Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works, but I have to change to 'full' mode manually each time I switch to the Myth input on the TV, because it thinks it's a 4:3 picture. (The TV allows you to set your default mode for a 4:3 picture, but only among a couple of options, neither of which is right.) Seems that I need to tell the TV that it's a widescreen picture. I gather that widescreen signalling in the picture should do that. Is it possible to configure the NVidia driver to output that? I think that the other DVB boxes that I have signal widescreen via one of the pins on the SCART connectors. This obviously isn't possible if you're using a straight Svideo cable as I am currently. I believe there may be other mechanisms in use, but I doubt that the graphics cards manufacturers really give this much consideration - hence Myth shows 4:3 output on a 16:9 display (and vice-versa) through use of black bars. I've just set my TV in 16:9 mode - this is fine unless I want to use the image viewer which seems to ignore the aspect ratio setting and assume you have a 4:3 display. Mplayer seems to do the same, but fortunately Xine does take account of the aspect ratio. -- Mark Smith - Surrey, UK http://www.chez-moi.org.uk/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
mplayer -fd -zoom -quiet -aspect 4:3 -vo xv %s does the trick for me in this situation Mark Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works, but I have to change to 'full' mode manually each time I switch to the Myth input on the TV, because it thinks it's a 4:3 picture. (The TV allows you to set your default mode for a 4:3 picture, but only among a couple of options, neither of which is right.) Seems that I need to tell the TV that it's a widescreen picture. I gather that widescreen signalling in the picture should do that. Is it possible to configure the NVidia driver to output that? I think that the other DVB boxes that I have signal widescreen via one of the pins on the SCART connectors. This obviously isn't possible if you're using a straight Svideo cable as I am currently. I believe there may be other mechanisms in use, but I doubt that the graphics cards manufacturers really give this much consideration - hence Myth shows 4:3 output on a 16:9 display (and vice-versa) through use of black bars. I've just set my TV in 16:9 mode - this is fine unless I want to use the image viewer which seems to ignore the aspect ratio setting and assume you have a 4:3 display. Mplayer seems to do the same, but fortunately Xine does take account of the aspect ratio. -- Mark Smith - Surrey, UK http://www.chez-moi.org.uk/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
oops, fat finger, that would be -fs not -fd Blair Preston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: mplayer -fd -zoom -quiet -aspect 4:3 -vo xv %s does the trick for me in this situation Mark Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works, but I have to change to 'full' mode manually each time I switch to the Myth input on the TV, because it thinks it's a 4:3 picture. (The TV allows you to set your default mode for a 4:3 picture, but only among a couple of options, neither of which is right.) Seems that I need to tell the TV that it's a widescreen picture. I gather that widescreen signalling in the picture should do that. Is it possible to configure the NVidia driver to output that? I think that the other DVB boxes that I have signal widescreen via one of the pins on the SCART connectors. This obviously isn't possible if you're using a straight Svideo cable as I am currently. I believe there may be other mechanisms in use, but I doubt that the graphics cards manufacturers really give this much consideration - hence Myth shows 4:3 output on a 16:9 display (and vice-versa) through use of black bars. I've just set my TV in 16:9 mode - this is fine unless I want to use the image viewer which seems to ignore the aspect ratio setting and assume you have a 4:3 display. Mplayer seems to do the same, but fortunately Xine does take account of the aspect ratio. -- Mark Smith - Surrey, UK http://www.chez-moi.org.uk/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:22:27AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Thanks; you're right. I trided that anyway and got it working on Saturday. Once I put it my TV size (DisplaySize 660 370), turned off aspect ratio override in Myth and put the TV in zoom mode, it works fine. (Without zoom on the TV, it thinks it's a 4:3 picture and everybody's thin; zoom stretches it horizontally to fill the screen.) This works, but I have to change to 'full' mode manually each time I switch to the Myth input on the TV, because it thinks it's a 4:3 picture. (The TV allows you to set your default mode for a 4:3 picture, but only among a couple of options, neither of which is right.) Seems that I need to tell the TV that it's a widescreen picture. I gather that widescreen signalling in the picture should do that. Is it possible to configure the NVidia driver to output that? I should just get around to connecting via VGA/RGBHV, which should make this moot. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of repeating a recent thread I'm still confused about widescreen TV out. I'm now connecting my Myth box (with GF4 440MX) to a new widescreen TV. Currently via composite but I'll change that later. [Snip] Is the correct way to handle this to use one of Myth's zoom/stretch modes to stretch the 16:9 source image to a 4:3 output image, then use a TV zoom mode to stretch it back? I think that should work. You might be able to do that, but it would be at the expense of losing vertical resolution. The best way to solve it is to add a DisplaySize line to your xorg.conf file to specify a display size with an aspect ration of 16:9. Something like: DisplaySize 400 225 Myth will then output 16:9 to fill the screen and 4:3 with vertical black bars either side. -- Mark Smith - Surrey, UK http://www.chez-moi.org.uk/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:51:11PM +0100, Mark Smith wrote: You might be able to do that, but it would be at the expense of losing vertical resolution. The best way to solve it is to add a DisplaySize line to your xorg.conf file to specify a display size with an aspect ration of 16:9. Something like: DisplaySize 400 225 Myth will then output 16:9 to fill the screen and 4:3 with vertical black bars either side. Thanks; you're right. I trided that anyway and got it working on Saturday. Once I put it my TV size (DisplaySize 660 370), turned off aspect ratio override in Myth and put the TV in zoom mode, it works fine. (Without zoom on the TV, it thinks it's a 4:3 picture and everybody's thin; zoom stretches it horizontally to fill the screen.) Only problem is my GUI fonts are now tiny (in mythfrontend, gdm etc). But that's been discussed here before and so I'll check the archives. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] widescreen TV out
At the risk of repeating a recent thread I'm still confused about widescreen TV out. I'm now connecting my Myth box (with GF4 440MX) to a new widescreen TV. Currently via composite but I'll change that later. My X resolution is set to 720x576. (Same as I used on my old 4:3 TV, actually). The TV has various zoom modes for widescreen. It doesn't seem to think that the PC output is 16:9 automatically though. (I'm not sure what it's looking for as a signal.) Is the correct way to handle this to use one of Myth's zoom/stretch modes to stretch the 16:9 source image to a 4:3 output image, then use a TV zoom mode to stretch it back? I think that should work. Our TV networks here also transmit 4:3 material with vertical black bars added to produce a 16:9 image. I think the same technique applies, with the resulting image having black bars. This is only temporary as I expect to connect the PC directly to the TV's RGBHV inputs pretty soon anyway, and run 1920x1080i or 720x576p or similar (or both at different times). thanks Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
