Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'. I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, even for the main bbc web site. Richard Porter I have very easily altered Netsurf homepage link to BBC news to above link pro tem for when / if BBC respond to any objections sent (there is a form at the bottom of the mobile page). I presume this could be carried out by the developers if no better workround is found - but I am confident one will be (rather like the Google problem). John
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In message 7cd6ddf452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Well, blow me down with a feather! I got in using the above URL and then going to News. I haven't deleted any cookies, and I'm now getting the proper site without using the desktop link. I'll have to check it again tomorrow. !Ticker solves the problem for me. However, if the BBC is playing fast and loose, it needs to be told! -- BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.] Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com Thou art not for Lancaster if thou likest thine pudding straight! Hugh de Nangreave.
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On Wed, 28 November, 2012 4:11 pm, ChrisF wrote: In message 7cd6ddf452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: Well, blow me down with a feather! I got in using the above URL and then going to News. I haven't deleted any cookies, and I'm now getting the proper site without using the desktop link. I'll have to check it again tomorrow. !Ticker solves the problem for me. However, if the BBC is playing fast and loose, it needs to be told! I have used mobile web service contact form (at bottom of the mobile page) to inform BBC - it will not have any effect unless lots of other do it. The URL which Peter referred to works but not after Netsurf and the Iyo have been closed down - back to mobile page today. I do not know of !Ticker - will google it - but what does it do and is it IYO friendly? John
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In article 8b63d0f552.c.n@virgin.net, ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: In message 50839.81.147.79.162.1354120626.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.c o.uk Learning Partners lp.bo...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I do not know of !Ticker - will google it - but what does it do and is it IYO friendly? I run it (v 25.11.11)on the Iyo 5.16 and the Armini. It's a news ticker which runs across the screen. You can place it at the top or bottom. You can choose your newsfeed from within its choices. Sorry, I don't know the source. It can be found at... http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/software/3party.html D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article 8b63d0f552.c.n@virgin.net, ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: In message 50839.81.147.79.162.1354120626.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.c o.uk Learning Partners lp.bo...@argonet.co.uk wrote: I do not know of !Ticker - will google it - but what does it do and is it IYO friendly? I run it (v 25.11.11)on the Iyo 5.16 and the Armini. It's a news ticker which runs across the screen. You can place it at the top or bottom. You can choose your newsfeed from within its choices. Sorry, I don't know the source. Try http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.apps.html#ticker or you might like Sargasso at... http://zamez.org/sargasso Cheers -- Chris
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article 6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile version of their site. It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's useragent string contains armv5l, which NetSurf's does when running on the Iyonix hardware. NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile version of their site. Yes, that's what I get, I think. It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's useragent string contains armv5l, which NetSurf's does when running on the Iyonix hardware. Is there anything that can be done about that? I imagine not. NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. So does Windows Firefox, as I mentioned. Thanks for the feedback, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In message 52f4c7c585t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile version of their site. Same here. It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's useragent string contains armv5l, which NetSurf's does when running on the Iyonix hardware. Might be any arm in the useragent string. I am using a Virtual Acorn and RISC OS Select 6.20 and the useragent string contains armv4l - I see exactly the same as Peter. NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. -- Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article 6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I reverted to #671, and it looks the same there. It renders perfectly in Windows Firefox. The same sort of rubbish is visible on our local BBC Gloucestershire site, so presumably the BBC web-people think they've been clever again. I rather incline to thinking that it's hardly worth raising a bug report on this, but will do so if people think it's worth it. In the meanwhile, I've changed my homepage. Looks OK here, Peter - #671
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Brian Jordan wrote: In message 52f4c7c585t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article 6162c5f452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I have just downloaded #672 and ran it. I was horrified at the hash it made of my homepage, which is http://m.bbc.co.uk/news I'm not sure if I'm getting the same thing you are. I just get the mobile version of their site. Same here. It seems they've started sending the mobile version if the browser's useragent string contains armv5l, which NetSurf's does when running on the Iyonix hardware. Might be any arm in the useragent string. I am using a Virtual Acorn and RISC OS Select 6.20 and the useragent string contains armv4l - I see exactly the same as Peter. NetSurf on x86 linux gets the desktop site. I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: In article 7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'. It seems to have gone right again. Maybe they got the message! -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: In article 7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'. I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, even for the main bbc web site. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden chr...@care4free.net wrote: In article 7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'. So it does! Many thanks for pointing this out. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
On 26 Nov 2012 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 26 Nov 2012 Chris Gransden wrote: In article 7360d8f452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, I suggest we all send feedback to the BBC News site and if that doesn't work raise a complaint. If you use http://m.bbc.co.uk/home/desktop you'll get the correct page clicking on 'News'. I spoke too soon. I think cookies are coming into play here. It was working OK, I deleted all the bbc cookies and it went wrong again, even for the main bbc web site. Well, blow me down with a feather! I got in using the above URL and then going to News. I haven't deleted any cookies, and I'm now getting the proper site without using the desktop link. I'll have to check it again tomorrow. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Ta \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
