Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-27 Thread Pascal Favre

I tried with loading the vnc module in xorg.conf and receive the message
(II) IVTVDEV_TST(0)VNC disabled.

Afterwards I tried using   Option VNC on in the sections, without any 
positive result.
What is wrong ?

Pascal
-
(II) LoadModule: vnc
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/vnc.so
(II) Module vnc: vendor=xf4vnc Project, see http://xf4vnc.sf.net (4.3.0.999)
   compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.1.0
   Module class: X.Org Server Extension
   ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension VNC

..
..

(==) IVTVDEV_TST(0)Backing store disabled
Init Video
(II) IVTVDEV_TST(0)Enabling Xv support for PVR350
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension LBX
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) IVTVDEV_TST(0)VNC disabled
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) fake Keyboard driver: Core Keyboard
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) fake Mouse driver: Core Pointer

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From: Robert Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?


On 25/08/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
 I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.

Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or
does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps
that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually
does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer
sitting at my fingertips.


What VNC does depends on how you have it setup.

If you are running VNCServer, every VNC client that logs in will get a
new X session.

If you are using X11VNC (Or the VNC module in XFree86-Config-4), the
VNC client gets a copy of the current display (In this case, the
display on the TV). VNC then sends all keypresses and mouse movements
to that display, and mirrors the result in a window on your monitor.

Therefore, if you have X11VNC (Or the VNC Module) set up, you can
remotely control the TV.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-26 Thread Peter Loron
Hi. Interesting tip! Do you know if this is in FC3 or just in FC4?  
Thanks.


-Pete

On Aug 25, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Phill Edwards wrote:


Actually, for Fedora Core (and likely other distros with recent VNC
versions)  you don't even need x11vnc to attach to the current
screen/session.  Just add:

Load vnc

to your xorg.conf file Modules section and

Option passwordFile /home/david/.vnc/passwd

to your Screen section (change the passwd file location as  
necessary).
Create the password file using vncpasswd.  VNC passwords are not  
tied to
user accounts, so you can use any VNC passwd no matter the user  
account

logged in.

Then disable the vncserver process from init.d -- you won't need it
anymore.  This way you use the stock VNC distro.  It's very slick,  
and

performance and resource utilization is much better since you're not
starting a whole new X session for VNC like you do with vncserver.



Hey - thanks for that. I've been using x11vnc - I didn't know it was
built into the distro already. I've now got rid of x11vnc and I've
noticed that this is quicker on the client end.

Thanks,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-26 Thread Phill Edwards
 Hi. Interesting tip! Do you know if this is in FC3 or just in FC4?
 Thanks.

Works for me and I'm FC3.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-26 Thread David Whyte
On 8/26/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi. Interesting tip! Do you know if this is in FC3 or just in FC4?
  Thanks.
 
 Works for me and I'm FC3.
 

Works for me and I am FC2!  I just added the Load vnc line to
Xorg.conf and it pretty much worked.  And it is GREAT :P

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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-26 Thread Victor
I just joined the list so I'm not sure if this has already been 
mentioned or not, but for my frontends I control them via synergy( 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergy2 ). It just allows you scroll 
your mouse over in either direction and it becomes part of the next 
screen.  Allow it doesn't forward video, so you'd have to have it 
connected to a tv already.


Vic

Chad wrote:


On 8/25/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.

Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or
does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps
that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually
does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer
sitting at my fingertips.

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To connect to the currently running X session, I use x11vnc

Very easy to use, very cool.

Cool
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-26 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Friday 26 August 2005 3:19, David Whyte wrote:
 On 8/26/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi. Interesting tip! Do you know if this is in FC3 or just in FC4?
   Thanks.
  
  Works for me and I'm FC3.
  
 
 Works for me and I am FC2!  I just added the Load vnc line to
 Xorg.conf and it pretty much worked.  And it is GREAT :P

It's a module that's part of X.org.  Any distro with a relatively recent 
version of X.org should have the capability; XFree86-based distros 
won't have it.

-JAC
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[mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Mickey Chandler
I had a brainstorm the other day, and didn't notice any mention of it 
in the archives.


Has anyone thought of controlling a tv over the network, like through Mythweb?

My wife and I have 3 kids and we both work at home.  The Myth box is 
in our bedroom.  The kids are constantly interrupting us asking us to 
let them watch some show or another.  While we don't mind them 
watching Dora the Explorer or Tom  Jerry, it's a bit of a pain 
getting up and going to the bedroom to start the show. (They aren't 
allowed access to the keyboard or the [currently non-working] remote 
control after almost breaking them about a month ago.)  So I got to 
wondering if there was some way for us to start the show from our 
desks, or if we're kind of stuck getting up and running to the 
bedroom every couple of hours or so.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Andrew Ziobro
I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop. 

On 8/25/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a brainstorm the other day, and didn't notice any mention of it
 in the archives.
 
 Has anyone thought of controlling a tv over the network, like through Mythweb?
 
 My wife and I have 3 kids and we both work at home.  The Myth box is
 in our bedroom.  The kids are constantly interrupting us asking us to
 let them watch some show or another.  While we don't mind them
 watching Dora the Explorer or Tom  Jerry, it's a bit of a pain
 getting up and going to the bedroom to start the show. (They aren't
 allowed access to the keyboard or the [currently non-working] remote
 control after almost breaking them about a month ago.)  So I got to
 wondering if there was some way for us to start the show from our
 desks, or if we're kind of stuck getting up and running to the
 bedroom every couple of hours or so.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 I had a brainstorm the other day, and didn't notice any mention of it
 in the archives.
 
 Has anyone thought of controlling a tv over the network, like through Mythweb?
 
 My wife and I have 3 kids and we both work at home.  The Myth box is
 in our bedroom.  The kids are constantly interrupting us asking us to
 let them watch some show or another.  While we don't mind them
 watching Dora the Explorer or Tom  Jerry, it's a bit of a pain
 getting up and going to the bedroom to start the show. (They aren't
 allowed access to the keyboard or the [currently non-working] remote
 control after almost breaking them about a month ago.)  So I got to
 wondering if there was some way for us to start the show from our
 desks, or if we're kind of stuck getting up and running to the
 bedroom every couple of hours or so.

Could take a look at MythWiFi.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Mickey Chandler

At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.

Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or 
does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps 
that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually 
does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer 
sitting at my fingertips.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Mickey Chandler

At 09:27 PM 8/25/2005, Phill Edwards wrote:
Could take a look at MythWiFi.

I think that looks perfect for what I'm wanting.  I don't think I 
ever would have gotten to it without someone pointing it out.


Thanks!

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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Chad
On 8/25/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
  I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.
 
 Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or
 does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps
 that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually
 does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer
 sitting at my fingertips.
 
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To connect to the currently running X session, I use x11vnc

Very easy to use, very cool.

Cool
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread David
Actually, for Fedora Core (and likely other distros with recent VNC 
versions)  you don't even need x11vnc to attach to the current 
screen/session.  Just add:


Load vnc

to your xorg.conf file Modules section and

Option passwordFile /home/david/.vnc/passwd

to your Screen section (change the passwd file location as necessary).  
Create the password file using vncpasswd.  VNC passwords are not tied to 
user accounts, so you can use any VNC passwd no matter the user account 
logged in.


Then disable the vncserver process from init.d -- you won't need it 
anymore.  This way you use the stock VNC distro.  It's very slick, and 
performance and resource utilization is much better since you're not 
starting a whole new X session for VNC like you do with vncserver.


David

Chad wrote:


On 8/25/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.

Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or
does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps
that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually
does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer
sitting at my fingertips.

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To connect to the currently running X session, I use x11vnc

Very easy to use, very cool.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Johnston
On 25/08/05, Mickey Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 09:25 PM 8/25/2005, Andrew Ziobro wrote:
  I use VNC to connect to the machine from my laptop.
 
 Right.  I have VNC as well, but will that send output to the TV or
 does it ultimately act as an independent XWindows session.  Perhaps
 that's my answer and I'm just unclear on what VNC actually
 does.  Frankly, I'd love to be wrong this once and have the answer
 sitting at my fingertips.

What VNC does depends on how you have it setup.

If you are running VNCServer, every VNC client that logs in will get a
new X session.

If you are using X11VNC (Or the VNC module in XFree86-Config-4), the
VNC client gets a copy of the current display (In this case, the
display on the TV). VNC then sends all keypresses and mouse movements
to that display, and mirrors the result in a window on your monitor.

Therefore, if you have X11VNC (Or the VNC Module) set up, you can
remotely control the TV.
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Network control?

2005-08-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 Actually, for Fedora Core (and likely other distros with recent VNC
 versions)  you don't even need x11vnc to attach to the current
 screen/session.  Just add:
 
 Load vnc
 
 to your xorg.conf file Modules section and
 
 Option passwordFile /home/david/.vnc/passwd
 
 to your Screen section (change the passwd file location as necessary).
 Create the password file using vncpasswd.  VNC passwords are not tied to
 user accounts, so you can use any VNC passwd no matter the user account
 logged in.
 
 Then disable the vncserver process from init.d -- you won't need it
 anymore.  This way you use the stock VNC distro.  It's very slick, and
 performance and resource utilization is much better since you're not
 starting a whole new X session for VNC like you do with vncserver.

Hey - thanks for that. I've been using x11vnc - I didn't know it was
built into the distro already. I've now got rid of x11vnc and I've
noticed that this is quicker on the client end.

Thanks,
Phill
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