Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
By noise canceling, my crazy idea was something like this: Attach a microphone on the transformer, apply a band-width filter at 900Hz, phase delay 180 degrees and output the amplified out-of-phase signal via a transducer or speaker mounted on the chassis. Complete overkill, but could it possibly reduce a bit of the noise if the placement were just right? Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2cfed96f-5943-4be6-8305-3f1d38f6f23c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
The hand could be several lines starting short getting longer then shorter again? Centrifuging could help with potting - ie bucket on a rope :-)) Maybe it is an excuse to try some active noise cancelling experiments? Or, maybe you have had your fun and I'll give you two bob for it. John K - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: Cc: Sent:Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject:Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! Thanks for the comment. It's hard to make the hands much thicker. It's radially scanned from the centre out so adding more scan lines makes the hand wider at the tip than at the base - the opposite of what's desirable. At the moment it's just 2 lines. I do increase the intensity for the minute and hour hands as much as I can compared to the second hand by increasing the time the dots making up the lines are presented on the screen and it looks pretty good in the flesh. Morris On Monday, July 14, 2014 10:06:44 PM UTC+10, Tidak Ada wrote: Amazing! Idea: Is it possible to give the hours hand a broader line? I cannot wait to see extended technical information! eric - FROM: neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com] ON BEHALF OF Morris Odell SENT: maandag 14 juli 2014 11:03 TO: neoni...@googlegroups.com SUBJECT: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs [1] Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com [2]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout [3]. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com [4]. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [5]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e07f7c29-3531-4a7f-9410-29d4cd951508%40googlegroups.com [6]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout [7]. Links: -- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailamp;utm_source=footer [3] https://groups.google.com/d/optout [4] mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com [5] mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [6] https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e07f7c29-3531-4a7f-9410-29d4cd951508%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailamp;utm_source=footer [7] https://groups.google.com/d/optout -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c248aa598f9792c54f4daa91552b618f1bfb9e88%40webmail.internode.on.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Would a slight focus variation during scanning the hours hands be an option? Is there no transformer business available who can help you? eric _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris Odell Sent: dinsdag 15 juli 2014 4:58 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! Thanks for the comment. It's hard to make the hands much thicker. It's radially scanned from the centre out so adding more scan lines makes the hand wider at the tip than at the base - the opposite of what's desirable. At the moment it's just 2 lines. I do increase the intensity for the minute and hour hands as much as I can compared to the second hand by increasing the time the dots making up the lines are presented on the screen and it looks pretty good in the flesh. Morris On Monday, July 14, 2014 10:06:44 PM UTC+10, Tidak Ada wrote: Amazing! Idea: Is it possible to give the hours hand a broader line? I cannot wait to see extended technical information! eric _ From: neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:neoni...@ javascript: googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris Odell Sent: maandag 14 juli 2014 11:03 To: neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@ javascript: googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript: . To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb2 2c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ https://groups.google.com/d/optout optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e07f7c29-3531-4a7f-9410-29d4cd9 51508%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e07f7c29-3531-4a7f-9410-29d4cd 951508%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/!%26!AAAYAPDddShx705MuX20yCpp0vvCgAAAEFVrRwA2PLZNgrwYUBNCYRMBAA%3D%3D%40zeelandnet.nl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Thanks Tom, The E1T clock is at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5I_L4KY4Qo The video doesn't show it well but there's a little IN-17 nixie on the front that displays the number of satellites seen by the internal GPS receiver. It was a nice technical challenge but to be honest I don't think it succeeds as a clock. We humans are over-experienced to recognise traditional clockfaces and digital displays without actively thinking about them. The E1T is too alien. Non-nerds don't recognise it instantly as a clock as they do all the others I've made and even when it's explained people don't see it as a practical clock. Thanks for the offer of the transformer varnish etc. I've got a couple of other avenues to try (not work related :-) but I might get back to you. Cheers, Morris On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:30:16 PM UTC+10, celephicus wrote: Hi Morris, Yes I do, I follow you achievments with interest, where can I see pics of the E1T clock? Your display sounds complex, a thee phase scanning yoke! Why not just have an X-Y vector display and drive that directly by the micro? I do have a mate with a vacuum chamber (actually a commercial pressure cooker with a vacuum pump) and I can get hold of some transformer varnish as well. Want to give it a go? You have to bake it afterwards to get the varnish to go off. Lot of work for a one off. In your profession I would have thought that you would have access to a lab with some sinister apparatus for preparation of specimens shall we say...? Tom Harris celep...@gmail.com javascript: On 15 July 2014 13:01, Morris Odell vilg...@bigpond.net.au javascript: wrote: Thanks Tom, No it's a static yoke which is 3 phase delta wound and excited with suitable waveforms generated by a micro. It's the original 900 Hz radar power tranny that's the culprit. BTW you may remember me as the fellow who once bought a E1T chassis from you for experimentation. That ended up as a the learning experience nice 6 digit clock too! Cheers, On Monday, July 14, 2014 7:18:43 PM UTC+10, celephicus wrote: Very nice Morris. The last display like this I saw had a rotating yoke with slip rings, so if yours has one the power transformer must be a real howler. It sounds like 400Hz too. Can't wait to see it completed. Tom Harris celep...@gmail.com On 14 July 2014 19:02, Morris Odell vilg...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b47303bf-9443-41ab-b2ef-3c3a1b165c90%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b47303bf-9443-41ab-b2ef-3c3a1b165c90%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/236baba0-bafd-4272-ab22-4bccbfcbae89%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Morris that is truly awesome. I admit to having no clue how this could work after all, and to having to go back and re-read your Saga of the Sperry part 3 article - and I suspect I'll do so several times more before I get it! Would a simple noise-canceling unit tuned to the transformer frequency help to reduce the noise? Well done so far. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ed315069-667d-4f73-8c5a-e02ac53e52e6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
The 900 Hz noise of which Morris is mentioning is 'most likely' being caused by physical vibration of the lamination's within one or more of the transformers, and there is not much that can be done about it, if I am correct. But I'll wait and see along with the rest of us as to what Morris has to say about it. Ira. On 7/15/2014 6:21 AM, Oscilloclock wrote: Morris that is truly awesome. I admit to having no clue how this could work after all, and to having to go back and re-read your Saga of the Sperry part 3 article - and I suspect I'll do so several times more before I get it! Would a simple noise-canceling unit tuned to the transformer frequency help to reduce the noise? Well done so far. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/53C52E67.3000305%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Even when the laminations and windings are tight, magnetostriction can produce a lot of sound. A 'varnished' transformer can be potted in 'rubber' to absorb the vibrations. Mounting requirements and wire sizes are design issues. John K - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: Cc: Sent:Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:36:39 -0700 Subject:Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! The 900 Hz noise of which Morris is mentioning is 'most likely' being caused by physical vibration of the lamination's within one or more of the transformers, and there is not much that can be done about it, if I am correct. But I'll wait and see along with the rest of us as to what Morris has to say about it. Ira. On 7/15/2014 6:21 AM, Oscilloclock wrote: Morris that is truly awesome. I admit to having no clue how this could work after all, and to having to go back and re-read your Saga of the Sperry part 3 article - and I suspect I'll do so several times more before I get it! Would a simple noise-canceling unit tuned to the transformer frequency help to reduce the noise? Well done so far. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/53C52E67.3000305%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/eb6eb4f43f1925a9eff0aacc7a94faba98b80dc3%40webmail.internode.on.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Very nice Morris. The last display like this I saw had a rotating yoke with slip rings, so if yours has one the power transformer must be a real howler. It sounds like 400Hz too. Can't wait to see it completed. Tom Harris celephi...@gmail.com On 14 July 2014 19:02, Morris Odell vilgo...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAHjG12QyaJoS3fFgNyfEwgPC5hUKu4ghDhdV8gFkbj6mjbT0DQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Thanks for the comment. It's hard to make the hands much thicker. It's radially scanned from the centre out so adding more scan lines makes the hand wider at the tip than at the base - the opposite of what's desirable. At the moment it's just 2 lines. I do increase the intensity for the minute and hour hands as much as I can compared to the second hand by increasing the time the dots making up the lines are presented on the screen and it looks pretty good in the flesh. Morris On Monday, July 14, 2014 10:06:44 PM UTC+10, Tidak Ada wrote: Amazing! Idea: Is it possible to give the hours hand a broader line? I cannot wait to see extended technical information! eric -- *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Morris Odell *Sent:* maandag 14 juli 2014 11:03 *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working! Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e07f7c29-3531-4a7f-9410-29d4cd951508%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Thanks Tom, No it's a static yoke which is 3 phase delta wound and excited with suitable waveforms generated by a micro. It's the original 900 Hz radar power tranny that's the culprit. BTW you may remember me as the fellow who once bought a E1T chassis from you for experimentation. That ended up as a the learning experience nice 6 digit clock too! Cheers, On Monday, July 14, 2014 7:18:43 PM UTC+10, celephicus wrote: Very nice Morris. The last display like this I saw had a rotating yoke with slip rings, so if yours has one the power transformer must be a real howler. It sounds like 400Hz too. Can't wait to see it completed. Tom Harris celep...@gmail.com javascript: On 14 July 2014 19:02, Morris Odell vilg...@bigpond.net.au javascript: wrote: Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b47303bf-9443-41ab-b2ef-3c3a1b165c90%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Sperry radar clock now working!
Hi Morris, Yes I do, I follow you achievments with interest, where can I see pics of the E1T clock? Your display sounds complex, a thee phase scanning yoke! Why not just have an X-Y vector display and drive that directly by the micro? I do have a mate with a vacuum chamber (actually a commercial pressure cooker with a vacuum pump) and I can get hold of some transformer varnish as well. Want to give it a go? You have to bake it afterwards to get the varnish to go off. Lot of work for a one off. In your profession I would have thought that you would have access to a lab with some sinister apparatus for preparation of specimens shall we say...? Tom Harris celephi...@gmail.com On 15 July 2014 13:01, Morris Odell vilgo...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Thanks Tom, No it's a static yoke which is 3 phase delta wound and excited with suitable waveforms generated by a micro. It's the original 900 Hz radar power tranny that's the culprit. BTW you may remember me as the fellow who once bought a E1T chassis from you for experimentation. That ended up as a the learning experience nice 6 digit clock too! Cheers, On Monday, July 14, 2014 7:18:43 PM UTC+10, celephicus wrote: Very nice Morris. The last display like this I saw had a rotating yoke with slip rings, so if yours has one the power transformer must be a real howler. It sounds like 400Hz too. Can't wait to see it completed. Tom Harris celep...@gmail.com On 14 July 2014 19:02, Morris Odell vilg...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, I've got the clock displaying time now. The video shows it upside down on the bench so it's at a few minutes past 12. That howling power transformer is a distraction, I'll have to wrap it in some sound absorbing material especially as I like to add Westminster chimes to my clocks :-). The next step is to put it all together and tidy it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3840bE9Cs Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neoni...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3bdde14f-e15f-493e-842d-51dcb22c002c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b47303bf-9443-41ab-b2ef-3c3a1b165c90%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b47303bf-9443-41ab-b2ef-3c3a1b165c90%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CAHjG12QLTXpF%2B%2BFWgLRvdiv_DprjUSjFXEqXxTD9BSGP2Sj%3D5g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.