[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie doctor needed.
> > ... failed tubes/valves: "outgassed"? ... below atmospheric pressure, > > ... more accurate term would be "ingassed" > > Do not expect logical terms ;-) Some time ago I actually found the > description for Nixie tubes are "neon filled vacuum tubes" on Ebay. > There are no words... > > Jens Hybrid cars, here in the US, are officially listed as "partial zero emission". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie doctor needed.
Hi AJ, BTW, on a related note, what is the origin of the term for failed tubes/valves: "outgassed"? Since the vast majority of them are sealed at well below atmospheric pressure, physics tells us that a more accurate term would be "ingassed" Do not expect logical terms ;-) Some time ago I actually found the description for Nixie tubes are "neon filled vacuum tubes" on Ebay. There are no words... Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Longines made a Nixie clock
Just when I thought I was convinced to take a crack at it, I go to the auction. Holy Scheisse. Over 610 now. In a message dated 10/27/2010 7:15:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, threeneur...@yahoo.com writes: > Just found it: > > http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200533766038 It comes with a fancy wooden box. Definitely a high end item. Then & now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Longines made a Nixie clock
> Just found it: > > http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200533766038 It comes with a fancy wooden box. Definitely a high end item. Then & now. I wonder if Longines actually sold it, or gave them away as gifts, but only to their best watch dealers. A prize to the top performers, awarded at the annual company convention. I'm also curious to see the technology used to make it. Most likely IC technology. But was it TTL, or earlier stuff, like DTL or RTL ? The ICs that existed it the 60s cost a pretty penny (at that time). Sure would like to see a photo of the insides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Longines made a Nixie clock - $
On Oct 27, 10:04 am, micha...@aol.com wrote: > Just watched the video, and wow. Thought I would get it. > > Checked ebay and saw that it is BID over 400 Euro already. > > Guess it's not going to be mine. Many big spenders out there. :( > > Michail Wilson > > In a message dated 10/27/2010 8:11:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > j...@croftj.net writes: > > http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200533766038 We've had a photo of one of those (scanned from a magazine) in the Yahoo archives for years, but this is the first I've heard of a real life encounter. My guess is that they're extremely rare, probably only being sold to wealthy watch-repair establishments. A.J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie doctor needed.
On Oct 27, 6:08 am, Shane Ellis wrote: > I moved up to a larger PICAXE, all is going well, except, I went to > two tubes, and the new tube is...well... sickly looking. I double, > and quintuple checked the connections, but as you will see in the > attached photos, something is wrong. Half the digits light up fine > 0-4, but 5-9, well, look terrible. they half light, and have bright > blue spots at several points on the digit. Bad tube? Internal short > in the tube? > Thanks everyone, and sorry if I post too much, my desire for > illuminated tubes is great! > Shane > > http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm286/mimewar/Nixie%20and%20progra... Two possibilities: cathode poisoning, and seal failure (very slow atmospheric intrusion). Unfortunately I suspect the latter is more likely. However, attempting depoisoning of the afflicted digits will cost nothing but time and a little electricity, whether it works or not. BTW, on a related note, what is the origin of the term for failed tubes/valves: "outgassed"? Since the vast majority of them are sealed at well below atmospheric pressure, physics tells us that a more accurate term would be "ingassed"! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Nancy who? Totally OT but who cares?
Excellent find! Thanks for posting the link :) On Oct 27, 1:37 pm, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: > On 27 Oct 2010, at 18:17, threeneurons wrote: > > > Joe, got a thing about Nancy Sinatra ? That picture is from the 60's, > > Now guys, I run the British Jukebox Owners' group on Yahoo. > > In the 1960s a French company called Scopitone made video jukeboxes > (sorry you US people, you were, like, sooo way behind the times). > Scopitones used 16mm film and equipment salvaged from aerial > reconnaissance aircraft. The films made for these jukeboxes remain a > valuable archive of 1960s musical history. > > Happily, I know three people with working Scopitone video jukeboxes > and yes, they all have an original copy of the famous Nancy Sinatra > Scopitone film. You cannot imagine the gay evenings we have had > imbibing a modest dandelion and burdock and enjoying the spectacle. > > You too can enjoy the same here: > > http://scopitones.blogs.com/scopitonescom/files/boots.mov > > 'nuff said, see how good I am to you? > > JS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nancy who? Totally OT but who cares?
On 27 Oct 2010, at 18:17, threeneurons wrote: Joe, got a thing about Nancy Sinatra ? That picture is from the 60's, Now guys, I run the British Jukebox Owners' group on Yahoo. In the 1960s a French company called Scopitone made video jukeboxes (sorry you US people, you were, like, sooo way behind the times). Scopitones used 16mm film and equipment salvaged from aerial reconnaissance aircraft. The films made for these jukeboxes remain a valuable archive of 1960s musical history. Happily, I know three people with working Scopitone video jukeboxes and yes, they all have an original copy of the famous Nancy Sinatra Scopitone film. You cannot imagine the gay evenings we have had imbibing a modest dandelion and burdock and enjoying the spectacle. You too can enjoy the same here: http://scopitones.blogs.com/scopitonescom/files/boots.mov 'nuff said, see how good I am to you? JS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Beckman Panaplex SP-352 heaters ?
Anyone here can identify the driver chips ? They are marked: Q10584-01 Datecode 9409 so not THAT old. Guess that they may be custom made for Gilbarco, since the pump they sit in is used for pumping gasoline, and then the components on the PCB are Ex-approved maybe ? // Per. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Longines made a Nixie clock
On Oct 27, 6:04 pm, jb-electronics wrote: > Hmm, a little pricy though. 400EUR for just seven standard (probably > ZM1182 style) tubes.. You really have to love this kind of clock and > design to spend so much on it. Depends on what you collect - When I can, I also collect hand-made watches by a well-known long-established Swiss maker (probably not the one you may be thinking of though). There are people there who are very well off indeed and will buy anything associated with their favourite fabricators, marketing info included. Cheers Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Longines made a Nixie clock
Just found it: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200533766038 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie doctor needed.
Konstantin is a cruel doctor ;-) Shane: What kind of driver do you use, by the way? All the best, Jens Hi Shane I would say yout tube is dying or you have used wrong pin for anode... Best regards, Konstantin www.kosbo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie doctor needed.
Hi Shane I would say yout tube is dying or you have used wrong pin for anode... Best regards, Konstantin www.kosbo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie doctor needed.
IN-14, very good! I connected the second tube the same way I connected the first, and the other tube works fine. I coded the second tube the same as the first, and I get all this blobbiness, and blue spots. I'll check voltages, and report back. Shane On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:17 AM, jb-electronics wrote: > Hello Shane, > > hmm, maybe the driver does not work well enough? If the digits that are > supposed to be "off" have a potential that is near ground, they might light > up. Check the voltage on the faulty digits accross ground. > > My first guess was - without seeing the pictures - that you had tried to > drive a biquinary Nixie tube as a normal one. Biquinary Nixie tubes have 0 > and 1, 2 and 3, 4 and 5, you know, all even and odd numbers connected in > parallel with two anodes. This way they have a standard noval socket, but > require a different kind if handling. But it looks o me as though your tube > was an IN-14, right? > > Jens > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie doctor needed.
Hello Shane, hmm, maybe the driver does not work well enough? If the digits that are supposed to be "off" have a potential that is near ground, they might light up. Check the voltage on the faulty digits accross ground. My first guess was - without seeing the pictures - that you had tried to drive a biquinary Nixie tube as a normal one. Biquinary Nixie tubes have 0 and 1, 2 and 3, 4 and 5, you know, all even and odd numbers connected in parallel with two anodes. This way they have a standard noval socket, but require a different kind if handling. But it looks o me as though your tube was an IN-14, right? Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: power supplies, and your preferences
Adam, I love these for prototyping, but I want something more pleasing to the eye for the actual clock. Thanks Shane On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Steve wrote: > There's a pretty good run down here: > > http://www.tayloredge.com/storefront/SmartNixie/PSU/comparison.html > > Steve > > On Oct 26, 9:09 pm, Adam Jacobs wrote: > > I've been a big fan of Mike's MC34063 mk1.5 design for quite a while. > It's > > cheap (less than $5 in parts). It's simple to put together, not finicky > like > > the MAX1771's. It's also flexible. I understand that the tayloredge > drop-in > > switchers are very popular on this list, but for me, I just hate to see a > > piece of purchased PCB sitting on something that I designed.. It looks > out > > of place, and to me it kind of feels like "I couldn't figure out how to > do > > that part, so I bought a solution.".. Of course, that is only my > preference, > > others have their own favorites. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jon wrote: > > > > > On Oct 25, 8:37 pm, Shane Ellis wrote: > > > > what does everyone prefer for powering their clocks? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: power supplies, and your preferences
I agree with you. Aesthetically speaking, I like to build my own parts. For the prototyping purposes, I don't mind using others. I have the tayloredge HVPS, and love it. I'm a month or so away from my frist clock, and want to build my own HVPS. Where can I get some information on Mike's "MC34063 mk1.5" Sounds like a digikey order is in my future. Thanks Shane On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote: > I've been a big fan of Mike's MC34063 mk1.5 design for quite a while. It's > cheap (less than $5 in parts). It's simple to put together, not finicky like > the MAX1771's. It's also flexible. I understand that the tayloredge drop-in > switchers are very popular on this list, but for me, I just hate to see a > piece of purchased PCB sitting on something that I designed.. It looks out > of place, and to me it kind of feels like "I couldn't figure out how to do > that part, so I bought a solution.".. Of course, that is only my preference, > others have their own favorites. > > -Adam > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jon wrote: > >> >> >> On Oct 25, 8:37 pm, Shane Ellis wrote: >> > what does everyone prefer for powering their clocks? >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Nixie doctor needed.
I moved up to a larger PICAXE, all is going well, except, I went to two tubes, and the new tube is...well... sickly looking. I double, and quintuple checked the connections, but as you will see in the attached photos, something is wrong. Half the digits light up fine 0-4, but 5-9, well, look terrible. they half light, and have bright blue spots at several points on the digit. Bad tube? Internal short in the tube? Thanks everyone, and sorry if I post too much, my desire for illuminated tubes is great! Shane http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm286/mimewar/Nixie%20and%20programming/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: IN-9 usage hint sighting
On Oct 26, 9:31 pm, threeneurons wrote: > The IN-13 would be my preference, mainly because it only needs 4.5mA > full scale (versus 12mA for the IN-9). More controllable too if you're looking to do something elaborate with them, due to the priming electrode. However, the price of lower current consumption is a significantly dimmer display. Having built clocks with both, I ended up preferring the IN-9, despite the extra hassles. BTW, IN-9 come in two colours - orange and purple-pink (loosely characterised as neon and argon, though the colours are not quite right for pure fills of either). Has anyone bought from this seller and tested the tubes? Jon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
