Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Steve Adeff
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 09:44, Chris Picton wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
> > Piers Kittel wrote:
> >> Just did a bit of channel hopping last night and just now checked out
> >> "Recorded Programs" on MythWeb and found that the backend recorded
> >> every channel hop I made, something like 30 enteries in the "Recorded
> >> programs" about 1 or 2 minutes each - depends on how long I watched
> >> the channel hop - took me a while to delete them all.  Why would the
> >> backend record all this and how do I stop this?
> >
> > Because of all the people who requested the recording of LiveTV (i.e.
> > "I was watching LiveTV for 45 minutes and decided the show was worth
> > keeping, so I hit 'r', but it didn't save the first 45 minutes of the
> > show.  This sucks!!!").
> >
> > Search the lists for this issue being discussed ad nauseum--and it
> > won't change (and you can't stop it, short of re-writing a significant
> > portion of Myth in your own personal repository).
>
> This is in my mind a major step backwards in terms of usability.  I
> often browse Live TV to either check the time, or check the upcoming
> schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to delete all
> the mini recordings.
>
> How about an option to say 'Automatically delete live recording buffers
> when changing channels' or something like that.
>
> Chris
>


God man, your running SVN, if your  running SVN you should be reading the dev 
list and you should be reading the back log of the dev list.

There are some huge, major changes going on with LiveTV in SVN. Isaac and 
company are reworking how live tv works, adding new features, abilities, etc. 
One of these is the ability to easily watch live tv, record from live tv, 
etc.

Try this link out, you'll learn a lot about myth!
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/

-- 
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Greg Estabrooks
> >You don't have to. Myth will auto expire them after I think a configurable 
> >period of time( a day? )
> >
> Can you auto expire them after a second?

 I don't think so. Can't remember the minimum off hand, either a minute
or more likely a day.

> My machine is running short on space.  I am always fighting to keep 
> enough space free for the next few scheduled recordings.
> I have never turned on auto-expire, though as my recorded shows are 

 I don't think Auto expire is optional anymore though I could be incorrect
about that.

> hardly ever rebroadcast, so I don't want them deleted.  Can you set myth 
> to only autoexpire a certain subset of your recordings?

 Honestly I've never looked to go that. I always have plenty of space.


> Will it auto-expire while recording (Ie, if there is only 500Mb free and 
> dropping fast, start autoexpiring)?

 Yes it will.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Piers Kittel

Aha.

Fair enough.

Thanks very much for your comment!  Clears up a lot of things.  Makes a 
lot of sense.  Was away for the last 4 months so this being included 
confused me somewhat :)


Cheers - Piers

Michael T. Dean wrote:

Piers Kittel wrote:

Just did a bit of channel hopping last night and just now checked out 
"Recorded Programs" on MythWeb and found that the backend recorded 
every channel hop I made, something like 30 enteries in the "Recorded 
programs" about 1 or 2 minutes each - depends on how long I watched 
the channel hop - took me a while to delete them all.  Why would the 
backend record all this and how do I stop this?



Because of all the people who requested the recording of LiveTV (i.e. "I 
was watching LiveTV for 45 minutes and decided the show was worth 
keeping, so I hit 'r', but it didn't save the first 45 minutes of the 
show.  This sucks!!!").


Search the lists for this issue being discussed ad nauseum--and it won't 
change (and you can't stop it, short of re-writing a significant portion 
of Myth in your own personal repository).  You probably want to set Myth 
so that the LiveTV recording group is not shown in Watch Recordings 
(should be set by default).  On MythWeb--at least for now--you'll see 
them.  Chris is busy working through a major rewrite of MythWeb, so when 
he finishes, he may add support for hiding the LiveTV group (this is not 
a promise, only a guess of when it may happen if it happens).


Also, note that from the frontend, you can create a playlist that 
contains all your LiveTV recordings and delete them all at once.  Or, if 
you're patient, they will autoexpire.


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Kevin Kuphal

Chris Picton wrote:


Greg Estabrooks wrote:

schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to delete 
all the mini recordings.
  



You don't have to. Myth will auto expire them after I think a 
configurable period of time( a day? )



Can you auto expire them after a second?

My machine is running short on space.  I am always fighting to keep 
enough space free for the next few scheduled recordings.
I have never turned on auto-expire, though as my recorded shows are 
hardly ever rebroadcast, so I don't want them deleted.  Can you set 
myth to only autoexpire a certain subset of your recordings?


Of course.  Each recording schedule has an autoexpire/don't autoexpire 
setting that is set at record time and can be changed post-recording as 
needed.


. Plus if at anytime more space is required for a regular recording 
myth will expire livetv recordings first.
Will it auto-expire while recording (Ie, if there is only 500Mb free 
and dropping fast, start autoexpiring)?


Yes.  As long as your auto-expire check frequency is high enough.  I 
have mine set to a few minutes so that it will catch when I do things 
like copy a large DVD rip to the partition, etc.


Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Brad DerManouelian

Search the forums. Are we really talking about this again?

On Dec 28, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Chris Picton wrote:


Greg Estabrooks wrote:

schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to  
delete all the mini recordings.




You don't have to. Myth will auto expire them after I think a  
configurable period of time( a day? )



Can you auto expire them after a second?

My machine is running short on space.  I am always fighting to keep  
enough space free for the next few scheduled recordings.
I have never turned on auto-expire, though as my recorded shows are  
hardly ever rebroadcast, so I don't want them deleted.  Can you set  
myth to only autoexpire a certain subset of your recordings?



. Plus if at anytime more space is required for a regular  
recording myth will expire livetv recordings first.
Will it auto-expire while recording (Ie, if there is only 500Mb  
free and dropping fast, start autoexpiring)?



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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Chris Picton

Greg Estabrooks wrote:

schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to delete all 
the mini recordings.
   



You don't have to. Myth will auto expire them after I think a configurable 
period of time( a day? )



Can you auto expire them after a second?

My machine is running short on space.  I am always fighting to keep 
enough space free for the next few scheduled recordings.
I have never turned on auto-expire, though as my recorded shows are 
hardly ever rebroadcast, so I don't want them deleted.  Can you set myth 
to only autoexpire a certain subset of your recordings?



. Plus if at anytime more space is required for a 
regular recording myth will expire livetv recordings first. 

Will it auto-expire while recording (Ie, if there is only 500Mb free and 
dropping fast, start autoexpiring)?



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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Greg Estabrooks
> schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to delete all 
> the mini recordings.

 You don't have to. Myth will auto expire them after I think a configurable 
period of time( a day? ). Plus if at anytime more space is required for a 
regular recording myth will expire livetv recordings first. You can also
configure mythfrontend to not show the livetv recordings in the 
watch recordings screen.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Chris Picton

Michael T. Dean wrote:


Piers Kittel wrote:

Just did a bit of channel hopping last night and just now checked out 
"Recorded Programs" on MythWeb and found that the backend recorded 
every channel hop I made, something like 30 enteries in the "Recorded 
programs" about 1 or 2 minutes each - depends on how long I watched 
the channel hop - took me a while to delete them all.  Why would the 
backend record all this and how do I stop this?



Because of all the people who requested the recording of LiveTV (i.e. 
"I was watching LiveTV for 45 minutes and decided the show was worth 
keeping, so I hit 'r', but it didn't save the first 45 minutes of the 
show.  This sucks!!!").


Search the lists for this issue being discussed ad nauseum--and it 
won't change (and you can't stop it, short of re-writing a significant 
portion of Myth in your own personal repository).


This is in my mind a major step backwards in terms of usability.  I 
often browse Live TV to either check the time, or check the upcoming 
schedule, etc.  It would be an absolute ballache to have to delete all 
the mini recordings.


How about an option to say 'Automatically delete live recording buffers 
when changing channels' or something like that.


Chris


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Re: [mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Michael T. Dean

Piers Kittel wrote:

Just did a bit of channel hopping last night and just now checked out 
"Recorded Programs" on MythWeb and found that the backend recorded 
every channel hop I made, something like 30 enteries in the "Recorded 
programs" about 1 or 2 minutes each - depends on how long I watched 
the channel hop - took me a while to delete them all.  Why would the 
backend record all this and how do I stop this?


Because of all the people who requested the recording of LiveTV (i.e. "I 
was watching LiveTV for 45 minutes and decided the show was worth 
keeping, so I hit 'r', but it didn't save the first 45 minutes of the 
show.  This sucks!!!").


Search the lists for this issue being discussed ad nauseum--and it won't 
change (and you can't stop it, short of re-writing a significant portion 
of Myth in your own personal repository).  You probably want to set Myth 
so that the LiveTV recording group is not shown in Watch Recordings 
(should be set by default).  On MythWeb--at least for now--you'll see 
them.  Chris is busy working through a major rewrite of MythWeb, so when 
he finishes, he may add support for hiding the LiveTV group (this is not 
a promise, only a guess of when it may happen if it happens).


Also, note that from the frontend, you can create a playlist that 
contains all your LiveTV recordings and delete them all at once.  Or, if 
you're patient, they will autoexpire.


Mike
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[mythtv-users] Eh - unrequested recording of live TV?!

2005-12-28 Thread Piers Kittel

Hello all,

Just did a bit of channel hopping last night and just now checked out 
"Recorded Programs" on MythWeb and found that the backend recorded every 
channel hop I made, something like 30 enteries in the "Recorded 
programs" about 1 or 2 minutes each - depends on how long I watched the 
channel hop - took me a while to delete them all.  Why would the backend 
record all this and how do I stop this?


Many thanks in advance!

Regards - Piers
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