Re: [mythtv-users] Recording Priorities...
Aha. I figured it was something like that. Nifty option. Thanks for the help.On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:16:37AM -0500, AJ Frantz wrote: Why didn't it see that this conflict could be resolved optimally (that is, no conflicts if you delayed recording Mythbusters)?Is this a feature that I failed to read about priorities somewhere?Because delaying a high-priority show to record a low priority showcreates a risk that a schedule change could result in the loss of thehigh priority show.It's a feature. If you want to have the schedule optimized the way you suggest, then theanswer is to enable the Reschedule Higher Priorities option on theRecording Priorities setup page on the frontend menu.This option tells Myth that it's OK to bump high-priority shows if they existelsewhere in the schedule.--When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag andcarrying the cross. - Sinclair Lewis (1935) ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Recording Priorities...
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:16:37AM -0500, AJ Frantz wrote: Why didn't it see that this conflict could be resolved optimally (that is, no conflicts if you delayed recording Mythbusters)? Is this a feature that I failed to read about priorities somewhere? Because delaying a high-priority show to record a low priority show creates a risk that a schedule change could result in the loss of the high priority show. It's a feature. If you want to have the schedule optimized the way you suggest, then the answer is to enable the Reschedule Higher Priorities option on the Recording Priorities setup page on the frontend menu. This option tells Myth that it's OK to bump high-priority shows if they exist elsewhere in the schedule. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross. - Sinclair Lewis (1935) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] recording priorities
IIRC, this is because the overrecord does not take priority over another recording. If the tuner card is needed for another recording the *global* overrecord setting won't be used. The settings on each recording schedule would give you the behaviour you're expecting. That is if you had set in the recording schedule End recording 10 minutes late for My Restaurant Rules you would instead cause CSI to come up in Myth as a conflict and not be recorded. The global overrun only takes effect if the tuner is not needed for another recording, the recording schedule overrun always takes effect and as such will trigger conflicts if the number of simultaneous recordings is greater than the number of tuners. Hope this helps, Joshua King On 29/5/05 8:01 PM, Phil Vid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A question about recording settings and priorities. Tonight I had the following situation. My system has 2 tuner cards. Program 1 runs from 7.00 - 9.00 on channel 10 Program 2 runs from 7.30 - 8.30 on channel 7 Program 3 runs from 8.30 - 9.30 on channel 9 Setup-TV Settings-General - Time to record past end of show = 600 seconds All shows are equal priority. My thought was that Program 1 would tape first, taking up tuner card 1 until 9.10. Program 2 would kick off at 7.30, taking up tuner card 2 until 8.40. Program 3 would therefore not be recorded as both tuner cards are in use. However I find the following in my log - 2005-05-29 19:29:32.667 Started recording My Restaurant Rules on channel: 1004 on cardid: 3, sourceid 1 2005-05-29 19:29:32.668 DVB#1 Trying to tune to channel 7. ... 2005-05-29 20:30:00.002 switching to overrecord for 600 more seconds 4: == Date Time 2005-05-29 20:30:02.391 Finished recording My Restaurant Rules on channel: 1004 2005-05-29 20:30:02.473 Changing from RecordingOnly to None 2005-05-29 20:30:02.477 Closing DVB recorder 2005-05-29 20:30:03.613 Started recording CSI: Crime Scene Investigation on ch annel: 1010 on cardid: 3, sourceid 1 2005-05-29 20:30:03.632 DVB#1 Trying to tune to channel 9. ... 2005-05-29 21:10:00.002 Finished recording Big Brother on channel: 1013 2005-05-29 21:10:00.067 Changing from RecordingOnly to None Is this a bug or am I missing something obvious? I only installed the second tuner this weekend so I haven't really messed with it that much. Thanks, phil ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] recording priorities
Phil Vid wrote: A question about recording settings and priorities. Tonight I had the following situation. My system has 2 tuner cards. Program 1 runs from 7.00 - 9.00 on channel 10 Program 2 runs from 7.30 - 8.30 on channel 7 Program 3 runs from 8.30 - 9.30 on channel 9 Setup-TV Settings-General - Time to record past end of show = 600 seconds All shows are equal priority. My thought was that Program 1 would tape first, taking up tuner card 1 until 9.10. Program 2 would kick off at 7.30, taking up tuner card 2 until 8.40. Program 3 would therefore not be recorded as both tuner cards are in use. However I find the following in my log - 2005-05-29 19:29:32.667 Started recording My Restaurant Rules on channel: 1004 on cardid: 3, sourceid 1 2005-05-29 19:29:32.668 DVB#1 Trying to tune to channel 7. ... 2005-05-29 20:30:00.002 switching to overrecord for 600 more seconds 4: == Date Time 2005-05-29 20:30:02.391 Finished recording My Restaurant Rules on channel: 1004 2005-05-29 20:30:02.473 Changing from RecordingOnly to None 2005-05-29 20:30:02.477 Closing DVB recorder 2005-05-29 20:30:03.613 Started recording CSI: Crime Scene Investigation on ch annel: 1010 on cardid: 3, sourceid 1 2005-05-29 20:30:03.632 DVB#1 Trying to tune to channel 9. ... 2005-05-29 21:10:00.002 Finished recording Big Brother on channel: 1013 2005-05-29 21:10:00.067 Changing from RecordingOnly to None Is this a bug or am I missing something obvious? I only installed the second tuner this weekend so I haven't really messed with it that much. OK, summarizing my understanding of the situation: Myth recorded programs 2 and 3 instead of programs 1 2. Assuming everything else you described is correct (priorities, etc.), then perhaps progam 1 occurs again at a future time. If so, Myth realized that if it recorded programs 1 and 2, it won't be able to record program 3, but since program 1 re-airs, it decided to record a future showing. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] recording priorities
On 5/29/05, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil Vid wrote: Is this a bug or am I missing something obvious? I only installed the second tuner this weekend so I haven't really messed with it that much. OK, summarizing my understanding of the situation: Myth recorded programs 2 and 3 instead of programs 1 2. Assuming everything else you described is correct (priorities, etc.), then perhaps progam 1 occurs again at a future time. If so, Myth realized that if it recorded programs 1 and 2, it won't be able to record program 3, but since program 1 re-airs, it decided to record a future showing. This is how I would interpret the outcome too - otherwise it likely would have recorded P1 on input 1, and P2 and P3 on input 2 without the 10 minute overrecord. Is the scheduling logic available online in metalanguage anywhere, or is it a case of going through the code to work out what was going on? I think it would be useful if users understood the possible scenarios that can occur with simultaneous and back-to-back recordings and the effects of padding. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] recording priorities
OK, summarizing my understanding of the situation: Myth recorded programs 2 and 3 instead of programs 1 2. Assuming everything else you described is correct (priorities, etc.), then perhaps progam 1 occurs again at a future time. If so, Myth realized that if it recorded programs 1 and 2, it won't be able to record program 3, but since program 1 re-airs, it decided to record a future showing. This is how I would interpret the outcome too - otherwise it likely would have recorded P1 on input 1, and P2 and P3 on input 2 without the 10 minute overrecord. Sorry, I missed the bit where I actually explain the outcome :) P1 recorded correctly from 7-9.10 on input 1, P2 records without the overrecord on input 2 from 7.30-8.30 and P3 kicks off on input 2 at 8.30 until 9.30 overriding the overrecord. My expectation was that P3 would not be recorded in this case as both tuners would be busy. This doesnt intuitive to me but if there is a workaround using priorities I can use that instead for the time being. phil ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] recording priorities
Phil Vid wrote: Sorry, I missed the bit where I actually explain the outcome :) P1 recorded correctly from 7-9.10 on input 1, P2 records without the overrecord on input 2 from 7.30-8.30 and P3 kicks off on input 2 at 8.30 until 9.30 overriding the overrecord. My expectation was that P3 would not be recorded in this case as both tuners would be busy. This doesnt intuitive to me but if there is a workaround using priorities I can use that instead for the time being. If you're saying you want to ensure the 10min before and after, just set the Start Early and End Late fields for the recording rule. Global padding is optional--primarily meant to give your card time to get its act in gear before the show starts, which assumes that it will be ready for the following recording without any padding. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
