Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Friday 24 June 2005 06:58 am, Neil Bird wrote: > Around about 24/06/05 00:08, Isaac Richards typed ... > > > If a theme is not designed for 100dpi, it's broken. > >So what's the recommended DPI for wide-screen (16:9) TVs? Get a real widescreen tv, not a fake one? =) screen #0: dimensions:1280x720 pixels (325x183 millimeters) resolution:100x100 dots per inch However, for non-square pixels, you should be able to do Wx100 dpi, and it _should_ look mostly right, as long as you're using one of the widescreen themes. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/24/05, Neil Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Around about 24/06/05 00:08, Isaac Richards typed ... > > If a theme is not designed for 100dpi, it's broken. > >So what's the recommended DPI for wide-screen (16:9) TVs? 100x100dpi works fine for me at 1280x740. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
Around about 24/06/05 00:08, Isaac Richards typed ... If a theme is not designed for 100dpi, it's broken. So what's the recommended DPI for wide-screen (16:9) TVs? If I set my X config. to 100x100 DPI, then Myth thinks I've a 4:3 TV and have issues getting the playback aspect ration correct. I put a 'correct' DisplaySize into xorg.conf to ensure Myth realised I had 16:9, but that didn't do the themes any favours. I've now nadgered it to be 100x133, but I have a couple on places where I suspect this is stuffing vertical font positioning (as it's 133 not 100). I didn't actually notice that much difference when I did this, FWIW; I was expecting all the fonts to suddenly be vastly different sizes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rm -f .signature [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# exit ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Friday 24 June 2005 00:45, Korey Fort wrote: > Is there a howto on writing a theme anywhere? Not that I know, but take a look at myxer: http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/ It will give you the possilibility the easy choose the background / buttons / water marks. You can also choose the text style from a few previous defined syles. But creating your own style is easy if you edit the xml files. Stef ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 09:18:25AM -0400, Donavan Stanley wrote: >On 6/22/05, John Gruenenfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size >> options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, >> and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I >> don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. > >Yes it's the real solution. Themes are designed to be viewed at >standard viewing distances on a 27inch display with and 800x600 >display running at 100dpi. So unless your display is at 100dpi >nothing is going to look like it should regardless of the >small/medium/large fonts. it's not a "hack" is a properly configured >Myth box. Thanks for the reply and for giving a concrete answer. I've had my box running for just over a year now so I haven't looked at the docs lately, but when I was configuring the system I don't recall ever coming across this bit of wisdom. I've only ever seen it in the mailing list where the general flow is for somebody to ask about fonts and then for another person to suggest going to 100dpi. Also, some indicator that font size settings in the config menu will not change font sizes in the themed elements would help. -- --John GruenenfelderResearch Assistant, Steward Observatory, U of Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Weasel Reader for PalmOS -- http://gutenpalm.sf.net "This is the most fun I've had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" --Sam of Sam & Max ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:06 pm, Egeekial wrote: > No, this is the same problem. My "Manage Recordings" also just says > "Manage". I was saying that we need bigger fonts, so that we don't have > to use 100dpi fonts. Maybe I've configured something incorrectly with > MythCenter, but I don't think it's designed for the 100dpi fonts... If a theme is not designed for 100dpi, it's broken. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
No, this is the same problem. My "Manage Recordings" also just says "Manage". I was saying that we need bigger fonts, so that we don't have to use 100dpi fonts. Maybe I've configured something incorrectly with MythCenter, but I don't think it's designed for the 100dpi fonts... David Watkins wrote: On 23/06/05, Egeekial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think so. I believe I have tried changing the fonts with different themes to no avail. I am also currently using 100dip fonts, and I can tell that MythCenter wasn't quite made for the larger fonts. Most things look fine, though. Phill Edwards wrote: However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't had any problems at all. I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? Regards, Phill I had the opposite problem. With the MythCentre theme my fonts were too big so "Manage Recordings", for example, appeared as "Manage". I fixed it by editing the menu xml files for that theme. Can't remember exactly where they were (somewhere in ~/.mythtv/ I think) and not sure if it works for all themes but you might be lucky. I never got DisplaySize to have any affect, maybe because I'm using a PVR350 for output. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Korey Fort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a howto on writing a theme anywhere? Not really, but it's not all *that* hard. There are a handful of "tricks" that make a difference but by and large it's pretty straight forward. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would really be nice if they could show the actual font > size being used, rather than describing it in vague text. You can't really do that. There are dozens of fonts used in a theme. How would you pick which size to list and how could you be sure what relation it had to the rest of the theme. Personaly I try to stick to a standard of 2 point sizes diffference between each setting. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
Is there a howto on writing a theme anywhere? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aaron Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:38 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please On 6/23/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.jdonavan.net/min1.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min2.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min3.jpg Wow, that is really nice. Almost makes me wish I had a widescreen TV ;) -- aaron ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
According to John Clabaugh, > On 6/23/05, Jeroen Brosens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK I will create the MythCenter v2 despite the upcoming themeing engine, but > > such knowledge as you mentioned here is very useful. Where can I find a > > comprehensive documentation about theme creation? I found some things here > > and there, but nothing seems to cover every aspect. In the most hypothetical > > situation I want to put out a theme, an osd and a bootsplash theme to match, > > but I want it to be easily upgradeable against new theme engines and what > > not, so some efficient coding would be nice. BTW, do you know how to > > implement a running clock (like the WM's taskbar one) into a theme? I want > > that too :) > > > > -- Jeroen > > > > Donavan Stanley schreef: > > On 6/23/05, Mark J. Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It would be really nice if the themes could be written where all of the > > sizes > could be referred to as something like "bigsize, mediumsize, > > smallsize, > tinysize, and hugesize". Then the actual sizes could be changed > > in one > central place, or even obey the setup options. > > > They can be, several of them do, however on a 100dpi display they > should all > > be readable fit properly at their default > > size. It would really be nice if they could show the actual font size being used, rather than describing it in vague text. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.jdonavan.net/min1.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min2.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min3.jpg Wow, that is really nice. Almost makes me wish I had a widescreen TV ;) -- aaron ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Donavan Stanley wrote: > On 6/23/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Minimalist-Wide is something I slapped together as a proof of concept > > and as such it has MANY rough edges. I'm currently working on a > > rewrite that looks MUCH better, and should use fewer graphics. > > > http://www.jdonavan.net/min1.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min2.jpg > http://www.jdonavan.net/min3.jpg Very nice! I really like this color scheme. I personally like to use the "short date" format which includes the Day of Week. In min2.jpg it looks like using that format would cause an overlap. The problem also exists with the Titivillus theme, and I have a three line patch which give me just enough room to squeeze the Day of Week in there. Since no one else complains about that, I guess no one else likes the Day of Week to show on that screen. I have no problem continuing to patch the theme whenever I do a new install. I just though I would bring it up in case you wanted to allow for that format. Thanks, John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Minimalist-Wide is something I slapped together as a proof of concept > and as such it has MANY rough edges. I'm currently working on a > rewrite that looks MUCH better, and should use fewer graphics. http://www.jdonavan.net/min1.jpg http://www.jdonavan.net/min2.jpg http://www.jdonavan.net/min3.jpg ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, John Clabaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, what is the "correct" way of configuring a MythTV box to output to > a 46" 720p widescreen TV? Use a 720p modeline... there's been a few of them posted to the mailing list. > I'd like to maintain 1:1 pixel mapping, so > running at 800x600 is out of the question. That's a given. > I'm currently have X forced to run at 100dpi, but I still see UI artifacts > using the > Minimalist-Wide theme Minimalist-Wide is something I slapped together as a proof of concept and as such it has MANY rough edges. I'm currently working on a rewrite that looks MUCH better, and should use fewer graphics. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Jeroen Brosens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK I will create the MythCenter v2 despite the upcoming themeing engine, but > such knowledge as you mentioned here is very useful. Where can I find a > comprehensive documentation about theme creation? I found some things here > and there, but nothing seems to cover every aspect. In the most hypothetical > situation I want to put out a theme, an osd and a bootsplash theme to match, > but I want it to be easily upgradeable against new theme engines and what > not, so some efficient coding would be nice. BTW, do you know how to > implement a running clock (like the WM's taskbar one) into a theme? I want > that too :) > > -- Jeroen > > Donavan Stanley schreef: > On 6/23/05, Mark J. Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be really nice if the themes could be written where all of the > sizes could be referred to as something like "bigsize, mediumsize, > smallsize, tinysize, and hugesize". Then the actual sizes could be changed > in one central place, or even obey the setup options. > They can be, several of them do, however on a 100dpi display they should all > be readable fit properly at their default > size. ___ mythtv-users > mailing > list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > So, what is the "correct" way of configuring a MythTV box to output to a 46" 720p widescreen TV? I'd like to maintain 1:1 pixel mapping, so running at 800x600 is out of the question. I'm currently have X forced to run at 100dpi, but I still see UI artifacts using the Minimalist-Wide theme (ie. Mythmusic tree graphic doesn't line up with the text, Watch Recordings list has 2 items hidden behind the description at the bottom, Various menu item text disappears depending on what I currently have highlighted). ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
OK I will create the MythCenter v2 despite the upcoming themeing engine, but such knowledge as you mentioned here is very useful. Where can I find a comprehensive documentation about theme creation? I found some things here and there, but nothing seems to cover every aspect. In the most hypothetical situation I want to put out a theme, an osd and a bootsplash theme to match, but I want it to be easily upgradeable against new theme engines and what not, so some efficient coding would be nice. BTW, do you know how to implement a running clock (like the WM's taskbar one) into a theme? I want that too :) -- Jeroen Donavan Stanley schreef: On 6/23/05, Mark J. Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be really nice if the themes could be written where all of the sizes could be referred to as something like "bigsize, mediumsize, smallsize, tinysize, and hugesize". Then the actual sizes could be changed in one central place, or even obey the setup options. They can be, several of them do, however on a 100dpi display they should all be readable fit properly at their default size. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On June 23, 2005 10:18 am, Donavan Stanley wrote: > On 6/22/05, John Gruenenfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see this solution posted all the time. I used this solution to make X > > think I was using a 100 dpi display so the fonts would be bigger. > > > > However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size > > options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, > > medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done > > anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack > > method. > > Yes it's the real solution. Themes are designed to be viewed at > standard viewing distances on a 27inch display with and 800x600 > display running at 100dpi. So unless your display is at 100dpi > nothing is going to look like it should regardless of the > small/medium/large fonts. it's not a "hack" is a properly configured > Myth box. So what do I do with a 20" display and a rather long viewing distance, running at 640x480. I'll happily buy a bigger tv if you want to give me a few hundred dollars... Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, I created MythCenter and intended it to work with the Trebuchet MS > > font (part of the ms corefonts). Set your resolution to 800x600 and > > MythTV font sizes to default values (small:12,medium:16,large:25). I > > didn't set any dpi settings in my xorg.conf, so with all these defaults, > > the theme should display fine. > > Do you know what I need to do to ensure that font is being used? Or > even what package needs to be installed on FC3 for that font to exist? Install the mscorefonts package. FC *might* be one of those that does it automaticly. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
> Hi, I created MythCenter and intended it to work with the Trebuchet MS > font (part of the ms corefonts). Set your resolution to 800x600 and > MythTV font sizes to default values (small:12,medium:16,large:25). I > didn't set any dpi settings in my xorg.conf, so with all these defaults, > the theme should display fine. Do you know what I need to do to ensure that font is being used? Or even what package needs to be installed on FC3 for that font to exist? PS - looking forward to vsn 2 :) Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Jeroen Brosens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I created MythCenter and intended it to work with the Trebuchet MS > font (part of the ms corefonts). Set your resolution to 800x600 and > MythTV font sizes to default values (small:12,medium:16,large:25). I > didn't set any dpi settings in my xorg.conf, so with all these defaults, > the theme should display fine. heh no your theme is off by a little (or a lot depending) on your DPI, things will over lap, text will be cut off, etc. All themes are supposed to be done using a 100dpi display to ensure consistent appearance across all systems. Not being at 100dpi when you build you theme leads to all kinda of uglyness in the themes. Though if you resused the various layouts in the *ui.xml files then you're probably ok since the ones that ship with Myth are laid out using 100dpi. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/23/05, Mark J. Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be really nice if the themes could be written where all of the sizes > could be referred to as something like "bigsize, mediumsize, smallsize, > tinysize, and hugesize". Then the actual sizes could be changed in one > central place, or even obey the setup options. They can be, several of them do, however on a 100dpi display they should all be readable fit properly at their default size. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 6/22/05, John Gruenenfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see this solution posted all the time. I used this solution to make X think > I was using a 100 dpi display so the fonts would be bigger. > > However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size > options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, > and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I > don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. Yes it's the real solution. Themes are designed to be viewed at standard viewing distances on a 27inch display with and 800x600 display running at 100dpi. So unless your display is at 100dpi nothing is going to look like it should regardless of the small/medium/large fonts. it's not a "hack" is a properly configured Myth box. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On June 23, 2005 12:41 am, Phill Edwards wrote: > > However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size > > options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, > > medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done > > anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack > > method. > > > > >From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing > > > the > > > > font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't > > work. > > > > So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change > > anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on > > a Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I > > haven't had any problems at all. > > I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear > to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if > that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? > > Regards, > Phill For me, changing the font size in the setup changed a few things. For example, the "do you really want to exit mythtv" options and the delete recording submenu. Everything else seems to be hardcoded in to the themes. Unfortunately, the themes seem to define the font sizes for nearly every line of text individually. That means that when I created my own modified version of titivilius, ( I called it Bigvilius), I had to change the xml files line by line. It would be really nice if the themes could be written where all of the sizes could be referred to as something like "bigsize, mediumsize, smallsize, tinysize, and hugesize". Then the actual sizes could be changed in one central place, or even obey the setup options. Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
Hi, I created MythCenter and intended it to work with the Trebuchet MS font (part of the ms corefonts). Set your resolution to 800x600 and MythTV font sizes to default values (small:12,medium:16,large:25). I didn't set any dpi settings in my xorg.conf, so with all these defaults, the theme should display fine. Meanwhile, I am very busy on my thesis, so I hope to find some time to do the MythCenter 2.0 update. I got some useful input so I know what to do; please give it a little time. -- Jeroen Egeekial wrote: I don't think so. I believe I have tried changing the fonts with different themes to no avail. I am also currently using 100dip fonts, and I can tell that MythCenter wasn't quite made for the larger fonts. Most things look fine, though. Phill Edwards wrote: However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't had any problems at all. I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On 23/06/05, Egeekial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think so. I believe I have tried changing the fonts with > different themes to no avail. > > I am also currently using 100dip fonts, and I can tell that MythCenter > wasn't quite made for the larger fonts. Most things look fine, though. > > Phill Edwards wrote: > > >>However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size > >>options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, > >>and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and > >>I > >>don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. > >> > >>>From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the > >>font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. > >> > >>So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change > >>anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a > >>Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't > >>had any problems at all. > >> > >> > > > >I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear > >to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if > >that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? > > > >Regards, > >Phill I had the opposite problem. With the MythCentre theme my fonts were too big so "Manage Recordings", for example, appeared as "Manage". I fixed it by editing the menu xml files for that theme. Can't remember exactly where they were (somewhere in ~/.mythtv/ I think) and not sure if it works for all themes but you might be lucky. I never got DisplaySize to have any affect, maybe because I'm using a PVR350 for output. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
I don't think so. I believe I have tried changing the fonts with different themes to no avail. I am also currently using 100dip fonts, and I can tell that MythCenter wasn't quite made for the larger fonts. Most things look fine, though. Phill Edwards wrote: However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't had any problems at all. I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
> However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size > options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, > and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I > don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. > > >From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the > font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. > > So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change > anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a > Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't > had any problems at all. I agree. I tried changing the font size in setup and it didn't appear to make any difference to anything. I'm using the MythCenter theme if that makes any difference. Maybe it's a theme support thang? Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:48:26AM -0700, Daniel Segel wrote: >Change or add a DisplaySize line in your Xorg.conf (or equivalent) >Monitor section. You can make the fonts huge that way if you want. > >Start with: > >DisplaySize 182 121 > >and then try values like 150 100 and 300 200 instead. Restart the X >server after each change and note the difference. > >Daniel I see this solution posted all the time. I used this solution to make X think I was using a 100 dpi display so the fonts would be bigger. However... is this *really* the solution? What about all the font size options in the Myth config? You can set the point sizes for small, medium, and large fonts. On my machine, changing those has never done anything and I don't know why. That's why I eventually used the dpi hack method. >From reading the other messages, it seems that most people try changing the font sizes first, then fall back to changing the dpi when that doesn't work. So... what's wrong? Why don't the font items in the config menu change anything? Does it have to do with the environment? I'm running Myth on a Debian machine using AfterStep as my WM. Aside from font issues, I haven't had any problems at all. -- --John GruenenfelderResearch Assistant, Steward Observatory, U of Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Weasel Reader for PalmOS -- http://gutenpalm.sf.net "This is the most fun I've had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" --Sam of Sam & Max ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
Daniel Segel wrote: Tachtevrenidis, Kosta wrote: does anybody know how to make the mythtv interface font bigger? I can change the font size on the mythtv interface menus but when it comes to the main menus like the "Watch TV" button, I can not change it a bit. Also if someone know how to change the font of the program guide, that would be way helpful. I managed to change the font of the OSD but that was it. Change or add a DisplaySize line in your Xorg.conf (or equivalent) Monitor section. You can make the fonts huge that way if you want. Start with: DisplaySize 182 121 and then try values like 150 100 and 300 200 instead. Restart the X server after each change and note the difference. Note that doing this will change X's computed DPI: DisplaySize width height This optional entry gives the width and height, in millimetres, of the picture area of the monitor. If given this is used to calculate the horizontal and vertical pitch (DPI) of the screen. which will result in images and text failing to line up properly in several themes (i.e. arrows will be too high/low in the MythVideo List view, "highlighted" or "boxed in" text may not appear in the highlight/box, etc.) since the themes are designed for displays using 100 dpi. A better way to change fonts (assuming the theme designer did not provide for changes using small/default/big font settings--which can be changed in setup) is to customize the theme and specify the desired font sizes. Search the archives for more info on how to do this (especially how to do it without having to edit the theme every time you upgrade). Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please
Change or add a DisplaySize line in your Xorg.conf (or equivalent) Monitor section. You can make the fonts huge that way if you want. Start with: DisplaySize 182 121 and then try values like 150 100 and 300 200 instead. Restart the X server after each change and note the difference. Daniel Tachtevrenidis, Kosta wrote: dear friends, does anybody know how to make the mythtv interface font bigger? I can change the font size on the mythtv interface menus but when it comes to the main menus like the "Watch TV" button, I can not change it a bit. Also if someone know how to change the font of the program guide, that would be way helpful. I managed to change the font of the OSD but that was it. Kosta Tachtevrenidis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
