Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Yeah, I imagine everyone has their own needs/preferences. Which is why I'm sure most of this is easily parameterized :) What would be REALLY COOL would be to have an OSD equivalent of what myxer is to themes. You could select the fields you wanted, the graphics/colors you liked, fonts and sizes, etc. from lists on a web page and then have a preview drawn for you real-time. When you get it the way you like it you could press a button and have it dump out the xml you need to generate it. If you haven't tried myxer and it's configuration utils you should take a look... Dave Hofstra did a nice job with it and Stef Coene's php configurator is also very cool. The relevant gossamer thread is here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/139517?do=post_view_threaded Of course this is beyond my php skills (currently none) and knowledge of OSD theme construction (also currently none), but it's an idea at least :) --Jack --- Bill Omer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Perveiler wrote: > >I'd be happier with seeing when the original record date was. Just last > night > >my wife asked me "is this the King of Queens for this week or last week?" > If > >both were reruns it'd be more clear to me to see the record date than the > >original air date (which might be years ago). > > Overheard one day while my wife was watching tv: > > "I wonder how old this episode is" > 'hits info button' > "First aired in 1989? This is an ld episode of Rosanne". > > > > Ever since then its been a feature that we both used allot. It's an > easy way to find out if you're watching a new episode or a "new to you" > episode. > > -Bill > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Jack Perveiler wrote: I'd be happier with seeing when the original record date was. Just last night my wife asked me "is this the King of Queens for this week or last week?" If both were reruns it'd be more clear to me to see the record date than the original air date (which might be years ago). Overheard one day while my wife was watching tv: "I wonder how old this episode is" 'hits info button' "First aired in 1989? This is an ld episode of Rosanne". Ever since then its been a feature that we both used allot. It's an easy way to find out if you're watching a new episode or a "new to you" episode. -Bill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Basically I ripped through other OSD's first and then grep'd everything that looked like it might be XML related in the myth source ... made a lit and just played pretty much. There might be an easier way but this way was fun at least :-) ... the art part ... well I've always been interested in playing with graphics tools I guess. I was a contributing author to the GIMP for Linux Bible from IDG some years back now and I was interested ever since. ttys, LonnyOn 9/29/05, Jack Perveiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- SpEnT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hrmmm ... do you mean while watching a recorded program, bring up the OSD> and have this information shown while you view it? I know in the list of > recorded programs, it lists the date it was recorded so that might be a> little redundant unless of course someone asks you while you are watching it> when it was recorded you'd have to stop watching it and look in the > list of recorded programs to see a date. The first aired I'm not sure how to> do. I'll take a look and see what other data can be displayed, they're all> predefined vairables from what I can tell, you just format where they are > and how they display in the OSD.>> I'll keep playing around with it and see what I can put in. I know I had> some issues with truncating long program descriptions and start/stop times.> They'd either inconveniently cut something off or wrap in an ugly manner. > This doesn't meant I couldn't create another window in the screen somewhere> that could display other info though (I don't think). I'm still pretty new> to working with the OSD stuff but I'm willing to try anything :-) I'll play > around and see what I can come up with or what other data I can display> without making the screen too crowded.>> --> Lonny>I'd be happier with seeing when the original record date was. Just last night my wife asked me "is this the King of Queens for this week or last week?" Ifboth were reruns it'd be more clear to me to see the record date than theoriginal air date (which might be years ago). Anyways, I had to go back to the list of recordings to see when it was recordedand thought "gee, I wonder why the OSD (which said the TIME it was recorded)didn't include the date as well...". Good timing :) On another note, where did you get all the info you needed to build your OSD?>From the web somewhere? Somewhere in the mythtv docs? Or just by playingaround with other, existing OSDs? I'd be interested to know what the predefined variables are, are things different for widescreen modes, etc.Thanks,--Jack__Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
John, Hey thanks!! :-) ... incidentally all my graphics are done from scratch with the GIMP ... although I seem to have misplaced my layered and GIMP native format images :/On 9/29/05, John Patrick Hoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lonny,Just FYI I am using it on my FE/BE which is connected to a Sharp 712NLCD monitor running 1280x1024 ... When I get a couple of minutes Iwill muck around with it in gimp and see if I can't clean it up a bit as well- -jh ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
--- SpEnT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hrmmm ... do you mean while watching a recorded program, bring up the OSD > and have this information shown while you view it? I know in the list of > recorded programs, it lists the date it was recorded so that might be a > little redundant unless of course someone asks you while you are watching it > when it was recorded you'd have to stop watching it and look in the > list of recorded programs to see a date. The first aired I'm not sure how to > do. I'll take a look and see what other data can be displayed, they're all > predefined vairables from what I can tell, you just format where they are > and how they display in the OSD. > > I'll keep playing around with it and see what I can put in. I know I had > some issues with truncating long program descriptions and start/stop times. > They'd either inconveniently cut something off or wrap in an ugly manner. > This doesn't meant I couldn't create another window in the screen somewhere > that could display other info though (I don't think). I'm still pretty new > to working with the OSD stuff but I'm willing to try anything :-) I'll play > around and see what I can come up with or what other data I can display > without making the screen too crowded. > > -- > Lonny > I'd be happier with seeing when the original record date was. Just last night my wife asked me "is this the King of Queens for this week or last week?" If both were reruns it'd be more clear to me to see the record date than the original air date (which might be years ago). Anyways, I had to go back to the list of recordings to see when it was recorded and thought "gee, I wonder why the OSD (which said the TIME it was recorded) didn't include the date as well...". Good timing :) On another note, where did you get all the info you needed to build your OSD? >From the web somewhere? Somewhere in the mythtv docs? Or just by playing around with other, existing OSDs? I'd be interested to know what the predefined variables are, are things different for widescreen modes, etc. Thanks, --Jack __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Hrmmm ... do you mean while watching a recorded program, bring up the OSD and have this information shown while you view it? I know in the list of recorded programs, it lists the date it was recorded so that might be a little redundant unless of course someone asks you while you are watching it when it was recorded you'd have to stop watching it and look in the list of recorded programs to see a date. The first aired I'm not sure how to do. I'll take a look and see what other data can be displayed, they're all predefined vairables from what I can tell, you just format where they are and how they display in the OSD. I'll keep playing around with it and see what I can put in. I know I had some issues with truncating long program descriptions and start/stop times. They'd either inconveniently cut something off or wrap in an ugly manner. This doesn't meant I couldn't create another window in the screen somewhere that could display other info though (I don't think). I'm still pretty new to working with the OSD stuff but I'm willing to try anything :-) I'll play around and see what I can come up with or what other data I can display without making the screen too crowded. -- Lonny On 9/29/05, Bill Omer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This looks awesome! I'm going to try and install it soon. Hugeimprovement from the out-of-the-box osd.But I have a question/suggestion.Is there anyway to have the osd provide some information like date recorded and the date it was first aired?I'm converting our pvr from beyondtv to myth, and thats one of thethings my wife has asked me about more than once. It was some featurethat btv had that she has grown to love and it would be nice to get that back.-B ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
SpEnT wrote: I'd started working on an OSD a while back and vamped it a bit (and have been using it for some time now). If anyone is interested, here are some older screen shots: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/old/ If you'd like to check it out you can grab it here: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/bangosd_Sep2005.tar.gz Comments are welcome or if things are missing (which I'm sure there are), my email is included in the README -- Lonny Selinger LPIC-1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users This looks awesome! I'm going to try and install it soon. Huge improvement from the out-of-the-box osd. But I have a question/suggestion. Is there anyway to have the osd provide some information like date recorded and the date it was first aired? I'm converting our pvr from beyondtv to myth, and thats one of the things my wife has asked me about more than once. It was some feature that btv had that she has grown to love and it would be nice to get that back. -B ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 29, 2005, at 3:48 PM, SpEnT wrote: Exactly the kind of critisism I was looking for ... constructive. I'll check samples on different screens and a couple of monitors. On my TV I don't really notice the pixelates curves but it's just an old 35" Sharp and there are way better displays out there. I'll poke around more with resolutions in the next while as well ... maybe that affects it *shrug* Thanks!! (and you're very welcome) Lonny On 9/29/05, John Patrick Hoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lonny, The only real criticism I have about the OSD is that the edges are a bit rough. The curves on the OSD Frame are a bit pixelated... just needs to be smoothed out :) Otherwise, I happen to love the theme! Thank you for it! - -John Lonny, Just FYI I am using it on my FE/BE which is connected to a Sharp 712N LCD monitor running 1280x1024 ... When I get a couple of minutes I will muck around with it in gimp and see if I can't clean it up a bit as well - -jh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDPFEiBkcRm7OeVbIRAmE+AJ9yr8kSx3VoVLLX0Nc1R87L2DujcACgg6Vi no88CoCCcfW6zBAHjbLHjHk= =j2fH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 29, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Dan Wilga wrote: At 9:45 AM -0600 9/29/05, SpEnT wrote: Hi Steve, I've been called far worse, I guess :-) and go into your setup where you select your OSD theme. That's what I must be missing. I know where the main appearance theme is selected, but I didn't see the OSD one. I'll have to look again. Thanks again for the upload. OSD theme selection is on the last page of the playback setup menu in mythfrontend > setup Hope that helps ... and good luck ! - -John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDPFCZBkcRm7OeVbIRAs6wAJ9sEPXu89Ud9BUmoMucVzQo2GclXgCfRKb3 MeSmzZf6LctJC9OGMVl6ox8= =iTub -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
At 9:45 AM -0600 9/29/05, SpEnT wrote: Hi Steve, I've been called far worse, I guess :-) and go into your setup where you select your OSD theme. That's what I must be missing. I know where the main appearance theme is selected, but I didn't see the OSD one. I'll have to look again. Thanks again for the upload. -- Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.edu Mount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027 South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?" ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Exactly the kind of critisism I was looking for ... constructive. I'll check samples on different screens and a couple of monitors. On my TV I don't really notice the pixelates curves but it's just an old 35" Sharp and there are way better displays out there. I'll poke around more with resolutions in the next while as well ... maybe that affects it *shrug* Thanks!! (and you're very welcome) LonnyOn 9/29/05, John Patrick Hoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1Lonny,The only real criticism I have about the OSD is that the edges are abit rough. The curves on the OSD Frame are a bit pixelated... justneeds to be smoothed out :) Otherwise, I happen to love the theme! Thank you for it!- -John-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)iD8DBQFDPBDoBkcRm7OeVbIRAthPAJ0VPv7RkOTob6FGMdhIH4IG43tAwgCgv5AX J/28UgqGMf83ojHIhaGoOx8==045M-END PGP SIGNATURE-___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lonny, The only real criticism I have about the OSD is that the edges are a bit rough. The curves on the OSD Frame are a bit pixelated... just needs to be smoothed out :) Otherwise, I happen to love the theme! Thank you for it! - -John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDPBDoBkcRm7OeVbIRAthPAJ0VPv7RkOTob6FGMdhIH4IG43tAwgCgv5AX J/28UgqGMf83ojHIhaGoOx8= =045M -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Sorry addressed to the wrong person ... that should be regarding Dan's comment :-)On 9/29/05, SpEnT <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Hi Steve, ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
Hi Steve, Basically all you should have to do is untar it into the themes directory: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ and go into your setup where you select your OSD theme. You should see a new option in the dropdown 'bangosd'. When I get home tonight I'll confirm the exact localtion of where you select your OSD theme. That should be it ... unfortuneately I can't remember what submenu the OSD theme is in ... deepending on what format you use for your navigation ... on mine I believe it's something like settings -> appearance -> general. Either way I'll update the README when I know for sure with detailed instructions on enabling the theme. -- Lonny On 9/29/05, Dan Wilga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I went to install it last night, and realized that there's more to itthan just plunking it into the themes directory. What else needs tohappen?After you finish telling me, you might put the same instructions into your README.--Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.eduMount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?"___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
I went to install it last night, and realized that there's more to it than just plunking it into the themes directory. What else needs to happen? After you finish telling me, you might put the same instructions into your README. -- Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.edu Mount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027 South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?" ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
I was talking about OSD's in mythtv-users on IRC and someone reffered me to you "new" theme. I quite like it actually. Thanks for posting it. On 9/28/05, SpEnT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: haha I used to do tattoo's and for some reason a lot of my artwork had eyes involved. I tried for a more of an "all seeing eye" kind of thing but I'm sure I could create something without an eye ;-) ... maybe I'll keep putzing around. --Lonny On 9/28/05, Dan Wilga < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like it a lot, except for the creepy eyeball between the channelnumber and the description. :-)--Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.eduMount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027 South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?"___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
haha I used to do tattoo's and for some reason a lot of my artwork had eyes involved. I tried for a more of an "all seeing eye" kind of thing but I'm sure I could create something without an eye ;-) ... maybe I'll keep putzing around. -- Lonny On 9/28/05, Dan Wilga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like it a lot, except for the creepy eyeball between the channelnumber and the description. :-)--Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.eduMount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?"___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
I like it a lot, except for the creepy eyeball between the channel number and the description. :-) -- Dan Wilga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Administrator http://www.mtholyoke.edu Mount Holyoke CollegeTel: 413-538-3027 South Hadley, MA 01075"Who left the cake out in the rain?" ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
If anyone has suggestions feel free to toss them out there. I'm going to start playing with fonts soon I think and maybe minor tweaking but I thought I'd check with others to see if there were things they just don't like. I'm guessing everyone has their personal favorites but I haven't seen many OSD's surface for a while so I vamped my own. -- LonnyOn 9/28/05, John Patrick Hoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:30 PM, SpEnT wrote:> I'd started working on an OSD a while back and vamped it a bit (and> have been using it for some time now). If anyone is interested, > here are some older screen shots:> http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/old/>> If you'd like to check it out you can grab it here:> http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/bangosd_Sep2005.tar.gzLonny,That is quite pretty. When I get back later this afternoon I will install and give it a spin... Thanks!- --John==[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://john.hoke.org/-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin)iD8DBQFDOtgwBkcRm7OeVbIRAtKBAJ4kS/HpTCHwFqJY5evXPD2F5NALdACbBFMAWB0J94C5cZgGHEGGfD1Veak==uQfz-END PGP SIGNATURE-___ mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:30 PM, SpEnT wrote: I'd started working on an OSD a while back and vamped it a bit (and have been using it for some time now). If anyone is interested, here are some older screen shots: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/old/ If you'd like to check it out you can grab it here: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/bangosd_Sep2005.tar.gz Lonny, That is quite pretty. When I get back later this afternoon I will install and give it a spin... Thanks! - --John == [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDOtgwBkcRm7OeVbIRAtKBAJ4kS/HpTCHwFqJY5evXPD2F5NALdACbBFMA WB0J94C5cZgGHEGGfD1Veak= =uQfz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
SpEnT wrote: I'd started working on an OSD a while back and vamped it a bit (and have been using it for some time now). If anyone is interested, here are some older screen shots: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/old/ If you'd like to check it out you can grab it here: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/bangosd_Sep2005.tar.gz Comments are welcome or if things are missing (which I'm sure there are), my email is included in the README Looks good. I'll have to check it out when I get home... Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Working on an OSD
I'd started working on an OSD a while back and vamped it a bit (and have been using it for some time now). If anyone is interested, here are some older screen shots: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/old/ If you'd like to check it out you can grab it here: http://www.bangtherockstogether.net/bangosd_Sep2005.tar.gz Comments are welcome or if things are missing (which I'm sure there are), my email is included in the README -- Lonny Selinger LPIC-1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
