Re: [mythtv-users] whats the best graphics card for HD playback?

2006-01-23 Thread William Lewis
The truth is graphics drivers aren't there yet, for any card, for the
kind of tasks we might want to do with mythtv, when it comes to HD.
Raphael

I couldn't disagree with you more.  I paid $60 for an nVidia 6200TC, and it 
works like a dream.  I connected DVI - HDMI, and I can do things better 
with it than with the TV's built-in decoder.  I noticed that when I scaled 
the image properly, I get more of the picture through my video card than I 
do when the TV decodes the stream itself.  And it's all digital until it 
gets inside the television.  What more do you want?  It sounds more like 
your TV is the problem to me.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] What's the minimum that I can do to view a recording from a P

2006-01-23 Thread William Lewis
My myth box is giving no sound.  My first step in debugging is to see if
sound is being recorded.  So, if I record a few minutes of a show, how
do I get it so I can view it in WMP or QuickTime on a Machine that I
know has working audio?

If there is not a FOOL PROOF (searching for a control group, not new
points of failure) way, then I would like to post it to my pub folder
and have someone DL and test it for me.

Please advise.

My suggestion would be to take a known working file 
(ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/english.au for example), 
and get that to play.  If you can hook something up with an 1/8th inch to 
RCA cable or plug directly in to PC speakers, that would be a good first 
step.  Once you get that working, then you can move on to more advanced 
stuff (.asoundrc configuration, AC3 passthrough, whatever...)  But first 
things first.  Is it a system-wide issue or a MythTV issue?  I would say 
that's the first step.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] What's the minimum that I can do...

2006-01-23 Thread William Lewis
I think mplayer is probably the most flexible...  'mplayer -ao alsa 
filename' should do it, I think...  If you want to get creative with it, 
feel free to screw around with the -ao option, using -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 
for example.  Run 'mplayer -ao help' for more information about this option.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread William Lewis

Do you have volume control via myth with this method?

I can get all my audio output through the spdif connector, but can
not find anyway of controlling the volume via myth (this would be my
preferred option as I like the on screen volume display).

My amp is in a different room (as is the myth box for that matter).
So I would not have any visual indication of mute or volume level if
I don't do it via the on screen display.

Ben

No, Ben, I don't.  And, as I understand it, this is impossible.  Since we're 
just passing through a digital signal to the receiver, it's all up to the 
receiver to deal with it.  In order to change the volume, we would need to 
decode the audio, sample down the volume, reencode it, then pass it on to 
the receiver.  Maybe it's possible, but it certainly is not very efficient.  
And, by the way, this is all just speculation.  I don't really know how it 
works, but my explanation made sense to me.

Sorry,
Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] HD3000 DVB Recordings - Freezes on Playback

2006-01-20 Thread William Lewis

Well, the good news is that now I am not an isolated incident of this.  I
am experiencing almost exactly what you are.  I say almost because I 
haven't
broken down the circumstances under which it may freeze.  But, when it does
happen, my experience is exactly the same as yours.  My current attempt at
fixing this involves changing out my video FS from reiser to ext3.  I did
that last night but haven't be able to test it yet.  What FS are you using?

I'm experiencing something similar with HDTV, but the frontend only freezes 
when I am in LiveTV mode and the show ends.  Watching recordings works 
beautifully.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-20 Thread William Lewis
How 'bout simply disabling 'use video as timebase' at run-time when 
passing

raw AC3, regardless of what 'use video as timebase' is set to.


Yeah.  That's what I was trying to say (that's why I compared it to the
runtime disabling of AC-3 passthrough with timestretch and why I said,
[if] there's an AC-3 stream).  Guess I should have used that
all-important word, runtime, though.

Mike


I've never posted a patch to this list before, but how does this look, and, 
if the answer is Good, then what do I do with it?




disable_timebase_for_passthru.patch
Description: Binary data
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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis

To both of you, when I finally broke down and used Myth's internal
alsa controls, everything went smooth from there.  My Audio Output
Device is:
ALSA:default

I am using ALSA:default also...  What are you doing for volume control and 
mixer device?  And when I uncheck the AC3 passthrough box, everything is 
sent to the receiver fine...  Just no 5.1.


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Re: [mythtv-users] No audio (usually) - Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
When running mythfrontend and watching live tv, I  get about a half second 
of sound, followed by 5-20 seconds of silence,  another half second of 
sound, etc.  Mythfrontend is print out  Audio buffer overflow, audio data 
lost!  I can play a previously  recorded file after installing mythvideo, 
and cat /dev/video0   foo.mpg produces a video file that plays correctly 
with sound.   Xawtv doesn't work yet, but I just installed it for the first 
time and  doubtlessly screwed up the configuration somewhere.

Erik, I'm getting the exact same type of problem.  Is your output analog or 
digital?  Is it to PC speakers or to a receiver?  Everything works fine when 
I turn off AC3 passthrough, by the way, except (as I said before) the 5.1.  
I don't see the buffer overflow error, though.  Maybe these two are related, 
maybe not.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis



From: Adam Propeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:56:13 -0600

So if I only show /dev/dsp and /dev/adsp in my device list, does that mean 
I
don't have Alsa support compiled in? I'm not seeing anything other than
those two devices. I assumed that /dev/adsp was the ALSA device.


I have to manually type in ALSA:default for audio device, and default for 
mixer device.  (Or whatever, same as mplayer's device argument, e.g. mplayer 
-ao alsa:device=default == mythtv ALSA:default).  Myth detected that I had 
ALSA automatically, and IIRC, /dev/dsp does actually map to ALSA:hw0,0.  But 
don't quote me on that.  Try aplay -L for a list of ALSA devices available 
on your system.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] Fusion Lite card and adding cable channels

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
I need your help. I'm on comcast and got my Fusion Lite card working. It's
my second tuner card(/dev/dvb/adapter1/dvr0). I have 107 services found by
atscscan tool. Now, I would like to add those channels to mythtv. However, 
I
could not find any easy to follow article. Can someone please tell me how 
to
add one channel and I'll do the rest. I'm so confused with those PIDS or
PSIP, etc. I also read somewhere that I need to modify a table, I guess
dtv_multiplex, but there is no clear instruction or example.

Well, Neil, I recommend you upgrade to a subversion build.  The channel 
scanning is very, very easy, and as far as I can tell DVB stuff is much 
improved.  Just my two cents.  IIRC, 0.18.1 has no channel scan facility.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
Everything is running into my AV Receiver, that's where my volume is
controlled.  I uncheck the box for internal volume controls.  There
was a post to the list a while back on how to send everything out over
the spdif, and have your receiver decide if it's AC3 or PCM, the key
was in the .asoundrc.  I can't find it off hand, but a bit of a search
will probably turn it up, it was probably in the last 2 weeks.

Chad

I came across something while browsing through the developer's mailing 
list...  Do you have Enable video as timebase checked or unchecked?


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Re: [mythtv-users] Fusion Lite card and adding cable channels

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis

I downloaded this morning 0.18.2 STABLE relese from cvs.mythtv.org but not
the trunk version. Is the scanning facility not good on this version?

Thanks Will!

I have no idea, unfortunately.  I do know that I have very few problems with 
the subversion build, fewer than I had with the stable branch.  Sorry, maybe 
someone else knows the answer to that.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis
For anyone following the thread, once Use video as timebase was disabled, 
everything worked perfectly.  The trick was to have everything with AC3 
passed through by Myth and to have everything else sampled to 48000 Hz for 
output via PCM.  ALSA made this second part possible.  Thanks for everyone's 
help.

Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-19 Thread William Lewis

Yeah.  Shouldn't video as timebase be disabled if AC-3 Passthrough
is enabled and there's an AC-3 stream?  (Kind of like AC-3 is disabled
when the user initiates timestretch--at least until Mark finishes his
AC-3 re-encode work.)

Mike

The only difficulty is an implementation detail.  Since the settings are on 
different screens, the setting for Use video as timebase would have to be 
tri-state: Off, On, Was on but ac3 is disabled.  Another 2 cents worth.  If 
the user goes from AC3 passthrough off to on, this would disable the video 
as timebase.  Well, if he changes his mind, it should go back to being on.  
However, if it was off the whole time, then changing the AC3 setting 
wouldn't matter.

Will


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[mythtv-users] AC3 and/or S/PDIF (again)

2006-01-18 Thread William Lewis
This is a new one for me...

I am running subversion from yesterday, and I cannot for the life of me get 
S/PDIF to send a 5.1 signal to my receiver.  Xine works fine.  Mplayer works 
fine with Myth recordings.  But Myth does strange things.  When I start a 
program, it may stutter then go out for ten seconds then start back up for a 
couple of seconds.  If I turn off AC3 pass through, then everything works 
fine, but it's only two channel sound.  Any help would be most appreciated, 
because this is driving me insane.

Thanks in advance, and I'd be more than happy to provide more information if 
it will help.
Will Lewis


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RE: [mythtv-users] Myth 1280x720 modeline on screenplay 5000

2005-11-17 Thread William Lewis

I found this website helpful:
http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/video_card_configuration.html
I don't know what an InFocus ScreenPlay is, but I ended up driving a 42 
Grand Wega with DVI out - HDMI in.  I think the VGA route would have been 
much simpler, though.  In particular, look at the Modelines ready-to-go for 
native HD display section.


Will



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Subject: [mythtv-users] Myth  1280x720 modeline on screenplay 5000
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:48:55 -0500

I've been running MythTV for about 4 months now, and I'm pretty much sold.
Most of my friends are too. I picked up an InFocus ScreenPlay 5000 last
night, which runs at a native rez of 1280x720. I've also got a regular 17
CRT monitor, for when I don't feel like watching TV on a 6-foot-wide 
screen.

I'm driving both through the standard VESA output, but *could* get a DVI
cable if necessary (for about $40).
My myth system is running on a Pundit-R w/ ATI 9100IGP chipset on FC4.

So, my question is:
I need to set up a modeline to drive output at 1280x720. Has anyone set 
this
up yet, and either has one, or can point me in a direction where I can 
learn

more about this?
2. Since the monitor  the projector have different ratios, I don't expect
the CRT to take to a 1280x720 too well. Is there a tool that I can use to
easily change resolutions (preferrably with a hotkey)?

Thank you!




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[mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis
When I try to fire up watching live TV with XvMC hardware acceleration 
enabled, I get an X11 BadAlloc error with my nVidia 6200 TC and XOrg 6.8.2.  
I'm running a subversion branch with 0.18 fixes, and my system is configured 
with 2 HD-3000s and the latest NVIDIA x86-64 drivers.  The processor is an 
AMD Athlon 64 3200+, and I have 1 GB of ram in it.  When I disable the XvMC 
acceleration, it plays back, but it's very, very choppy, and the sound gives 
tons of prebuffering pause errors, or something like that.  xdpyinfo tells 
me that I have both XVideo and XVideo-MotionCompensation extensions 
available.  Anyone have any hints or additional configuration questions to 
help me out?  I'd appreciate it tremendously.


Thanks in advance,
Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis

Has anyone ever gotten XvMC working on a 64 bit native AMD64 machine?  I
was under the impression that it just didn't work yet.

Greg


That may very well be the case.  If it is, what's the best alternative?  I 
would guess that the next nVidia release might take care of it, but I'd 
rather not sit around on my hands until that happens.  And what about the 
slowness of plain XVideo?  Thanks.


Will


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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis



I think your machine is fast enough that you may not need XvMC...
and if you don't need it you might be happier without it.  I put up
with XvMC only because my AthlonXP 2100 can't cut it without it.  Try
disabling xvmc and enabling libmpeg2 decoding. (I think it's on the
same page in the playback settings.)  With mpeg2 decoding you should
be able to decode without chopiness, ymmv.


What sort of deinterlace setting should I apply?  That may be a problem as 
well, because if I remember correctly, the 1080i inputs are a lot worse than 
the 720p.



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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis



I sometimes use XvMC on my x86-64 system.   It does work, though it
has its issues.

My machine is very similar to the original poster's (Athlon64 3200+,
Nvidia FX5200, Nvidia 7676 drivers,  Gentoo x86_64, MythTV svn 7337;
HD3000, Fusion3HDTV, PVR-500).   But, I can get smooth playback
without XvMC running:  libmpeg2=80%user / 10% idle,  Standard
Decoder=60%user / 30% idle, XvMC=25%user / 60% idle.

However, I don't use XvMC very much, because every time an
OnScreenDisplay comes up, the audio stutters until a second or two
after the OSD goes off.   So, every time I skip a commercial, it takes
a while to smooth out.  Other than that, the video decoding works very
well.


Thanks for your help, Todd.  What version of mythtv are you using?  I would 
assume that it's some sort of subversion pull, since the DVB HD support in 
0.18.1 doesn't have the channel scan wizard...

As for the OP's X11 BadAlloc error,  this is a longstanding issue in
the x86-64 NVidia driver.   NVidia has been told about it a long time
ago, but it has remained unresolved for several driver releases (ain't
those closed source binary drivers great!). The workaround is to
repeatedly try to start an XvMC decoder, after 20+ failures, it will
eventually succeed.  Then, XvMC will work until you restart X11.I
use an XvMC capable mplayer app to keep trying XvMC until it succeeds.



I should probably look into OSD options, to get rid of the XvMC
problems..  I would gladly take a less attractive OSD in exchange for
smooth playback while leaving lots of CPU available for commercial
flagging or other Linux tasks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis

MythTV svn 7337;


Okay, sorry about that...


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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth and a DEC2000

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis
I was able to get the channel information into my database by using the 
0_18_fixes branch from subversion.  Take a look at 
http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ for information.  It will let you scan the 
capture card and get the information over the air.  Much easier than a 
series of SQL and/or perl scripts, IMHO.




Thanks for the suggestion anyway :)
Im going to try and put the data I have in my channels.conf into the 
database

manually when I get a chance this week. As I understand it dvb_channel and
dvb_pid are now depreciated, so I need data in channel and dtv_multiplex.
Anyone mind posting a mysqldump so I can have a reference to work from?

On Tuesday 15 November 2005 11:13, Andrew Wilson wrote:
 Jeez, I didn't realise I've been playing with myth for that long.

 Sorry, please disregard my advice :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis



I have gotten XvMC working on my Athlon 64 with an nVidia 6600LE.
However, it wasn't easy, basically, I do a brute force hack to beat it
into submission whenever I start up my X Session.

First, when compiling Myth, force it to compile against libXVMCNVIDIA,
I've had nothing but trouble with libXVMCW.  This requires modifying the
if statement around line 1699 of configure (talking v0.18.1 here).
You might need to do ln
-s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1 /usr/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so for this
to work properly.

Recompile MythTV, go into TV Options and select the option to use XVMC.
Playback a video and prepare to be disappointed (at least I was).

Why is this?  Because it couldn't open up the video properly.
Apparently it gets some access denied issue (I'm at work so I can't get
the exact output right now).  Here's what I did to fix it.

Create a two frame mpeg movie using mencoder.  It's important that it
have more than one frame.  Two seems to work quite well.  Then, I made
sure that my version of mplayer had xvmc support with it.  I had to
recompile it for that (using Ubuntu Breezy).  Then, I had my startup
script for mythfrontend execute the following script:

#!/bin/sh
# bang away on XVMC until it works
ROUNDS=0
for x in $(seq 1 100); do
LINE=$(~/bin/mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc ~/bin/fix.mpg -ao 
none 21 | grep End of file)

if [ x$LINE == xExiting... (End of file) ]; then
echo Took ${ROUNDS} tries to succeed
exit
fi
ROUNDS=$x
done
echo Unable to initialize xvmc


I wonder why I didn't think of that...


Where fix.mpg is the name my little two frame mpeg file.  This
essentially tries to run Mplayer 100 times on the little file.  The
first time it actually succeeds and plays it, it stops.  The reason is
because I notice that once I actually had XVMC working, it would just
keep working for that session.  Thus, by beating XVMC into submission
when I first start, I'm good for XvMC on MythTV.  Usually it takes about
3 or 4 tries.  Once it took 15, but that's the most.  This script
automates all that, and makes it transparent.


If I have a DVD and want to extract the first couple of frames to generate a 
fix.mpg, what is a simple mencoder command line to do that?  That would make 
life a lot easier than trudging through the mplayer man page...


Thanks very much.  That's the most informative answer I've gotten all over 
the internet.



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Re: [mythtv-users] nVidia and XvMC

2005-11-15 Thread William Lewis



I have gotten XvMC working on my Athlon 64 with an nVidia 6600LE.
However, it wasn't easy, basically, I do a brute force hack to beat it
into submission whenever I start up my X Session.

First, when compiling Myth, force it to compile against libXVMCNVIDIA,
I've had nothing but trouble with libXVMCW.  This requires modifying the
if statement around line 1699 of configure (talking v0.18.1 here).
You might need to do ln
-s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1 /usr/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so for this
to work properly.

Recompile MythTV, go into TV Options and select the option to use XVMC.
Playback a video and prepare to be disappointed (at least I was).

Why is this?  Because it couldn't open up the video properly.
Apparently it gets some access denied issue (I'm at work so I can't get
the exact output right now).  Here's what I did to fix it.

Create a two frame mpeg movie using mencoder.  It's important that it
have more than one frame.  Two seems to work quite well.  Then, I made
sure that my version of mplayer had xvmc support with it.  I had to
recompile it for that (using Ubuntu Breezy).  Then, I had my startup
script for mythfrontend execute the following script:

#!/bin/sh
# bang away on XVMC until it works
ROUNDS=0
for x in $(seq 1 100); do
LINE=$(~/bin/mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc ~/bin/fix.mpg -ao 
none 21 | grep End of file)

if [ x$LINE == xExiting... (End of file) ]; then
echo Took ${ROUNDS} tries to succeed
exit
fi
ROUNDS=$x
done
echo Unable to initialize xvmc

Where fix.mpg is the name my little two frame mpeg file.  This
essentially tries to run Mplayer 100 times on the little file.  The
first time it actually succeeds and plays it, it stops.  The reason is
because I notice that once I actually had XVMC working, it would just
keep working for that session.  Thus, by beating XVMC into submission
when I first start, I'm good for XvMC on MythTV.  Usually it takes about
3 or 4 tries.  Once it took 15, but that's the most.  This script
automates all that, and makes it transparent.

That being said, XVMC is not a be all end all here.  It still seems far
from perfect.  Occassionally I see a frame that looks out of place, I've
been told that this is a sign that XVMC isn't working 100% properly on
my system [1].  But XVMC is working.  I now have a grayscale display
that gets really choppy when the UI is up, but requires basically 0
overhead on my XOrg server instance.

This is good enough for me to watch and pause live 720p programs with no
difficulty.  Overall CPU load will hover around 20% there with
ocassional I/O related hiccups.  However, I still have some problems
with 1080i programs stuttering, probably I/O related issues.  I think
there is something funky with my motherboard and linux support (I get
the nasty digital static on my pcHDTV card too, but HDTV from the cable
box works fine).  So, if anyone knows ways to make those better, I'd
love to hear them.  Otherwise I'm gonna have to buy a new motherboard,
which is a shame because this one has gazillions of bells and
whistles(the pcHDTV records just fine on my Athlon 700, that just can't
play it back).

FWIW, here's the specs on the system I'm working with:
AMD 3200+ (clocked at 2400), 1GB generic ram, MSI k8n-neo4 platinum,
400GB LVM DMA 100/133 drives (2 x 200, hdparm -tT gives a read rate of
about 50MB/s on the drive), WinTV PVR-250, XFX GeForce 6600LE 256MB,
firewire to DCT6200 comcast box, pcHDTV 3000 (which gets staticy if
there is any other substantial disk I/O at the same time, don't blame
the OC either, it barfs at 2GHz too).

--Patrick

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV





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Well, I just got home, recompiled mplayer (with xvmc support this time 
(Oops)), and everything worked like a charm.  Great picture, no breaks, 18% 
CPU usage while watching recorded video.  What a difference.  Thanks for all 
your help.



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