Re: Cut to clipboard
In article 20ed3b7953.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: ... it *is* possible already to select a section, cut it to the clipboard, and paste it elsewhere. It would be nice (and safer) if overtyping had the same effect. The main argument I can see against it is that people might conceivably want to copy text to the clipboard, delete a block of text by overtyping with a backspace, and then paste the former clipboard contents; I would strongly support the argument against it. In many applications (and most of the ones I use) deletion, whether by over typing or using the Delete key, is separate from the clipboard. The only thing I use where deleted or over typed text goes to the clipboard is Pluto, and it is extremely annoying. Even though I know about it, I still trip up from time to time. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Cut to clipboard
I used to do a lot of work in Impression and accidentally catching CTRL-A when intending SHIFT-A and seeing all my work disappear as I typed the next letter, with no undo. Not really a desirable behaviour. But the answer to having no undo against accidental deletion is to add undo, or have a warning on big deletions (like Pluto does when you delete more than 3 messages at once), not to mix up deletion with the clipboard mechanism. After all if you do cut in one place and are about to do paste in another when you wipe out the clipboard contents by putting deleted material in there, then you have still got a problem. The only possible exception I could think of is if there is a multi-level clipboard, so you can add the new stuff and still preserve what was there before. But we don't have that on RISC OS AFIA. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Cut to clipboard
F8 undoes the last action, but I guess there's a limit to the number of times you can go back. Er, F8 has always meant 'View source' in all versions of NetSurf I can remember... So it does, but I have never tried to Undo in NetSurf, since it isn't an editor. (Somehow typing in a box on a web page feels more like interacting with the website than using an editor.) Anyway, since F8 is the RISC OS standard Undo I would never have thought of using it for anything else. If I want to view source I just use F3 and drop it onto StrongEd. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Paypal Order status/Actions
In My Account on Paypal in the Order status/Actions column there are (for items sold): Print postage label, Add tracking info, Mark as sent, Issue refund. (This is with Netsurf and Javascript disabled. Dev Cl #1298. Having JS on just gives a blank page.) I have found similar behaviour on several websites. I suspect it means that the facilities are provided by JS functions that NS doesn't yet support (hence the blank page) but that when the website detects the absence of JS it provides non-JS alternative versions. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Slow image display
I imagine that a user was never expected to post something so huge. But many people who take and transmit photos have no concept of file size, including people who contribute to (or manage) websites. Software that automatically scales pictures to fit the context (and intrinsically helpful thing to do) aggravate the problem by hiding from them the consequences of what they are doing. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: streetmap.co.uk
... via their older interface at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm ... the map display is only in the new format which Netsurf apparently cannot display. It has changed, and it is annoying, but what I get with NS 3.00 (and RO5.18) is better than that. It all works normally as far as displaying the first map. At that point I used to edit the z= value in the URL to a small to a small even number (eg 2 or 4) which gave a much more useful 5x5 square display, but if I do that now it jumps to the new format and tries to fit 25 map squares into the 3x3 window, making a right mess. If I use any control (scale or move) it also jumps to the new format. Most of the controls in the new format work OK, and there is one to switch to 5x5, so you don't need to edit the URL. The one thing that doesn't work is the search box. The Go button seems to work, but I can't find a way to type into the search field. I just tried it with Dev #953 (the latest I had loaded) and (a) it goes straight to a new style page to offer you the alternative places, which works but then (b) displays a blank map on which (c) none of the controls work. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: streetmap.co.uk
... Streetmap hasn't changed recently... It has! I use it regularly and the behaviour changed (as per my previous posting) about a week ago. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: streetmap.co.uk
But if javascript is on - then it does not work at all, doesn't display the No javascript message and doesn't progress (no change there either!)... Maybe this is your problem? Hadn't explicitly thought about that, but I just (3.0) with JS enabled and JS disabled. The behaviour seems to be the same. (But one thing I reported before was incorrect. Changing scale keeps you in the old format. It's just moving the centre that jumps to new format.) Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: nbsp; Non-breaking space.
Browsers know not to split a line at a non-breaking space, don't they? Except Netsurf? Yes it's a long-standing bug. I assume 'long standing' only relates to 3.x. 2.9 behaves correctly. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Toolbar Customisation
Perhaps the correct information to provide to Ken, is that the toolbar on the GTK version of NetSurf is not cutomisable. OTOH, if GTK provides a context sensitive menu using a different button, then try that over the toolbar and see what happens. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: RISC OS Javascript support
OK, the CI system just built #740 Bad news - loops on Iyonix, needs alt-break to stop. That's odd. 740 has been happily running here in Iyonix (5.18) since I downloaded it earlier. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: NetSurf Developer Workshop
Most of the JS I've ever encountered ... IME JS is often used to hide e-mail addresses from web crawlers looking for spam fodder. Currently such addresses (and sometimes the associated names) are invisible. Tt will be a great improvement being able to see them. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Deleting subset of cookies
you can find the lines which contains the domain entries that you want to find... and then just delete those lines with an editor. Not very comfortable... I had a cleanup using that technique, and managed to lose the LinkedIn persistence cookie. Even when I tried to revert, it would no longer work, which is a pain because the LinkedIn login won't work with NetSurf. I'm not sue how I originally managed to get the persistence cookie. It must have come with an invitation or something. I'm hoping another will come at some point, because while going to my wife's Macbook is OK for urgent things it's too much hassle for normal scanning. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: NetSurf 2.9 released
Thank you Michael and the rest of team Hear, hear! (at the risk of clogging the list). -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: advert overprints text (The Reg)
Unfortunately, in Netsurf the HP-Microsoft ad overprints the text. Set 'Hide advertisements' in Choices - Contents. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: r13362 'seriour error' bug
'serious error' at http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/ I'm still using r13355, as none of the builds since then seem to have affected the RISC OS version. This URL doesn't cause a crash for me, but gets a page not found. I'm still using r13351, and this page seems to work OK Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Error converting PNG
In article 856d4d3552.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Every picture I view from the Railway Herald site's Imaging Centre causes Error converting PNG to flash briefly on the bottom line, but only when the image is viewed for the first time - refreshing the image, or going back to one recently visited, doesn't show the message. The main image is always displayed successfully, though. Example URL: http://www.railwayherald.com/imaging.centre/showimage.php?image=214023gallery=X3 No problem here: r13086 -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Fragment identifiers, PHP, and NetSurf
In article 5228d86a93joh...@ukgateway.net,
John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote:
I find that, whilst a URL file containing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/#latenight
takes me directly to the Late section in NetSurf, the same URL sent from
PHP as a header('Location: ...) function seems to lose the fragment
identifier altogether and just loads the base page.
I am puzzled as to why this only happens with NetSurf.
This might be completely unconnected, but I have noticed that if I drag a
URL containing a fragment identifier from NetSurf to something else
(StrongEd, WebWonder, or whatever) only the base URL gets copied across,
like this, in the example above:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm
Regards
--
John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch
Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error? I just did a manually initiated mail fetch while NetSurf was loading a page, with no adverse effect. (r13065) Do you specifically mean rendering, as opposed to downloading? The pages I tried took a few seconds, but didn't have a long rendering pause after getting the data. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: puzzling email
... NetSurf, which has its own routines for BMP decoding[1]. Whatever ChangeFSI does is not going to affect NetSurf. However, the test that I did showed that with ImageFS2 running on the machine, its settings did affect what NetSurf did. I don't know enough about the mechanics to know whether would or would not be expected. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: puzzling email
My BMP file starts with the characters 'BM' as viewed in a text editor. It does indeed start with 'BM' but I'm mostly sure that it wasn't generated with DPIngScan. Bound to be from the dark side, really, but it does beg the question how many other BadFile types might there be lurking out there? It's not a 'bad file type' any more that DOC is a bad file type. BMP is a Windows Bit MaP file. It's not very efficient, but nor is a SpriteFile. If you can't read that file, then either the file is corrupt (easy enough with e-mail) or you haven't got ImageFS (or whatever you use) set up to convert BMP files. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
I guess no one else uses NS with LTSB, as this AM (Monday) still unusable I only just picked up this thread, so not sure what has been said so far. I have always used NetSurf with LTSB, and found it OK. I haven't logged on for a while though, since my wife normally checks the account from her Macbook. I just logged on to see whether there was a problem, and I obviously haven't done so since they 'improved' it a few months ago, since it is now pretty unhelpful. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
Re: NetSurf 2.8 released - Thank you!
I've installed this. Well, updated the old one by dragging the new over the old. That's normally enough, but it's worth checking whether anything in System or Boot has been updated as well. In this case it had (judging by the time stamp) so I merged them as well. Does it have ... converting Unicode to ... Unicode was the thing that had a recent time stamp. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk
