Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Tarko Tikan]

hey,


If you are in the  Video content delivery business using mcast then
these folks are one of the leaders.  You can put multiple probes
and make sure your mcast coming off source is solid, through the
core router solid, and at the edge...   http://www.ineoquest.com/
they are not cheap but worth every dollar


I can recommend http://www.agama.tv/

We use it for general purpose monitoring but not so much for interactive 
debugging.


Shameless plug: for debugging I wrote https://github.com/tarko/CCmon 
some years ago and it works great. Wanted to have alternative to all 
windows based software out there that will just report number of CC 
errors but will not support multiple streams (or copies of the software 
running), will not produce useful logs for correlation etc.


--
tarko

Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Mark Tinka]

On 25/Jan/16 16:41, Robert Jacobs wrote:

> If you are in the  Video content delivery business using mcast then these 
> folks are one of the leaders.  You can put multiple probes and make sure your 
> mcast coming off source is solid, through the core router solid, and at the 
> edge...   http://www.ineoquest.com/  they are not cheap but worth every 
> dollar  

When evaluating Ineoquest against EXFO a couple of years at ago at
previous employer, EXFO came out shining.

I'll give Ineoquest another chance next time I'm running an IPTV network
and see how far they've come since then.

Mark.

Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Christian Kratzer]

Hi,

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Murat Kaipov wrote:

Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some reason 
picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak times. We have 
had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any oversubscribtion. I 
looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring tool now. Any suggestion?Thank 
you!


one of my customers had issues with their iptv distribution and we consulted 
this guy.

http://lutz.donnerhacke.de/Blog/Ueberwachung-von-Fernsehen-IPTV

The solution he has, subscribes iptv channels on monitoring boxes and uses all 
kinds of
heuristics to look into not just the packates but also the video inside the 
multicast streams.

It turned out that in the specific customers case packet reordering was the 
issue which was
easily eliminated.

Hacing monitoring in place is also great for finger pointing issues where you 
want to prove
that it's not your network but the tv station
screwing up the signal.

Greetings
Christian

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RE: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Robert Jacobs]

If you are in the  Video content delivery business using mcast then these folks 
are one of the leaders.  You can put multiple probes and make sure your mcast 
coming off source is solid, through the core router solid, and at the edge...   
http://www.ineoquest.com/  they are not cheap but worth every dollar  

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of John Kristoff
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:19 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:48:47 +0400
Murat Kaipov  wrote:

> Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some 
> reason picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak 
> times. We have had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any 
> oversubscribtion. I looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring 
> tool now. Any suggestion?

If it is not capacity saturation, it may have something be membership 
stability.  Not knowing anything about your IP multicast configuration, it is 
impossible to say anything concretely with certainty

This is to say however, you may want to also be sure to monitor membership, 
interface, port, PIM, ..., states.

All the way down to spanning tree recalculation, you may not notice it with 
unicast, but anything that might prevent a stream from being forwarded due to a 
join state disruption are sometimes the causes of these types of events.

It is a bit old and may not be the latest copy, but here is a copy of Bill 
Nickless' very handy troubleshooting methodology you should have
handy:

  
<https://nets.ucar.edu/nets/docs/procs/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-multicast.pdf>

Unfortunately there isn't much in that paper about Layer-2 related issues as I 
alluded to above, but hopefully it gets you part of the way there.

John

RE: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Murat Kaipov]

Yes, it is may be effect of microburst in our network or in link between our 
ISP and TV carrier.Thank you.

> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:23:54 +0200
> Subject: Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools
> From: s...@ytti.fi
> To: mkai...@outlook.com
> CC: nanog@nanog.org
> 
> On 25 January 2016 at 10:48, Murat Kaipov  wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> > Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some reason 
> > picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak times. We 
> > have had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any 
> > oversubscribtion. I looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring tool 
> > now. Any suggestion?Thank you!
> 
> How are you monitoring this for oversub? SNMP graphs for pps/bps are
> not useful nor his looking at CLI pps/bps counters. You should monitor
> if there are queue drops on egress. If possible also monitor queue
> length, but not all platforms offer this information.
> My friend Occam says you're probably dropping packets.
> 
> You could also subscribe to the stream with monitoring PC which runs
> something like this https://github.com/tarko/CCmon
> 
> -- 
>   ++ytti
  

Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Saku Ytti]

On 25 January 2016 at 10:48, Murat Kaipov  wrote:

Hey,

> Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some reason 
> picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak times. We 
> have had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any oversubscribtion. 
> I looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring tool now. Any 
> suggestion?Thank you!

How are you monitoring this for oversub? SNMP graphs for pps/bps are
not useful nor his looking at CLI pps/bps counters. You should monitor
if there are queue drops on egress. If possible also monitor queue
length, but not all platforms offer this information.
My friend Occam says you're probably dropping packets.

You could also subscribe to the stream with monitoring PC which runs
something like this https://github.com/tarko/CCmon

-- 
  ++ytti

Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[John Kristoff]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:48:47 +0400
Murat Kaipov  wrote:

> Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some
> reason picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage
> peak times. We have had monitor our links and uplinks and there
> wasn't any oversubscribtion. I looking for usefull multicast stream
> monitoring tool now. Any suggestion?

If it is not capacity saturation, it may have something be membership
stability.  Not knowing anything about your IP multicast configuration,
it is impossible to say anything concretely with certainty

This is to say however, you may want to also be sure to monitor
membership, interface, port, PIM, ..., states.

All the way down to spanning tree recalculation, you may not notice it
with unicast, but anything that might prevent a stream from being
forwarded due to a join state disruption are sometimes the causes of
these types of events.

It is a bit old and may not be the latest copy, but here is a copy of
Bill Nickless' very handy troubleshooting methodology you should have
handy:

  


Unfortunately there isn't much in that paper about Layer-2 related
issues as I alluded to above, but hopefully it gets you part of the
way there.

John

Re: Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Mark Tinka]

On 25/Jan/16 10:48, Murat Kaipov wrote:
> Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some reason 
> picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak times. We 
> have had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any oversubscribtion. 
> I looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring tool now. Any 
> suggestion?Thank you!

EXFO.

It will cost some money, but is worth it.

Mark.

Multicast stream monitoring tools

[Murat Kaipov]

Hello folks!We have an issue with some multicast streams. For some reason 
picture is very unstable in evening, during internet usage peak times. We have 
had monitor our links and uplinks and there wasn't any oversubscribtion. I 
looking for usefull multicast stream monitoring tool now. Any suggestion?Thank 
you!   

Re: [VoiceOps] Monitoring tools

[Jay Ashworth]

Damnit, I hate non RFC 2919 compliant mailers.  Sorry.

- Original Message -
> From: "Jay Ashworth" 
> To: "NANOG" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:17:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Monitoring tools
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Joseph Jackson" 
> 
> > Check out Homer @ http://sipcapture.org we love it. There is also a
> > commercial version that has more features / support.
> 
> Well, I don't know if Homer hsa the realtime viz tool I'm looking for,
> but if it lives up to the attitude of it's website and prezi, then
> it's
> probably a good thing that I know about it anyway, thanks.
> 
> Wonder if anyone's working on Sonus support.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274

-- 
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Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: [VoiceOps] Monitoring tools

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Jackson" 

> Check out Homer @ http://sipcapture.org we love it. There is also a
> commercial version that has more features / support.

Well, I don't know if Homer hsa the realtime viz tool I'm looking for,
but if it lives up to the attitude of it's website and prezi, then it's
probably a good thing that I know about it anyway, thanks.

Wonder if anyone's working on Sonus support.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Harry Hoffman]

Have them check out the various services from Team Cymru:

https://www.team-cymru.org/Services/

Specifically the TC Console

Cheers,
Harry

On 10/02/2013 02:34 AM, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
> No all stats are snmp based
> 
>> On 02 окт. 2013 г., at 9:07, "Dobbins, Roland"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Dooley wrote:
>>>
>>> Coworkers of mine introduced me to Observium:
>>> http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>> Does it utilize flow telemetry?  On the main page, they talk about SNMP, 
>> making it sound a lot like Nagios . . .
>>
>> ---
>> Roland Dobbins  // 
>>
>>  Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
>>
>>   -- John Milton
>>
>>
> 

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Nikolay Shopik]

No all stats are snmp based

> On 02 окт. 2013 г., at 9:07, "Dobbins, Roland"  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Dooley wrote:
>> 
>> Coworkers of mine introduced me to Observium:
>> http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page
> 
> Does it utilize flow telemetry?  On the main page, they talk about SNMP, 
> making it sound a lot like Nagios . . .
> 
> ---
> Roland Dobbins  // 
> 
>  Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
> 
>   -- John Milton
> 
> 

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Dobbins, Roland]

On Oct 2, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Dooley wrote:

> Coworkers of mine introduced me to Observium:
> http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page

Does it utilize flow telemetry?  On the main page, they talk about SNMP, making 
it sound a lot like Nagios . . .

---
Roland Dobbins  // 

  Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.

   -- John Milton

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Ryan Dooley]

Coworkers of mine introduced me to Observium:
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page

Cheers,
Ryan


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Dobbins, Roland  wrote:

>
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 2:29 AM, John Levine wrote:
>
> > These people are plenty smart, but don't have a lot of money.
>
> Enable NetFlow, and use some open-source NetFlow collection/analysis
> system like nfdump/nfsen, etc.
>
> dnstop and the like for DNS can be pretty revealing, as well.
>
> ---
> Roland Dobbins  // 
>
>   Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
>
>-- John Milton
>
>
>

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Dobbins, Roland]

On Oct 2, 2013, at 2:29 AM, John Levine wrote:

> These people are plenty smart, but don't have a lot of money.

Enable NetFlow, and use some open-source NetFlow collection/analysis system 
like nfdump/nfsen, etc.

dnstop and the like for DNS can be pretty revealing, as well.

---
Roland Dobbins  // 

  Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.

   -- John Milton

Re: semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[Michael Shuler]

On 10/01/2013 02:29 PM, John Levine wrote:
> I was talking to a bunch of people who run ISPs and other networks in
> LDCs (yes, including Nigeria) and someone asked about monitoring tools
> to watch traffic on his network so he can get advance warning of dodgy
> customers and prevent complaints and blacklisting.
> 
> These people are plenty smart, but don't have a lot of money.
> Suggestions welcome.

I'd say it's on topic.  OpenNMS has good community support, as well as
reasonably priced commercial support - http://www.opennms.org/

I've used OpenNMS for years and it keeps getting better.

-- 
Kind regards,
Michael

semi-ot: network monitoring tools

[John Levine]

I was talking to a bunch of people who run ISPs and other networks in
LDCs (yes, including Nigeria) and someone asked about monitoring tools
to watch traffic on his network so he can get advance warning of dodgy
customers and prevent complaints and blacklisting.

These people are plenty smart, but don't have a lot of money.
Suggestions welcome.

R's,
John

Re: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[Kyle Bader]

> Hi, I'm putting together a book on security*, and wanted some expert
> input onto network monitoring solutions...
>
> http://www.subspacefield.org/security/security_concepts.html
>
> Nagios, Net-SNMP, ifgraph, cacti, OpenNMS... any others?

prelude, barnyard


-- 

Kyle

RE: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[Michael K. Smith - Adhost]

> -Original Message-
> From: travis+ml-na...@subspacefield.org [mailto:travis+ml-
> na...@subspacefield.org]
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:58 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools
> 
> Hi, I'm putting together a book on security*, and wanted some expert
> input onto network monitoring solutions...
> 
> http://www.subspacefield.org/security/security_concepts.html
> 
> Nagios, Net-SNMP, ifgraph, cacti, OpenNMS... any others?
> 
I would add OSSIM (http://www.alienvault.com/community.php?section=Home)

Mike

Re: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[Charles N Wyble]

On 08/23/2010 07:40 AM, Scott Berkman wrote:

Are you looking only at Open Source tools?  If not you are missing all of
the most widely deployed tools out there (including):


You will also need to look at separate security monitoring software if your
goal is to cover that.  Not including any commercial vendors, I'd say you at
least need to include:
SNORT (possibly including a front end like BASE/ACID)
Suricata
Nessus
   


These days I use openvas.org instead of nessus.

RE: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[Scott Berkman]

Are you looking only at Open Source tools?  If not you are missing all of
the most widely deployed tools out there (including):

HP Open View
Cisco Works
IBM Tivoli/NetCool
Smarts (now EMC Ionix)

Also a few other open tools:
ZenOSS
Zabbix

You will also need to look at separate security monitoring software if your
goal is to cover that.  Not including any commercial vendors, I'd say you at
least need to include:
SNORT (possibly including a front end like BASE/ACID)
Suricata
Nessus
Sguil


As to one solution being "better" than the other, a lot of it comes down to
opinion and exactly what you need.  Also are you willing to do a lot of
coding to get it to do exactly what you want?  What is your budget?  How big
is your network?  What are the vendors in question?  What is most important
to you (graphing, alerting, automated fault resolution, topology
discovery,...)?  How much staff do you have dedicated to the project?  And
on and on...

-Scott


-Original Message-
From: travis+ml-na...@subspacefield.org
[mailto:travis+ml-na...@subspacefield.org] 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:58 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

Hi, I'm putting together a book on security*, and wanted some expert input
onto network monitoring solutions...

http://www.subspacefield.org/security/security_concepts.html

Nagios, Net-SNMP, ifgraph, cacti, OpenNMS... any others?

Any summaries of when one is better than the other?

Any suggestions on section 13-15?  I imagine I'll offend some of you by not
distinguishing between system and network adminsitration, but... it's a
small section right now, maybe if it grows.

OT:
I had issues with understanding MIBs and SNMP tools... specifically, I
wanted to query and graph the pf-specific MIB... any suggested places to
ask?  Do I ask on the Net-SNMP list, or is there a better place?

Also, cacti... seemed to behave differently based on whether the target was
Linux-based or BSD-based... I suppose the cacti-users is the right place to
ask, but if anyone has any suggestions, please LMK.
I hate the UI.
--
My emails do not have attachments; it's a digital signature that your mail
program doesn't understand. | http://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/
If you are a spammer, please email j...@subspacefield.org to get
blacklisted.

Re: on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[François D. Ménard]

Mikrotik TheDude

--
fmen...@xittel.net

On 2010-08-21, at 17:57, travis+ml-na...@subspacefield.org wrote:

> Hi, I'm putting together a book on security*, and wanted some expert
> input onto network monitoring solutions...
> 
> http://www.subspacefield.org/security/security_concepts.html
> 
> Nagios, Net-SNMP, ifgraph, cacti, OpenNMS... any others?
> 
> Any summaries of when one is better than the other?
> 
> Any suggestions on section 13-15?  I imagine I'll offend some of you
> by not distinguishing between system and network adminsitration,
> but... it's a small section right now, maybe if it grows.
> 
> OT:
> I had issues with understanding MIBs and SNMP tools... specifically,
> I wanted to query and graph the pf-specific MIB... any suggested places
> to ask?  Do I ask on the Net-SNMP list, or is there a better place?
> 
> Also, cacti... seemed to behave differently based on whether the
> target was Linux-based or BSD-based... I suppose the cacti-users is
> the right place to ask, but if anyone has any suggestions, please LMK.
> I hate the UI.
> -- 
> My emails do not have attachments; it's a digital signature that your mail
> program doesn't understand. | http://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/ 
> If you are a spammer, please email j...@subspacefield.org to get blacklisted.

on network monitoring and security - req for monitoring tools

[travis+ml-nanog]

Hi, I'm putting together a book on security*, and wanted some expert
input onto network monitoring solutions...

http://www.subspacefield.org/security/security_concepts.html

Nagios, Net-SNMP, ifgraph, cacti, OpenNMS... any others?

Any summaries of when one is better than the other?

Any suggestions on section 13-15?  I imagine I'll offend some of you
by not distinguishing between system and network adminsitration,
but... it's a small section right now, maybe if it grows.

OT:
I had issues with understanding MIBs and SNMP tools... specifically,
I wanted to query and graph the pf-specific MIB... any suggested places
to ask?  Do I ask on the Net-SNMP list, or is there a better place?

Also, cacti... seemed to behave differently based on whether the
target was Linux-based or BSD-based... I suppose the cacti-users is
the right place to ask, but if anyone has any suggestions, please LMK.
I hate the UI.
-- 
My emails do not have attachments; it's a digital signature that your mail
program doesn't understand. | http://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/ 
If you are a spammer, please email j...@subspacefield.org to get blacklisted.


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Re: Monitoring Tools

[Adam Armstrong]

On 19/08/2010 10:23, jacob miller wrote:

Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
different views for different users.


You could try our mildly unconventional NMS project :

http://www.observium.org

We try to focus on collection and presentation of information. We have 
the ability to have different views for different users (commonly used 
to give customers access to certain devices/ports).


We're by no means feature complete for your requirements, but if you've 
good ideas for features we might be able to implement them for you.


adam.

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Julien Gormotte]

Le 19/08/2010 11:23, jacob miller a écrit :

Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
different views for different users.

Regards,Jacob
   


Hello,

Maybe nagvis could be what you need ?

Julien

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Jeremy Kister]

On 8/19/2010 5:23 AM, jacob miller wrote:

Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
different views for different users.



http://argus.tcp4me.com

in your ~argus/data/users file (or equivalent) specify
 

for example, for an admin (root) type user:
adminasdfasdfasdf1   Top root

or, for someone who only gets a partial view:
acme qwerqwerqwer1   Top:custs:acme  acme



see http://argus.tcp4me.com/users.html

--

Jeremy Kister
http://jeremy.kister.net./

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Warren Kumari]

On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote:

> jacob miller (mmzinyi) writes:
>> Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
>> different views for different users.
>> 
> 
>Hi Jacob,
> 
>What kind of network monitoring ?  Bandwidth utilization, service
>availability, RTT, statistics data collection, ... ?
> 
>There are tons of open source software tools out there:
> 
>Nagios (www.nagios.org)
>Zabbix (www.zabbix.com)
>OpenNMS (www.opennms.org)
>ZenOSS (www.zenoss.com)
>SmokePing (http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/)
>Cacti (www.cacti.netl)
>NetFlow Dashboard (http://trac.netflowdashboard.com/netflowdashboard/)
>NFSen (http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/)
> 
> 
>etc...
> 
>Depends on what you want to achieve!

Yes, yes it does...

This is a (dated, but still good) introduction that you might want to read: 
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog26/presentations/stephen.pdf

Joe Abley and Stephen Stuart from NANOG26!

W

> 
>Cheers,
>Phil
> 
> 

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Carlos M. Martinez]

On 8/19/2010 5:36 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote:

>>
> But the configuration learning curve for SNMP is very steep indeed.
> 
> --Curtis
> 
> 

For some esoteric topics (dynamic tables, AgentX) this might be true,
however, you can get 80% of the benefit of SNMP with 20% of the whole thing.

It's a query/response protocol with a tree-based data model. That's it.

warm regards

Carlos

Re: RE: Monitoring Tools

[Michael Osburn]

Vendor MIBs are the worst part of any new monitoring project. It is made
even worse when they change them ever so slightly during an upgrade making
your free disk space show as -2tb...

On Aug 19, 2010 3:47 PM, "Scott Berkman"  wrote:
> Agreed. And it REALLY isn't that complicated. Go spend some time with
> CORBA or TL-1 and then re-evaluate the learning curve.
>
> SNMP is really very straight forward as a protocol. If a specific vendor's
> MIB is difficult to understand or use, that is an entirely different
matter.
>
> -Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Regnauld [mailto:regna...@nsrc.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:14 PM
> To: Curtis Maurand
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
>
> Curtis Maurand (cmaurand) writes:
>> > Oh, and it avoided us having to install an agent on 1000+ servers :)
>> >
>> But the configuration learning curve for SNMP is very steep indeed.
>
> Doing network monitoring and not understanding SNMP is like,
> umm, well I fail to come up with an analogy, but you get my drift.
>
> :)
>
> It's a bullet you'll have to bite at one point.
>
>
>

RE: Monitoring Tools

[Scott Berkman]

Agreed.  And it REALLY isn't that complicated.  Go spend some time with
CORBA or TL-1 and then re-evaluate the learning curve.

SNMP is really very straight forward as a protocol.  If a specific vendor's
MIB is difficult to understand or use, that is an entirely different matter.

-Scott

-Original Message-
From: Phil Regnauld [mailto:regna...@nsrc.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:14 PM
To: Curtis Maurand
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools

Curtis Maurand (cmaurand) writes:
> > Oh, and it avoided us having to install an agent on 1000+ servers :)
> >
> But the configuration learning curve for SNMP is very steep indeed.

Doing network monitoring and not understanding SNMP is like,
umm, well I fail to come up with an analogy, but you get my drift.

:)

It's a bullet you'll have to bite at one point.

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Phil Regnauld]

Curtis Maurand (cmaurand) writes:
> > Oh, and it avoided us having to install an agent on 1000+ servers :)
> >
> But the configuration learning curve for SNMP is very steep indeed.

Doing network monitoring and not understanding SNMP is like,
umm, well I fail to come up with an analogy, but you get my drift.

:)

It's a bullet you'll have to bite at one point.

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Curtis Maurand]

 On 8/19/2010 4:23 PM, Phil Regnauld wrote:



While developing our own monitoring product, we've had to deal with
various constraints from the customer side, for instance pharmaceutical
companies where there was no way installing an agent on PLC machines 
would
pass internal audit, without having the entire system re-validated 
(we're
talking FDA-validated medication production here).


But often, SNMPD ships with or is available as an optional base
component (Windows, most UNIXes) and it's easier to convince the IT
suits.  Go figure.

Oh, and it avoided us having to install an agent on 1000+ servers :)


But the configuration learning curve for SNMP is very steep indeed.

--Curtis

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Phil Regnauld]

Nathan Eisenberg (nathan) writes:
> It hasn't really changed. Almost every monitoring package I've found
> where you want to monitor something like 'disk space free on /' requires
> a daemon of some sort on the host - whether that's SNMPD or their agent.

Anything else than SNMP is a hassle (IMHO).

I understand the idea of having a dedicated agent for some hosts -
Windows for instance, when querying the WMI - and often it's the only
way for a vendor to have a predictable, verified  element in the greater
scheme (the network).

But in most cases, monitoring can be achieved by extending the SNMP mib,
and using and custom scripts that will report on mail queue size, 
in-house
application status, etc...

> FWIW, I have had their agent running on many, many servers over the
> years - it has never caused me a moment of heartache (for safety's sake,
> iptables restricts who can talk to the agent, which has its own control
> mechanism built in to define who it will talk to, and it runs as a
> restricted user, just in case).


While developing our own monitoring product, we've had to deal with
various constraints from the customer side, for instance pharmaceutical
companies where there was no way installing an agent on PLC machines 
would
pass internal audit, without having the entire system re-validated 
(we're
talking FDA-validated medication production here).


But often, SNMPD ships with or is available as an optional base
component (Windows, most UNIXes) and it's easier to convince the IT
suits.  Go figure.

Oh, and it avoided us having to install an agent on 1000+ servers :)

Cheers,
Phil

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Mike Gatti]

Looking at ZenOSS to compliment our OpenView NNM system. 
So far has been pretty simple to get up and running and the 
support community is pretty responsive to questions.

We have cacti in our environment and it works great for pulling 
bandwidth, CPU, interface errors, mem utilization. the reportit plugin
in particular is great for reporting bandwidth utilization for business hours. 


--
Mike



On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Scott Berkman wrote:

> The last time I looked, my main issue with Zabbix was that it required (or
> greatly preferred) their proprietary agent on every host.  This may have
> changed.
> 
>   -Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Eisenberg [mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Monitoring Tools
> 
>> Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to
> create
>> different views for different users.
>> 
>> Regards,Jacob
>> 
> 
> Just to add another opinion to the pot, I've used zabbix in several large
> environments, and I like it a lot.  The developer team is decently sized,
> and very responsive to requests and feedback (they operate a commercial
> 'support' model for the platform, so working on the system is literally
> their day job - as George pointed out, this is often a problem).
> 
> Zabbix also supports distributed monitoring, which is very handy for scaling
> or for monitoring multiple locations without dealing with VPNS and the like
> (or if you have places you need to monitor behind NATs!).  Its major
> weakness at the moment is the weak support for SNMP traps (works great in
> polling mode, though), so you will want a separate simple system for
> catching traps.  In my opinion, that's just fine, because
> statistics/trending/basic resource alerting/etc are best kept separate from
> things like "OMG one of my powersupplies is dead!!11one".
> 
> Also supports IPMI, which is nice if you have IPMI deployed.  :-)
> 
> Best Regards,
> Nathan Eisenberg
> 
> 
> 
> 

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
Michael Gatti  
cell.703.347.4412
ekim.it...@gmail.com
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RE: Monitoring Tools

[Nathan Eisenberg]

It hasn't really changed.  Almost every monitoring package I've found where you 
want to monitor something like 'disk space free on /' requires a daemon of some 
sort on the host - whether that's SNMPD or their agent.  FWIW, I have had their 
agent running on many, many servers over the years - it has never caused me a 
moment of heartache (for safety's sake, iptables restricts who can talk to the 
agent, which has its own control mechanism built in to define who it will talk 
to, and it runs as a restricted user, just in case).  

If you don't want to use their agent, you can monitor hosts via SNMP (if you 
run snmpd on your servers) or via server-side checks (is 80 listening?  Does 
the site at http://www.google.com contain "I'm feeling lucky"?  Can I ping 
4.2.2.2?  Etc...).

However, the OP was about monitoring network environments (which I took to mean 
routers/switches/firewalls/blah, not hosts).  These devices typically speak 
SNMP, so $MonitoringSolution will just talk SNMP to it, and you don't have to 
worry about any agents.  :-)

-Nathan

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Berkman [mailto:sc...@sberkman.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:03 PM
> To: Nathan Eisenberg; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Monitoring Tools
> 
> The last time I looked, my main issue with Zabbix was that it required (or
> greatly preferred) their proprietary agent on every host.  This may have
> changed.
> 
>   -Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Eisenberg [mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Monitoring Tools
> 
> > Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to
> create
> > different views for different users.
> >
> > Regards,Jacob
> >
> 
> Just to add another opinion to the pot, I've used zabbix in several large
> environments, and I like it a lot.  The developer team is decently sized, and 
> very
> responsive to requests and feedback (they operate a commercial 'support'
> model for the platform, so working on the system is literally their day job - 
> as
> George pointed out, this is often a problem).
> 
> Zabbix also supports distributed monitoring, which is very handy for scaling 
> or
> for monitoring multiple locations without dealing with VPNS and the like (or 
> if
> you have places you need to monitor behind NATs!).  Its major weakness at the
> moment is the weak support for SNMP traps (works great in polling mode,
> though), so you will want a separate simple system for catching traps.  In my
> opinion, that's just fine, because statistics/trending/basic resource 
> alerting/etc
> are best kept separate from things like "OMG one of my powersupplies is
> dead!!11one".
> 
> Also supports IPMI, which is nice if you have IPMI deployed.  :-)
> 
> Best Regards,
> Nathan Eisenberg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Monitoring Tools

[Scott Berkman]

The last time I looked, my main issue with Zabbix was that it required (or
greatly preferred) their proprietary agent on every host.  This may have
changed.

-Scott

-Original Message-
From: Nathan Eisenberg [mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:53 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Monitoring Tools

> Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to
create
> different views for different users.
> 
> Regards,Jacob
> 

Just to add another opinion to the pot, I've used zabbix in several large
environments, and I like it a lot.  The developer team is decently sized,
and very responsive to requests and feedback (they operate a commercial
'support' model for the platform, so working on the system is literally
their day job - as George pointed out, this is often a problem).

Zabbix also supports distributed monitoring, which is very handy for scaling
or for monitoring multiple locations without dealing with VPNS and the like
(or if you have places you need to monitor behind NATs!).  Its major
weakness at the moment is the weak support for SNMP traps (works great in
polling mode, though), so you will want a separate simple system for
catching traps.  In my opinion, that's just fine, because
statistics/trending/basic resource alerting/etc are best kept separate from
things like "OMG one of my powersupplies is dead!!11one".

Also supports IPMI, which is nice if you have IPMI deployed.  :-)

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg

RE: Monitoring Tools

[Nathan Eisenberg]

> Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create
> different views for different users.
> 
> Regards,Jacob
> 

Just to add another opinion to the pot, I've used zabbix in several large 
environments, and I like it a lot.  The developer team is decently sized, and 
very responsive to requests and feedback (they operate a commercial 'support' 
model for the platform, so working on the system is literally their day job - 
as George pointed out, this is often a problem).

Zabbix also supports distributed monitoring, which is very handy for scaling or 
for monitoring multiple locations without dealing with VPNS and the like (or if 
you have places you need to monitor behind NATs!).  Its major weakness at the 
moment is the weak support for SNMP traps (works great in polling mode, 
though), so you will want a separate simple system for catching traps.  In my 
opinion, that's just fine, because statistics/trending/basic resource 
alerting/etc are best kept separate from things like "OMG one of my 
powersupplies is dead!!11one".

Also supports IPMI, which is nice if you have IPMI deployed.  :-)

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg

RE: Monitoring Tools

[Justin Horstman]

> -Original Message-
> From: jacob miller [mailto:mmzi...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:36 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
> 
> Phil,
> 
> Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service
> and ability to create different logins to users so they can access diff
> objects
> 
> Thnks,
> 
> Jacob
> 


Cacti with the Monitor, Nectar plugins will accomplish what you are asking and 
is relatively simple to setup, but I'd throw in Phpweathermap, Quicktree, and 
Thold for giggles, additional monitoring and the ooshiney factor. Its fairly 
intuitive, but in large installations you will want to look at the autom8 
plugin to merely scan your subnets and add devices it finds per the rules you 
define.

~J

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Bryan Irvine]

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Scott Berkman  wrote:
> I'd recommend ZenOSS.
>
>        -Scott

+1

-B

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Paolo Lucente]

Too much widsom in just a single email

Paolo


On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 09:04:13AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: jacob miller 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:36 AM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
> > 
> > Phil,
> > 
> > Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service
> > and ability to create different logins to users so they can access
> diff
> > objects
> > 
> > Thnks,
> 
> Jacob,
> 
> I have not yet found a monitoring environment to my liking and I have
> seen most of them over the years.  That is a project that could keep
> someone busy for a decade or so (and is one of the things I might work
> on when I retire).  It seems that the more configurable they are, the
> less intuitive they are and more difficult to get configured properly.
> Many of the open source tools have only one or two active developers who
> also have lives outside the project and dealing with a flood of feature
> requests from the field can be more than they can reasonably
> accommodate. The commercial monitoring environments can be extremely
> expensive and very difficult to configure.  More important than
> configuring them is maintaining that configuration over time as things
> change.  I have seen many monitoring environments installed and
> configured only to become somewhat useless and disused over time as the
> configuration isn't kept up to date.
> 
> Good luck in your search but in my experience it generally comes down to
> putting together a hodge-podge of various tools that give a specific
> operation the information it needs as those needs vary from one
> operation to the next.
> 
> One problem, too, with these tools is that they often collect duplicate
> information.  It would be nice to have some common collector/store so
> that other tools can pull the information out of that store.  Why have
> three different tools querying snmp stats from the same devices? Having
> one collector and sharing the data would be a better approach.  There is
> an attempt to consolidate various open source tools in a common
> framework called GroundWorks.  They aren't completely there yet but I
> believe they are pointed in the right direction.
> 
> 
> George
> 
>  
> 
> 

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Carlos Vicente]

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> One problem, too, with these tools is that they often collect duplicate
> information.  It would be nice to have some common collector/store so
> that other tools can pull the information out of that store.  Why have
> three different tools querying snmp stats from the same devices? Having
> one collector and sharing the data would be a better approach.  There is
> an attempt to consolidate various open source tools in a common
> framework called GroundWorks.  They aren't completely there yet but I
> believe they are pointed in the right direction.

One approach to this problem is to use an independent device inventory
database which can be used to feed configurations to all the necessary
tools. This is what we've done at U. of Oregon with Netdot. See:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/presentations/Tuesday/Vicente-netdot-presentation-nanog49.pdf

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RE: Monitoring Tools

[George Bonser]

> -Original Message-
> From: jacob miller 
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:36 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
> 
> Phil,
> 
> Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service
> and ability to create different logins to users so they can access
diff
> objects
> 
> Thnks,

Jacob,

I have not yet found a monitoring environment to my liking and I have
seen most of them over the years.  That is a project that could keep
someone busy for a decade or so (and is one of the things I might work
on when I retire).  It seems that the more configurable they are, the
less intuitive they are and more difficult to get configured properly.
Many of the open source tools have only one or two active developers who
also have lives outside the project and dealing with a flood of feature
requests from the field can be more than they can reasonably
accommodate. The commercial monitoring environments can be extremely
expensive and very difficult to configure.  More important than
configuring them is maintaining that configuration over time as things
change.  I have seen many monitoring environments installed and
configured only to become somewhat useless and disused over time as the
configuration isn't kept up to date.

Good luck in your search but in my experience it generally comes down to
putting together a hodge-podge of various tools that give a specific
operation the information it needs as those needs vary from one
operation to the next.

One problem, too, with these tools is that they often collect duplicate
information.  It would be nice to have some common collector/store so
that other tools can pull the information out of that store.  Why have
three different tools querying snmp stats from the same devices? Having
one collector and sharing the data would be a better approach.  There is
an attempt to consolidate various open source tools in a common
framework called GroundWorks.  They aren't completely there yet but I
believe they are pointed in the right direction.


George

 

RE: Monitoring Tools

[Scott Berkman]

I'd recommend ZenOSS.

-Scott

-Original Message-
From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:47 AM
To: jacob miller
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools

jacob miller wrote:
> Phil,
> 
> Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service and
ability to create different logins to users so they can access diff objects

For all in one, OpenNMS does decent and may meet your needs. We often 
utilize a mixture of tools and modify for working with what we want. My 
only issue with OpenNMS was that it's java and I don't care to add java 
to the list of languages I program in. My only complaint was it could 
get really weird when you have 3,000 unnumbered interfaces. :)


Jack

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Roy]

 On 8/19/2010 4:36 AM, jacob miller wrote:

Phil,

Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service and 
ability to create different logins to users so they can access diff objects

Thnks,

Jacob

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Phil Regnauld  wrote:


From: Phil Regnauld
Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
To: "jacob miller"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:23 AM
jacob miller (mmzinyi) writes:

Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool

with ability to create different views for different users.
 Hi Jacob,

 What kind of network monitoring ? 
Bandwidth utilization, service

 availability, RTT, statistics data
collection, ... ?

 There are tons of open source software tools
out there:

 Nagios (www.nagios.org)
 Zabbix (www.zabbix.com)
 OpenNMS (www.opennms.org)
 ZenOSS (www.zenoss.com)
 SmokePing (http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/)
 Cacti (www.cacti.netl)
 NetFlow Dashboard (http://trac.netflowdashboard.com/netflowdashboard/)
 NFSen (http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/)


 etc...

 Depends on what you want to achieve!

 Cheers,
 Phil



Opsview.  http://www.opsview.com

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Jack Bates]

jacob miller wrote:

Phil,

Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service and 
ability to create different logins to users so they can access diff objects


For all in one, OpenNMS does decent and may meet your needs. We often 
utilize a mixture of tools and modify for working with what we want. My 
only issue with OpenNMS was that it's java and I don't care to add java 
to the list of languages I program in. My only complaint was it could 
get really weird when you have 3,000 unnumbered interfaces. :)



Jack

Re: Monitoring Tools

[jacob miller]

Phil,

Am looking for availability reports,bandwidth usage,alerting service and 
ability to create different logins to users so they can access diff objects

Thnks,

Jacob

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Phil Regnauld  wrote:

> From: Phil Regnauld 
> Subject: Re: Monitoring Tools
> To: "jacob miller" 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 3:23 AM
> jacob miller (mmzinyi) writes:
> > Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool
> with ability to create different views for different users.
> > 
> 
>     Hi Jacob,
> 
>     What kind of network monitoring ? 
> Bandwidth utilization, service
>     availability, RTT, statistics data
> collection, ... ?
> 
>     There are tons of open source software tools
> out there:
> 
>     Nagios (www.nagios.org)
>     Zabbix (www.zabbix.com)
>     OpenNMS (www.opennms.org)
>     ZenOSS (www.zenoss.com)
>     SmokePing (http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/)
>     Cacti (www.cacti.netl)
>     NetFlow Dashboard (http://trac.netflowdashboard.com/netflowdashboard/)
>     NFSen (http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/)
> 
> 
>     etc...
> 
>     Depends on what you want to achieve!
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Phil
> 
> 

Re: Monitoring Tools

[Phil Regnauld]

jacob miller (mmzinyi) writes:
> Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
> different views for different users.
> 

Hi Jacob,

What kind of network monitoring ?  Bandwidth utilization, service
availability, RTT, statistics data collection, ... ?

There are tons of open source software tools out there:

Nagios (www.nagios.org)
Zabbix (www.zabbix.com)
OpenNMS (www.opennms.org)
ZenOSS (www.zenoss.com)
SmokePing (http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/)
Cacti (www.cacti.netl)
NetFlow Dashboard (http://trac.netflowdashboard.com/netflowdashboard/)
NFSen (http://nfsen.sourceforge.net/)


etc...

Depends on what you want to achieve!

Cheers,
Phil

Monitoring Tools

[jacob miller]

Am looking for an opensource network monitoring tool with ability to create 
different views for different users.

Regards,Jacob 


  

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Seth Mattinen]

On 7/31/10 12:20 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:04:16 +0800, Diogo Montagner said:
>> This was the best compilation that I found before. Unfortunately, this
>> presentation is a little bit old (2006). I am supposing that most of
>> commercial tools have improved your IPv6 support.
> 
> Dunno.  Were the customers pressuring the vendors to improve the IPv6 support,
> or were they letting it slide because they didn't plan to deploy IPv6 till 
> 2012
> or so? ;)
> 

Personally, I stopped pressuring vendors that didn't support IPv6,
preferring to drop the completely and pick up one with equal or better
service who did. Sometimes this was easy, sometimes it was exceedingly
difficult. In every case when they asked why I said it was the lack of
IPv6 support because I've been running a dual stack network for years,
not as part of some future plan.

~Seth

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Valdis . Kletnieks]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:04:16 +0800, Diogo Montagner said:
> This was the best compilation that I found before. Unfortunately, this
> presentation is a little bit old (2006). I am supposing that most of
> commercial tools have improved your IPv6 support.

Dunno.  Were the customers pressuring the vendors to improve the IPv6 support,
or were they letting it slide because they didn't plan to deploy IPv6 till 2012
or so? ;)



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Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Diogo Montagner]

Hi,

thanks for the link.

This was the best compilation that I found before. Unfortunately, this
presentation is a little bit old (2006). I am supposing that most of
commercial tools have improved your IPv6 support.

Thanks
./diogo -montagner



On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, nanogf .  wrote:
> https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.6diss.org/tutorials/management.pdf
>
>
> http://tools.6net.org/
>
>
> --- diogo.montag...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> From: Diogo Montagner 
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:06:31 +0800
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
> am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.
>
> Please, do you know what network management system are already
> supporting IPv6 ?
>
> Thanks
> ./diogo -montagner
>
>
>
>
>
> _
> Get your own *free* email address like this one from www.OwnEmail.com
>

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[nanogf .]

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.6diss.org/tutorials/management.pdf


http://tools.6net.org/


--- diogo.montag...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Diogo Montagner 
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:06:31 +0800

Hello,

I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.

Please, do you know what network management system are already
supporting IPv6 ?

Thanks
./diogo -montagner





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Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Diogo Montagner]

Yes. This one. But also looking for IPv6 support for tools like
OpenView, Infovista, Concord eHealth.

Thanks
./diogo -montagner



On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Patrick Darden  wrote:
>
> I think he was looking for something more in the nature of network
> monitoring/analysis systems that support IPv6, like NTOP.
>
> ntop has been ported to ipv6--although I am unsure of the results.
>  http://www.ntop.org/trac/wiki/ntop
> cold is a snffer/analyzer with ipv6 support.
>  http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/2000-August/003161.html
> wireshark is a fantastic sniffer/analyzer, and it supports ipv6.
>  http://wiki.wireshark.org/
> snoop comes with Solaris 10, and it supports ipv6.
>  http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4554/gexky?a=view
> tracepath6 and traceroute6 come with the iptraf package for linux.
> ethereal has a non-commercial version.  http://www.ethereal.com/
> iperf lets you simply monitor ipv6 tcp/udp performance.
>  http://dast.nlanr.net/projects/Iperf/
> mtr uses traceroute and ping, http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/
> nagios is a host/server/service monitoring tool. http://www.nagios.org/
> weathermap creates a visual network diagram showing health.
>  http://netmon.grnet.gr/weathermap/
>
> Is this what you wanted?
> --p
>
> On 07/30/2010 05:45 AM, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
>>> am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.
>>>
>>> Please, do you know what network management system are already
>>> supporting IPv6 ?
>>
>> we keep the list in the "LIR Handbook" (page #64)
>> http://www.ripe.net/training/material/LIR-Training-Course/LIR-Handbook.pdf
>>
>> here is a list of some of the "free" (and/or open source) tools:
>>
>> # IPAT (IP Allocation Tool)   http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat
>> # NetDot     https://netdot.uoregon.edu/trac/
>> # HaCi     http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/
>> # FreeIPdb      http://home.globalcrossing.net/~freeipdb/
>> # Infoblox IPAM Freeware
>> http://www.infoblox.com/services/infoblox-ipam-freeware.cfm
>>
>> Following tools do not support IPv6 yet, but is in the list of planned
>> features:
>> IPplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/
>> TIPP http://tipp.tobez.org/ & http://github.com/tobez/tipp
>> ONA (OpenNetAdmin) http://opennetadmin.com/
>>
>> Commercial IP Address Management (IPAM) Tools with IPv6 support
>> In alphabetic order:
>>
>> Alcatel-Lucent VitalQIP DNS/DHCP IP Management Software & Appliance
>> Bluecat Networks / Proteus Enterprise IPAM Appliance
>> BT Diamond IP - IPControl(TM) Sapphyre Appliances
>> BT Diamond – IPControl(TM) Software
>> Crypton UK - EasyIP(TM)
>> Incognito / Address Commander(TM)
>> Infoblox IPAM Express™ Solution
>> Internet Associates IPal
>> Men & Mice Suite: IPAM management module
>> Nixu NameSurfer Suite
>>
>> Other related commercial products that also support IPv6:
>>
>> EMC Ionix IPv6 Availability Manager
>> NetCracker (Operational Support Systems or OSS) tool
>> OPNET IT Guru (R) Network Planner
>>
>> These lists are for information purposes only and are not necessarily
>> complete. RIPE NCC does not recommend any of them.
>>
>> There will be an article on RIPE Labs soon covering this in more detail...
>>
>> http://labs.ripe.net
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vesna Manojlovic
>> RIPE NCC Trainer
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Patrick Darden]

I think he was looking for something more in the nature of network 
monitoring/analysis systems that support IPv6, like NTOP.


ntop has been ported to ipv6--although I am unsure of the results.  
http://www.ntop.org/trac/wiki/ntop
cold is a snffer/analyzer with ipv6 support.  
http://mailman.isi.edu/pipermail/6bone/2000-August/003161.html
wireshark is a fantastic sniffer/analyzer, and it supports ipv6.  
http://wiki.wireshark.org/
snoop comes with Solaris 10, and it supports ipv6.  
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4554/gexky?a=view

tracepath6 and traceroute6 come with the iptraf package for linux.
ethereal has a non-commercial version.  http://www.ethereal.com/
iperf lets you simply monitor ipv6 tcp/udp performance.  
http://dast.nlanr.net/projects/Iperf/

mtr uses traceroute and ping, http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/
nagios is a host/server/service monitoring tool. http://www.nagios.org/
weathermap creates a visual network diagram showing health.  
http://netmon.grnet.gr/weathermap/


Is this what you wanted?
--p

On 07/30/2010 05:45 AM, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:

Hi,


I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.

Please, do you know what network management system are already
supporting IPv6 ?


we keep the list in the "LIR Handbook" (page #64)
http://www.ripe.net/training/material/LIR-Training-Course/LIR-Handbook.pdf 



here is a list of some of the "free" (and/or open source) tools:

# IPAT (IP Allocation Tool)   http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat
# NetDot https://netdot.uoregon.edu/trac/
# HaCi http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/
# FreeIPdb  http://home.globalcrossing.net/~freeipdb/
# Infoblox IPAM Freeware 
http://www.infoblox.com/services/infoblox-ipam-freeware.cfm


Following tools do not support IPv6 yet, but is in the list of planned 
features:

IPplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/
TIPP http://tipp.tobez.org/ & http://github.com/tobez/tipp
ONA (OpenNetAdmin) http://opennetadmin.com/

Commercial IP Address Management (IPAM) Tools with IPv6 support
In alphabetic order:

Alcatel-Lucent VitalQIP DNS/DHCP IP Management Software & Appliance
Bluecat Networks / Proteus Enterprise IPAM Appliance
BT Diamond IP - IPControl(TM) Sapphyre Appliances
BT Diamond – IPControl(TM) Software
Crypton UK - EasyIP(TM)
Incognito / Address Commander(TM)
Infoblox IPAM Express™ Solution
Internet Associates IPal
Men & Mice Suite: IPAM management module
Nixu NameSurfer Suite

Other related commercial products that also support IPv6:

EMC Ionix IPv6 Availability Manager
NetCracker (Operational Support Systems or OSS) tool
OPNET IT Guru (R) Network Planner

These lists are for information purposes only and are not necessarily 
complete. RIPE NCC does not recommend any of them.


There will be an article on RIPE Labs soon covering this in more 
detail...


http://labs.ripe.net

Regards,
Vesna Manojlovic
RIPE NCC Trainer

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Vesna Manojlovic]

Hi,


I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.

Please, do you know what network management system are already
supporting IPv6 ?


we keep the list in the "LIR Handbook" (page #64)
http://www.ripe.net/training/material/LIR-Training-Course/LIR-Handbook.pdf

here is a list of some of the "free" (and/or open source) tools:

# IPAT (IP Allocation Tool)   http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat
# NetDot https://netdot.uoregon.edu/trac/
# HaCi http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/
# FreeIPdb  http://home.globalcrossing.net/~freeipdb/
# Infoblox IPAM Freeware 
http://www.infoblox.com/services/infoblox-ipam-freeware.cfm


Following tools do not support IPv6 yet, but is in the list of planned 
features:

IPplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/
TIPP http://tipp.tobez.org/ & http://github.com/tobez/tipp
ONA (OpenNetAdmin) http://opennetadmin.com/

Commercial IP Address Management (IPAM) Tools with IPv6 support
In alphabetic order:

Alcatel-Lucent VitalQIP DNS/DHCP IP Management Software & Appliance
Bluecat Networks / Proteus Enterprise IPAM Appliance
BT Diamond IP - IPControl(TM) Sapphyre Appliances
BT Diamond – IPControl(TM) Software
Crypton UK - EasyIP(TM)
Incognito / Address Commander(TM)
Infoblox IPAM Express™ Solution
Internet Associates IPal
Men & Mice Suite: IPAM management module
Nixu NameSurfer Suite

Other related commercial products that also support IPv6:

EMC Ionix IPv6 Availability Manager
NetCracker (Operational Support Systems or OSS) tool
OPNET IT Guru (R) Network Planner

These lists are for information purposes only and are not necessarily 
complete. RIPE NCC does not recommend any of them.


There will be an article on RIPE Labs soon covering this in more detail...

http://labs.ripe.net

Regards,
Vesna Manojlovic
RIPE NCC Trainer

Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

[Diogo Montagner]

Hello,

I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I
am looking for both freeware and commercial tools.

Please, do you know what network management system are already
supporting IPv6 ?

Thanks
./diogo -montagner

Re: Network performance monitoring tools

[Shane Ronan]

OpenNMS has a good tool called Strafeping that is based on Smokeping  
that is integrated into the overall system.



On May 8, 2009, at 3:57 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

Jitter (e.g. variability in one way or rtt) smokeping is rather good  
at

measuring...

The question is do you want to instrument the phenomena through active
measurement as smokeping is doing or do you have some application  
(e.g.
streaming media as an example) that you'd like to instrument because  
the

later may be more d

Re: Network performance monitoring tools

[Joel Jaeggli]

Jitter (e.g. variability in one way or rtt) smokeping is rather good at
measuring...

The question is do you want to instrument the phenomena through active
measurement as smokeping is doing or do you have some application (e.g.
streaming media as an example) that you'd like to instrument because the
later may be more descriptive of the overall service experience with
that application...

정치영 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could anyone recommend a free performance monitoring tool ?
> I am already using smokeping the best tool provides delay, packet loss and 
> graphical delay variation and so on.
> But, additionally I would like to periodically measure the jitter of multi 
> destinations.
> 
> Best regards
> Chiyoung
> =
>  Chi-Young Joung
>  SAMSUNG NETWORKS Inc.
>  Email: lion...@samsung.com
>  Tel +82 70 7015 0623, Mobile +82 17 520 9193
>  Fax +82 70 7016 0031
> =

Re: Network performance monitoring tools

[Robert E. Seastrom]

Á¤Ä¡¿µ  writes:

> Could anyone recommend a free performance monitoring tool ?  I am
> already using smokeping the best tool provides delay, packet loss
> and graphical delay variation and so on.  But, additionally I would
> like to periodically measure the jitter of multi destinations.

Are you by any chance the person who inquired on IRC a few days ago
about testing this for IPTV multicast?

-r

Network performance monitoring tools

[정치영]

Hi,

Could anyone recommend a free performance monitoring tool ?
I am already using smokeping the best tool provides delay, packet loss and 
graphical delay variation and so on.
But, additionally I would like to periodically measure the jitter of multi 
destinations.

Best regards
Chiyoung
=
 Chi-Young Joung
 SAMSUNG NETWORKS Inc.
 Email: lion...@samsung.com
 Tel +82 70 7015 0623, Mobile +82 17 520 9193
 Fax +82 70 7016 0031
=

Re: monitoring tools

[Bill Fenner]

On 10/30/07, Nesser, Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2.  Open Source Tools that you use or would recommend (I know the obvious 
> smokeping, mrtg, nagios).

I don't see netdisco mentioned in this space very much, but I
recommend it for the "what is plugged into what" question - both in an
enterprise environment ("where is this misbehaving MAC address?") and
a data center ("which port was that server plugged into on the
switch?").

  Bill

Re: monitoring tools

[Joe Loiacono]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/30/2007 04:59:05 PM:

> 2.  Open Source Tools that you use or would recommend (I know the 
> obvious smokeping, mrtg, nagios).

As mentioned, you can get alot of network information from netflow. There 
are several open-source options. One such for netflow collection/analysis 
is 'flow-tools' with 'FlowViewer'.

http://www.splintered.net/sw/flow-tools (original development)
http://code.google.com/p/flow-tools (active fork)

http://ensight.eos.nasa.gov/FlowViewer

Joe

Re: monitoring tools

[Roland Dobbins]

On Oct 31, 2007, at 3:59 AM, Nesser, Phil wrote:


1.  Serious documents on monitoring (i.e.  not vendor whitepapers)


Several NANOG presentations are available via VoD and preso files  
which discuss this subject, check the archives at nanog.org.  Besides  
the usual SNMP instrumentation, I would recommend taking a look at  
NetFlow and starting with an open-source tool like nfsen/nfdump.


---
Roland Dobbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> // 408.527.6376 voice

   I don't sound like nobody.

   -- Elvis Presley

Re: monitoring tools

[Phil Regnauld]

Nesser, Phil (nesser) writes:
> 
> It has been a while since I have had to seriously think about 
> network/system/application monitoring and now I have got to look at it.  Can 
> anyone point me towards:
> 
> 1.  Serious documents on monitoring (i.e.  not vendor whitepapers)

Hi Phil,

There's lots of different papers out there -- define serious.
Is an online column comparing monitoring systems serious enough ?
What focus ?  Best practices ?  Agent vs SNMP based, etc...  Topics
are varied.

> 2.  Open Source Tools that you use or would recommend (I know the obvious 
> smokeping, mrtg, nagios).

That can be a long thread as well...
Nagios, OpenNMS, Zabbix, Hyperic, ZenOSS - for the application/
service/server/network monitoring, and Cacti, Smokeping, NFsen
for capacity/availability monitoring.

We used Nagios and co. until a few years ago, when we figured it
wouldn't scale for large networks.  Then we wrote our own :)

Cheers,
Phil

monitoring tools

[Nesser, Phil]

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