up-tv channels might be good too. Has anybody got this working yet? I'm hoping that the system will be capable of recording two programmes, whilst simultaneously letting me watch a previously recorded show on the xbox. I don't suppose I'll want to do this that often but it would be nice. Since my MB only supports UDMA-2, I'm also thinking of buying an addon PCI ATA card. I'm guessing I won't need any soundcards in a DVB only system? Wow, what a lot of questions! I really hope that somebody can help me out with some of these. Thanks! Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
