Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Drake
In article <885f2c2952.GrahameParish@grahame.parish>,
   Grahame Parish  wrote:

> Less non-repeatable crashes too.

If you're getting *any* please report them.  There's nothing we can do
about issues that go unreported.

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-28 Thread cj
In article <5228b3886ct...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> Please try the latest build.  The problem was tracked down to an
> issue in UnixLib which has now been fixed.

I have tried a few tests and it hasn't failed yet, so it looks as if
that has fixed it.

Many thanks.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-28 Thread george
In message <885f2c2952.GrahameParish@grahame.parish>
  Grahame Parish  wrote:

> In message <5228c78585ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>
>   cj  wrote:
> 
>> In article <5228b3886ct...@netsurf-browser.org>,
>>Michael Drake  wrote:
>>> Please try the latest build.  The problem was tracked down to an
>>> issue in UnixLib which has now been fixed.
> 
>> I have tried a few tests and it hasn't failed yet, so it looks as if
>> that has fixed it.
> 
>> Many thanks.
> 
> Same here so far...
> 
> Less non-repeatable crashes too.
> 
Ditto here (using r13086).

George

-- 



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-28 Thread Grahame Parish
In message <5228c78585ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>
  cj  wrote:

> In article <5228b3886ct...@netsurf-browser.org>,
>Michael Drake  wrote:
>> Please try the latest build.  The problem was tracked down to an
>> issue in UnixLib which has now been fixed.

> I have tried a few tests and it hasn't failed yet, so it looks as if
> that has fixed it.

> Many thanks.

Same here so far...

Less non-repeatable crashes too.

-- 
Grahame Parish



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Drake
In article <522534c93bch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>,
   cj  wrote:
> In article <18c32a2552.GrahameParish@grahame.parish>,
>Grahame Parish  wrote:

> > Just tried loading the news.bbc.co.uk page and running a mail fetch 
> > (Netfetch/Hermes) and got a NetSurf error followed by quit.

> Ahhh - it's not just my system then.

Please try the latest build.  The problem was tracked down to an issue in
UnixLib which has now been fixed.

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread Chris Young
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:04:30 +0100, Harriet Bazley wrote:

> On 20 Oct 2011 as I do recall,
>   cj  wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf
> > is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error?

> What I've observed has been fatal errors reported from Netsurf while
> Firefox is rendering a page, resulting in both apps quitting the iconbar
> (and sometimes FileCore in Use errors).

There is also a crash that occurs when the homepage fails to fetch
(not involving any other non-NetSurf software!).  Due to the
randomness I've not yet been able to get a log nor systematically
reproduce it, but it might be related.

Chris



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread cj
In article <18c32a2552.GrahameParish@grahame.parish>,
   Grahame Parish  wrote:

> Just tried loading the news.bbc.co.uk page and running a mail fetch 
> (Netfetch/Hermes) and got a Netsurf error followed by quit.

Ahhh - it's not just my system then.

> In the instances above I rarely get an error box, just a sudden
> quit from the iconbar.

It's still worth checking in Scrap where NetSurf puts its log file,
(there is an obey file in the !NS app called OpenScrap which is a
quick way to get there). Check the timestamp on the log file to see
whether it has just been written. I have found that, even when NS
goes into a black hole, and the log file is not opened in an editor,
it still often has been written.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread Grahame Parish
In message <52251d32acch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>
  cj  wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf
> is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error?

> Before submitting a report, it would be interesting to know whether
> anyone else has experienced this.

> It has done it several times here over the past few weeks(?), but has
> taken me a while to realise the connection. I have now tried fetching
> a web page and then forcing a mail fetch - it gives the error
> sometimes - it may depend on exactly where NS has reached in the
> rendering when the mail fetch starts and whether the page to be
> rendered is already in the cache or not.

> Forcing a news/rss fetch while NS was rendering a page caused NetSurf
> to just vanish from the iconbar, with no error message. The pages
> used for the test were ROOL pages.

> I did these tests with r13071, but the errors have also occurred with
> earlier releases. Machine is an Iyonix with RISC OS 5.17. Mail/news
> software is Netfetch with Hermes and NewsHound.

I've been experiencing random quits from Netsurf in recent revisions 
since 2.8 was released.  Not been able to pin them down to anything, 
and often after restarting NS it will have no problem with the page.  
I've seen it on a variety of sites and locally rendered pages (email 
attachments).  One instance was a Dabs.com offer email where NS quit 
without warning long after the page had rendered.  As I hadn't seen 
any other mentions I haven't reported it up to now.  Will grab a log 
next time it happens.

Just tried loading the news.bbc.co.uk page and running a mail fetch 
(Netfetch/Hermes) and got a Netsurf error followed by quit.  I've got 
a 50K zip file of the log if wanted.  In the instances above I rarely 
get an error box, just a sudden quit from the iconbar.

-- 
Grahame Parish



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread cj
In article <52251f6554j...@jaharrison.me.uk>,
   John Harrison  wrote:
> Do you specifically mean rendering, as opposed to downloading?  The
> pages I tried took a few seconds, but didn't have a long rendering
> pause after getting the data.

Difficult to say - one starts off the NetSurf fetch, then forces a
mail/news fetch as soon as possible, the mail fetch status opens, and
then the error occurs. Its not obvious at what point NetSurf has got
to. The test I did just now with a mail fetch caused NetSurf to
vanish, rather than raise an error box. Even the NS log files show
different errors, e.g. segmentation fault in one, illegal instruction
in another.

I guess I should just send in the log files and let the experts
decide.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread John Harrison

> Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf
> is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error?

I just did a manually initiated mail fetch while NetSurf was loading a
page, with no adverse effect. (r13065)

Do you specifically mean rendering, as opposed to downloading?  The pages I
tried took a few seconds, but didn't have a long rendering pause after
getting the data.

Regards

-- 
John Harrison
Website http://jaharrison.me.uk



Re: Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 20 Oct 2011 as I do recall,
  cj  wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf
> is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error?
>
> Before submitting a report, it would be interesting to know whether
> anyone else has experienced this.
>
[snip]

Quick test here using a known slow-to-render site doesn't show up any
error - but then that could be a 'not always' case.

What I've observed has been fatal errors reported from Netsurf while
Firefox is rendering a page, resulting in both apps quitting the iconbar
(and sometimes FileCore in Use errors).   I've always assumed this was
actually an error from Firefox being misallocated by the Wimp due to the
extreme level of emulation which is going on, since it only seems to
happen to Netsurf when Firefox crashes - but it could be related to your
observations.

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

The saddest words in the English language are 'Too' and 'late'



Fatal error when page render clashes with a mail/news fetch

2011-10-20 Thread cj
Has anyone else noticed that if a mail fetch initiates while NetSurf
is rendering a page, then NS exits with a fatal error?

Before submitting a report, it would be interesting to know whether
anyone else has experienced this.

It has done it several times here over the past few weeks(?), but has
taken me a while to realise the connection. I have now tried fetching
a web page and then forcing a mail fetch - it gives the error
sometimes - it may depend on exactly where NS has reached in the
rendering when the mail fetch starts and whether the page to be
rendered is already in the cache or not.

Forcing a news/rss fetch while NS was rendering a page caused NetSurf
to just vanish from the iconbar, with no error message. The pages
used for the test were ROOL pages.

I did these tests with r13071, but the errors have also occurred with
earlier releases. Machine is an Iyonix with RISC OS 5.17. Mail/news
software is Netfetch with Hermes and NewsHound.

-- 
Chris Johnson