Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:13 -0400, Donavan Stanley wrote: On 8/8/05, Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone happen to know why can't mythtv tap into the CC stream? What's the difference between this CC stream and some other CC stream from a different tuner card? CC support isn't present in the stable ivtv drivers. Until the ivtv folks can manage to put out a stable driver that also supports CC data myth will not support it. Does anyone know what formats mythtv expects the CC data to be in? The IVTV folks have added the ability to embed VBI data into the output mpegs, but it's currently in a proprietary format. If we can provide them with some standards to choose from, then perhaps we can get CC working with IVTV hardware. Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani Programmer/Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 00:16 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. Anyone encountered this before? Is it an ivtv driver issue, or a mythtv issue? Doesn't work isn't very descriptive. What does it do? What doesn't it do? Sigh. Yeah, ok. If you really want the play-by-play: ... The only way doesn't work could allow someone to respond with a sensible answer without guessing is if the functionality is not supported in Myth. Oh, BTW, closed-captioning is not supported with PVR-x50's in Myth. :) Gee, I guess you didn't need the play-by-play after all. :( Sorry, I figured you'd see the line about CC before starting to respond and realize that the only play-by-play I needed was for commflagging... Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On 8/8/05, Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone happen to know why can't mythtv tap into the CC stream? What's the difference between this CC stream and some other CC stream from a different tuner card? CC support isn't present in the stable ivtv drivers. Until the ivtv folks can manage to put out a stable driver that also supports CC data myth will not support it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 01:05, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Also, what about commercial detection? Is that supposed to work with PVR-x50's, or not? If it is, then I'd love to figure out what I need to change to make it work on my system. Commercial detection works just fine with my box which has a PVR-350 and a PVR-250 in it. Commercial detection AFAIK only works on recorded shows. A commercial flagging process is run after a show completes recording. Once the process is done you can watch the show and set it to auto skip. This works fairly well in my setup. If you are trying to skip commercials in live tv as far as I know that is not currently part of mythtv. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
At 08:57 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 01:05, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Also, what about commercial detection? Is that supposed to work with PVR-x50's, or not? If it is, then I'd love to figure out what I need to change to make it work on my system. Commercial detection works just fine with my box which has a PVR-350 and a PVR-250 in it. Commercial detection AFAIK only works on recorded shows. A commercial flagging process is run after a show completes recording. Once the process is done you can watch the show and set it to auto skip. This works fairly well in my setup. If you are trying to skip commercials in live tv as far as I know that is not currently part of mythtv. but you can use the skip button to jump ahead 30 seconds at a time which works quite nicely as long as you're not watching it live (start it and pause) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:09, Jim Reith wrote: At 08:57 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: If you are trying to skip commercials in live tv as far as I know that is not currently part of mythtv. but you can use the skip button to jump ahead 30 seconds at a time which works quite nicely as long as you're not watching it live (start it and pause) You are correct, and that does work just fine on my PVR-350 system. I actually rarely watch live tv anymore. I watch recorded shows almost 100% of the time on the myth box, primarily to take advantage of the commercial flagging process. This does mean watching stuff time shifted by about an hour and 12 minutes or so if I want to watch them the same night they are broadcast. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
At 09:19 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:09, Jim Reith wrote: At 08:57 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: If you are trying to skip commercials in live tv as far as I know that is not currently part of mythtv. but you can use the skip button to jump ahead 30 seconds at a time which works quite nicely as long as you're not watching it live (start it and pause) You are correct, and that does work just fine on my PVR-350 system. I actually rarely watch live tv anymore. I watch recorded shows almost 100% of the time on the myth box, primarily to take advantage of the commercial flagging process. This does mean watching stuff time shifted by about an hour and 12 minutes or so if I want to watch them the same night they are broadcast. yeah, we've done that as well. The biggest issue we now have is that with multiple tuners, we no longer have to choose which show to watch so we're getting even further behind and if you consider the star treks and 7 days shown during the day we always missed and things like MI-5 shown at 4am... well, the disk is full and I'm unable to write things out to DVD ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:37, Jim Reith wrote: At 09:19 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: You are correct, and that does work just fine on my PVR-350 system. I actually rarely watch live tv anymore. I watch recorded shows almost 100% of the time on the myth box, primarily to take advantage of the commercial flagging process. This does mean watching stuff time shifted by about an hour and 12 minutes or so if I want to watch them the same night they are broadcast. yeah, we've done that as well. The biggest issue we now have is that with multiple tuners, we no longer have to choose which show to watch so we're getting even further behind and if you consider the star treks and 7 days shown during the day we always missed and things like MI-5 shown at 4am... well, the disk is full and I'm unable to write things out to DVD :) I have noticed that after about 6 months the rate of shows being recorded has tapered off some since there are many more duplicates now. The database does a good job of just recording things that have not been seen before. Of course I did setup a 1TB /video file system for the recordings which helps buffer things. :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
At 10:49 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:37, Jim Reith wrote: At 09:19 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: You are correct, and that does work just fine on my PVR-350 system. I actually rarely watch live tv anymore. I watch recorded shows almost 100% of the time on the myth box, primarily to take advantage of the commercial flagging process. This does mean watching stuff time shifted by about an hour and 12 minutes or so if I want to watch them the same night they are broadcast. yeah, we've done that as well. The biggest issue we now have is that with multiple tuners, we no longer have to choose which show to watch so we're getting even further behind and if you consider the star treks and 7 days shown during the day we always missed and things like MI-5 shown at 4am... well, the disk is full and I'm unable to write things out to DVD :) I have noticed that after about 6 months the rate of shows being recorded has tapered off some since there are many more duplicates now. The database does a good job of just recording things that have not been seen before. Of course I did setup a 1TB /video file system for the recordings which helps buffer things. :) yeah, I just picked up another 200gb disk to throw in. I do wish I could get some type of DVD write to work (within that box rather than the copy to Mac method. I do figure that at some point we'll get into repeat mode where new recordings aren't as frequent ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Hello, It took me literally a week of my off time, but I've finally got most of the components of mythtv running to my satisfaction: Home made IR Blaster, PVR 350, 250G disk array over NFS, updated knoppmyth ivtv drivers to 0.3.7b so I can watch DVDs on the 350's TV out, etc... LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. Anyone encountered this before? Is it an ivtv driver issue, or a mythtv issue? Thanks! CC sort of works with the PVR-350, but you have to use the ivtv driver form of it, not the CC functions within MythTV. This means you control CC using your TV's CC decoder, just like if your were watching a normal broadcast. You can enable it by setting the CC options for the ivtv driver in your modules.conf (or wherever is appropriate for your distro). I do it like this in /etc/modules.d/ivtv on my Gentoo system: post-install ivtv /usr/local/bin/ivtvctl -p 6 -l 2 -x 1 -w wss,cc -b wss,cc I say sort of works because it has a bug that renders it nearly unusable - it only works if you start playback from the very beginning of the recording, and it stops if you skip either direction or FF or REW. Basically any motion in the recording other than simply watching it straight through will turn off the CC decoding. This includes commercial skipping. It's being discussed off and on on the ivtv-dev list, and will hopefully be fixed soon, but then again it may not be. Daniel ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
A commercial flagging process is run after a show completes recording. Commerical flagging now starts shortly after a program starts recording and stays behind real-time. Once the program finishes recording the commerical flagger will go to full speed, so the last 5 minutes don't necessarily take 5 minutes to flag. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
At 11:16 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: A commercial flagging process is run after a show completes recording. Commerical flagging now starts shortly after a program starts recording and stays behind real-time. Once the program finishes recording the commerical flagger will go to full speed, so the last 5 minutes don't necessarily take 5 minutes to flag. What release of which piece enables this? That would be great ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
Daniel Segel wrote: Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Hello, It took me literally a week of my off time, but I've finally got most of the components of mythtv running to my satisfaction: Home made IR Blaster, PVR 350, 250G disk array over NFS, updated knoppmyth ivtv drivers to 0.3.7b so I can watch DVDs on the 350's TV out, etc... LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. Anyone encountered this before? Is it an ivtv driver issue, or a mythtv issue? Thanks! CC sort of works with the PVR-350, but you have to use the ivtv driver form of it, not the CC functions within MythTV. This means you control CC using your TV's CC decoder, just like if your were watching a normal broadcast. You can enable it by setting the CC options for the ivtv driver in your modules.conf (or wherever is appropriate for your distro). I do it like this in /etc/modules.d/ivtv on my Gentoo system: post-install ivtv /usr/local/bin/ivtvctl -p 6 -l 2 -x 1 -w wss,cc -b wss,cc I say sort of works because it has a bug that renders it nearly unusable - it only works if you start playback from the very beginning of the recording, and it stops if you skip either direction or FF or REW. Basically any motion in the recording other than simply watching it straight through will turn off the CC decoding. This includes commercial skipping. It's being discussed off and on on the ivtv-dev list, and will hopefully be fixed soon, but then again it may not be. Ah. Great answer. Thanks. Does anyone happen to know why can't mythtv tap into the CC stream? What's the difference between this CC stream and some other CC stream from a different tuner card? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani Programmer/Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
What release of which piece enables this? That would be great Since it's not touted in the release notes of .18 or .18.1, I'd say svn only at this time. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 08:57:28AM -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 01:05, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Also, what about commercial detection? Is that supposed to work with PVR-x50's, or not? If it is, then I'd love to figure out what I need to change to make it work on my system. Commercial detection works just fine with my box which has a PVR-350 and a PVR-250 in it. Commercial detection is not dependent on the type of input device. The success rate varies depending on the station, though, as many are now taking active steps to foil commercial detection. There are (or were, anyway) at least five ways to detect commercials: (1) Networks used to insert a countdown signal in the pre-scan region at the top-right of the screen. It was a little white box that would blink and then go solid just before the commercial. The regional stations would use that as a guide for inserting local-run commercials. I don't think that system is used any more. (2) Some shows used to carry the time signal above frame where CC is now located, so you could watch for a break in the time signal. I don't know if it's still there or not. (3) There is usually a few frames of black and silence between shows and commercials and between commercials. It's easily detected. (4) Many stations use a watermark in the lower right corner of the screen so you'll always know what station you're watching (or where the recording came from). That dissappears during commercials. (5) Commercial sound levels are usually a few dB louder than the show they are breaking. Stations don't care if you fall asleep during the movie as long as the first thing you see when you wake up is a beer commercial. :-) AFAIK, MythTV detects using #3 and #4. Some stations are running the commercials closer together to eliminate the breaks, or at least time the first one to cut into the show. My MythTV usually misses the first commercial because there's no blanking, but catches the second one. MyTH's commercial detection tends to break down during the last break before the end of the show. Many stations will run 3 or 4 minutes of commercials and then come back for the closing statement (or cliffhanger) and then roll credits. Myth can see the breaks but can't tell which are commercials and which are the show because the final show segment is too short. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
At 11:51 AM 8/8/2005, you wrote: What release of which piece enables this? That would be great Since it's not touted in the release notes of .18 or .18.1, I'd say svn only at this time. another .19 feature to look forward to ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:51:06AM -0500, Robert Kulagowski wrote: What release of which piece enables this? That would be great Since it's not touted in the release notes of .18 or .18.1, I'd say svn only at this time. I am running 18.1-3 (Debian) and it has a check-box on the 5th or 6th page of the mythtv-setup General settings dialog that says Start auto commercial flagging jobs when recording starts. My flagging is always done about 5 minutes after the recording has finished. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:51:06AM -0500, Robert Kulagowski wrote: What release of which piece enables this? That would be great Since it's not touted in the release notes of .18 or .18.1, I'd say svn only at this time. I am running 18.1-3 (Debian) and it has a check-box on the 5th or 6th page of the mythtv-setup General settings dialog that says Start auto commercial flagging jobs when recording starts. My flagging is always done about 5 minutes after the recording has finished. It's in 0.18.1-r2 on Gentoo as well, and it was in earlier 0.18.1 versions as well. Daniel ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
Hello Chris Great explanation. About point 4. Does it only look for the watermark in the lower right corner ? Looking at German/Swiss/Austria Television it would only catch one channel (RTL-2). 80% use the upper right corner, the others use the upper left corner. You think mythcommflag has to be changed to do a better job ? Pascal - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 08:57:28AM -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 01:05, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Also, what about commercial detection? Is that supposed to work with PVR-x50's, or not? If it is, then I'd love to figure out what I need to change to make it work on my system. Commercial detection works just fine with my box which has a PVR-350 and a PVR-250 in it. Commercial detection is not dependent on the type of input device. The success rate varies depending on the station, though, as many are now taking active steps to foil commercial detection. There are (or were, anyway) at least five ways to detect commercials: (1) Networks used to insert a countdown signal in the pre-scan region at the top-right of the screen. It was a little white box that would blink and then go solid just before the commercial. The regional stations would use that as a guide for inserting local-run commercials. I don't think that system is used any more. (2) Some shows used to carry the time signal above frame where CC is now located, so you could watch for a break in the time signal. I don't know if it's still there or not. (3) There is usually a few frames of black and silence between shows and commercials and between commercials. It's easily detected. (4) Many stations use a watermark in the lower right corner of the screen so you'll always know what station you're watching (or where the recording came from). That dissappears during commercials. (5) Commercial sound levels are usually a few dB louder than the show they are breaking. Stations don't care if you fall asleep during the movie as long as the first thing you see when you wake up is a beer commercial. :-) AFAIK, MythTV detects using #3 and #4. Some stations are running the commercials closer together to eliminate the breaks, or at least time the first one to cut into the show. My MythTV usually misses the first commercial because there's no blanking, but catches the second one. MyTH's commercial detection tends to break down during the last break before the end of the show. Many stations will run 3 or 4 minutes of commercials and then come back for the closing statement (or cliffhanger) and then roll credits. Myth can see the breaks but can't tell which are commercials and which are the show because the final show segment is too short. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
I am running 18.1-3 (Debian) and it has a check-box on the 5th or 6th page of the mythtv-setup General settings dialog that says Start auto commercial flagging jobs when recording starts. My flagging is always done about 5 minutes after the recording has finished. Well, there you go then. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Sunday 07 August 2005 11:29 pm, Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: Hello, It took me literally a week of my off time, but I've finally got most of the components of mythtv running to my satisfaction: Home made IR Blaster, PVR 350, 250G disk array over NFS, updated knoppmyth ivtv drivers to 0.3.7b so I can watch DVDs on the 350's TV out, etc... LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. For some reason, myth doesn't look for mythcommflag in /usr/local/bin. I've created a link /usr/bin/mythcommflag that points to /usr/local/bin/mythcommflag. That fixed commercial flagging for me. Look through your mythbackend logs and search for mythcommflag. That would help us identify the problem. IvanK. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 11:16, Robert Kulagowski wrote: A commercial flagging process is run after a show completes recording. Commerical flagging now starts shortly after a program starts recording and stays behind real-time. Once the program finishes recording the commerical flagger will go to full speed, so the last 5 minutes don't necessarily take 5 minutes to flag. This is in 18? That is very neat. Does this increase the overall load on the CPU? I know the current process pegs the CPU during the 10 or 12 minutes it takes to flag an hour show on my system. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:51:06AM -0500, Robert Kulagowski wrote: What release of which piece enables this? That would be great Since it's not touted in the release notes of .18 or .18.1, I'd say svn only at this time. I am running 18.1-3 (Debian) and it has a check-box on the 5th or 6th page of the mythtv-setup General settings dialog that says Start auto commercial flagging jobs when recording starts. My flagging is always done about 5 minutes after the recording has finished. To clarify: Do I need to wait until the flagging job is complete to take advantage of it? Or can I start watching the show and take advantage of a partially complete commercial flagging operation as I go? -- Jesse Guardiani Programmer/Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 01:46:20PM -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: This is in 18? That is very neat. Does this increase the overall load on the CPU? I know the current process pegs the CPU during the 10 or 12 minutes it takes to flag an hour show on my system. During the recording phase the detection process is limited by the capture stream. If your box is able to detect commercials in faster-than-real-time then CPU load will not be a problem while the recording is in progress (assuming you are using a hardware encoder). Once the recording finishes the CPU load jumps significantly for the last few minutes. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: It took me literally a week of my off time, but I've finally got most of the components of mythtv running to my satisfaction: Home made IR Blaster, PVR 350, 250G disk array over NFS, updated knoppmyth ivtv drivers to 0.3.7b so I can watch DVDs on the 350's TV out, etc... LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. Anyone encountered this before? Is it an ivtv driver issue, or a mythtv issue? Doesn't work isn't very descriptive. What does it do? What doesn't it do? The only way doesn't work could allow someone to respond with a sensible answer without guessing is if the functionality is not supported in Myth. Oh, BTW, closed-captioning is not supported with PVR-x50's in Myth. :) Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350, closed captioning, commercial detection
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 00:16 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: Jesse D. Guardiani wrote: It took me literally a week of my off time, but I've finally got most of the components of mythtv running to my satisfaction: Home made IR Blaster, PVR 350, 250G disk array over NFS, updated knoppmyth ivtv drivers to 0.3.7b so I can watch DVDs on the 350's TV out, etc... LiveTV and playback are working great, but commercial detection and closed captioning don't work at all. Anyone encountered this before? Is it an ivtv driver issue, or a mythtv issue? Doesn't work isn't very descriptive. What does it do? What doesn't it do? Sigh. Yeah, ok. If you really want the play-by-play: 1.) I start watching livetv (or a recording). 2.) I bring up the menu 3.) I moved down to the closed captioning line 4.) I click my OK button on my hauppauge remote over the toggle cc option. 5.) It doesn't work. Nothing changes. No closed captioning. The only way doesn't work could allow someone to respond with a sensible answer without guessing is if the functionality is not supported in Myth. Oh, BTW, closed-captioning is not supported with PVR-x50's in Myth. :) Gee, I guess you didn't need the play-by-play after all. :( Asinine comments aside, how come closed-captioning isn't supported on the PVR-x50's? Is it a driver issue (in other words, is the ivtv driver incapable of processing closed captioning), or is it just that mythtv needs some work to integrate with closed captioning support in the ivtv driver? Also, what about commercial detection? Is that supposed to work with PVR-x50's, or not? If it is, then I'd love to figure out what I need to change to make it work on my system. Thanks. -- Jesse Guardiani Programmer/Sys Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
