Re: NetSurf 3.11 Released
In article , Michael Drake wrote: > NetSurf 3.11 is now available to download from > https://www.netsurf-browser.org/ > The biggest change to the core is improved CSS support, including > support for the "display: flex" property value, which improves the > layout of some web pages. There is also a new option in the Choices > to disable CSS. > A huge number of other changes have also been made including > new features, significant performance optimisations, stability > improvements, and other fixes. [Snip details] Many thanks, much appreciated. B -- _____ Brian Jordan brian.jord...@btinternet.com RISC OS 5.28 (16-Dec-20) on Raspberry Pi _ ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Please test the latest build
In article , Michael Drake wrote: > Please could you test the latest builds (5377 or later) from: > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ [Snip] #5378 now running here. -- _ Brian Jordan RISC OS 5.28 (16-Dec-20) on Raspberry Pi _ ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Typing Cyrillic
On 30 May, John-Mark Bell wrote: > clicking on "Google offered in: russkiy" (in the absence of any >> ability to submit Cyrillic in e-mail!) at the bottom of the page gives >> an error; doing the same thing on google.de, for example, does >> successfully switch the page over into searching in German. > As of CI build #5346, Google will serve up pages using the UTF-8 > encoding, so all this mess goes away. If you click on "This page offered in Russian" you get an error, but changing from http to https works, -- Brian Howlett -- This place would be a paradise tomorrow, if every department had a supervisor with a sub-machine gun. ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In article <59767da924d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: [Snip] > Ooeer! > I've just rechecked and that's what is presented after a *show > inetdbase*. I have just had a look at VA here and I get precisely this response to the same input. > Obviously I have no idea what it all means... RISC OS 6.20 hasn't been > touched/updated since December 2009. And a MeToo here. The rest of this thread has enabled me to get Fetch_NS going again although there doesn't seem to be a great deal new for me to fetch... B -- _____ Brian Jordan RISC OS 5.28 (19-Oct-20) on Raspberry Pi _ ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Netsurf suddenly fails to start
In article <595d8eeeb9d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > In article <595d865f5ad...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave wrote: [Snip] > It should start with "Exclaim" :-( It's OK Dave - we knew what you mwaned. B -- _____ Brian Jordan RISC OS 5.28 (19-Oct-20) on Raspberry Pi _ ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: antiClickJack
On 25 Apr, brian.jord...@btinternet.com wrote:
> In article <0f08bf2259.harr...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
>Harriet Bazley wrote:
> [Snip]
> > body{display:none !important;}
> > which has the effect of hiding the entire content of the page.
> [Snip]
> Great find, thank you.
> B
My interest piqued I have been looking at this and discovered (I say
'discovered' while suspecting this is well known) that using NetSurf's
Full save facility produces a page which can be opened. The layout is
something of a dog's breakfast and all pictures are pixellated but the
links I have tried so far work and lead to nicely laid out pages which
NetSurf is happy with.
Stuffed Eggs Béarnaise anyone?
'If a web page fails to render in Netsurf try a full save' now added to
my 'Things to Try' notes
NetSurf test builds 5278 and 5286
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Re: antiClickJack
In article <0f08bf2259.harr...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley wrote:
[Snip]
> body{display:none !important;}
> which has the effect of hiding the entire content of the page.
[Snip]
Great find, thank you.
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Re: Please test webp image format
On 8 Dec, David Higton wrote: > In message <514e111f-108b-c4aa-b35b-081f9544d...@codethink.co.uk> > Michael Drake wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Recently we added the webp library to our SDK. NetSurf Builds from our CI >> should now have webp support. >> >> So far we've only tested on Linux. Please could users of other platforms >> visit >> >>https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/gallery1 >> >> and let us know if it's working? > Working correctly here: BBxM, RO 5.27 (28-Oct-19), NS CI#4947. The pairs > of photos look identical to me. I had the wrong colours showing on this TiMachine yesterday, but just now with CI#4950 it works correctly. -- Brian Howlett - I stayed up all night playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house, and four people died.
Re: Google and #spf
On 23 Sep, Brian Howlett wrote: > Titanium here, JS enabled - works but vv slow with Netsurf 4851 and the > previous version I had installed, 4845. Actually, I may have to take that back - although it certainly worked in 4845, it eventually had a problem in 4851 - it just prints the JS to the NS window, along with the text normally displayed on the page. Neither version displays the Google Doodle wither, just a pink rectangle which is a .png file. -- Brian Howlett "There ain't half been some clever bastards" - the late Ian Dury
Re: Google and #spf
On 23 Sep, Dave wrote: > I can confirm... > #4850 with Javascript enabled, google.co.uk doesn't work. > With Javascript disabled, google does work okay. > VRPC-DL running RISC OS 6.20 Titanium here, JS enabled - works but vv slow with Netsurf 4851 and the previous version I had installed, 4845. -- Brian Howlett -- This place would be a paradise tomorrow, if every department had a supervisor with a sub-machine gun.
Re: Test
On 19 Aug, Peter Young wrote: > On 19 Aug 2019 Brian Howlett wrote: >> Apologies in advance... >> Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so >> this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to >> do so instead. > It arrived here, via Orpheus > Best wishes, > Peter. Finally got Hermes figured out, but as not relevant for this list I will add to the newsgroup thread instead. At least it's working now! -- Brian Howlett "Fish - visionary genius, or just a big haddie?"
Test
Apologies in advance... Issues sending to this list - using relay.plus.net has been failing, so this is just to test if I can use my hosting provider's SMTP server to do so instead. -- Brian Howlett "Fish - visionary genius, or just a big haddie?"
Re: The 3.9 Release
In article <20190721164517.iurgjow5ipdso...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > I am pleased to announce the latest release of NetSurf is now available. > NetSurf 3.9 features support for CSS Media Queries (level 4) and > improvements to JavaScript handling. > Also included are many bug fixes and improvements. > We recommend all users upgrade to NetSurf 3.9. Many thanks, this is much appreciated. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: 3.8 breaks text on left on some sites
On 19 Apr, Mayuresh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 07:34:03AM +0100, Peter Young wrote: >> Development version 3.9 (Dev CI #4572) on RISC OS makes a complete hash of >> this page. > Is that an issue with 3.8 for others also? Should it be logged as a bug? > Is downgrade to 3.7 the only solution right now? Well, as Peter says, if it's still happening in the latest development version, it's probably a bug, or maybe a piece of CSS or Javascript that isn't yet implemented. It displays the same with Javascript on or off. -- Brian Howlett - "A man with a briefcase can steal more money than any man with a gun" - Don Henley
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9
On 21 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote: [snip] > Yes, it is - but can you enter your password to log in? (Better take a copy > of the COokies file if you plan to experiment...) > Google now appear to have wrapped GMail into the concept of their general > 'Google Account', which I suspect is what is causing the problem. I forgot all about using Gmail with MPro - works just fine here. These are the settings I have in Hermes:- POP3 mail server - pop.gmail.com Port - 995 User name - (MyEmail)@gmail.com Password - You get the picture... Secure connection selected (SSL). Works a charm. -- Brian Howlett -- "Are you the Prime Minister?" "No, but I've often been mistaken." "What, for the Prime Minister?" "No. I've just often been mistaken..."
Re: Please try the latest build
In article <43bd28b6-0a6b-80db-f112-a1e5a014f...@codethink.co.uk>, Michael Drake wrote: > On 15/08/18 21:33, Peter Young wrote: > > Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a > > message to the general public? > I simply sent the e-mail to two mailing lists, so that > it would be seen by people who are only on one of them. > Both are public, but you might not be subscribed to both. Ah, is that what happened! 8-) Cheers,
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug, bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: > In article , >Michael Drake wrote: > > On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote: > > > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, > > >Michael Drake wrote: > > >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > > > > > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, > > >>and you can change the "correct" username and password > > >>by changing the URL.) > > > > > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. > Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document' > > Which platform are you testing on? > Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402 Ah, was your message ahead of build updates, perhaps? I updated within seconds of the message! Anyway, now running Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4405 - now appears to be functioning correctly. [snip] Best wishes Brian
Re: Please try the latest build
In article , Michael Drake wrote: > On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote: > > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, > >Michael Drake wrote: > >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > > > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, > >>and you can change the "correct" username and password > >>by changing the URL.) > > > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document' > Which platform are you testing on? Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402 > What exactly did you do? As instructed. > Can you send me the log file for the crash. I've saved the log file but forgotten where to send it Best wishes Brian
Re: Please try the latest build
In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > Hello, > Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from > latest master, if you compile from source.) >https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ > We are close to making a release, and would like to check that > nothing is broken. > I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run > the following platforms: > - Amiga > - Atari > - Haiku > - RISC OS > - Windows > We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, > so I would be grateful if people could check that anything > that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the > latest build. > If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication, > you can use: >https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar >(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, >and you can change the "correct" username and password >by changing the URL.) Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. [snip] Brian
Re: Image won't display
In article <570702972bli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > A very weird problem... > The page http://stronged.torrens.org/man/modes/syntaxmodefile.html which > I am writing. It has a line alt="clicklist/png" width="653" height="104"> But Netsurf won't display > the image. Chrome does it properly. > But http://stronged.torrens.org/man/modes/img/clicklist.png displays the > image! Not here, I'm getting 404 - Not Found > I am baffled.
Re: Text colour
In RISC OS build #4350 I see mainly white text on a black background. In article <000cb429.01e9b4902...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > Hi, > https://newsspaceflight.com/news-from-space-tech-expo/ > This page mostly show black text on a black background. > Atari build 4350. Is it the same in other ports ? > Peter -- _____ Brian Jordan RISC OS 5.23 on Raspberry Pi _
Re: URL crashes Netsurf
In article <56e87f0c06bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > In article <56e81c01ccli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) > wrote: > > This URL > > www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/uk > > causes Netsurf to totally crash on the ARMX6 with 5.23 (18-Feb-18). > > The crash is total, no log file, Alt-Brk does nothing. Ctrl-Brk does > > do a reset. > > Does it happen to anyone else? > No, not here. VRPC 4.02. Well, it does now!
Re: URL crashes Netsurf
In article <56e81c01ccli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > This URL > www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/uk > causes Netsurf to totally crash on the ARMX6 with 5.23 (18-Feb-18). > The crash is total, no log file, Alt-Brk does nothing. Ctrl-Brk does do a > reset. > Does it happen to anyone else? No, not here. VRPC 4.02.
Re: Forcing website menus to reveal themselves
On 23 February 2018 13:51:14 GMT+00:00, Tim Hill wrote: >I have never been able to get CSS-only drop-down menus to work in NS. Nor I. Typical is the "Results" tab in www.wodql.org.uk which behaves as expected when viewed in all other browsers I've tried; similarly the overflow of the last menu item, which could be related, is peculiar to NS. -- Sent from my Android tablet.
Re: Backyard Worlds
In article <000646f6.01e9b4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > Netsurf isn't able to open this link: > https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2018/02/14/we-love-you-and-happy-anniversary/ > It just says "Unable to fetch document" after ~20s. > In choices I have: > curl_fetch_timeout:180 > In can open it in Cab without difficulty. Opens quite quickly #4315 RISC OS 4.02 VRPC Brian
Re: Page causes crash
In article , Peter Young wrote: [Snip] > OT: I am, and I do. Aren't, and don't, we all? -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Page causes crash
In article <56932513adli...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > This may not be a Netsurf thing, but it happens rarely on anything other > than Nersurf. > The whole of this ARMX6's networking crashes. The only way I have found to > recover is a reset. > I have found a page which seems to cause this fairly reliably: > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/water-vole-hole.html > Does this happen to anyone else? No, and the vole looks quite happy too. > RO 5.23 (29-Jun-16) > NS 3.8 (Dev CI #4238) and earlier versions for some time. VRPC RISC OS 4.02 NS #4238
Re: Page layout
In article <5690f953cd...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: [Snip] > It's great example of a page which uses Javascript to no advantage but > even if hover-and-drop menus are implemented with only CSS they don't > work in NetSurf either. :-( Yeah. I spent ages some time back trying to get to the bottom of why I couldn't get some hover-and-drop CSS code to work. The reason was that I was using RISC OS to develop sites, mainly because of StrongED and the command line access to HTML Tidy, but then I was testing the code on Netsurf. I continue to use RISC OS to write web stuff but these days always test it in Chrome on the other side. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Page rendering
My buddy sent me the following, https://dezinfo.net/foto/82952-yentuziast-stroit-samolet-iz-bumagi-na-protyazhenii-9-let.html I was interested to compare the rendering under NetSurf and FireFox. Pity the video doesn't display under RISC OS. That isn't a complaint by the way. I'm just intrigued by the subject matter.
Re: Unable to Fetch document
In article <0011707f.01e9b4902...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: [Snip] > I updated to 4095 and that is the same. After 1-2mins: > Unable to fetch document > I suspect it is some sort of timing issue but other pages will render > after 15-20mins. > Peter As I have today update NetSurf to #4098 I thought I'd try this. The result is a full download of the page in, according to the message at the foot of the page, 16.4 seconds. "Done (16.4s)" My machine details in my signature. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Unable to Fetch document
In article <5645bd9c06bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > In article <56458bcf2dcvj...@waitrose.com>, >Chris Newman wrote: > > In article <000450a6.01e9b4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg > > wrote: > > > This page always returns "Unable to fetch document" on the Atari 4088 > > > m68k build. https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2017/05/19/thirteen-brown-dwarf-candidates-and-our-sensitivity-limits/ > > > Just wondered if other builds behave the same ? > > Took ges to open on my RiscPC with 3.7 (Dev CI#4095) but got there > > eventually. Just seemed to be text in monochrome. > Quite quick-ish here, VRPC RISC OS 4.02 (Dev CI #4097). Text in monochrome. Graph in colour. Page seems to be complete.
Re: Unable to Fetch document
In article <56458bcf2dcvj...@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman wrote: > In article <000450a6.01e9b4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg > wrote: > > This page always returns "Unable to fetch document" on the Atari 4088 > > m68k build. https://blog.backyardworlds.org/2017/05/19/thirteen-brown-dwarf-candidates-and-our-sensitivity-limits/ > > Just wondered if other builds behave the same ? > Took ges to open on my RiscPC with 3.7 (Dev CI#4095) but got there > eventually. Just seemed to be text in monochrome. Quite quick-ish here, VRPC RISC OS 4.02 (Dev CI #4097).
Re: info panel remains blank
On 27 May, Jim Nagel wrote: > In recent builds* of Netsurf, the info line at bottom left of main > window stays blank. In the past, it usefully showed the target URL > when the pointer was over a link in the main window. [snip] > * #4085 and #4088 -- here on Armini Ro 5.22 and ArmX6 5.23. Works fine here on build #4088. -- Brian Howlett - He's fallen in the water!
Re: Redraw oddity
In article <563d1ee6d9li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > https://www.quora.com/Where-does-iPhoto-store-photos-locally > At first this displays a blank page. But wipe over it with another > window... > Does anyone else get the same behaviour? > 3.7 (Dev CI #4086) on ARMX6 5.23 > (29-Jun-16) Not quite. Wiping over works, yes. But it seems that the scroll bar is in some way partially hidden which can be found if you poke around with mouse then the image is diplayed. VRPC 4.02 3.7 (Dev CI #4086)
Re: input focus
In article <4b8d703756@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: > I notice that the input focus -- often but not always -- goes to > Netsurf when I click on a link in an email that opens a web page. > This was not the case until fairly recently*. The input focus always > used to remain with the email window. [Snip] > Using Ro 5.23 on ArmX6, Ro 5.22 on Armini (Beagle). I confess to not having noted this as a change but I can confirm that as of now (using Netsurf #4085) the behaviour here is as Jim has described. A click on the Archive magazine link in the Pluto article viewer which has the input focus opens the web page in Netsurf and the Netsurf window gains the input focus. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Codethink sponsored work on NetSurf
Hi In article <8f376c96-35c5-d12d-74d3-67a316253...@codethink.co.uk>, Michael Drake wrote: > Over the past few weeks I've been able to spend time > contributing to open-source projects at work. > Codethink [1] values open-source software, and so I > was approved to work on NetSurf and related components > while I was between projects. I'd like to thank > Codethink for this opportunity, which I very much > value and appreciate. > What follows is a summary of the development I've been > able to accomplish during this time. > [1] http://www.codethink.co.uk/ [big snip] Personally, I'll never become a coder like until hell freezes over, but I found this missive really heart warming to read. Just great. Well done, one and all. > Cheers, > Michael Cheers Brian
Re: KYP West
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Brian [Bailey, we discover] wrote on 26 Mar: (re > http://www.kypwest.org.uk ) > > The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas > > gets the following, > > Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an > > upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET > > /kyp/southglos. Reason: Error reading from remote server > The Know Your Place site itself (http://kypwest.org.uk) seems to load > OK, but the indiv geographical areas you call pages from the Bristol > city council site, e.g. http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/?edition=glos > The page for the exhibition at Wells (near me) is also hosted on an > outside site (https://bishopspalace.org.uk), and Netsurf unforch has > pictures on top of text etc. So it does. > I know not whether the shortcoming is in Netsurf or in nonstandard > coding of the site, of course. I guess that the latter might probably be the case. Nonetheless it would be interesting to see what NatSurf can do with it in the fullness of time. > But thanks for the pointer, Brian. Will mention Know Your Place in the > local conservation newsletter I do. Well, KYP is of course of some limited interest, but at least three men and a dog locally definitely think it's a great idea. As a community project I feel that it has merit. It certainly is of historical interest and has come up with a number of surprises for me.
Re: KYP West
In article <562119693cbbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > In article , >Richard Porter wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2017 Tony Moore wrote: > > > On 22 Mar 2017, Brian wrote: > > >> This looks to a really interesting site > > > URL? > > > Tony > > I would hazard a guess that it might be http://www.kypwest.org.uk/ > That's correct. Sorry, I fired the email off before I remembered that I > had forgotten to include it. The site now seems to load but accessing individual geographic areas gets the following, Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /kyp/southglos. Reason: Error reading from remote server
Re: KYP West
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > On 22 Mar 2017 Tony Moore wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2017, Brian wrote: > >> This looks to a really interesting site > > URL? > > Tony > I would hazard a guess that it might be http://www.kypwest.org.uk/ That's correct. Sorry, I fired the email off before I remembered that I had forgotten to include it.
KYP West
This looks to a really interesting site but unfortunately doesn't work under NetSurf, which I guess is a Javascript problem. Are we very far off, perhaps?
Re: RESOLVED: [Was] Netsurf inconsistent behaviour between RISC OS 5.23 and 6.20
In article <5603e20e5c...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <5603a241a4brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan > wrote: [Snip] > /> > Appending any fake variable to the URL forces it to be loaded every > time the page is viewed and not just when the browser feels like it. You live and learn! Many thanks for this tip. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RESOLVED: [Was] Netsurf inconsistent behaviour between RISC OS 5.23 and 6.20
In article <56039cd7babrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <56033109cfbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, >Brian Jordan wrote: [Snip] >Today I discovered that NetSurf on the VA displays the site as intended > when it is loaded from my local mirror although it still doesn't work > properly with files from the www. "Aha!" you say "go through the site > until you find the discrepancy, it's probably a style sheet." "But," I > reply,"it still renders correctly on the same version of NetSurf on the > Pi when viewed via the www." Mystified and digging deeper. [Snip] After clearing out HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.WWW.NetSurf the problem has gone away. I suspect two versions of the relevant style sheet were being stored and that one was invoked when I loaded the online version of the site and the other when I loaded the local version. Anyway the site now displays as I intended in NetSurf #3966 whether it is downloaded or loaded locally both on both platforms and with both. versions of RISC OS. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Netsurf inconsistent behaviour between RISC OS 5.23 and 6.20
In article <56033109cfbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: [Snip] >If there is an inconsistency relating to OS versions I will file a > report to the NetSurf developers, if not I shall have to dig a lot > deeper here. Thanks B [Snip] Thanks all for your responses. I have been looking more closely at this and am beginning to think the problem is of my own making so, until I have probed further, I shall hold fire on sending anything to the developers. Today I discovered that NetSurf on the VA displays the site as intended when it is loaded from my local mirror although it still doesn't work properly with files from the www. "Aha!" you say "go through the site until you find the discrepancy, it's probably a style sheet." "But," I reply,"it still renders correctly on the same version of NetSurf on the Pi when viewed via the www." Mystified and digging deeper. PS. Jim, pinch away the design ideas aren't originally mine - I just pinched and modified them. FWIW the site was designed and laid out using RISC OS and NetSurf in particular. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Netsurf inconsistent behaviour between RISC OS 5.23 and 6.20
In article <56033109cfbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > The home page of www.clubmans.org.uk has a news area in the lower part. > It is intended that this is a scrolling and in all mainstream > browsers I have tried this is the case [1]. it is also the case in > NetSurf #3966 running under RISC OS 5.23 on my Raspberry Pi. However, > using the same browser to view the same page on this emulator with RISC > OS Select 6.20 the overflows. The most likely explanation is, as > ever, that this is a local issue and that I have missed the obvious but > to help define the problem I wonder if some of you would take a look and > let me know what you see and the OS version you are using? If there is an > inconsistency relating to OS versions I will file a report to the NetSurf > developers, if not I shall have to dig a lot deeper here. > Thanks > B > [1] HTML tidy reports the page as 4.01 Transitional//EN"> and I test in the Windows browsers because these > are what the majority of visitors us. On VRPC RISC OS 4.02 with NetSurf #3966 I see the lower section as scrolling information as you describe. Can't see any problem here.
Netsurf inconsistent behaviour between RISC OS 5.23 and 6.20
The home page of www.clubmans.org.uk has a news area in the lower part. It is intended that this is a scrolling and in all mainstream browsers I have tried this is the case [1]. it is also the case in NetSurf #3966 running under RISC OS 5.23 on my Raspberry Pi. However, using the same browser to view the same page on this emulator with RISC OS Select 6.20 the overflows. The most likely explanation is, as ever, that this is a local issue and that I have missed the obvious but to help define the problem I wonder if some of you would take a look and let me know what you see and the OS version you are using? If there is an inconsistency relating to OS versions I will file a report to the NetSurf developers, if not I shall have to dig a lot deeper here. Thanks B [1] HTML tidy reports the page as and I test in the Windows browsers because these are what the majority of visitors us. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Web page magnification
In article <55f8413d86dhw...@talktalk.net>, David H Wild wrote: > I am having problems reading because of a cataract which needs removing, > i find that I can read the screen fairly well if I increases the > magnification to 150%. Is there any way of telling NetSurf that this is > how I want all pages? when in Netsurf will bring up the "Scale view" dialogue; I imagine you know this already but to make this the default you need to over the NetSurf window and in the "Display" sub menu click on "Save as default". Good luck! -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <55efd852c1...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <55ef946fbbbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan > wrote: [Snip] > Or perhaps you are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not sure. If objectively reporting what I am seeing here with the latest release of NetSurf constitutes obtuseness then I plead guilty. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > In article , Richard Porter > > wrote: > >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > >>>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > >>>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even > >>>> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site > >>>> again. > >>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > >>> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > >>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content > >>> Choice option. > >>> #3798 works as expected. > >> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) > > Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. > How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me > that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that > it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen? > Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm > running? I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at: NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: css
In article <55d16e1f32li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: [Snip] > The first 3 links off that all contain > > which should align all the images right amongst other css. > It did work fine and still does on Chrome - but there seems to be more > to it! I've just tried with earlier versions back to 3709 and none > work. > So I deleted Netsurf's cache - and it now works properly again! I wonder if naming your stylesheet "...styles.css" might be at the root of this, if NetSurf already has a sheet with this, fairly common, name in a cache might it cause confusion? I try to use 'unguessable' names for my sheets, "...BJstyles.css" comes to mind. Just speculating. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: No-display page
In article <036018c5-50d5-622e-61b9-f2b702fac...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > On 24/09/16 11:34, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: http://www.petervis.com/Radios/sinclair-micromatic-pocket-radio/sinclair-micromatic-pocket-radio.html > > > > Does not display. > Should be fixed in the next build (#3717). Looks OK here with #3717. > Cheers,
Re: Site crasher NS
In article <55c2a0d199li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > http://nosher.net > Twice gives a window to accept certificate. On accepting second one, NS > dies. > 3.6 (Dev CI #3714) and a few prevous. Does thisa happen to others? Agreed.
Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn
In article , Dave Higton wrote: > In message <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net> > Jim Nagel wrote: [Snip] > Recent (as I type this) is #3672. I have #3672 here as well. I have just taken a look at the Jenkins NetSurf changes page and the most recent version reported there is #3543 (May 15, 2016 4:27 PM). Has the location of this information been changed or have no changes been made since that date? http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/changes -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn
In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 19 Aug 2016 Jim Nagel wrote: > > I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from > > base. Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me. > > One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free > > memory. > > What can I do to avoid this? I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or > > need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC. Haven't > > yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please. > Just a silly point, maybe. Why use NetSurf when you have much more > versatile browsers in Windows? NetSurf is excellent as far as it goes, > but can't compete with Chrome or Firefox on the dark side. Hi Peter, Use it all the time for reading HTML in Pluto email. Also, Firefox in Win 7. Horses for courses, depending on what I am doing. Wouldn't be without NetSurf now. Take care. Brian
Really odd one here!
I've got two newsletters here. One from PermaJet and another from Wisdom Books, both through Pluto. The PermaJet newsletter loads into NetSurf OK via the HTML file attachment. But, surprise, surprise, the HTML file attachment in the Wisdom Books newsletter belongs to the PermaJet newsletter and loads the PermaJet newsletter into NetSurf.??? Never ever seen this one before. My feeling is that the fault must lie with Pluto but could the fault lie elsewhere, perhaps? How could this happen? Any explanations to this one, please.
Re: Unrecognized or bad HTTP Content
On 5 Apr, Brian Howlett wrote: [snip] > Just for a laugh, I tried the above link in Oregano2, and it worked - > the page redirects to http://www.perryscider.co.uk/age-check so > visitors to the site can confirm they are over 18. > The link to that page does work in NS 3460. However, it then gives the same error when I tell it I'm 18 (or over...) Works OK in O2, so I guess it's a Javascript thing. It makes no difference if JS is on or off in Netsurf. -- Brian Howlett --- If you shoot a mime, should you use a silencer?
Re: Unrecognized or bad HTTP Content
On 5 Apr, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > www.perryscider.co.uk > This causes NS 3460 to report > Unrecognized or bad HTTP Content or Transfer-Encoding > Site works on Chrome, Browse. Causes Otter to crash. > Can't connect with Telnet Just for a laugh, I tried the above link in Oregano2, and it worked - the page redirects to http://www.perryscider.co.uk/age-check so visitors to the site can confirm they are over 18. The link to that page does work in NS 3460. -- Brian Howlett -- All electronic components run on smoke. If you let the smoke out, they stop working...
Re: multi-core processors
In article , Vince M Hudd wrote: > Brian wrote: > > It does beg the question. What happens when NetSurf runs in VRPC on a > > Win 7 machine with a multi-core processor? Does VRPC take advantage of > > multiple cores? > This isn't really a NetSurf question since you're asking about VRPC, so > I'm reluctant to answer it here. I've therefore sent my reply to it to > the VirtualAcorn mailing list. > I'm not sure if you subscribe, so now that the message has appeared, it > can be found in the list archive here: http://riscository.co.uk/pipermail/virtualacorn-list_riscository.co.uk/2016-March/002311.html Thank you. I was just curious.
Re: multi-core processors
In article <20160325182319.gl23...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 04:58:05PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: > > Some of the new Arm hardware running RiscOS (e.g. the ArmX6 and > > Titanium) has a multi-core processor. So far, of course, RiscOS lacks > > the ability to make use of the extra potential. > > > > Question occurs to me: what's the situation with the other platforms > > on which Netsurf runs -- Amiga, Atari, etc? Does multi-core ability > > exist in hardware there? > > > > Do the Netsurf developers have ideas for how Netsurf could take > > advantage of the extra processing power when the OSes allow it? > NetSurf is single-threaded, by design. It won't take direct advantange > of multiple cores. It'll still be faster on those systems which support > multiple CPUs, because the OS can run on one while NetSurf runs on > another. It does beg the question. What happens when NetSurf runs in VRPC on a Win 7 machine with a multi-core processor? Does VRPC take advantage of multiple cores? > B.
Re: unresizable web page (last bank standing)
In article <89691e5c55@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: > Richard Ashbery wrote on 5 Mar: > > Now downloaded C1 #3433 and image displays correctly. Resizing > > enlarges picture as expected. Text remains same size. > Yes, here too, having newly updated to #3433. Same here, looks to be perfect. > So thanks to the Netsurf team for correcting whatever it was. [snip]
Re: Very slow download
In article <20160216093631.gv7...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:23:45AM +0000, Brian wrote: > > #3410 downloaded this morning, unusually, very slowly. Any reason, > > perhaps? > 2016-02-16 09:36:12 (3.64 MB/s) - NetSurf-gcc--3410.zip saved > [3842257/3842257] > Works for me. > B. #3413 (104kB/s) which works, sort of.
Very slow download
#3410 downloaded this morning, unusually, very slowly. Any reason, perhaps?
Re: Big push on testing needed
In article <5548c5c513cvj...@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman wrote: > In article <3bc72c4755.davem...@my.inbox.com>, >Dave Higton wrote: > > Big news... > > Current test (CI) builds are now release candidates. Yes, a new > > release of NetSurf is imminent. > > Please, everybody, download the latest test build (which will, > > of course, change as bugs are found and fixed), give it a good > > thrashing, and get your bug reports in. > > Please also note that, since it's now close to release time, the > > Javascript setting in Choices->Content is obeyed (and has been > > for a couple of days or so now). > Greetings from sunny Australia (gloat, gloat), > The 38 Degrees petition page at > https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Scotland-stop-CETA > Is a bit of a pigs dinner. It takes ages to load, frames overlap & the > signing link doesn't work. 10.2 secs here and only one frame overlaps. Not really a pig's dinner, not even a dog's breakfast, I would think!?! Don't know about the signing in link, something happens but not sure if it does so correctly, or not. #3315 on VRPC 4.02 > Dev CI #3315 on Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 > Same effects with JS on or off. > Works OK using Maxthon browser on the Windows side. > Does anyone see the same effects?
Re: Big push on testing needed
In article <3bc72c4755.davem...@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > Big news... > Current test (CI) builds are now release candidates. Yes, a new > release of NetSurf is imminent. > Please, everybody, download the latest test build (which will, > of course, change as bugs are found and fixed), give it a good > thrashing, and get your bug reports in. > Please also note that, since it's now close to release time, the > Javascript setting in Choices->Content is obeyed (and has been > for a couple of days or so now). > Dave Fetching websites seems to storm along at a rate of knots. Has something been done to NetSurf to enable this?
Re: Very slow page rendering
In article <553f4721debrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <000a3379.01eff490b...@smtp.freeola.net>, >Peter Slegg wrote: > > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/atari/gemtk/guiwin.c > > This page takes abut 20mins to download and render, Highwire browser > > takes about 6sec. > > I think the difference is that Highwire doesn't handle the css > > so maybe there could be some performance gains to be had in > > either downloading or the css handling ? > FWIW on this virtual RPC with JavaScript and css running the > download/render process takes c10.5 seconds. c6.5 secs Win7 VRPC with JS
Re: Very slow page rendering
In article <000a3379.01eff490b...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/atari/gemtk/guiwin.c > This page takes abut 20mins to download and render, Highwire browser > takes about 6sec. > I think the difference is that Highwire doesn't handle the css > so maybe there could be some performance gains to be had in > either downloading or the css handling ? FWIW on this virtual RPC with JavaScript and css running the download/render process takes c10.5 seconds. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout
In article <553f34b7e2...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <553f246478bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian > wrote: > > In article <0002ff1d.01eff4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg > > wrote: > > > > I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just > > > > could not fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the > > > > following, > > > > http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van-oosterhout > > > > > > > > some sort of photography!?! > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > Is that url complete ? > > > All I get is "Bad redirect URL" > > No problem here, Peter. No explanation either.!?! > > Try removing the > > (don't know what you call those thingys) the line > > wrap seems to make no difference. > I find it useful to refer to punctuation using their HTML entities (when > the recipient has half a chance of understanding) but there's no telling > how > will be treated between my fingers and your eyes. I've heard < > (<) and > (>) referred to as 'angle brackets' so > (>) would > be 'closing angle bracket' and you see why I use > instead. Thank you, Tim. I knew that they had to have 'proper' nomenclature. The angle brackets I'm mostly used to were usually made from 3/8in mild steel, or thereabouts. Brian
Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout
In article <0002ff1d.01eff4901...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > > I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just could > > not fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the following, > > http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van-oosterhout > > > > some sort of photography!?! > > > > Brian > > > > > Is that url complete ? > All I get is "Bad redirect URL" No problem here, Peter. No explanation either.!?! Try removing the > > (don't know what you call those thingys) the line wrap seems to make no difference. Brian
Re: The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout
In article <553e5f2a40ris...@gotadsl.co.uk>, Richard Ashbery wrote: > In article <553e513519bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian > wrote: > > I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just could > > not fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the following, > > http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van-oosterhout > > some sort of photography!?! > I'm afraid Brian - in this case the credit should be given to the > photographer not our wonderful NetSurf Team. Well, you've got to start somewhere. > As soon as you enter the site with NetSurf 3.4 (Dev C1 #3252) there is a > large amount of white space on the right-hand-side before you get to > Corne's photography which I must confess is brilliant. Yes, but I disregarded the white space. > Text overlaps the right-hand margin which makes it difficult to read. Now that is odd because that isn't happening here. Also #3252. > A couple of the pictures are quite extraordinary - it reveals the > 'Nictitating' membrane that covers the eye to protect the bird when > diving for fish. Superb :-)) That is what I was drawn to, too. Yes, indeed. Superb 8-)) Brian
The Kingfisher by Corne van Oosterhout
I know that this is very much a technical newsgroup but I just could not fail to be impressed how well NetSurf renders the following, http://totallycoolpix.com/magazine/2016/01/the-kingfisher-by-corne-van-oosterhout some sort of photography!?! Brian
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
In article <7b97583c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > > At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have > > been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as > > 1 hour in advance (double correction). > > The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your > > feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, > > with and without DST in force. > > There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. > Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. Works here too, #3249, RISC OS 4.02, VRPC. Regards Brian
Re: AA dog rescue nothing loads
On 25 Dec, Dave Higton wrote: [snip] > The page is an untidy sprawling mess of Javascript, whether or not > Javascript is enabled in NetSurf. But I haven't looked in any more > detail. [snip] Not only is it an untidy sprawling mess of Javascript, it's all in the tags, so I'm surprised it's visible in any browser... -- Brian Howlett -- This place would be a paradise tomorrow, if every department had a supervisor with a sub-machine gun.
Re: Slightly odd behaviour #3225
In article <73bae93255.jan-j...@armx6.gmx.com>, Jan-Jaap van der Geer wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > On 16 Dec 2015 Jan-Jaap van der Geer > > > wrote: > > > > - Quit NetSurf > > > > - Open a taskwindow > > > > - Enter: > > > > *uridispatch http://www.ikke.no/ > > > > What happens? > > > > I would expect NetSurf to start and open a window with > > > > www.ikke.no. > > Not wishing to cause confusion, but why would one wish to work > > that way, as above? Don't get it at the moment. > I don't want to work that way, but this is more or less the way > Messenger and other applications open links. So by reproducing the > problem with URIDispatch I take Messenger out of the loop, we know > it hasn't anything to do with Messenger. > Cheers, > Jan-Jaap OK, thanks, Jan-Jaap, understood. Got me worried there. I'll stick with Pluto. Regards Brian
Re: Slightly odd behaviour #3225
In article <50cad93255.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 16 Dec 2015 Jan-Jaap van der Geer wrote: > > Brian wrote: > >> In article , Peter Young > >> wrote: > >>> No idea, but I've also never had a problem with clicking on a > >>> link in Messenger Pro, unless it's one that NetSurf can't open > >>> anyway. Sorry not to be helpful! > >> Also, perhaps not very helpful, clicking on a link in Pluto, so > >> far as I can remember, always works here. > > Are we talking about the same thing here? > Possibly not. I was referring to double-clicking an HTML file on my > hard disc. However ... > > - Quit NetSurf > > - Open a taskwindow > > - Enter: > > *uridispatch http://www.ikke.no/ > > What happens? > > I would expect NetSurf to start and open a window with www.ikke.no. > ... and I've tried that, using both http://www.ikke.no/ and > www.google.co.uk in a taskwindow, with NetSurf not running, and in > both cases NetSurf loads and the page is opened. Not wishing to cause confusion, but why would one wish to work that way, as above? Don't get it at the moment. > Best wishes, > Peter. Regards Brian
Re: Slightly odd behaviour #3225
In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 Jan-Jaap van der Geer wrote: > > Peter Young wrote: > >> On 15 Dec 2015 Jan-Jaap van der Geer wrote: [snip] > No idea, but I've also never had a problem with clicking on a link in > Messenger Pro, unless it's one that NetSurf can't open anyway. Sorry > not to be helpful! Also, perhaps not very helpful, clicking on a link in Pluto, so far as I can remember, always works here. > No idea about AcornURI, mine seems to be 0.25, (02 Sep 2013), but I > have no idea who wrote it. > Best wishes, > Peter. Regards Brian
Re: Slightly odd behaviour #3225
In article , Chris Young wrote: > On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:08:31 + (GMT), Brian wrote: > > Double clicking on an HTML icon now only loads NetSurf. A further > > double click is now needed to load the HTML file. Previously, a single > > double click on the file icon was all that was needed to load the file > > into NerSurf. > This was my fault, sorry, should now be fixed. Ah, well done. Thanks. I was beginning to think that I was having a brain storm or something. Though it wouldn't have been much of a storm at my age. 8-) Brian
Slightly odd behaviour #3225
Double clicking on an HTML icon now only loads NetSurf. A further double click is now needed to load the HTML file. Previously, a single double click on the file icon was all that was needed to load the file into NerSurf.
Re: Flickr
In article <552270b733joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams wrote: > Attempting to view a photo of the PiTop at: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/andymarks1970/22992712162/ > does not render the photo, yet it has been pointed out to me that it does > work with NetSurf 3.1, and for me here with an old 3.0. Yuk, I would confirm that, #3062. > 3.3 fails to render the image, as do later development versions, but I do > not have sufficient stock of older versions to isolate when the problem > started. > If anyone does have adequate numbers of earlier versions to find out at > what development version the trouble started, I'm sure that information > would help the developers greatly! Regret, unable to help there. > John
Re: #2988 hanging
On 12 Oct, Gavin Wraith wrote: > Twice in succession now I have found that NetSurf #2988, with Javascript > disabled, hangs when I try to browse http://kenodoxia.blogspot.com/. > This is on an Rpi 2 with RO 5.23. > When I switch on again I check the SD card with DiscKnight. On the first > occasion there were 9 faults. Mend them with DiscKnight and try again. > The same happens, but the second time there were 11 faults. After > mending the second time I recheck the SD card. SD card OK. Site works fine here on Iyonix, with RO 5.22 and NS #2992, with JS on or off. -- Brian Howlett -- "A man with a briefcase can steal more money than any man with a gun" - Don Henley
Re: Fail 2890 json
In article , David Pitt wrote: > "Gerald Dodson", on 13 Aug, wrote: > > Has any one else had this version fail? > Try #2911 or later. Well, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33867962 now seems to be OK with #2916. Is that the answer you were looking for?
Re: Something went wrong between 2873 and 2874
In article <80739ff154.davem...@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33867962 causes NS to silently > evaporate from CI 2874 onwards - up to 2873 is OK. Evaporates with #2890, too. > I have reported it. > 2874 onwards also fails to view the report in Mantis - which gives > another URL to try. > Dave
Re: Saving Choices
In article , Gavin Wraith wrote: > I have noticed that "Disable JavaScript" appears not to be saved > in .WWW.NetSurf.Choices. Is that right? > Using NS 3.4 #2876 That seems to be the case. >From the Jenkins changes log: #2872 (9th August) "2. Permanently enable display of the 'enable javascript UI options'" Does this mean that on other platforms there is now a javascript on/off button or menu option which does away with the need to permanently save this preference? If so maybe this won't work in the RISC OS version until the UI is updated. Only guessing. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Slashdot strangeness
In article , Dave Higton wrote: > In message <54e917b892bbai...@argonet.co.uk> > Brian wrote: > >In article <68c6ebe854.davem...@my.inbox.com>, > > Dave Higton wrote: > >> I've noticed many times recently that sometimes, when I double-click > >> the hotlist entry for Slashdot, the window opens, the throbber goes > >> round, but nothing arrives, nor does it time out. When this happens, > >> if I click stop, put the caret in the URL bar and press Return, the > >> page is fetched. > > > >> Does anyone else see the same symptoms? This is on an Iyonix, RO > >> 5.22, 512 MiB RAM, and with various recent CI versions (I check for > >> a new CI version daily) over at least 2 weeks. > > > >> I am aware that Slashdot has had some problems recently (hardware > >> failure), though I'd have thought they would be over by now. > > > >> I haven't noticed any other site show these symptoms. It doesn't > >> happen every time. > > > >> http://slashdot.org > > > >> Dave > > > >Yes, it does that here too. VRPC, RISC OS 4.02. Still happening here! #2869 > Just to bring this to a close, from my POV anyway... > I didn't want to raise a bug report until I had something more > substantial for the developers to work on - after all, the symptoms > could have been caused by a local problem. However, more recent > builds haven't exhibited the problem at all. > Dave > > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager
Re: Slashdot strangeness
In article <68c6ebe854.davem...@my.inbox.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > I've noticed many times recently that sometimes, when I double-click > the hotlist entry for Slashdot, the window opens, the throbber goes > round, but nothing arrives, nor does it time out. When this happens, > if I click stop, put the caret in the URL bar and press Return, the > page is fetched. > Does anyone else see the same symptoms? This is on an Iyonix, RO > 5.22, 512 MiB RAM, and with various recent CI versions (I check for > a new CI version daily) over at least 2 weeks. > I am aware that Slashdot has had some problems recently (hardware > failure), though I'd have thought they would be over by now. > I haven't noticed any other site show these symptoms. It doesn't > happen every time. > http://slashdot.org > Dave Yes, it does that here too. VRPC, RISC OS 4.02. Brian
Re: Crash with #2860
In article <98959be554.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 19 Jul 2015 David Pitt wrote: > > David Pitt, on 19 Jul, wrote: > >> David Pitt, on 19 Jul, wrote: > >> > >>> "Chris Young", on 19 Jul, wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:57:04 +0100, David Pitt wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> NetSurf opens a local home page here on startup. Reboot the > >>>>> machine, start NetSurf, quit NetSurf then restart NetSurf, crash. > >>>>> This starts with #2859 and also happens with #2860, however #2858 > >>>>> seems OK. If NetSurf is restarted without opening a home page then > >>>>> the crash happens on clicking on its iconbar icon. > >>>> > >>>> Actually, try 2862, that's more likely to fix it. > >>> > >>> Or not. I have posted a log at :- > >>> > >>> http://www.pittdj.co.uk/temp/ns2862.zip > >>> > >>> I will get something on the bug tracker. > >>> > >> http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2334 > > #2863 fixes it. > > Many thanks. > And from me. Agreed. Cheers Brian
Re: Crash with #2860
In article <14a182e554.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > I can't raise a bug report for this, as the bug-reporting page was > off-line when I tried just now. I'll try again later today. > ARMX6, RISC OS 5.21. I downloaded #2860, which immediately crashed > when I opened my home page, www.bbc.co.uk/news. I shut the machine > down. and this time the home page loaded, but when I tried to open > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 NetSurf crashed again; I have the > logfile. I reverted to #2856, which behaved. > Has anyone else found this? If so, I'll raise a proper bug report when > I can do. Exactly the same here Peter, I too have reverted to #2856. BJ -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Crash with #2860
In article <14a182e554.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > I can't raise a bug report for this, as the bug-reporting page was > off-line when I tried just now. I'll try again later today. > ARMX6, RISC OS 5.21. I downloaded #2860, which immediately crashed when > I opened my home page, www.bbc.co.uk/news. I shut the machine down. and > this time the home page loaded, but when I tried to open > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 NetSurf crashed again; I have the > logfile. I reverted to #2856, which behaved. > Has anyone else found this? If so, I'll raise a proper bug report when > I can do. Yes, Peter, it crashes. Tested several times. Brian
Re: !Fetch_NS
In article , Peter Young wrote: [Snip] > I've just discovered that the version I have is by Frank de Bruijn. This is directly available from Frank's site www.aconet.org/tools/ BJ -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Google
In article <54c3467e90ris...@gotadsl.co.uk>, Richard Ashbery wrote: > In article <54c2328532joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams > wrote: > > In article <1c3b90c054.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > > wrote: > > > I think it's absolutely essential that we have a javascript > > > on/off button on the toolbar. If javescript is off google won't > > > work and if it's on streetmap.co.uk won't work. > I've just tried Google again with Javascript off and a search works > normally. Anyone able to confirm? Seems to be true here as well. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: More disc cache improvements
In article <0c9680c054.andrew-...@waitrose.com>, [snip] > More measurements: > Various sites including BBC election coverage: 212787 bytes/second > Relaunch, load home page only and quit: 0 bytes/second ??? > Same again, but force a refresh and then quit: 31146 bytes/second > Same again, but after the buxtonweather.co.uk site has done its > regular update (every five minutes): 0 bytes/second > A wide range of sites, mostly new to me: 328299 bytes/second > I'm curious that there is so much variability! Yes, me too. Seemingly, large variance here too. Kind regards Brian
Re: More disc cache improvements
In article <20150505103028.gg19...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > Further to my previous efforts I have made an attempt to improve the > disc cache performance even more. I would again be grateful if > suitably interested users could try test CI build 2771 or later. [snip] > I would be interested in getting the details from using the updated > test release in the same way as previously detailed. (The overall > bandwidth message from the log) OK. VRPC, 4.02, content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3361: Backing store average bandwidth 15983181 bytes/second Hope that this is useful. > I am especially interested in testing from the Iyonix as this was > right on the edge of usefulness previously. It is probably not worth > bothering with the RPi and ARM mini platforms as their reported > bandwidth last time was awful and I do not envisage an improvement of > that many orders of magnitude.
Re: Hot List
In article <20150501083236.GF23045@somnambulist.local>, Daniel Silverstone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 19:56:38 +0100, Dave Higton wrote: > > > would it be practicable to sponsor support of the the RISC OS side > > > of NetSurf under the ROOL sponsorship scheme? I should be glad to > > > contribute if such a scheme were to be implemented. > > > > Financial incentives don't appear to have made any difference so far. > Quite frankly, unless there was enough money to actually properly employ > an engineer, most people are low on time rather than low on motivation. > (At least regarding anything a few quid could resolve) Then the ROOL sponsorship scheme is quite pointless, yes??? 8-(
Re: Hot List
In article <54b9784cbfli...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Could you change the saving of the hot list? > At present it only saves when NS is quit - a pain if you have just made > changes and NS quits1 > It either needs a Menu Item: Save Hot List or it should save > automatically when changed. Reading this thread with some dismay. However, would it be practicable to sponsor support of the the RISC OS side of NetSurf under the ROOL sponsorship scheme? I should be glad to contribute if such a scheme were to be implemented.
Re: Unable to report a bug.
In article <85ea9bb454.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 15 Apr 2015 Brian Jordan wrote: > > In article , > >Peter Young wrote: > >> On 14 Apr 2015 Peter Young wrote: > >>> I have tried to report this on the bug tracker, but can't. It didn't > >>> accept my username and password, I have tried twice to change the > >>> password, and still can't get in. Perhaps someone who can access the > >>> tracker might kindly like to report it. > >>> ARMini, RISC OS 5.18, NS #2720 > >>> I tried to access http://www.remapglos.org.uk/ and get "Warning from > >>> NetSurf: OK". The site works properly on Chrome in Windows. I have the > >>> relevant logfile. > >> I have now been able to report this using Windows Chrome, but still > >> can't do it with RISC OS NetSurf. Why, I wonder? > > If you want to enhance your report Netsurf is being tripped up by the > > following meta statement within the of the document. > > > "text/html; charset=us-ascii" /> > > An interesting page in many ways, running it through HTML Tidy here > > throws up a lot of warnings and concludes "Info: Document content looks > > like HTML Proprietary" > Thanks, Brian, and I've added a note, even though I don't understand > what you say! > The NetSurf site seems to have had a hiccup this morning, in that I > could neither log in nor download the latest version. Indeed, it did. All I could achieve was a timeout. > All seems to be > well now, and I can log in to the bug tracker using NetSurf once more. > Best wishes, > Peter.
Re: Unable to report a bug.
In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 14 Apr 2015 Peter Young wrote: > > I have tried to report this on the bug tracker, but can't. It didn't > > accept my username and password, I have tried twice to change the > > password, and still can't get in. Perhaps someone who can access the > > tracker might kindly like to report it. > > ARMini, RISC OS 5.18, NS #2720 > > I tried to access http://www.remapglos.org.uk/ and get "Warning from > > NetSurf: OK". The site works properly on Chrome in Windows. I have the > > relevant logfile. > I have now been able to report this using Windows Chrome, but still > can't do it with RISC OS NetSurf. Why, I wonder? If you want to enhance your report Netsurf is being tripped up by the following meta statement within the of the document. An interesting page in many ways, running it through HTML Tidy here throws up a lot of warnings and concludes "Info: Document content looks like HTML Proprietary" -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Updated disc cache
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: [Snip] > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. [Snip] (152.54) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing store average bandwidth 561256 bytes/second -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: Updated disc cache
[snip] > I would suggest that any of you using the disc cache to delete it > before running a NetSurf CI version after #2696 NetSurf will continue > to run just fine if you do not but all the old cache files will be > left behind and never cleaned up. Is there a ',' or an '.' missing somewhere? The meaning is slightly fuzzy. [snip]
#2674 page layout rendering
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/reviews/lenses/canon-ef-11-24mm-f4l-usm-review?utm_campaign=20150323-qap-x-nwl-tw-amateurphotographer-24-03-2015&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=20150323_QAP-X_NWL_TW_AmateurPhotographer&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua Errors in page layout rendering.
Re: AJAX
In article <54a6c33af1brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <54a6c02a46bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian > wrote: > > I receive a monthly newsletter. The latest cannot be read. NS says > > 'This browser is not AJAX enabled'. What's that all about, please? Is > > there a way round it so that the newsletter can be read? > AJAX is an ACRONYM for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML. The concensus, > from a few articles I have just read, seems to be that JavaScript has to > be enabled in order to avoid this message. Maybe enabling JavaScript in > NetSurf, if you haven't already done so, will be sufficient? I say this > because some sites seem to test for the presence of JS even if it isn't > actually needed in order to display (at least some of) the content. JS is enabled. > > Should I complain to the sender, perhaps? They are a large company. > Probably not worth the bother I'm afraid. Unless you want the usual > corporate "We have optimised..." reply. Yeah, well. I'm sure that are right. But I thought that I would ask anyway. I would add that I am finding NS to be increasingly useful for most of my correspondence of this type and as I prefer to use RISC OS (VRPC, Win 7) this is encouraging.
Re: AJAX
In article <54a6c02a46bbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > I receive a monthly newsletter. The latest cannot be read. NS says 'This > browser is not AJAX enabled'. What's that all about, please? Is there a > way round it so that the newsletter can be read? AJAX is an ACRONYM for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML. The concensus, from a few articles I have just read, seems to be that JavaScript has to be enabled in order to avoid this message. Maybe enabling JavaScript in NetSurf, if you haven't already done so, will be sufficient? I say this because some sites seem to test for the presence of JS even if it isn't actually needed in order to display (at least some of) the content. > Should I complain to the sender, perhaps? They are a large company. Probably not worth the bother I'm afraid. Unless you want the usual corporate "We have optimised..." reply. -- _____ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 8.1 Pro RISC OS 6.20 _
Re: AJAX
In article <20150319102513.go18...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:10:44AM +0000, Brian wrote: > > I receive a monthly newsletter. The latest cannot be read. NS says > > 'This browser is not AJAX enabled'. What's that all about, please? Is > > there a way round it so that the newsletter can be read? > AJAX -> Asynchronous Javascript and XML. It is a term used to describe > applications that run in the browser and use XML to communicate to the > server. > Why anybody would consider using this for a newsletter is beyond me. > Regardless, anything AJAX won't work in NetSurf yet. Clearly so. > > Should I complain to the sender, perhaps? They are a large company. > You could always ask them to send a news letter as, you know, text. In > an email. Companies seem to forget you can do that. Well, it's not desperate, but the company have agreed to send information that is semi-legal/financial, so I am just a bit irritated. But I will have a gentle moan at them. Thanks for the information. Most helpful! B
