Re: Unknown
Peter Young, on 26 Nov, wrote: > On 26 Nov 2012 David Pitt wrote: > > > NetSurf #673 seems to have an aversion to all local html files, A > > "Warning from Netsurf" box opens which just reports "Unknown". This > > occurs on the ARMini and OS4.39 on VRPC. #672 is OK! > > > All I could find in the log is :- > > > (1.76) riscos/gui.c warn_user 2308: Unknown (null) > > > The complete log is at http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/unknown.zip with a > > minimalist html file sufficient to show the problem. > > Up to #674 here by now (they keep coming thick and fast; many thanks!) and > a local file on my HD renders fine for me. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. No idea > why. Very amateur home-brewed HTML, by the way! Thanks, #674 is OK. With thanks for the prompt fix. -- David Pitt
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Richard Porter wrote: > On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: >> In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >>> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >>> doesn't work raise a complaint. >> If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page >> clicking on 'News'. > I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was > working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, > even for the main bbc web site. Well, blow me down with a feather! I got in using the above URL and then going to News. I haven't deleted any cookies, and I'm now getting the "proper" site without using the desktop link. I'll have to check it again tomorrow. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: > In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >> doesn't work raise a complaint. > If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page > clicking on 'News'. So it does! Many thanks for pointing this out. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Unknown
On 26 Nov 2012 David Pitt wrote: > NetSurf #673 seems to have an aversion to all local html files, A "Warning > from Netsurf" box opens which just reports "Unknown". This occurs on the > ARMini and OS4.39 on VRPC. #672 is OK! > All I could find in the log is :- > (1.76) riscos/gui.c warn_user 2308: Unknown (null) > The complete log is at http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/unknown.zip with a > minimalist html file sufficient to show the problem. Up to #674 here by now (they keep coming thick and fast; many thanks!) and a local file on my HD renders fine for me. ARMini, RISC OS 5.19. No idea why. Very amateur home-brewed HTML, by the way! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: > In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >> doesn't work raise a complaint. > If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page > clicking on 'News'. I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, even for the main bbc web site. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: > In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >> I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that >> doesn't work raise a complaint. > If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page > clicking on 'News'. It seems to have gone right again. Maybe they got the message! -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article <7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, > I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that > doesn't work raise a complaint. If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'.
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Brian Jordan wrote: > In message <52f4c7c585t...@netsurf-browser.org> > Michael Drake wrote: >> In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, >>Peter Young wrote: >>> I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it >>> made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news >> I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile >> version of their site. > Same here. >> It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's >> useragent string contains "armv5l", which NetSurf's does when running on >> the Iyonix hardware. > Might be any "arm" in the useragent string. I am using a Virtual Acorn > and RISC OS Select 6.20 and the useragent string contains "armv4l" - I > see exactly the same as Peter. >> NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Unknown
NetSurf #673 seems to have an aversion to all local html files, A "Warning from Netsurf" box opens which just reports "Unknown". This occurs on the ARMini and OS4.39 on VRPC. #672 is OK! All I could find in the log is :- (1.76) riscos/gui.c warn_user 2308: Unknown (null) The complete log is at http://pittdj.co.uk/temp/unknown.zip with a minimalist html file sufficient to show the problem. -- David Pitt
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it > made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news > I reverted to #671, and it looks the same there. It renders perfectly > in Windows Firefox. The same sort of rubbish is visible on our local > BBC Gloucestershire site, so presumably the BBC web-people think > they've been clever again. I rather incline to thinking that it's > hardly worth raising a bug report on this, but will do so if people > think it's worth it. In the meanwhile, I've changed my homepage. Looks OK here, Peter - #671
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In message <52f4c7c585t...@netsurf-browser.org> Michael Drake wrote: > In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, >Peter Young wrote: >> I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it >> made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news > I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile > version of their site. Same here. > It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's > useragent string contains "armv5l", which NetSurf's does when running on > the Iyonix hardware. Might be any "arm" in the useragent string. I am using a Virtual Acorn and RISC OS Select 6.20 and the useragent string contains "armv4l" - I see exactly the same as Peter. > NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, >Peter Young wrote: >> I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it >> made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news > I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile > version of their site. Yes, that's what I get, I think. > It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's > useragent string contains "armv5l", which NetSurf's does when running on > the Iyonix hardware. Is there anything that can be done about that? I imagine not. > NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. So does Windows Firefox, as I mentioned. Thanks for the feedback, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article <6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it > made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile version of their site. It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's useragent string contains "armv5l", which NetSurf's does when running on the Iyonix hardware. NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
BBC news site misbehaving.
I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I reverted to #671, and it looks the same there. It renders perfectly in Windows Firefox. The same sort of rubbish is visible on our local BBC Gloucestershire site, so presumably the BBC web-people think they've been clever again. I rather incline to thinking that it's hardly worth raising a bug report on this, but will do so if people think it's worth it. In the meanwhile, I've changed my homepage. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
