Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 21:58, Chris Petersen wrote: > I just got my air2pc card hooked up, but am getting a strange artifact > with 1080i content... basically, I have a big pink bar on the right > hand side of the screen that covers up about 1/4 of the picture. > > This is not a mythtv-specific problem. I can record the content just > fine, and play it back fine with mplayer or xine (moving around the > playback window, I can see all of the data), but the instant that I send > either of them to fullscreen mode, the pink bar comes back. > > The only thing I can think of off-hand is that maybe I'm running out of > memory on my video card (64M radeon 7500 pro). Any more suggestions? Heh, that's the same bug I had with my Radeon 9000 Pro some ages ago. Every driver for the card was broken in one way or another when it came to playing back HD content... From what I was able to figure out, the Xv support for these cards isn't very good for anything HDTV-sized. I figured it would have improved by now, but I guess not... I just switched to a GF4MX, and all was happy. I probably have a spare GF4MX around here if you want to borrow one for a bit. :-) -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got a question? Read this first... http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html MythTV, Fedora Core & ATrpms documentation: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ MythTV Searchable Mailing List Archive http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ pgpcBlXwx8BOg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/13/05, Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 04:38:53PM -0700, Xiaotian Sun wrote: > > The driver lies. It's not the only one, I found the IEG chips > claimed a larger window too but could not draw more than 1280 wide > as I recall. > > Until HDTV came along, nobody really tested xvideo scaling circuits > with wider than 1600 I suspect, so it's harder to get than one would > think. > > I don't know if ati's proprietary linux drivers help in this area. No, it doesn't. I also installed the ati driver. At first, it had some permission error, which I don't remember exactly. I managed to get rid of that error using some suggestions I found online, then I found the same pink bar for 1080i video. > We do need lists of "what doesn't work" to add to the lists of what > does work. > Xiaotian ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 04:38:53PM -0700, Xiaotian Sun wrote: > > I don't know exactly what this implies, but when I run xvinfo, it > tells me the maximum XvImage size is 2048x2048. > > Anyhow, I manage to work around the problem by writing a start-up > script for mythfrontend and don't use xv. The driver lies. It's not the only one, I found the IEG chips claimed a larger window too but could not draw more than 1280 wide as I recall. Until HDTV came along, nobody really tested xvideo scaling circuits with wider than 1600 I suspect, so it's harder to get than one would think. I don't know if ati's proprietary linux drivers help in this area. We do need lists of "what doesn't work" to add to the lists of what does work. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/11/05, James Stembridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But ATI's Windows driver explicitly claim support for 1080i and 9100 IGP. > > > See > > > > > > http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst_410_release_notes.html > > > > Where? > > > > As far as I can see they've added HDTV output modes, all very well but > > this is very different from the backend scaler on the chip actually > > being able to render HDTV sized video. > > So can anyone give a definite answer, whether the Radeon 9100 IGP > (RS300 chipset) supports 1080i video overlay or not? > > I guess at some point, I may have to install Windows and see what happens. I don't know exactly what this implies, but when I run xvinfo, it tells me the maximum XvImage size is 2048x2048. Anyhow, I manage to work around the problem by writing a start-up script for mythfrontend and don't use xv. #! /bin/bash export NO_XV=1 sudo nice -n -2 mythfrontend It's not perfect, but at least watchable. > > > James. > > Xiaotian > Xiaotian ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, James Stembridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But ATI's Windows driver explicitly claim support for 1080i and 9100 IGP. > > See > > > > http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst_410_release_notes.html > > Where? > > As far as I can see they've added HDTV output modes, all very well but > this is very different from the backend scaler on the chip actually > being able to render HDTV sized video. So can anyone give a definite answer, whether the Radeon 9100 IGP (RS300 chipset) supports 1080i video overlay or not? I guess at some point, I may have to install Windows and see what happens. > James. Xiaotian ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But ATI's Windows driver explicitly claim support for 1080i and 9100 IGP. See > > http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst_410_release_notes.html Where? As far as I can see they've added HDTV output modes, all very well but this is very different from the backend scaler on the chip actually being able to render HDTV sized video. James. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, James Stembridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got the same problem with another ATI card, Radeon 9100 IGP. I > > don't think it's video memory related. As far as I can tell, it's > > problem of the combination of radeon card, driver, and xvideo. > > You may well find it's a hardware limitation. I can't find any mention > of HDTV video rendering support on ATI's pages on the 9100 IGP. > But ATI's Windows driver explicitly claim support for 1080i and 9100 IGP. See http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst_410_release_notes.html > James. Xiaotian ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, Xiaotian Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got the same problem with another ATI card, Radeon 9100 IGP. I > don't think it's video memory related. As far as I can tell, it's > problem of the combination of radeon card, driver, and xvideo. You may well find it's a hardware limitation. I can't find any mention of HDTV video rendering support on ATI's pages on the 9100 IGP. James. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
You can verify this by specify "-vo x11" to mplayer and the problem will disappear, though the image quality may not be as good or your machine may not be able to keep up. You are indeed correct. Guess I need to get myself a new video card. That explains why my mythbox is fine, too -- it's a pundit with the winischofer sis driver. What video card driver you are using? I've filed a bug report with X.org radeon driver. Make a noise there if you'd like. The more people complain, the earlier the problem will be solved. (I've found people have been complaining for 2 years.) radeon 7500 pro https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3226 Thanks, I'll go add a note. -Chris ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/10/05, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got my air2pc card hooked up, but am getting a strange artifact > with 1080i content... basically, I have a big pink bar on the right > hand side of the screen that covers up about 1/4 of the picture. > > This is not a mythtv-specific problem. I can record the content just > fine, and play it back fine with mplayer or xine (moving around the > playback window, I can see all of the data), but the instant that I send > either of them to fullscreen mode, the pink bar comes back. > > The only thing I can think of off-hand is that maybe I'm running out of > memory on my video card (64M radeon 7500 pro). Any more suggestions? > I've got the same problem with another ATI card, Radeon 9100 IGP. I don't think it's video memory related. As far as I can tell, it's problem of the combination of radeon card, driver, and xvideo. You can verify this by specify "-vo x11" to mplayer and the problem will disappear, though the image quality may not be as good or your machine may not be able to keep up. What video card driver you are using? I've filed a bug report with X.org radeon driver. Make a noise there if you'd like. The more people complain, the earlier the problem will be solved. (I've found people have been complaining for 2 years.) Here is the link to my bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3226 > -Chris Xiaotian ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
I get a green line on the right side of my ABC HD recordings (720p) I just used the playback overscan feature to hide it. It's hard to overscan 1/4 of the image. It's not a small bar (I've seen that green one, about 3-4 pixels wide), more like 300 pixels wide (can't screenshot because it's XV). Doesn't happen on my actual mythbox, but it's running at 800x600 for the tv so if it's truly a video card issue, it wouldn't show up at that res. -Chris ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] pink bar with air2pc and 1080i
On 5/11/05, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got my air2pc card hooked up, but am getting a strange artifact > with 1080i content... basically, I have a big pink bar on the right > hand side of the screen that covers up about 1/4 of the picture. > > This is not a mythtv-specific problem. I can record the content just > fine, and play it back fine with mplayer or xine (moving around the > playback window, I can see all of the data), but the instant that I send > either of them to fullscreen mode, the pink bar comes back. > > The only thing I can think of off-hand is that maybe I'm running out of > memory on my video card (64M radeon 7500 pro). Any more suggestions? > > -Chris > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > I get a green line on the right side of my ABC HD recordings (720p) I just used the playback overscan feature to hide it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users