Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 as I do recall, Tony Moore wrote: On 22 Nov 2012, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my NetSurf hotlist The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first entry to contain an unusual character. Looking at the Hotlist files posted by Richard Torrens, the entry which caused the truncation was (on one line): lia href=http://www.vivastreet.co.uk/east-anglia; #8226;#8226;#9655; East Anglia Free ads, East Anglia classifieds, East Anglia FREE CLASSIFIED ADS, 450,000+ free classifieds in the UK/a/li Ah, and the one from the list I reported is a href=http://elegantmusings.com/;Casey#8217;s Elegant Musings/a So the problem is caused by adding webpages with UTF characters in the title to your hotlist (and not editing the default title - which I normally do, but in this case didn't) -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Bryan Hogan nets...@helpful.demon.co.uk wrote: In message 60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish entries. And have had that recently happen here, too. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article 20121122083649.GA3366@somnambulist.local, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: If any of you had backups of your hotlist from before NetSurf seems to have lost entries, you could use copies of those backups to do the test. If the problem manifests repeatably, then copies of the offending hotlists would go a long way to helping us diagnose and fix the fault. It's a saving issue. Just closed Netsurf and watched the file shrink from 16K to 552 bytes. Both attached -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! Title: NetSurf hotlist Buy/Sell FreeAds Burwell Preloved | used latex for sale UK and Ireland Free Classified Ads . Classifieds . Property, Jobs, Motors, Personals... East Anglia Free ads, East Anglia classifieds, East Anglia FREE CLASSIFIED ADS, 450,000+ free classifieds in the UK Gumtree - Cambridge craigslist: cambridge, UK classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events Welcome to the Camlets Home Page eFreeko, recycling the planet - Home Page hififorsale.com's AudiophileCandy Canon: Ace Cameras For Best Deals On Used Cameras, Lenses, Accessories, Scopes, Binoculars, Eyepieces and Astronomical Equipment. Digital Camera Magazine Classifieds Gumtree.com - Gloucester Classifieds Computing gEDA Project Homepage pdf2gerb: Convert PDF to Gerber and NC Drill formats « scattershot genius; Vutrax Electronics CAD - Off-site Links Perlmasters Perl Script and CGI Script Resource Site Perl CPAN RISC OS 32 Bit Conversions David Pilling :: Home : RISC OS Dave Higton's home page SiteMatch RISC OS Web Site Synchroniser Google Directory - Computers Systems RISC OS Software Monitor Definition Files IYONIX pc RISCOS Ltd RISC OS Knowledgebase RISC OS Select - Private - News RISCOS.org : Support - !Boot Structure Recommended software - RISCOS BBC - h2g2 - RISC OS Computers John's HTML Tutors ZFC Guides Avisoft Home Page Tests etc IANA Root Zone Database Test Your Firewall The W3C Markup Validation Service Unix CGI - perldoc.perl.org demime - A tool to scrub mime from mailing lists Pure-FTPd - About Stripmime Electronics AVR EAsm homepage Semiconductors == Diodes == Soldering LF-1000 TIPS BOSS Enclosures Dancap Electronics Home Page - Official Hakko Distributor for the UK and Northern Ireland Kaisertech, hot air rework, fume extraction, dummy components. Rampantapathy : - Cart contents Welcome to STMicroelectronics SuperMagnete.de - The Strongest Magnets in the World Food Food From Britain http://www.justsolutions.eu/CamFruit/displayGrowers.asp Spice Pages: Coconut (Cocos nucifera) Spice Pages: Coconut (Cocos nucifera) Welcome to Rick Stein's Seafood Restaurant, Accommodation Cookery School - Rick Stein Genealogy Stoke Ferry Dr Henry Linhook Helsham of Stoke Ferry, Norfolk (1767-1806) Dr Robert Harvey (1700-1756) of Stoke Ferry, Norfolk, England. Stoke Ferry - White's 1854 GENUKI: Norfolk: Genealogy: Towns and Parishes: Stoke Ferry GENUKI: Norfolk: Genealogy: Towns and Parishes: Stoke Ferry: Coates: Names Holidays Camp Sites and Caravan Parks in England An extensive caravan parks and sites directory, a portal for caravan sales and rental, and a comprehensive on-line guide to caravan, mobile home, motorhome, tent, trailer tent and cabin holidays :: Caravan Sitefinder UK Defra, UK - Rural Affairs Paws For a Walk - The Dog Friendly Website Holiday Accommodation Dog Pet Friendly Cottages Caravans BB Hotels Pet friendly dogs welcome self-catering country cottages and holiday cottages Cotswolds Holiday Accommodation Dog Pet Friendly Cottages Caravans BB Hotels Forest of Dean Evans Holidays Royal Forest of Dean, Herefordshire and Monmouthshire Dog Friendly Accommodation Holiday accommodation in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire Cottages Wye Valley Forest of Dean accommodation self catering Lincolnshire Lincolnshire Walks - Lincolnshire County Council Norfolk The Brecks, Norfolk Places to Stay, Visit, Eat and Drink in the Brecks Nottingham Homepage Music BBC - Radio 3 Index of /2ndhand/ Natural history Animals Cats Cat Rescue and Rehoming - Siamese Cat Club Welfare Trust SpringerLink - Journal Article FAB Home Page Mr. Lee CatCam Fish Aquariumlife.net - Aquarium articles, forums, DIY projects, tools Species - ARKive Plants Flower seeds Vegetable seed Grass seed, Garden Sundries Latin name index P - Plants For A Future database report Plants For A Future - 7000 useful plants PFAF Database Search Thomas Etty Esq. - Heritage Vegetable Seeds Novelty Tropical Seeds Invasive non-native plants http://www.fruitipedia.com/ NetSurf NetSurf homepage NetSurf test builds Photography Advanced Camera Services Canon EOS Beginners' FAQ III - Lenses Canon EOS Beginners' FAQ III - Lenses photo.net - photo.net Searches Search for People, Businesses and Places - 192.com Route Planner (GB) : Routes, maps and directions - The AA AltaVista - Babel Fish
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
Daniel Silverstone, on 22 Nov, wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:16:26AM +, Peter Young wrote: Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish entries. And have had that recently happen here, too. It would be massively helpful if people seeing this behaviour could attempt to determine if this is a loading or saving issue -- This can be done by editing the file in Zap or StrongEd and then starting NetSurf before looking in the NetSurf hotlist window to see if the added items are visible, and then quitting NetSurf and seeing if they get saved back out to the hostlist file. We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, so any hints are gratefully received. FWIW I note the Hotlist generated by #665 is missing the /head tag. OTOH I have not seen the Hotlist get truncated yet. -- David Pitt
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: [snip] We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, What was the first #number of this change? Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: [snip] We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, What was the first #number of this change? I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so you should be able to trace it. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article s2f288a3d7li...@torrens.org.uk, Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote: In article 20121122083649.GA3366@somnambulist.local, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: If any of you had backups of your hotlist from before NetSurf seems to have lost entries, you could use copies of those backups to do the test. If the problem manifests repeatably, then copies of the offending hotlists would go a long way to helping us diagnose and fix the fault. It's a saving issue. Just closed Netsurf and watched the file shrink from 16K to 552 bytes. Both attached Should have said this is with 3.0 (Dev CI #656) -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43:24AM +, Tony Moore wrote: On 22 Nov 2012, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: We did recently rewrite the hotlist code, What was the first #number of this change? I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend That, I believe, was 3-4 Nov 2012. Using RO6.20: When quitting NetSurf #600 (5 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my Hotlist as a 90K file. When quitting NetSurf #659 (18 Nov 2012), it consistently re-writes my Hotlist as an 89K file. The difference in file-lengths seems to be caused by #600 writing amp; whereas #659 writes , however I can't persuade either NetSurf version to truncate the Hotlist. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article mpro.mdvx2l006wxwx02rx.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: FWIW I note the Hotlist generated by #665 is missing the /head tag. OTOH I have not seen the Hotlist get truncated yet. Having now checked on both Iyonix and ARMini, both hotlists are truncated. Since I 'auto-upgrade' NetSurf very regularly (at least daily), and only keep the last 3 versions I have no idea when it started. I never noticed before, since my most frequented sites are at the top of the list, so probably haven't needed to scroll down the list for maybe weeks. -- Chris Johnson
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] Whereas with #665 and RISC OS 5.19 on an ARMini, while I did have the file truncated a while ago, it doesn't seem to be happening now. Not, at least, till the fairy dust that a friend is sure inhabits all computers sees this message :-) That happened sooner than I expected! I imported a 32K hotlist from the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do with the size of the hotlist perhaps? Looking back, I have had a couple of unexplained bleeps when shutting down the machine, and I now know why! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is shortened from 24K to 10K. -- Chris Johnson
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is shortened from 24K to 10K. I've now checked #600 and #659 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on RPCEmu v0.8.9. The results were identical to those for RO6.20, reported earlier, ie no truncation with a 90K file. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] I imported a 32K hotlist from the backup of the late Iyo, and ran NetSurf, and then quitted it. There was a bleep, and 32K suddenly became 8K. Is it something to do with the size of the hotlist perhaps? No problem here, with a 90K Hotlist file. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 22 Nov 2012, cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote: With #665 on the Iyonix (5.19, 7 Nov 2012) the truncation is still occurring when NetSurf is quit. The file I am using to test is shortened from 24K to 10K. I've now checked #600 and #659 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on RPCEmu v0.8.9. The results were identical to those for RO6.20, reported earlier, ie no truncation with a 90K file. Now I'm up to date: using #665 with RO5.19 (29-Oct-12), running on RPCEmu v0.8.9, and with RO6.20 running on a SARPC, here there is still no truncation of a 90K Hotlist file, when NetSurf is quit. Tony
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article 20121122110116.GF3366@somnambulist.local, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: What was the first #number of this change? I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so you should be able to trace it. Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive work? John
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:59:21PM +0100, John Williams wrote: In article 20121122110116.GF3366@somnambulist.local, Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: What was the first #number of this change? I do not recall. It was done not long after the hack weekend though, so you should be able to trace it. Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive work? http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/BUILD_JS=jsoff,CC=gcc,TARGET=riscos,label=arm-unknown-riscos/ The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included in that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. B.
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article 20121122170227.gu3...@pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive work? Sorry - Pluto breaks link! See Message-ID: 20121122170227.gu3...@pepperfish.net The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included in that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. Thanks! John
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: [snip] It gets even odder. I tried today to do something I've done many times before, so that I could search the global history. What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the history History Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. This opens the hotlist in HTML, and you can then use the search option. Today, when I got to the stage of dragging the icon to the icon bar I get the weird error message Unable to save the hotlist, (yes, hotlist!) with a beep, but NetSurf doesn't crash. I have the logfile, and will report this on the bug-tracker, in the hope that this possibly might shed some light on what's going on. I tried to add a comment to the bug report, and got a page saying XSRF Attempt Detected!. What am I doing wrong? I tried to correct the wording of the error message, which is The hotlist was unable to be saved properly. From what I can see, the already truncated hotlist seem to be intact, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:59:21PM +0100, John Williams wrote: [snip] Would it be possible to have once again something like the old builds page detailing changes between test versions, or is that too much unproductive work? http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/jenkins/job/netsurf/BUILD_JS=jsoff,CC=gcc,TARGET=riscos,label=arm-unknown-riscos/ The list of builds down the left hand side has links to a details page for each, which includes the change messages for the commits included in that build, with links to diffs on the cgit revision viewer. At present, the earliest build available on that page is #641. How is it possible to access earlier builds? I wish to identify the build in which https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3579166group_id=51719atid=464312 first occurred. This lies between #417 and #461. Tony
XSRF Attempt Detected (was: Hotlist truncation/corruption)
The following bytes were arranged on 22 Nov 2012 by Peter Young : I tried to add a comment to the bug report, and got a page saying XSRF Attempt Detected!. I suspect that's related to this one: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3586760group_id=51719atid=464312 NetSurf's SSL seems to have a few bugs in it at the moment. -- __^__ / _ _ \ You always find something in the last place you look. ( ( |_| ) ) \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ==
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In article 60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my NetSurf hotlist The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first entry to contain an unusual character. The beep is because NetSurf opens a warning dialogue box to report the problem, although since it is quitting, you won't get a chance to see it before NetSurf quits. In article 8f7cb4f252.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the history History Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. That's the same problem. The warning mentions the hotlist because global history and hotlist share the same code for saving. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
On 22 Nov 2012 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my NetSurf hotlist The hotlist gets truncated when it fails to save one of the entries. Since hotlist load/save was ported from libxml to libdom it has failed to handle HTML entities. So the hotlist will get truncated before the first entry to contain an unusual character. The beep is because NetSurf opens a warning dialogue box to report the problem, although since it is quitting, you won't get a chance to see it before NetSurf quits. In article 8f7cb4f252.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: What I do is to open the global history from the icon bar icon, do menu over the history History Export, and drag the file to the icon bar icon. That's the same problem. The warning mentions the hotlist because global history and hotlist share the same code for saving. Thanks for the explanation. I imagine it's being worked on, so I will be patient. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Hotlist truncation/corruption
Recently I've been suffering increasingly frequent corruption of my Netsurf hotlist - the telltale symptom is that program beeps on shutdown, and when it is re-started the hotlist file is truncated and the remaining portion subtly altered (see artifact 3587232 on bug list) Mertin has also been complaining of this but that is unsurprising as he is using the same copy of the application on the same machine (just with different files in Choices); however this does suggest that it isn't just some malformation of my particular hotlist file that is causing the problem. Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage.
Re: Hotlist truncation/corruption
In message 60245ff252.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Yes, most of my Hotlist has vanished too :-( Looking at the Hotlist file it is not corrupted, the html is perfectly formed, it's just missing all but the first 35ish entries. Bryan. -- RISC OS User Group Of London - http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/ RISC OS London Show - http://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/
