Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

[Wayne de Geere III]

I’m down for two, more if it can be a generic data receiver and display, I have 
been wanting something like that, Burroughs nixie based  for a long, long time.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 08:24, Peter Doroba  wrote:
> Any luck moving the remaining merch? :-)
> 
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:07:20 PM UTC-5 Peter Doroba wrote:
>> Okay, count me in for a board.  Good luck with the training!  Seems we're 
>> into the same things just in different order.  I'm working on learning 
>> microcontroller programming and PCB design.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:39:29 AM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>>> Hi, Peter, very cool! I have my commercial and instrument ratings in rotary 
>>> aircraft (and am working on my commercial multi engine FW). Possibly ATP 
>>> one day - we’ll see!
>>> 
>>> Yes, all of what you are requesting can be done seamlessly, though it 
>>> requires a wifi network that you can connect to, to be available. Shouldn’t 
>>> be a problem if you live at an airport!
>>> 
>>> I have one other interested individual, but need one more in order to make 
>>> putting another batch in worthwhile (the $300 cost is near production cost, 
>>> so it’s a loss if I can’t sell at least of four of five). I will let you 
>>> know if that happens by email 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Mahdi
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 8:37 AM Peter Doroba  wrote:
 Great! I'd likely take you up on the code help offer.  I did start out as 
 an EE major in college but switched to Aeronautical Science when I got the 
 flying bug. :)  I'm a Spirit Airlines Captain and live on an airport so 
 the the METAR/TAF feature really speaks to me. LOL  Maybe a silly question 
 but the board can display the current date and time correct?  Can it be 
 configured to display both local and UTC  in turn?  Also, how often is the 
 WX data displayed?  Thanks!
 
 Pete
 
 On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:49:02 PM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
> Yes of course! Currently, it will immediately select the closest airport 
> based on longitude and latitude data, but it is very easy to adjust the 
> code to select a particular airport ID. I can help with that as needed. 
> The current code for TAF/METAR is attached for reference. If purchased, I 
> will adjust the code slightly, to support the ESP32 on the new boards. 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:55 PM Peter Doroba  wrote:
>> I'd be interested! Is the METAR and TAF feature standard? I assume the 
>> airport ID is customizable?
>> 
>> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 8:51:43 PM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am thinking about producing another batch of five B7971 
>>> clocks/displays (without tubes), and would like to know who might be 
>>> interested. 
>>> 
>>> Video of the clock/display in action: B7971 Dustoff IoT Board - YouTube
>>> 
>>> These new boards are outfitted with the improved ESP32s instead of 
>>> ESP8266s. This is my last run of B7971 boards for the foreseeable 
>>> future. The cost would be $300 + shipping. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you. 
>>> 
>>> Mahdi
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Re: [neonixie-l] NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...

[Wayne de Geere III]

I’ve got a handful of Nixisat and Nixichron clocks all of which could use 
modern GPS upgrades. My cylindrical acrylic Nixisat has been down for a few 
years because the original GPS board died, and it’s just been sitting in 
storage.

Is the firmware update from John Miktuk? What is the version?

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:10, Mitch  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Only a few Nixichron upgrades are left. I have three ready to go, and a few 
> more boards to be assembled. I may order more toward the end of the year, but 
> it won't be an ongoing business, for sure.
> 
> A new firmware release is ready. Some minor bugs were squashed, a few options 
> were added or changed, and most importantly, better tracking to the GPS. I'll 
> email the hex file to anyone who can flash it, or send the board back and 
> I'll do it for the cost of return shipping.
> 
> Next project is a Nixichron style case. I know a manufacturer that has large 
> CNC machines and the owner said it would not be a problem to make the cases. 
> We'll see. Talk is cheap, but they've come through before. A sample will be 
> ready in a few weeks. If it goes well, I'll make a version of the Zev clock 
> for it in both six and eight digit configurations. I won't offer kits, 
> probably just cases and boards. The MOQ on the cases will be 50-100 pieces. 
> Again this will not be an ongoing business, just a one time thing for fun.
> 
> Mitch

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Re: [neonixie-l] Make a clock, go to jail

[Wayne de Geere]

Mark Zuckerberg posted this today to Facebook:

"You’ve probably seen the story about Ahmed, the 14 year old student in Texas 
who built a clock and was arrested when he took it to school.
 
Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause, 
not arrest. The future belongs to people like Ahmed.
 
Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I'd love to meet you. Keep 
building."

I also asked my friends at BoingBoing to cover it as well:

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/making-while-brown-texas-scho.html?utm_source=moreatbb_medium=nextpost_campaign=nextpostthumbnails

And the school district doubled down, asking parents to report anything that 
scares them, assuming that to be smart young men of brown shade who are makers: 

http://www.irvingisd.net/cms/lib010/TX01917973/Centricity/Domain/9/ParentLetter_SuspiciousLookingItematMacArthur.pdf?utm_content=bufferfca92_medium=social_source=twitter.com_campaign=buffer

bb spoofs Apple in the garage history "Man of Syrian descent found in garage 
building what looks like a bomb" (the Apple I):

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/arab-looking-man-of-syrian-des.html

And President Obama invites boy who was arrested for making clock to the 
Whitehouse: 

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/16/president-obama-invites-the-bo.html

I'd say when the kid is compared to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak and the 
President of the U.S. Invites the kid, that the idiots who did this have 
effectively been spanked.

I'd think more about the kid's opportunity for a lawsuit for the false arrest 
and impingement to his character, the future lifetime of lost income, etc. by 
having his character assailed by Idocracy morons at the school and in the local 
law enforcement, etc etc.

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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 02:17, petehand  wrote:
> 
> Although nothing should surprise me by now about the insanity of the American 
> school system, this one touches a nerve. A kid - a young teenager - made a 
> clock of his own design, took it to school, and found himself in police 
> custody accused of making a fake terrorist bomb - a "movie bomb". Maybe it 
> wouldn't have happened if he'd used nixies instead of 7 segment displays, as 
> then the morons at his school might have asked him what it was instead of 
> instantly recognizing it as a deadly bomb like the ones they've seen in 
> Hollywood movies. Way to go, teachers, for discouraging him from ever doing 
> anything creative like that again.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

[Wayne de Geere III]

I was thinking of this as a buy for the tube value alone. Then give those tubes 
to Michael Barile who would make me a fantastic Barile/Thomas Nixisat derived 
clock or clocks with those tubes.

On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:38 PM, MichaelB badni...@badnixie.com wrote:

 Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are 
 so costly. My thoughts exactly!
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 12:10:27 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:
 Yep, thought so, sir Nick.  Seems a shame to drive these beauties any any 
 other way than direct drive. 
 
 Judging by the photos on Ebay, which show rather dim digits, I would guess 
 the tubes are multiplexed at their rated-current, which reduces brightness vs 
 direct-drive.
 I definitely would not boost the current to compensate for this; much safer 
 to make a new clock with direct-drive.
 
 Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are so 
 costly.
 
 
 3500 euros.definitely not in my budget even if I were to sell the other 6 
 tubes and attempt to justify it as a wedding-anniversary gift
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

[Wayne de Geere III]

Thanks for posting that. If nobody else is going to move on this, I think I 
want to. I don’t have any Z568/Z5680 clocks from anybody besides Jeff Thomas / 
Michael Barile. It will be such a nice addition to the collection.

wayneco

On Sep 4, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote:

 http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/301302736983 - comes with 6 spare tubes for 12 x 
 Z568M in total.
 
 Not my auction - nice clock (a bit solid for my personal tastes( with some 
 neat features - I like the little LCD with extra data.
 
 Nick
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Royworld

[Wayne de Geere]

LIKE!

I own three Nixisats. One cylinder, two wood base models. It was my first 
purchase from Jeff, the cylinder one, I bought it as my Christmas gift to me, 
Dec 25, 2003.

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 On Feb 2, 2014, at 2:53, Quixotic Nixotic nixci...@jsdesign.co.uk wrote:
 
 On 30 Jan 2014, at 22:01, Jeff Thomas wrote:
 
 On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:36:21 PM UTC-7, Nixcited delighted wrote:
 Anyone come across Royworld before? Modern beat combo - found them by 
 complete accident.
 
 Nice to see another NixiSat has surfaced.  For the newer members, the 
 NixiSat was my first commercial GPS referenced clock from 2002, and used 
 Z568 nixies.
 A image of the NixiSat in a cylindrical enclosure: 
 http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/nixisatc.html
 
 Regards, Jeff
 
 Again by accident, while looking for cheap cheesy singles for my jukeboxes, I 
 found copies of the UK band Royworld's 7 single on UK ebay for 99p plus 50p 
 UK postage. Cheap enough to throw at the cat and make the baby laugh.
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160879674281
 They have 7 copies available.
 
 $(KGrHqV,!hkE+323NeO,BQSn-HwFM!~~60_1.JPG
 
 Jeff might want one as a souvenir, just for the cover. Happy to blag some 
 copies and send them on to US at cost, if anyone is interested,
 
 John
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Re: [neonixie-l] Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

[Wayne de Geere]

Want. I have the dough, too. Just need a clock partner to get a monster clock 
running.

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On May 8, 2013, at 11:25, Dekatron42 martin.forsb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice auction: 
 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Extrem-selten-Rundfunk-Studio-Nixie-Uhr-mit-CD-47-GR-414-/350790354531?pt=R%C3%B6hrenhash=item51acbc0663
  but what price will it fetch?
  
 No connection to seller and not enough money to buy :(
  
 /Martin
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZX81 Nixie Clock

[Wayne de Geere]

OMG where did you get the old XT enclosure? I finally threw mine out in 2010, 
it had been in the garage since I got it in the early - mid 1980s.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:49 AM, J Forbes jforbnos...@selectric.org wrote:

 Looks good! Old computers are fun, they still do what they used to do when 
 they cost a lot, but now they're cheap and we can discuss them on the 
 internet
 
  I cheated on my vintage computer nixie clockI used one of David's old 
 kits, and just stuck it into an early IBM case (which also houses our media 
 computer, so it gets to be front center in the living room)
 
 http://selectric.org/ibmpc/atxpc33.jpg
 
 
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 9x Z568M found on ebay

[Wayne de Geere]

...I am suspicious of that as well… but I would be bidding and paying with a 
credit card and was hoping that between that and ebay buyer protection that it 
would work out.

What do y'all think about that?

On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Terry S tschw10...@aol.com wrote:

 Seller has ZERO feedback. anyone suspicious?
 
 On Jan 12, 11:25 am, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have just found this and im really curious how high will it go! (no
 connection to the seller etc..)
 
 www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Lot-of-9x-Z568M-Gi...;hash=item3a7d71f673http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Lot-of-9x-Z568M-Giant-Nixie-Tubes-/25121...
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 9x Z568M found on ebay

[Wayne de Geere]

As Jeff will likely not be surprised, I'd like to make a move on these tubes 
but I also don't want to unnecessarily compete against folks here, so if 
someone's been thinking about bidding, let me know and I'll step aside or 
something.

Wayne

On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Jeff Thomas nixich...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nahh. That's where buyer protection comes in. You just get to stew a little 
 until your money comes back.
 The images are fresh, and not lifted from others. I'd be more concerned with 
 adequate packing, as the crate they're in are not the individual RFT boxes 
 they originally shipped in.
 Anyone remember back when these were available for $20 each from Jan? :)  
 Back before the world warmed up to the familiar glow.
 
 Now even the inverted 2 nixski tubes are selling for that.
 
 Jeff
 
 
 On Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:38:29 AM UTC-7, Terry S wrote:
 Seller has ZERO feedback. anyone suspicious? 
 
 On Jan 12, 11:25 am, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: 
  I have just found this and im really curious how high will it go! (no 
  connection to the seller etc..) 
  
  www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Lot-of-9x-Z568M-Gi...;hash=item3a7d71f673http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Lot-of-9x-Z568M-Giant-Nixie-Tubes-/25121...
   
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie clocks from Aliexpress

[Wayne de Geere]

My best guess with CD47 tubes going for close to $1500 each when one becomes 
for sale every year or two That's a $10,000 clock.

Wayne

On Nov 18, 2012, at 9:33 AM, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I cant even think how much would clock with six CD47 tubes cost?!
 
 On Sunday, 18 November 2012 15:06:39 UTC, Nixcited delighted wrote:
 
 On 15 Nov 2012, at 19:33, Huggermugger wrote: 
 
  I have purchased a bunch of various products from AliExpress 
  (www.aliexpress.com), which is a Chinese version of Amazon. 
  
  Found when searching the following Nixie-stuff: Have no clue of quality 
  however. 
  
  Clock kit: 
  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/In-case-Nixie-Tube-Clock-by-YS13-3-remote-control/654061026.html
   
  
  Nixietube module: 
  http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Nixie-Module-Limited-Arduino-Compatible-prossible-to-drive-the-Nixie-tube-directly-very-Funny/683548100.html
   
  
  /Magnus 
 
 Yan Zeyuan is well known for his beautiful nixie clocks, especially the one 
 with the incredible PCB design which he had so much trouble with someone 
 cloning. I love his work. 
 
 
 
 I wonder if he will sell his 6 tube CD47 clock? 
 http://s1237.beta.photobucket.com/user/yanzeyuan/media/CD47%20topics/CD47Clocknewcolon.mp4.html
  
 
 John S
 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Shameless Plug Time - Dekatron Spinner Kits

[Wayne de Geere III]

On 2011 Dec 28, at 21:57 , threeneurons wrote:

 BTW: that via/feedthru jumper trick goes back to the 70's, and was
 common on older computer boards. Mostly pre-IBM PC. Yes, there were
 PCs before IBM. Can anyone say CP/M ?

In fact in high school (early 1980s) I worked at a family owned computer store 
in Irvine, California and I sold Epson QZ-10 CP/M dekstop computers and at home 
I had an Apple //e with a Microsoft CP/M language card so I could run Apple 
DOS, Apple's ProDOS and CP/M. That was the era where a computer had 16k, 48k or 
64k of RAM and my Apple 5.25 floppy discs held 143kbytes on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epson_QX-10

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[neonixie-l] the new list

[Wayne de Geere III]

On 2011 Dec 25, at 12:32 , Jeff Thomas wrote:

 Fortunately this google group was started in it's ashes and has grown 
 considerably

I agree. I don't post much but I really enjoy this list (and nixies, of course.)

Jeff, you will be pleased to know we had some friends over today here in Lake 
Tahoe and he was admiring one of my Nixisats, I had to explain to him that this 
particular clock was now now unobtanium but maybe there might be a Nixichron 
around somewhere he could purchase.

I'll keep my eyes open for one for him if one comes to the resale market.

Happy Holidays everybody!

wayne

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Re: [neonixie-l] FS: 4ea, B7971 tubes, Geekklock kit,

[Wayne de Geere III]

I seem to be late to the party with #1 and #2 quickly snatched up (only jealous 
I didn't get #2, I have plenty of 7971 tubes.)

What does #3 look like? Can you post a pic?

On 2011 Jul 17, at 11:21 , Jim Faulkner wrote:

 I'm selling a few B7971 items to fund another project. Please respond
 directly to me rather than to the list:  k...@arrl.net
 
 1. 4ea, B7971 tubes that have been tested, and are good. I would prefer
 to sell these to someone that will use them rather than hoard them.
 Current prices seem to be a bit crazy. I am asking $325.00, including
 Priority Mail shipping (USA) and insurance.
 
 2. I have an unbuilt Geekklock kit for sale (This one does exist!). I
 have all of the documentation that I downloaded when I bought it. I was
 waiting on the Geekklock Accessory Module to arrive before starting
 the build, but since that was ordered in Nov. of '05, I seriously doubt
 that I will ever receive it. I will also include 4 tube SOCKETS since
 the PCB is designed to use them, (you can also use pins, but the sockets
 are a better solution, IMHO). The sockets are in good condition, but are
 used and still have wires soldered to the lugs. The total price
 including the kit, sockets, shipping (USA) and insurance is $200.00. If
 you buy the 4 B7971 tubes and the kit, I'll make you a better deal.
 
 3. 6 tube PCB for B7971 tubes with factory installed pin sockets. I
 don't know the history, but when I purchased it, I thought that it would
 be great for a 6 tube clock. $60.00, including shipping (USA).
 
 Payment by PayPal. I can send pictures of any item. Thanks for the
 bandwidth. 
 
 Jim
 
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] B7971 driver boards cheap

[Wayne de Geere III]

Hey can you email me pics, I'm potentially interested.

I'm doing a 7971 projects in the Ultronics style (i.e. lots of them as an 
alphanumeric display) I'd love to see them up close and I love to buy stuff 
like that.

On 2011 Jul 14, at 05:30 , Terry S wrote:

 If anyone is interested, I have (5) B7971 dual driver boards, the
 Ultronics style, available for the nominal price of $25 plus shipping.
 The sockets have been removed, but the rest of the components are
 there.
 
 As always, I'm open to trades.
 
 Terry.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] What I've been up to - Video Coat

[Wayne de Geere III]

You are a burner, too? We definitely have to meet in person this year, it will 
be my 17th in a row!

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jul 10, 2011, at 21:03, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote:

 I've been pretty distracted lately, building this gizmo for Burning Man.
 
 http://www.cathodecorner.com/videocoat/
 
 It'll be at the Detroit Maker Faire at the end of July, if you live near 
 there.
 
 [No Nixie tubes, but it was paid for by selling a hundred Nixie watches, so 
 there.]
 
 -- 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

[Wayne de Geere III]

Very sweet. I collect WECO gear like 550/551/556 cordboards and Pre 1960s dial 
sets, including the earliest dial subscriber sets like the AA1, 102 and 200 
series phones. I had a 1a2 key system in my house from high school until the 
late 1980s when Panasonic introduced the KXT616 analog PBX. My current favorite 
phone is a 102 w /subset Bluetooth linked to my iPhone, it even supports 
outbound pulse dialing through the iPhone.

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 30, 2011, at 22:14, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote:

 On 6/30/11 9:30 PM, Wayne de Geere III wrote:
 
 You must be a real phone fan to know that proper ring generation is at 20Hz, 
 I'm impressed!
 
 On 2011 Jun 30, at 20:34 , David Forbes wrote:
 
 I used to own an HP 201B audio signal generator. It was powerful enough to 
 ring a telephone bell, providing 100V RMS at 20 Hz.
 
 
 Yes, I am. I have an analog PBX in my house.
 
 I was building a cordless Western Electric 2500 desk set, so I needed to ring 
 the original bell with a 3.6V battery pack. I ended up rewinding the coil for 
 lower voltage and using a 555 timer oscillator feeding an H-bridge driver to 
 make it ring. It sounded exactly like the real thing.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

[Wayne de Geere III]

You must be a real phone fan to know that proper ring generation is at 20Hz, 
I'm impressed!

On 2011 Jun 30, at 20:34 , David Forbes wrote:

 I used to own an HP 201B audio signal generator. It was powerful enough to 
 ring a telephone bell, providing 100V RMS at 20 Hz.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Motion sensor board

[Wayne de Geere III]

Something like this fitted to my z568 Nixisat clocks would be great. I'm so 
worried about my supply and lifespan of my 568 tubes and having sufficiently 
distracted by 7971 and in18 clocks lately I have actually unplugged all but one 
of my 568 clocks and that one only runs when I'm home because of my concern 
about lack of replacements. I would definitely want to add a motion sensing 
feature to all those Nixisats, how real is this?

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:30, Jonathan Peakall jpeak...@madlabs.info wrote:

 Terry,
 
 Just so you know, you can buy premade motion sensors on a similar size board, 
 in case you don't feel like ordering etc. I have one on my clock because I 
 live off the grid and every watt is sacred (sung to the tune of every Sperm 
 is Sacred by Monty Python). I found placement to be important for best 
 function, so on the clock itself *might* not work well, you'll just have to 
 see.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Terry S tschw10...@aol.com
 To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:03 AM
 Subject: [neonixie-l] Motion sensor board
 
 
 I'm in the process of designing a tube-saver motion sensor board for
 one of my clocks, it's a Jeff Thomas WWVB clock using the
 irreplaceable Z568M nixies. No fresh ideas here really, taking the
 Panasonic motion sensor used with the Pete Hand FLW clock, adding a
 one-shot straight out of the parts' data sheet/app notes, and
 interfacing it to the WWVB clock with either a SSR triac (Thanks Jeff)
 or a relay contact.
 
 I'm planning on having a batch of boards made up. The sensor will
 mount right on the board (although one could extend it away with
 wires, too) so the board will need to mount perpendicular to the main
 clock board. It'll be very small - on the order of a square inch or
 so. Adjustable on time. SMT.
 
 Clearly with a board this size, I'm going to end up with a bunch of
 them. Any interest? Any input or suggestions?
 
 Terry
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

[Wayne de Geere III]

$445 for 4, maybe. Like that last auction that closed a day or two ago where 
the guy put a mirror up to the two tubes, making it look like there were four 
to a casual buyer. That would be quite an ugly surprise when a box of two 
showed up for the price of four.

On 2011 Jun 26, at 00:14 , MichaelB wrote:

 OK,  It appears they DO exist! I would like to see a shot of those
 mummified relics before I become a true believer. And if they prove to
 be real...a $445/2 believer, I will never be!
 
 On Jun 25, 9:55 pm, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Burroughs-B-7971-B7971-Nixie-Tube-Vintage-Rare...
 
 Too rich for my blood!
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:26 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
 **
 Very strange.
 
 A batch of mine that I could on ebay (11 of them) were also wrapped in this
 same newspaper.  Dates were all in 1971 as well.  Tried as I did, not of
 them were on my birthday.  :(
 
 Now I will have to go back and look since I still have them.I purchased
 that batch on ebay about a year ago.  The person said that they belonged to
 their expired father.
 
 Michail
 
  In a message dated 6/24/2011 11:23:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 n...@desmith.net writes:
 
 When shipping
 them to us they came in just that sheet of 1970s newspaper -
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

[Wayne de Geere III]

My mother in law handed me an article today about this from their local paper 
and asked if my funny tube clocks are still going to work. WIth the exception 
of my MOD6 clocks, I'm all GPS over here but I'd be a bit bummed that the 
masters of 60Hz have unilaterally decided to screw with that to see if it 
affects anyone which was the gist of the article published. After 80+ years of 
having a national 60Hz timebase, it seems somewhat odd to go and change that 
just because -- did anyone find anything on the net about why they're doing 
this and for what hoped benefit?

On 2011 Jun 24, at 20:10 , H. Carl Ott wrote:

 Of possible interest. A lot of my clocks use the grid as a reference.
 
 http://goo.gl/KhgtQ
 
 carl
 
 Henry Carl Ott   N2RVQhcarl...@gmail.com
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

[Wayne de Geere III]

Now we're all going to need to GPS or use an atomic time standard to discipline 
our mechanical flip clocks like http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-nixie/

On 2011 Jun 25, at 19:14 , neutron spin wrote:

 I think the original idea of grid frequency maintenance is when clocks were 
 purely mechanical before the digital era.  They of course were just 
 synchronous A.C. motors that were terribly inaccurate without the 
 synchonization to the power grid's frequency.  This also was before GPS and 
 sophisticated devices to reference to.  The only concern to electric 
 utilities today is synchronizing the generators when bringing them online to 
 avoid motoring...but that does not require any great frequency tolerance 
 since it is all relative
 
 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

[Wayne de Geere III]

Thats a heart breaking photo.

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 24, 2011, at 12:28, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote:

 On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote:
 On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Jeff,
 Did you find a way to make them?
 /me wondering where you come up with them all.
 Michail
 
 Buy low, sell high.
 
 http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
 
 These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.
 
 Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
 it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
 didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
 pretty much just chucked in a box  shipped with minimal packing.
 
 Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
 extra to account for wastage.
 
 http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
 
 Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
 in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.
 
 Nick
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] B7971's , twitter and teletypes

[Wayne de Geere III]

I apologize because it's horribly off topic but here's some google hits for my 
buddy eric's teletype twitter console, below. Eric Volpe who built it was my 
chief mail systems architect at the Web 1.0 internet company Critical Path 
(formerly Nasdaq: CPTH, after a decade of being a publicly traded company, it's 
now gone private.

http://www.teletweety.com/

http://www.teletweety.com/pics/web/

http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=teletweetyie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8

I am sure it there is a hook here somewhere, type on the teletype, have it 
appear on the B7971 tube array. Very Brazil.

On 2011 Jun 17, at 17:25 , Wayne de Geere III wrote:

 I'm always buying B7971s. If someone desperate for a few more tubes wants 
 them, by all means sell 'em, if nobody steps forward, I'll buy them no 
 problem. I have dreams of making a twitter message notification system from 
 7971 tubes and about 20 of the Cogwheel x8 boards (unless someone would like 
 to step forward and create something more integrated and application 
 specific) -- a Lectrascan type arrangement would be stellar, remember tweets 
 are 140 chars and I need about 50 or more tubes to pull this off.
 
 It's going to be a showpiece though, for sure, once it's done. I want to 
 spare no expense in how it's built and shown, hoping Michael Barile might 
 want to help me work out what it's going to look like, I think it's going to 
 be sufficiently large that it will need to be able to be hung on a wall.
 
 You heard it here first, folks, I don't think anyone else has ever proposed 
 reading tweets on a nixie display, it will go nicely with my friend and 
 ex-employee's teletype that he has wired up to twitter, very retro-tech. 
 Here's a photo of his teletype connected to one of our favorite ICB channels, 
 it really makes me think I need a teletype next in my retro tech collection. 
 Networked, of course.
 
 On 2011 Jun 17, at 16:45 , Terry S wrote:
 
 I have a small number of B7971's surplus to my needs. I am offering
 them here before eBay.
 
 These are used tubes, but all I've tested so far have been 100% good.
 If you are interested or in need of tubes, shoot me an email with your
 offer. Buyer will pay USPS flat rate priority mail shipping plus a
 small amount to cover packing materials. US buyers only please.
 
 Payment terms will be cash, personal check (once cleared) or PayPal
 with buyer covering fees.
 
 All tubes will be tested, marked, and photographed before shipping.
 
 Please don't be offended if I don't answer your email right away -- I
 will take time to fairly weigh all offers.
 
 Terry
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 resurrection

[Wayne de Geere III]

I have my one tube, that's it. I could go for having it filled with argon just 
for grins, I'm concerned that the nipple on my one bad tube may not be broken, 
it may have lost seal some other way, like one of the cathode or anode pin 
ports.

On 2011 Jun 08, at 20:35 , Gene Segal wrote:

 Nixie Gang,
 
 Am I to assume that nobody on the list has IN-18s with broken nipples 
 (judging by the response)?  Should we give it a few more days for folks to 
 chime in?  
 
 To reiterate, I was hoping to get a pool of people, so that we could collect 
 all the damaged tubes and have one expert do something very interesting with 
 them.
 
 Margaret sounds very knowledgable, and I don't know about the rest of you, 
 but I'm going to ask her fill my broken tubes with pure argon.  :P
 
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 resurrection

[Wayne de Geere III]

I have one that no longer works, have no idea why, I may have lost vacuum when 
I was pulling or re-inserting it into my clock after doing some work on one of 
my clocks.

On 2011 Jun 07, at 15:02 , Gene Segal wrote:

 Nixie Gang,
 
 Is there anybody interested in bringing their IN-18's back from the dead?  
 Specifically, those of you who have suffered broken pupiks (glass bibs or 
 pips between the pins).  I am not an expert, but was thinking that those 
 could be refilled and sealed.  If we get a decent number of these casualties 
 together, then perhaps it would be interesting to some expert neon glass guy 
 to refill them.  So the question is - how many of these could we get together 
 in one location, in order to approach an expert.  I can get us started with 
 about 20.
 
 Perhaps we could devise a voucher system, so that everyone sends their dead 
 guys to one person, then an estimate is obtained for the lot, and everybody 
 pitches in their share.  These would be only for private use, since longevity 
 would probably suffer...but it might be worth it for some to pay $20 per 
 tube, for example, to have a backup. Thoughts?
 
 Gene
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Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 resurrection

[Wayne de Geere III]

OK, brain fart, you get the idea, though. the tube worked, I removed it from a 
Nixichron in the course of a firmware upgrade, put it back in later and the 
tube no longer worked. First time ever and frankly I'm happy it was an IN-18 
and not a Z568M or B7971 tube, it was a cheaper lesson learned. :)

On 2011 Jun 07, at 15:48 , jb-electronics wrote:

 It cannot lose vacuum because it has never had vacuum ;-)
 
 Jens
 
 Am 08.06.2011 00:43, schrieb Wayne de Geere III:
 
 
 I have one that no longer works, have no idea why, I may have lost vacuum 
 when I was pulling or re-inserting it into my clock after doing some work on 
 one of my clocks.
 
 On 2011 Jun 07, at 15:02 , Gene Segal wrote:
 
 Nixie Gang,
 
 Is there anybody interested in bringing their IN-18's back from the dead?  
 Specifically, those of you who have suffered broken pupiks (glass bibs or 
 pips between the pins).  I am not an expert, but was thinking that those 
 could be refilled and sealed.  If we get a decent number of these 
 casualties together, then perhaps it would be interesting to some expert 
 neon glass guy to refill them.  So the question is - how many of these 
 could we get together in one location, in order to approach an expert.  I 
 can get us started with about 20.
 
 Perhaps we could devise a voucher system, so that everyone sends their dead 
 guys to one person, then an estimate is obtained for the lot, and everybody 
 pitches in their share.  These would be only for private use, since 
 longevity would probably suffer...but it might be worth it for some to pay 
 $20 per tube, for example, to have a backup. Thoughts?
 
 Gene
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I bought the first Nixisat from Jeff, a cylinder one in Dec '03. Then the bug 
bit again in late '08 and found a wood base one on eBay, snatched it up, the 
seller just happened to be John Miktuk who wrote the firmware. Later he 
discovered a Nixisat base, one of his development prototypes and I bought that 
one as well and i populated it with all red Z568M tubes in it for something 
different.

Since then the nixie fever has only gotten worse, but for the better. :) I 
can't count anymore the number of tubes and clocks, I suppose that means I have 
definitely arrived.

I came in at the tail-end of the MOD_SIX project and purchased #49 and #50 of 
the first production run, I can't wait to put my 7971 tubes to use, I haven't 
been this excited about anything in a while though I'm also ordering two of the 
Cogwheel X8 kits as well, I am intrigued with the idea of a bunch of 
alphanumeric nixies with a Bluetooth computer interface, I am really excited to 
see what can be done with it.

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 2, 2011, at 20:13, Greg P gregory.peet...@verizon.net wrote:

 Wayne,
 
 Damn, you're lucky enough to have 3 of Jeff's NixiSat'sat least
 you got them when the price was right.
 
 I like the 9020AA's but don't have any, and I have a stash of B7971's
 that I have earmarked for one of Michael Barile and Carl Ott's MOD_SIX
 that I ordered.  Glad to hear you want to commission Michael for a
 Z568M piece, his clocks are absolutely amazing and his workmanship is
 impeccable
 
 Good luck on your quest for the unobtainum.
 
 
 
 On Jun 2, 3:06 am, Wayne de Geere III wa...@degeere.com wrote:
 I'm a big fan of Jeff's clocks. Back in December 2003 I paused and wondered 
 if $1200 was too much to spend on a clock. At the time Jeff was also selling 
 spare Z568M tubes to purchasers of his clocks for $35 each. My first from 
 him was a cylindrical Nixisat. At that time he had already sold 8 of the 10 
 cylinder Nixisats in that round acrylic enclosure, I have cursed myself ever 
 since for not having bought both. That was the beginning of my nixie clock 
 fever and now, thousands of dollars in tubes and clocks later, I keep my 
 eyes open for those parting with Jeff's clocks on eBay, they don't come 
 around that often, people just don't let them go.
 
 My tube of 2011 is turning out to be the B-7971, I've been gathering them 
 from the four corners of the globe for Cogwheel's X8 bluetooth, the 
 MOD-SIX_7971 project and some other FLW devices as they come around.
 
 I've also recently bought a few B8971s (the smaller version of the B7971) 
 but I don't have anything to put them into... yet.
 
 On my long term must have list are the Rodan CD47 and F9020AA tube clocks. 
 I'm also hoping to commission Michael Barile to create a Z568M clock or two 
 as well, I'm a big fan and most of his clocks as they are derived from Jeff 
 Thomas GPS disciplined hardware and John Miktuk's firmware.
 
 What other tubes are others particularly enchanted in?
 
 On 2011 Jun 01, at 18:42 , Greg P wrote:
 
 
 
 Wayne I'm glad someone else agrees with my opinion of the Z568M/
 Z5680M's...  You have good taste in clocks...Jeff's pieces are
 amazing.
 
 On Jun 1, 9:20 pm, Wayne de Geere III wa...@degeere.com wrote:
 I do agree and I currently own three Z568M/Z5680M clocks, all from Jeff 
 Thomas. They really are in so many ways the perfect large nixie, 
 proportionally as well as filament shape. I think the IN-18 tubes are a 
 smaller, more affordable version and I've given several of Jeff's 
 Nixichron clocks as gifts, everyone who has received one has been 
 delighted by them.
 
 On 2011 Jun 01, at 17:03 , Greg P wrote:
 
 I might be in the minority here, but I still think the Z568M Z5680M's
 are by far the most attractive and properly proportioned Nixie I've
 ever seen.
 
 CD47's may be big, but the shapes of the digits are too stretched out
 and not very proportional IMHO.  Just look at the number 4 cathode,
 with it's funky shape and off center glowing lead off bottom standoff..
 
 Maybe I would think differently if I owned a set, but not a high
 priority for my collection, especially at those prices.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

Oh yeah, the wife. She's not particularly pleased with my nixie tube, clock and 
vintage western electric and bell system equipment collecting but I always 
remind her it could have been strippers and coke! That usually gets the point 
across. :)

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:18, micha...@aol.com wrote:

 Congrats
  
 I am as excited as you.
  
 Of course, it is pissing my wife off.  BUT, lately, I got smart.
  
 Hunny, look what I am getting.  No, it's a special buy in deal.  The clock 
 is only $50
  
 Michail
  
 In a message dated 6/4/2011 9:11:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
 wa...@degeere.com writes:
 I bought the first Nixisat from Jeff, a cylinder one in Dec '03. Then the bug 
 bit again in late '08 and found a wood base one on eBay, snatched it up, the 
 seller just happened to be John Miktuk who wrote the firmware. Later he 
 discovered a Nixisat base, one of his development prototypes and I bought 
 that one as well and i populated it with all red Z568M tubes in it for 
 something different.
 
 Since then the nixie fever has only gotten worse, but for the better. :) I 
 can't count anymore the number of tubes and clocks, I suppose that means I 
 have definitely arrived.
 
 I came in at the tail-end of the MOD_SIX project and purchased #49 and #50 of 
 the first production run, I can't wait to put my 7971 tubes to use, I haven't 
 been this excited about anything in a while though I'm also ordering two of 
 the Cogwheel X8 kits as well, I am intrigued with the idea of a bunch of 
 alphanumeric nixies with a Bluetooth computer interface, I am really excited 
 to see what can be done with it.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I just wanted to note this book is available in the iBooks store on the 
iPad/iPhone and thanks for the heads up I just bought the book there.

On 2011 Jun 04, at 11:12 , Adam Jacobs wrote:

 The above slightly humorous jokes aside, I strongly recommend that anyone who 
 is interested in getting along with their wife pick up a copy of this book:
 http://www.bettermen.org/better-men-store.asp

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I'm a big fan of Jeff's clocks. Back in December 2003 I paused and wondered if 
$1200 was too much to spend on a clock. At the time Jeff was also selling spare 
Z568M tubes to purchasers of his clocks for $35 each. My first from him was a 
cylindrical Nixisat. At that time he had already sold 8 of the 10 cylinder 
Nixisats in that round acrylic enclosure, I have cursed myself ever since for 
not having bought both. That was the beginning of my nixie clock fever and now, 
thousands of dollars in tubes and clocks later, I keep my eyes open for those 
parting with Jeff's clocks on eBay, they don't come around that often, people 
just don't let them go. 

My tube of 2011 is turning out to be the B-7971, I've been gathering them 
from the four corners of the globe for Cogwheel's X8 bluetooth, the 
MOD-SIX_7971 project and some other FLW devices as they come around.

I've also recently bought a few B8971s (the smaller version of the B7971) but I 
don't have anything to put them into... yet.

On my long term must have list are the Rodan CD47 and F9020AA tube clocks. 
I'm also hoping to commission Michael Barile to create a Z568M clock or two as 
well, I'm a big fan and most of his clocks as they are derived from Jeff Thomas 
GPS disciplined hardware and John Miktuk's firmware.

What other tubes are others particularly enchanted in?

On 2011 Jun 01, at 18:42 , Greg P wrote:

 Wayne I'm glad someone else agrees with my opinion of the Z568M/
 Z5680M's...  You have good taste in clocks...Jeff's pieces are
 amazing.
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 1, 9:20 pm, Wayne de Geere III wa...@degeere.com wrote:
 I do agree and I currently own three Z568M/Z5680M clocks, all from Jeff 
 Thomas. They really are in so many ways the perfect large nixie, 
 proportionally as well as filament shape. I think the IN-18 tubes are a 
 smaller, more affordable version and I've given several of Jeff's Nixichron 
 clocks as gifts, everyone who has received one has been delighted by them.
 
 On 2011 Jun 01, at 17:03 , Greg P wrote:
 
 
 
 I might be in the minority here, but I still think the Z568M Z5680M's
 are by far the most attractive and properly proportioned Nixie I've
 ever seen.
 
 CD47's may be big, but the shapes of the digits are too stretched out
 and not very proportional IMHO.  Just look at the number 4 cathode,
 with it's funky shape and off center glowing lead off bottom standoff.
 
 Maybe I would think differently if I owned a set, but not a high
 priority for my collection, especially at those prices.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I'm definitely one of those folks nutty for the Thompson F9020AA so please send 
your source my way, I want several clocks using that tube, I'm like Noah's Ark, 
I curate at least two pieces each of the clocks I love.

On 2011 Jun 02, at 02:46 , Dieter Waechter wrote:

 Out curiosity, do you think that this zeal to purchase rare tubes extends to 
 the similarly-rare F9020AA?   We may see a bunch of them becoming available 
 on ebay soon, owing to the recent discovery of a large lot at an estate sale.
 
 I don't know - but the tastes differ! I - for example - don't like the flat 
 shape of the F9020AA. These are mor for collecting than making a clock with 
 them (in my mind) - so I would not pay more than 50 EUR each. But I know - 
 others will pay much much more.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Keeping your clock accurate

[Wayne de Geere III]

Hello Mr Forbes!

I've been considering a rubidium time standard to keep the scope clock I bought 
from you back in '03 or '04 disciplined. Do you know if there are any with 1PPS 
outputs built in so that no other glue electronics would be unnecessary?

On 2011 Jun 02, at 13:03 , David Forbes wrote:

 On 6/2/2011 12:26 PM, Robert Sexton wrote:
 
 3. Find some other time source that you can decode to get the time (NMEA 
 from a
 GPS, WWVB, NTP, etc).
 
 
 You can also use the 1 pulse-per-second (PPS) output from a GPS unit, but 
 don't bother setting the time with the NMEA string. This takes a lot less 
 effort, as you don't have to write a serial port driver and text parser. Just 
 use the usual time setting buttons.
 
 An excellent GPS receiver with 1PPS output is the Garmin GPS-18x-LVC. It has 
 bare wire ends for RS-232 communications, so you have to put your own COM 
 port connector and 5V supply on it. Its cost is $75.
 
 1PPS may also be derived from a rubidium clock's 10 MHz output. Rb 
 oscillators are not too expensive and hold time to within a millisecond per 
 year. I made a rubidium nixie clock for my workshop:
 
 http://www.nixiebunny.com/rbnix/rbnix.html
 
 -- 
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Re: [neonixie-l] CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I seriously considered bidding from ebay.de but when it went over $1,000 for 
the single tube in the final seconds, I decided not to snipe it.

On 2011 Jun 01, at 14:07 , jb-electronics wrote:

 Oh my god, this went for 908EUR, that is $1300. This is mental.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190536656569
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I'll happily by a CD47 clock from anyone who needs to make a mortgage payment, 
keep me in mind. :)

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jun 1, 2011, at 14:19, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote:

 What should I take for a clock with 6 NIB CD47 - say in 2 years ???
 Dieter (shaking his head, but grins)
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I have propositioned Jeff several times to buy his CD47 Nixzilla (the original 
Nixzilla, literally!) but so far he hasn't been able to part with it. I can 
completely understand why, the tubes are really something.

In the meantime I'm on the hunt for some Thompson F9020AA flat nixies...

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jun 1, 2011, at 14:40, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think for most nixie tube clock builders, then the tube size plays an 
 important factorfor instance the Z5680 clock I have is visually more 
 striking than either the IN-18, IN-14, IN-12 etc clocks that I 
 haveespecially to those that have never seen such clocks before. I've 
 always dreamed of owning a CD47 clock (like the ones Jeff Thomas has on his 
 website - Nixzilla!), but at that price, it's just plain ridiculous...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Nick
 
 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de 
 wrote:
 Ni Nick,
 
 well, I think some of our very own group members might be close to a 
 breakthrough. Although I do not think that homebrew Nixie tubes will go 
 for this kind of money.
 
 These high prices always make me think what makes a tube valuable. Is it only 
 the digit height? For me, very old or peculiar tubes are much more 
 interesting.
 
 Jens
 
 
 Am 01.06.2011 23:32, schrieb Nicholas Stock:
 Somebody needs to start making these again.then the market will crash!
 
 Nick
 
 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:30 PM,   jb-electronics 
 webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote:
 Let's face it, this was crazy. I went along till 400EUR, but that was it, 
 the tube is neither new nor proved to be functionary.
 
 I remember that in 2006 there were 7 CD47s sold on German Ebay for 2000EUR, 
 and back then I tought that was expensive...
 
 What's your opinion, I think the Nixie market is just about to crash ;-)
 
 Jens
 
 Am 01.06.2011 23:19, schrieb Dieter Waechter:
 What should I take for a clock with 6 NIB CD47 - say in 2 years ???
 Dieter (shaking his head, but grins)
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

Me, too.

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On Jun 1, 2011, at 14:45, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote:

 ;-)
 Yeah! that's right.
 But if 1000 CD47 would be on the market, I would buy them in one lot.
 ;-)
 Dieter
  
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 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - newprice record?
 
 I'll agree to disagree with you Dieterscarcity plays a role in price, the 
 less-scarce the item, the cheaper it becomes. Put 1000 new Rodan CD-47's on 
 the market at once and suddenly your asking price will drop.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

Send more info on this recent discovery, please... (please!)

On 2011 Jun 01, at 17:02 , Ulysses J. Balis wrote:

 I would too.  ;-)   
  
 Out curiosity, do you think that this zeal to purchase rare tubes extends to 
 the similarly-rare F9020AA?   We may see a bunch of them becoming available 
 on ebay soon, owing to the recent discovery of a large lot at an estate sale.
  
 Ul
  
  
  
  
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 ;-)
 Yeah! that's right.
 But if 1000 CD47 would be on the market, I would buy them in one lot.
 ;-)
 Dieter
  
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 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?
  
 I'll agree to disagree with you Dieterscarcity plays a role in price, the 
 less-scarce the item, the cheaper it becomes. Put 1000 new Rodan CD-47's on 
 the market at once and suddenly your asking price will drop.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CD47 - new price record?

[Wayne de Geere III]

I do agree and I currently own three Z568M/Z5680M clocks, all from Jeff Thomas. 
They really are in so many ways the perfect large nixie, proportionally as well 
as filament shape. I think the IN-18 tubes are a smaller, more affordable 
version and I've given several of Jeff's Nixichron clocks as gifts, everyone 
who has received one has been delighted by them.

On 2011 Jun 01, at 17:03 , Greg P wrote:

 I might be in the minority here, but I still think the Z568M Z5680M's
 are by far the most attractive and properly proportioned Nixie I've
 ever seen.
 
 CD47's may be big, but the shapes of the digits are too stretched out
 and not very proportional IMHO.  Just look at the number 4 cathode,
 with it's funky shape and off center glowing lead off bottom standoff.
 
 Maybe I would think differently if I owned a set, but not a high
 priority for my collection, especially at those prices.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 x8 Display : The Movie.

[Wayne de Geere III]

Only my savings account!

On 2011 May 12, at 23:32 , jb-electronics wrote:

 
 I have about 50x b7971 tubes now, waiting patiently for some things to put 
 them into. :)
 
 Whoa, who did you kill for these?
 
 Jens
 
 Sent from my iPad 2 3G
 
 On May 12, 2011, at 4:04, coggsbob.coggesh...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 (I guess there’s no harm cross-posting this stuff to both neonixie-l
 and cogwheel-nixie-system groups)
 
 Regarding Caller ID, one could go to a pure hardware solution and
 solder chips, but my tendency would be to use a PC, an off-the-shelf
 USB modem dongle and a little Perl script to monitor the modem for the
 Caller ID and get it to the display.
 
 The demo video was done using a very small Perl script, BTW. But any
 programming language w/access to the peripherals would work just as
 well.
 
 Regarding more than 8 tubes, you would just need to build two B7971x8s
 systems and communicate with both of them independently through two
 virtual serial ports. The scroll shifting would probably work w/o any
 modification to the display driver board firmware.
 
 You are lucky you if you have 16 B7971s; They might fetch over $1500
 in today's market.
 
 ..c
 
 On May 11, 7:50 pm, Wayne de Geere IIIwa...@degeere.com  wrote:
 I'm thinking your B7971x8 display support landline caller ID functions. 
 Just wanted to put that out there as an interesting function, especially 
 for a display with support for 7+ numbers/characters. Caller ID and call 
 waiting caller ID is part of the ADSI spec, it's basically a Bell 202 
 (simplex) modem burst of data.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Display_Services_Interface
 
 http://telecom-info.telcordia.com/site-cgi/ido/docs.cgi?ID=SEARCHDOC
 
 There's probably a chip out there that grabs it (through an optocoupler or 
 optoisolator) and delivers TTL level ASCII out the back end.
 
 I'd like a longer than 8 tube device, personally, but 8 would be great, 
 especially if the data scrolled.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 x8 Display : The Movie.

[Wayne de Geere III]

I have about 50x b7971 tubes now, waiting patiently for some things to put them 
into. :)

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On May 12, 2011, at 4:04, coggs bob.coggesh...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I guess there’s no harm cross-posting this stuff to both neonixie-l
 and cogwheel-nixie-system groups)
 
 Regarding Caller ID, one could go to a pure hardware solution and
 solder chips, but my tendency would be to use a PC, an off-the-shelf
 USB modem dongle and a little Perl script to monitor the modem for the
 Caller ID and get it to the display.
 
 The demo video was done using a very small Perl script, BTW. But any
 programming language w/access to the peripherals would work just as
 well.
 
 Regarding more than 8 tubes, you would just need to build two B7971x8s
 systems and communicate with both of them independently through two
 virtual serial ports. The scroll shifting would probably work w/o any
 modification to the display driver board firmware.
 
 You are lucky you if you have 16 B7971s; They might fetch over $1500
 in today's market.
 
 ..c
 
 On May 11, 7:50 pm, Wayne de Geere III wa...@degeere.com wrote:
 I'm thinking your B7971x8 display support landline caller ID functions. Just 
 wanted to put that out there as an interesting function, especially for a 
 display with support for 7+ numbers/characters. Caller ID and call waiting 
 caller ID is part of the ADSI spec, it's basically a Bell 202 (simplex) 
 modem burst of data.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Display_Services_Interface
 
 http://telecom-info.telcordia.com/site-cgi/ido/docs.cgi?ID=SEARCHDOC
 
 There's probably a chip out there that grabs it (through an optocoupler or 
 optoisolator) and delivers TTL level ASCII out the back end.
 
 I'd like a longer than 8 tube device, personally, but 8 would be great, 
 especially if the data scrolled.
 
 
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 x8 Display : The Movie.

[Wayne de Geere III]

I'm thinking your B7971x8 display support landline caller ID functions. Just 
wanted to put that out there as an interesting function, especially for a 
display with support for 7+ numbers/characters. Caller ID and call waiting 
caller ID is part of the ADSI spec, it's basically a Bell 202 (simplex) modem 
burst of data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Display_Services_Interface

http://telecom-info.telcordia.com/site-cgi/ido/docs.cgi?ID=SEARCHDOCUMENT=FR-12;

There's probably a chip out there that grabs it (through an optocoupler or 
optoisolator) and delivers TTL level ASCII out the back end.

I'd like a longer than 8 tube device, personally, but 8 would be great, 
especially if the data scrolled.

On 2011 May 11, at 15:55 , coggs wrote:

 So I can find it later ?
 
 On May 11, 7:48 am, Terry S tschw10...@aol.com wrote:
 Why? You have all of 21 members there. Maybe 3 active. This is the
 group that is interested.
 
 On May 11, 6:00 am, coggs bob.coggesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll be replying to this thread over 
 onhttp://groups.google.com/group/cogwheel-nixie-system
 ..c
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] More Nixies in film

[Wayne de Geere III]

It's funny you mentioned that, I also just watched for my first time ever 
Altered States and noticed the HP time plotter with the nixie tubes spitting 
out the thermal paper. I even made a note at the time what the model number was 
but I've since forgotten it.

On 2011 Apr 11, at 10:35 , Gene Segal wrote:

 Just watched Altered States with William Hurt, 1980.  Besides being a great 
 psychological thriller, there is a lab scene which clearly shows equipment 
 using nixies and large edgelit numerical displays.
 
 Now be honest, folks - how many of you have experienced altered states by 
 observing nixie and edgelit displays?
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Re: [neonixie-l] More Nixies in film

[Wayne de Geere III]

On 2011 Apr 11, at 10:45 , David Forbes wrote:

 On 4/11/11 10:35 AM, Gene Segal wrote:
 
 Now be honest, folks - how many of you have experienced altered states
 by observing nixie and edgelit displays?
 
 
 My state is altered for the better every time I read my Nixie watch.

Hey, you ever going to ship your new scope clock? I'm just sayin'. :)


 David Forbes, Tucson AZ

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