Re: [newbie-it] Emulatori Windows

2003-03-20 Thread Andrea Celli
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:20:45 +0100 (CET)
Alberto Panigada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Cercando tra gli emulatori ho trovato Wine ma, dopo
 avere scaricato circa 6MB, non riesco a farlo
 funzionare. Ho seguito la procedura d'installazione ma
 continua a rispondermi picche.
Prova a cercare tk-wine, tkwinesetup o un nome simile per configurarlo
poi, vedi se rieci ad avviare un programma semplice, es. mines
Infine, accendi un cero e spera che il tuo programma funzioni:
wine è ancora in fase di sviluppo e non riesce a far girare tutti
i programmi, forse non ci riuscirà mai.
La sua utilizzazione più promettente è quella di riuscire a compilare
per Linux i programmi scritti per Windows, modificando solo
marginalmente il codice. Corel, prima di essere acquistata da M$oft,
aveva portato con questo metodo CorelDraw, PhotoPaint, WordPerfect, ...

 Mi consigliate qualcosa di più facile utilizzo (e
 installazione) ?
 

Se funziona, non c'è niente di più facile che scrivere wine programma.exe
Ma, siccome per la legge di Murphy il tuo programma non è tra quelli che girano,
una soluzione più sicura è usare vmware o win4lin, che però sono a pagamento.

 
 p.s.: avrei anche bisogno di un firewall
 


di default su Mandreake hai già shorewall


ciao, andrea



Re: [newbie-it] consigli per un'installazione

2003-03-20 Thread Andrea Celli
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:03:18 +0100
Giorgio Griffon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 =
  VERY IMPORTANT
   Add to your default path the directory : /home/bepi/ofeli/bin
   or copy the contents of this directory to a directory in your
   default path
 
   Otherwise the installation of contributions and utilities will
   not succeed.
 =
 
 Ehm ... per caso qualcuno saprebbe spiegarmi che cosa vuol dire?


La variabile d'ambiente PATH contiene tutte le directory in cui vengono
cercati i programmi da eseguire (a meno che tu non ne dia il percorso completo)

Per esempio, tu puoi lanciare /usr/bin/ls o semplicemente ls.
Nel primo caso hai dato il percorso completo per individuare il file che vuoi
eseguire, nel secondo lasci il compito alla shell di cercare nelle directory
del PATH un file eseguibile chiamato ls. È importante l'ordine in cui
sono messe le directory. La directory in cui sei (.) è messa come ultima per gli
utenti normali e tolta dal PATH di root. Quindi, se ti fai  un tuo comando ls,
e lanci ls, verrà eseguito /usr/bin/ls. Per eseguire il file che sta nella
directory in cui sei, devi dare ./ls. Esattamente come hai dato ./config .

A questo punto,puoi variare il PATH di un utente con una coppia di righe in
/home/utente/.bash_profile del tipo

PATH=$PATH:/nuova/dir/prima:/nuova/dir/seconda
export PATH


dove $PATH significa che viene preso il contenuto standard del PATH;
le nuove directory da aggiungere vanno separate da :

Una modifica analoga, ma valida per tutti gli utenti, può essere fatta in /etc/profile


 Nella cartella /home/bepi/ofeli/bin c'è un solo file ofeli-config; ma che 
 devo farne?

Direi proprio: lanciarlo per configurare il programma.
È estremamente probabile che ti prepari gli eseguibili e te li copi in 
/home/bepi/ofeli/bin

Per questioni di pulizia, in genere le directory che contengono programmi aggiuntivi
(es. ofeli) vengono messe in /usr/local o in /opt, dove i programmi sono 
raggiungibili da
tutti gli utenti.

ciao, Andrea




Re: [newbie-it] kde e gnome

2003-03-20 Thread Germano
Il 18:16, mercoledì 19 marzo 2003, beo ha scritto:
 salve gente,

 ma come si fa a dire a kde/gnome di cercarsi i nuovi programmi installati?

 grazie in anticipo
 gpaolo

Intendi dire come si fa a farli apparire nel menu?
Se è cosi dipende dal programma installato e dal gestore dei menu.
Di solito è mandrake che gestisce i menu di tutti i WM ma puoi fare in modo 
che kde o gnome se li gestiscano da soli (sconsigliabile, perchè non vedono 
tutti i programmi).
Di solito alla fine di ogni processo di installazione via rpm viene lanciato 
menu-updates che è uno standard di Debian.
Quando un programma viene con un pacchetto rpm si porta dietro dei file 
descrittivi che vanno in un path specifico di un certo Desktop Manager (i 
programmi dell'area Kde ovviamente vanno in quello di kde e quindi gnome non 
li vede).
Chi si adegua allo standard Debian (molti) oltre al (o in sostituzioni del) 
precedente file ne hanno un altro che va in /usr/lib/menu dove vengono messe 
delle informazioni che il programma menu-updates è in grado di gestire.
Se gli rpm sono fatti così ed il gestore del menu è affidato alla distro 
invece che al DM dopo pochi secondi dall'installazione te lo trovi sul menu.
Altrimenti ti vai a vedere che files descrittivi ci sono nel pacchetto e li 
copi in /usr/share/applnk-mdk/ nel posto giusto.

Se ho fatto tutto questo discorso inutilmente dimmelo e magari specifica più 
esattamente il tipo di problema.

Ciao, Germano



Re: [newbie-it] Emulatori Windows

2003-03-20 Thread Fabio Manunza
Alle 07:20, giovedì 20 marzo 2003, Alberto Panigada ha scritto:

 p.s.: avrei anche bisogno di un firewall
Il tuo firewall viene gestito attraverso iptables (dai un'occhiata al 
manuale).
Per una configurazione user-friendly, di default mdk offre shorewall, che di 
suo è difettoso; la soluzione è già stata descritta nella maillist, per cui 
ti rimando all'archivio della stessa. Per un'infarinatura sulla 
configurazione dello stesso (e quindi per l'individuazione dell'errore), ti 
consiglio di leggere la documentazione in HTML, che è illuminante al 
riguardo.
Vale.

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[newbie-it] installare un mandrake come server

2003-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Il server non va,
disperato ho pensato di reinstallare tutto il SO che ho sul server all'università , ma 
finora quando ho  installato mandrake è stato per postazioni finali e non server, 
quindi dovrei ottemperare a dei settaggi che fin'ora ho sempre bypassato, sapete se 
c'è da qualche parte un file con i settaggi o una serie di consigli per installare 
L/Mandrake come server? 
Mi conviene upgradare alla relase 9?
grazie per la pazienza
Alfredo








Re: [newbie-it] installare un mandrake come server

2003-03-20 Thread francesco.melo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Il server non va,
disperato ho pensato di reinstallare tutto il SO che ho sul server all'università , ma finora quando ho  installato mandrake è stato per postazioni finali e non server, quindi dovrei ottemperare a dei settaggi che fin'ora ho sempre bypassato, sapete se c'è da qualche parte un file con i settaggi o una serie di consigli per installare L/Mandrake come server? 
Mi conviene upgradare alla relase 9?
grazie per la pazienza
Alfredo







 

scusa ma come server di che cosa?
di posta ftp
samba
web
pop
irc
newsgroup
sql

dovresti essere più chiaro 

cia francesco




Re: [newbie-it] installare un mandrake come server

2003-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cerco di spiegarmi meglio:
la macchina all'università deve funzionarmi da server ftp, web, mail, sql, almeno 
questi servizi mi servono,
grazie
alf

Il server non va,
disperato ho pensato di reinstallare tutto il SO che ho sul server all'università , 
ma finora quando ho  installato mandrake è stato per postazioni finali e non server, 
quindi dovrei ottemperare a dei settaggi che fin'ora ho sempre bypassato, sapete se 
c'è da qualche parte un file con i settaggi o una serie di consigli per installare 
L/Mandrake come server? 
Mi conviene upgradare alla relase 9?
grazie per la pazienza
Alfredo







  

scusa ma come server di che cosa?
di posta ftp
samba
web
pop
irc
newsgroup
sql


dovresti essere più chiaro 


cia francesco







[newbie-it] .. invio mail....

2003-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
salve a tutti,
il mio problema per l'invio della posta continua...
pochi giorni fa ho chiesto a voi di aiutarmi in quanto riuscivo a inviare la
posta con Kmail solo tramite SMTP di virgilio... ora ho impostato tutti gli SMTP
con virgilio come mi è stato consigliato e dico che funziona ma il problema
rimane in quanto :
io sono registrato a questa mailist con IOL quindi quando spedisco mail a quasta
mailist non vacome posso fare???




[newbie-it] prova

2003-03-20 Thread Antonio Guerra

-- 
Cordiali Saluti
Guerra Antonio



Re: [newbie-it] .. invio mail....

2003-03-20 Thread Germano
Il 17:36, giovedì 20 marzo 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 salve a tutti,
 il mio problema per l'invio della posta continua...
 pochi giorni fa ho chiesto a voi di aiutarmi in quanto riuscivo a inviare
 la
 posta con Kmail solo tramite SMTP di virgilio... ora ho impostato tutti
 gli SMTP con virgilio come mi è stato consigliato e dico che funziona ma il
 problema rimane in quanto :
 io sono registrato a questa mailist con IOL quindi quando spedisco mail a
 quasta
 mailist non vacome posso fare???

Non c'entra niente l'SMTP basta che tu mandi la posta come
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
altrimenti si dovrebbe configurare un smtp per ogni account di posta.
La questione è: chi ti fornisce il collegamento alla rete?
L'SMTP deve essere quello di chi ti fornisce il servizio perchè molte volte 
(ad esempio all'università) il server non ti lascia uscire usando un SMTP che 
non sia il suo.
Se invece il server SMTP fosse corretto allora hai sbagliato qualche 
impostazione (potresti aver messo un metodo di autenticazione sbagliato o 
qualche opzione non supportata).

Cioa, Germano



[newbie] Adding flowchart in Kword ?

2003-03-20 Thread Rifza Adriansyah
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[newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Frankie
Hi guys,

I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...

They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)

Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
bets are off..


Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed to
read??

I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as well
be sooner rather then later


Any info would be much appreciated.


rgds

Franki


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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 11:05 am, Tsur, Oren wrote:
 Hi All

 Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 -

 1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as
 primary or secondary reading device. When I go into
 set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda)
 but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again.

Your dvd drive is not scsi-emulated, if I remember correctly.  If you make it 
scsi-em, XCDRoast will see it, but you will have other problems.  My advice 
is to install K3b, which can read from the dvd drive without changing 
anything.  This is what I do.  I still like XCDRoast for many things, but if 
you need to read from the dvd, then K3b is the answer.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Is it true 9.1 (Bamboo) is final?

2003-03-20 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 20 March 2003 06:36 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 22:34, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
  Is it true 9.1 (Bamboo) is final?

 Shit - if it is, then I got alot of work to do (AGAIN) - if it ain't,
 then I'm alright...if it IS, though, alot of people are going to be
 really really happy and I can reflect back on some messages that were
 flying around about six months ago where I stated that .0 versions of
 ANY distro were buggy/incomplete/unpolished - and say...
 Told ya so!

Well, after Civileme jumped in on this a few weeks ago, it became clear that 
in the Mandrake process, every release is .0 release, so you really can't say 
I told you so.  

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Sascha Noyes
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On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
 article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...

 They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
 lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)

 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
 last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
 bets are off..


 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed
 to read??


That is misinformation. I invite you to look at the long threads on the cooker 
mailing list about feature requests for 9.2 which Mandrake developers 
themselves have started and are engaged in.

Best,
Sascha Noyes
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread robin
Frankie wrote:
Hi guys,

I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...
They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)
Behind Lindows? Whoo. Did they put it behind Windows XP as well?

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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
Anne,

What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.

Miark


On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:20:43 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 11:05 am, Tsur, Oren wrote:
  Hi All
 
  Before I start, I am using KDE under MDK 9.0 -
 
  1) How do I get X-CD-Roast to see my DVD-ROM drive? I want to use it as
  primary or secondary reading device. When I go into
  set up it shows my cd-rw as the recording device (which is fineda)
  but in the reading device I can only see the recorder drive again.
 
 Your dvd drive is not scsi-emulated, if I remember correctly.  If you make it 
 scsi-em, XCDRoast will see it, but you will have other problems.  My advice 
 is to install K3b, which can read from the dvd drive without changing 
 anything.  This is what I do.  I still like XCDRoast for many things, but if 
 you need to read from the dvd, then K3b is the answer.
 
 Anne
 -- 
 Registered Linux User No.293302
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
No, Frankie, that's a load of crap.

Miark



On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:10:08 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
 last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
 bets are off..
 
 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed to
 read??

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:10 pm, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and
 they had a huge linux article comparing all the major
 distros for desktop use...

 They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as
 redhat8 and behind lycros and the latest lindows, but
 ahead of SUSE and all the others)

 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely
 to be mandrakes last distro.. they said mandrake had
 committed to 9.1 but after that all bets are off..


 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release
 that I have failed to read??

 I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I
 do, it might as well be sooner rather then later


 Any info would be much appreciated.


 rgds

 Franki

Franki, depending on what magazine you read you'll get 
different opinions. I don't know that *APC-mag*, but 
judging from the statements above the author knows next to 
nothing about linux. You see : Lindows and Lycoris are 
*discount* , down-scaled versions of linux, not full 
distro's. Furthermore they are not *true* linuxes (for 
example, when you log into one of those, you'll have 
root-privileges, thus omitting one of the major benefits of 
linux : security !).

If you really want to compare distros, go to :

http://www.distrowatch.com

that'll change your mind. 

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote:
 Anne,

 What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
 reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.

 Miark

I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be 
problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right 
place to find the disks.  I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said 
about this, but I think it was so.

It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on 
that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems?

Anne
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RE: [newbie] cdwriter

2003-03-20 Thread Jan Verstuyft
Oops, sorry, my mistake.

I have a CD WRITER from HP 7200+

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Slooten
 Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2003 22:47
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] cdwriter
 
 
 On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:43:19 +0100
 Jan Verstuyft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can you help me
 
 If you tell us maybe what writer you have ;-)
 
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RE: [newbie] cdwriter

2003-03-20 Thread Jan Verstuyft
This is the output from the cdrecord -scanbus.

I hope you know enough now.

Kind regards

Jan Verstuyft


Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) 'HP  ' 'CD-Writer+ 7200 ' '3.01' Removable
CD-ROM
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Thayer
 Sent: donderdag 20 maart 2003 6:10
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] cdwriter
 
 
 On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:43:19 +0100
 Jan Verstuyft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  My cdwriter doesn't do what I asked him to do.
  
  Most of the time, he starts writing, and after a 20 Mb, he stops.  
  And, the funny part is that de leds of capslock and 
 scrollock starts 
  going on/off all the time.  For the rest, my machine crashed.  I 
  couldn't do anything any more.
  
  The command that I use is
  
  cdrecord speed=1 dev=0,3,0 -isosize -data cdimage.raw
  
  
  I also tried it without de isosize flag, but it didn't work either.
  
  I must be honest, it worked one time.  But that's it.
  
  Can you help me
  
  Kind regards
  
  Jan Verstuyft
  
  
  
  What output do you get from cdrecord -scanbus?
 
 


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RE: [newbie] cdwriter

2003-03-20 Thread Jan Verstuyft


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adolfo Bello
 Sent: donderdag 20 maart 2003 11:34
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] cdwriter
 
 
 On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 01:09, Scott Thayer wrote:
  On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:43:19 +0100
  Jan Verstuyft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello,
   
   My cdwriter doesn't do what I asked him to do.
   
   Most of the time, he starts writing, and after a 20 Mb, 
 he stops.  
   And, the funny part is that de leds of capslock and 
 scrollock starts 
   going on/off all the time.  For the rest, my machine crashed.  I 
   couldn't do anything any more.
   
   The command that I use is
   
   cdrecord speed=1 dev=0,3,0 -isosize -data cdimage.raw
   
   
   I also tried it without de isosize flag, but it didn't 
 work either.
   
   I must be honest, it worked one time.  But that's it.
   
   Can you help me
   
   Kind regards
   
   Jan Verstuyft
   
   
   
   What output do you get from cdrecord -scanbus?
 
 What messages do you get if you try:
 cdrecord -v -dummy speed=1 dev=0,3,0 -isosize -data cdimage.raw
 


He gave me this if I tried the command from above.

Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schillin
g
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,3,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'HP  '
Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 7200 '
Revision   : '3.01'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16
Drive buf size : 786432 = 768 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data   491 MB
Total size:  564 MB (55:58.53) = 251890 sectors
Lout start:  565 MB (56:00/40) = 251890 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11769 (97:25/06)
  ATIP start of lead out: 359775 (79:59/00)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 64
Manufacturer: MPO
Blocks total: 359775 Blocks current: 359775 Blocks remaining: 107885
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in dummy TAO mode for single
session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 0 seconds. Operation
starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   19 of  491 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf  92%]   2.1x.



And at this moment, he starts blinking again, like I described above.

 BTW, man cdrecord alerts not to use -isosize with iso files 
 created with mkisofs.
 
 Have you tried using the -dao option (in case your drive 
 handles write-at-once), like in: cdrecord -v -dummy -eject 
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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote:
  Anne,
 
  What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
  reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.
 
  Miark
 

 I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there would be 
 problems in that the software installer would not be looking at the right 
 place to find the disks.  I'd have to check back to see exactly what was said 
 about this, but I think it was so.

Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and then later
switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. Is that what you mean?
 
 It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be done on 
 that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems?

I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes directly to 
fstab (if you let it).

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh?

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 03:10, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
 article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...
 They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
 lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)
 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
 last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
 bets are off..
 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed to
 read??
 I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as well
 be sooner rather then later
 Any info would be much appreciated.
 rgds
 Franki

The distro has been standing well enough so far, and with the release of
Mandrake 9.1, I think they're going to be scoring quite a bit higher
than any of the other releases - RH 8.1, if it's going to be anything,
has to be far ahead of RH 8.0 - far ahead in order to get any better
ratings. Either which, IMHO, MDK 9.1 is going to really raise a ruckus 
due to it's overall setup/installation/ease of use/kernel
version/ability to deal with hardware/ability to deal with drivers; it
really is a polished version - lacking the vast majority of problems
that 9.0 had - hence it will live longer.

Now, if the MandrakeSoft management kicks the bucket, that's a different
story - but this is one of the best customer maintained distros.

If they fold, it's their mistake, and hopefully the code will stick with
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Re: [newbie] packetCD

2003-03-20 Thread Graham Watkins
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:27 am, ivette brusselmans wrote:

Anyone any experience with reading CDrw's in UDF-format (packetCD directCD)
in Mandrake.
Can't be done yet.  It is experimental in the 2.5.x kernel right now.

Not so. I've been doing this since MDK 7.2 at least.

Up until 8.2 I'd mount them from the command line with: mount -t udf 
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom.

However, in MDK9 (which I've only been using for a couple of weeks) they 
seem to mount automatically.

Writing to them is a different kettle of worms altogether.  So far as I 
know it can't be done yet.  This is a shame because it's one of the very 
few things that forces me to keep Windoze on my system - well, that and 
lack of support for my scanner.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread et
On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10 am, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
 article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...

 They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
 lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)

 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
 last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
 bets are off..


 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed
 to read??

 I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as
 well be sooner rather then later


 Any info would be much appreciated.


 rgds

 Franki
Now, when did you start believing anyone that rates lindows as better than 
MDK?



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[newbie] Club access to 9.1

2003-03-20 Thread Technoslick
Does anyone know for sure if Club members will have access to 9.1 ISO's
before the general public?

T
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Re: [newbie] Re: Need help: Konqueror is freezing

2003-03-20 Thread Derek Jennings
If your floppy drive is missing when you try to browse /mnt then you will get 
a freeze. (It is not actually a freeze. After about 5 mins it comes to life 
again)

The problem is the system is waiting for a response from the floppy.
I get around the problem in my laptop by disabling the floppy drive in the 
BIOS.
You might fin you also need to disable supermount on the floppy and maybe the 
CD too. You can do that in Mandrake Control Centre.

derek



On Tuesday 18 Mar 2003 9:54 pm, m wrote:
 I had to install Mandrake9.0 via network as my IBM T20
 didn't want to boot from CD. I did boot it from floppy
 with network image and then finished installation via
 Internet. Everything went ok. Now when I replaced
 floppy drive with cd-rom and mounted it manually
 anytme I touch it with Konqueror it freezes. The same
 happens when I touch ntfs partition. It works just
 fine via konsole - no problem to read  copy files
 from ntfs to Linux partition.

 Anybody has gotten idea what should I do to fix it?

 Thx, Martin

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Re: [newbie] Club access to 9.1

2003-03-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:22, Technoslick wrote:
 Does anyone know for sure if Club members will have access to 9.1 ISO's
 before the general public?
 T

No. Clubmembers have to wait until September for their ISO's. The ISO's
will be out for the general public, but Clubmembers are being shafted
this time...(only joking)

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Re: [newbie] How do I feed mail fetched with fetchmail to procmail?

2003-03-20 Thread Derek Jennings
If you have a mail server running on port 25 fetchmail will by default pass 
the mail to the mail server.

If there is nothing listening on port 25, fetchmail will pass the mail to 
procmail if the file ~/.procmailrc exists in the users home directory.

So as long as your .procmailrc file is there it should *just work*

However what can catch you out is the permissions on that file.
You need to have 600 permissions or else it will not work

HTH

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On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:07 pm, David Marsh wrote:
 Hi,

 I've decided to give Mandrake a go, having used Debian for a couple of
 years and eventually come to the conclusion that, while an excellent
 distro, it's too 'techie' for me in a home user environment.

 (I have to say that, so far, I've been very impressed with the ease of
 install of Mandrake)


 I'm just trying to get myself back up and running again with Mandrake.

 I previously used fetchmail to fetch my mail from my various mail
 accounts, and then fed it through procmail in order to filter it into my
 mailboxes.

 Under Debian this magically 'just worked', but I'm not sure how to do it
 under Mandrake?

 Could somebody tell me what I need to configure in order to have
 fetchmail feed mail that it fetches into procmail?


 Thanks for any advice,


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RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Frankie
normally never..

I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..


my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how they rate to
mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10


rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 21 March 2003 4:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?


On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:10 am, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge
linux
 article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...

 They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
 lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)

 Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
 last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
 bets are off..


 Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed
 to read??

 I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as
 well be sooner rather then later


 Any info would be much appreciated.


 rgds

 Franki
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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 +

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote:
   Anne,
  
   What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
   reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.
  
   Miark
 
  I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there
  would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking at
  the right place to find the disks.  I'd have to check back to see exactly
  what was said about this, but I think it was so.

 Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and then
 later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi. Is that
 what you mean?

  It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be
  done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems?

 I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes
 directly to fstab (if you let it).

 Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh?

I forgot that some people had run foul of that one.  I played cautious and 
said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do.  Turned out that was 
exactly the right answer g

So be warned, Oren.  If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your 
fstab.  Say 'No'!

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Re: [newbie] Club access to 9.1

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
No, everybody gets access at the same time, probably sometime 
Friday or this weekend.

Miark


On 20 Mar 2003 15:22:10 -0500
Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know for sure if Club members will have access to 9.1 ISO's
 before the general public?
 
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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 8:55 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 6:42 pm, Miark wrote:
  On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:11:05 +
 
  Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 4:55 pm, Miark wrote:
Anne,
   
What problems? I scsi-emu my DVD drive and I've never had a hiccup
reading data CDs, music CDs, or with copying.
   
Miark
  
   I seem to remember that if you did the install from that drive, there
   would be problems in that the software installer would not be looking
   at the right place to find the disks.  I'd have to check back to see
   exactly what was said about this, but I think it was so.
 
  Maybe I missed the point. If you install Linux from the DVD drive, and
  then later switch from IDE to SCSI emulation, that would confule urmpi.
  Is that what you mean?
 
   It's worth remembering that just about anything he wants to do can be
   done on that disk without scsi-emulation, so why risk problems?
 
  I think using K3b is _more_ dangerous because of the changes it makes
  directly to fstab (if you let it).
 
  Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh?

 I forgot that some people had run foul of that one.  I played cautious and
 said no, since I hadn't a clue what it would try to do.  Turned out that
 was exactly the right answer g

 So be warned, Oren.  If you install K3b it will ask if it can change your
 fstab.  Say 'No'!

 Anne

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Re: [newbie] Club access to 9.1

2003-03-20 Thread Technoslick
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 15:56, Miark wrote:
 No, everybody gets access at the same time, probably sometime 
 Friday or this weekend.
 
 Miark


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RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
 normally never..
 
 I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
 root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
 my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how they rate to
 mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
 rgds
 
 Frank

I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread robin
Frankie wrote:
normally never..

I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how they rate to
mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
I wouldn't worry.  Even if Mandrake goes bust, the code is all GPLed, so 
I'm sure another company or group of volunteers will take it up and make 
a new distro called, I dunno, Ginseng Linux, maybe.

Actually, I'm not sure if the limited company model is the best way to 
go for distributions. It usually means getting venture capitalists 
involved, and as we've seen in the case of Mandrake, they often don't 
have a good idea of the realities of the Free Software world (maybe in 
America there are more geek-savvy investors). A foundation seems like a 
better way to run a Free software project, as the FSF, GNU and Debian 
have done (I admit this also has its problems, since such foundations 
can become isolated from end-users  - I didn't go down the Debian route 
because when I first chose a distro, I downloaded the Debian 
installation guide and couldn't make head nor tail of it, so went for 
Redhat - and in those days, Redhat wasn't what you'd call user-friendly 
either).

Anyway, the important point is that Mandrake isn't the company, it's the 
software and the community that supports it.  I hope the company lives 
long and prospers, but if it doesn't, the software will live on.  You 
can't keep a good idea down.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
All your filesystems (hard drives, CD drives, floppy, etc.) are listed in 
/etc/fstab which is the [F]ile[S]ystem [TAB]le. This is a configuration file 
tell Linux how to properly mount all your filesystems. 

When you install Linux fstab is automatically set up. If you let some program
mess with it, you may lose the full or partial use of that particual 
filesystem. Very few programs do this, but K3b is one of them, and although
its attempts to change fstab are done in good faith, they're wrong.

Miark

 

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:58:42 +
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Re: [newbie] How to get rid of Web Url Action

2003-03-20 Thread drake
A note to developers - I have used gnome for a long time and decided to try 
kde.  This lone feature has driven me crazy enough to switch back.  If I 
hadn't been able to find the answer here I would have.

Either don't make this default to on - or make it so when some fscking popup 
take control from me, ie removes focus from what I'm doing and starts 
capturing my keystrokes, the popup has a configure/properties selection right 
there on it so I can change it's behavior.  Don't make me spend 3 hours 
trying to turn off your nifty little feature.


On Thursday 06 March 2003 06:59 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 12:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 23:30, Adolfo Bello wrote:
   This small feature is bugging me in my Mandrake 9/KDE box.
  
   Every time I select/highlight or right click/copy link an url, a popup
   appear asking me what I want to do with this url.
  
   Is there any way of turning off this feature? It reminds me the
   infamous Help Assistant in M$ Office.
  
   TIA
 
  This is a VERY annoying feature, but luckily, it CAN be turned off. You
  right-click the clipboard icon in the system tray, and uncheck ENABLE
  ACTIONS - once you do that, you're happening!

 It is also possible to configure the actions so they show up in some
 applications and not others. Just click on
 klipperPreferencesActionsAdvanced
 and type the name of the application you do not want Actions to work in.
 The list shows the applications already disabled.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread robin
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:

normally never..

I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how they rate to
mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
rgds
Frank


I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names 
like Mandrake Millenium or Mandrake PX.

By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?  Where I come 
from, it means experience points, but that can't be it, because in any 
decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party 
members in the back (Paranoia being a wonderful exception that really 
captures the atmosphere of the IT world).

And please don't answer that question by saying RTFM.  We ain' gon' 
read no steenking Weendows manuel.

Sir Robin

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[newbie] Linux+ certification???

2003-03-20 Thread Christopher Steimer



I was wondering if anyone had any advice or opinions about the Linux+ 
certification. I am new to Linux and just graduated from Penn State and 
while I'm trying to find a job, I have decided to tackle Linux. All 
suggestions and comments would be greatly appreciated (job offers are accepted 
as well...HAHA)

Thank you


RE: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Jonathan Shilling
Robin,
I think the XP in M$'s latest OS endevour is actually a shortened
version of XPOS ie. eXtreme Piece Of S**t  :D
l8tr


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 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
 
 
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
  
 normally never..
 
 I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user 
 accounts (not all
 root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
 my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how 
 they rate to
 mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
 rgds
 
 Frank
  
  
  I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
 
 I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases 
 silly names 
 like Mandrake Millenium or Mandrake PX.
 
 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?  
 Where I come 
 from, it means experience points, but that can't be it, 
 because in any 
 decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party 
 members in the back (Paranoia being a wonderful exception 
 that really 
 captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
 
 And please don't answer that question by saying RTFM.  We ain' gon' 
 read no steenking Weendows manuel.
 
 Sir Robin
 
 
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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 09:33, robin wrote:
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
  
 normally never..
 
 I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user accounts (not all
 root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
 my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how they rate to
 mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
 rgds
 
 Frank
  
  I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
 
 I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases silly names 
 like Mandrake Millenium or Mandrake PX.
 
...or Mandrake Warp3? Or, how about, Mandrake Zarathrusta? Mandrake
Concorde? Mandrake Mushroom? Mandrake Sooperdooper II? Mandrake Muon?
Mandrake SS?

 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?  Where I come 
 from, it means experience points, but that can't be it, because in any 
 decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party 
 members in the back (Paranoia being a wonderful exception that really 
 captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
 
Extra Pretty? - Actually, it's supposed to stand for Experience - and
after 10 years, that's all it's got...mind you, it IS, by far, the best
Windows that has come out - but still has 10 year old bugs in it and
heaps bloated code...

 And please don't answer that question by saying RTFM.  We ain' gon' 
 read no steenking Weendows manuel.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Miark
 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?  

X stands for cra.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 20 March 2003 05:33 pm, robin wrote:

 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for? 

eXPerience

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Re: [newbie] How to get rid of Web Url Action

2003-03-20 Thread robin
drake wrote:
A note to developers - I have used gnome for a long time and decided to try 
kde.  This lone feature has driven me crazy enough to switch back.  If I 
hadn't been able to find the answer here I would have.

Either don't make this default to on - or make it so when some fscking popup 
take control from me, ie removes focus from what I'm doing and starts 
capturing my keystrokes, the popup has a configure/properties selection right 
there on it so I can change it's behavior.  Don't make me spend 3 hours 
trying to turn off your nifty little feature.
I couldn't agree more. KDE people, please kill this dead. I realise that 
one of the strengths of KDE is that it provides ex-Windows users with a 
familiar-looking interface, but this doesn't have to go as far as 
replicating its most irritating features.  If we don't watch out, we'll 
have a KDE paperclip.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Jose Mirles
Frankie wrote:
Hi guys,

I bought APC magazine here in Australia recently, and they had a huge linux
article comparing all the major distros for desktop use...
They didn't rate mdk9 all that highly, (same score as redhat8 and behind
lycros and the latest lindows, but ahead of SUSE and all the others)
Anwyay, in the article they mentioned that 9.1 was likely to be mandrakes
last distro.. they said mandrake had committed to 9.1 but after that all
bets are off..
Anyone know if thats true??  is there some mdk release that I have failed to
read??
I hope like hell I don't have to go elsewhere, but if I do, it might as well
be sooner rather then later

They rated Mandrake behind Lindows and Lycoris? Lycoris is bare! You get 
very little. Plus the applications are outdated. It's good for newbies 
coming from Windows.

Lindows has no security, since all users have root rights and you have 
to pay for programs that come free with the other distros. It is a 
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Re: [newbie] can't eject cd after burning

2003-03-20 Thread Richard Urwin
On Tuesday 18 Mar 2003 10:29 pm, darklord wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 11:06 am, Todd Slater wrote:
  Yeah, I've tried eject. I probably had some ROX-filer windows open but I
  can't say for sure.
 
  Todd

 Todd, have you tried lsof /dev/device (or /mnt/device) to see what still
 has a hold of it?

 Might help point the way.  :-)

I have just had exactly the same problem. Wrote a CDRW in GCombust, finished 
OK, wouldn't eject the CD.

lsof reported that nothing on the cd was open. ie lsof|grep cdrom2 and 
lsof|grep scd0 both reported nothing.

Seeing that nothing was open I unmounted it with umount -l /mnt/cdrom2 and 
that at least gave me my cd back. Everything appeared fairly sane I think. 
The jury is still out as to whether I can burn another CD following this one, 
and I'm no expert about what I might have broken with that unmount.

I did have supermount enabled.

(My drive is a Dyson 1622 (ages old!) and the Media is CMC badged as Memorex.)

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Re: [newbie] Configuring X-CD-Roast

2003-03-20 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 20 Mar 2003 9:09 pm, Miark wrote:
 Miark
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday March 20 2003 04:33 pm, robin wrote:
 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?

  Xtra Proprietary

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Peter Pankonin
On Thursday 20 March 2003 03:33 pm, robin wrote:
 By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?

Expect Problems

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Re: [newbie] How to get rid of Web Url Action

2003-03-20 Thread derek
robin wrote:

drake wrote:

A note to developers - I have used gnome for a long time and decided 
to try kde.  This lone feature has driven me crazy enough to switch 
back.  If I hadn't been able to find the answer here I would have.

Either don't make this default to on - or make it so when some 
fscking popup take control from me, ie removes focus from what I'm 
doing and starts capturing my keystrokes, the popup has a 
configure/properties selection right there on it so I can change it's 
behavior.  Don't make me spend 3 hours trying to turn off your nifty 
little feature.


I couldn't agree more. KDE people, please kill this dead. I realise 
that one of the strengths of KDE is that it provides ex-Windows users 
with a familiar-looking interface, but this doesn't have to go as far 
as replicating its most irritating features.  If we don't watch out, 
we'll have a KDE paperclip.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread et
On Thursday 20 March 2003 06:34 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Thursday March 20 2003 04:33 pm, robin wrote:
  By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?

   Xtra Proprietary
XPectorate as in to spit
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Re: [newbie] How to get rid of Web Url Action

2003-03-20 Thread Preston-Campbell
 Thursday 20 March 2003 07:56 pm, derek wrote:
 robin wrote:
  drake wrote:
  A note to developers - I have used gnome for a long time and
  decided to try kde.  This lone feature has driven me crazy
  enough to switch back.  If I hadn't been able to find the answer
  here I would have.
 
  Either don't make this default to on - or make it so when some
  fscking popup take control from me, ie removes focus from what
  I'm doing and starts capturing my keystrokes, the popup has a
  configure/properties selection right there on it so I can change
  it's behavior.  Don't make me spend 3 hours trying to turn off
  your nifty little feature.
 
  I couldn't agree more. KDE people, please kill this dead. I
  realise that one of the strengths of KDE is that it provides
  ex-Windows users with a familiar-looking interface, but this
  doesn't have to go as far as replicating its most irritating
  features.  If we don't watch out, we'll have a KDE paperclip.
 
  Sir Robin
 
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 It would be a Kaperclip :)


KDE doesn't have the paperclip but OO Writer has that [EMAIL PROTECTED] lightbulb.  
What's that about?

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Re: [newbie] How do I feed mail fetched with fetchmail to procmail?

2003-03-20 Thread Guy Rouillier
I'm not booted to Linux at the moment, but man fetchmail (perhaps man 
fetchmailrc) had sufficient instructions for me to set it up.

David Marsh wrote:
Hi,

I've decided to give Mandrake a go, having used Debian for a couple of
years and eventually come to the conclusion that, while an excellent
distro, it's too 'techie' for me in a home user environment.
(I have to say that, so far, I've been very impressed with the ease of
install of Mandrake)
I'm just trying to get myself back up and running again with Mandrake.

I previously used fetchmail to fetch my mail from my various mail
accounts, and then fed it through procmail in order to filter it into my
mailboxes.
Under Debian this magically 'just worked', but I'm not sure how to do it
under Mandrake?
Could somebody tell me what I need to configure in order to have
fetchmail feed mail that it fetches into procmail?
Thanks for any advice,

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[newbie] Placement of PCI cards and upgrading ALSA.

2003-03-20 Thread James Henry Maiewski
Cards:
Creative Labs|SB Live! 5.1
Us Robotics.3Com|56K FaxModem Model 5610
OS: Mandrake 9.0
Board: ASUS A7V

Hello,

In my further effort to play sound files (I am rewarded with crackling and 
static whenever I unmute Pcm in KMix, with added static when I attempt to 
play a file), I've decided to upgrade to ALSA 0.9.2 (ML 9.0 loads 0.9rc2).  
Alsa-sound-mini-HOWTO says one must first get rid of the existing drivers, 
and suggests removing 'sound.o' from the '/lib/modules/kernel_version/misc 
directory,' which I don't seem to have.  After setting CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=N 
in xconfig and recompiling, Kmod (or something which I assume is KMod) still 
loads it on boot.  How do I go about cleansing ALSA v0.9.rc2?  What's safe to 
alter in /etc/modules.conf?  While I'm at it, should I get rid of any of the 
other sound support modules besides the basic sound card support?

On a parallel track, I'm trying to rectify what might be IRQ conflicts by 
changing the slots into which I place my PCI modem and SBL! cards.  Initial 
attempts shows that this does indeed make a difference, although my first 
attempt apparently created more conflicts than I originally had.  Is there an 
optimal choice of slots for these two cards?  What are the pros and cons of 
setting the IRQ in BIOS?  I gather that sound quality (I wish I were in a 
position to b concerned about quality!) can be adversely affected by the 
sound card's proximity to other cards; any comments?

I wish to thank, in advance, anybody for their help, and thank past efforts.  
It is with no little embarrassment that I also need to ask what the normal 
procedure is in replying to a reply such that my responce is posted and not 
sent to an individual (as I fear I have previously been doing).

Again, my thanks,
Jim M.

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Re: [newbie] How to get rid of Web Url Action

2003-03-20 Thread James Henry Maiewski
On Thursday 20 March 2003 09:53 pm, Preston-Campbell wrote:

 KDE doesn't have the paperclip but OO Writer has that [EMAIL PROTECTED] lightbulb.
 What's that about?

 Brian
Here Here!  The lightbulb is the worst!  As an added attraction, all the fonts 
look rink-e-dink on my screen.  I use Kwrite, but maybe when I get a printer, 
I might change my mind.

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Re: [newbie] Starting MySQL at boot time

2003-03-20 Thread Joeb
This is in 9.1, but I think it holds true for 9.0, also.  Go to the Mandrake Control 
Center, and go to the System option.  From there, there should be an option called 
DrakServices.  Select it and it gives you all the various services installed.  Select 
the one for MySQL and tell it to start at boot.

Joeb

On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:06:57 -0800 (PST)
Christopher Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would be the easiest way to get MySQL server to start when the system boots?  I 
 just
 installed Mandrake 9.0, and installed MySQL server from packages, but it does not 
 start at boot
 time.
 
 Thanks,
 
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[newbie] Mdk 9 compatible printers list

2003-03-20 Thread Andrei Raevsky
Hi,

Can anyone point me to a Mdk 9 -compatible printer list?  The hardware
compatibility list on the Mandrake site is not too helpful and, besides, I
cannot take it with me to a local shop.  As for the list in the MCC, it
includes also printers which are not supported (yet?).  Ideally, I would
need a text file I can place on a diskette and take with me.

Thanks!



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Re: [newbie] Mdk 9 compatible printers list

2003-03-20 Thread James Henry Maiewski
Hello,

I've found [http://www.linuxprinting.org] to be very helpful.

-Jim M.

On Thursday 20 March 2003 11:49 pm, Andrei Raevsky wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone point me to a Mdk 9 -compatible printer list?  The hardware
 compatibility list on the Mandrake site is not too helpful and, besides, I
 cannot take it with me to a local shop.  As for the list in the MCC, it
 includes also printers which are not supported (yet?).  Ideally, I would
 need a text file I can place on a diskette and take with me.

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Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?

2003-03-20 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 20 March 2003 02:57 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
 Robin,
   I think the XP in M$'s latest OS endevour is actually a shortened
 version of XPOS ie. eXtreme Piece Of S**t  :D
 l8tr

  -Original Message-
  From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:33 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] is this the last mandrake?
 
  Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 07:51, Frankie wrote:
  normally never..
  
  I have not seen new lindows though, apparently it has user
 
  accounts (not all
 
  root) and fixit alot of stuff that people didn't like..
  my main question is mdk's future..  I don't care really how
 
  they rate to
 
  mags..  I care about if there is gonna be a mandrake 10
  rgds
  
  Frank
  
   I think there will be a Mandrake 11, mate...
 
  I hope so. Just as long as they don't start giving releases
  silly names
  like Mandrake Millenium or Mandrake PX.
 
  By the way, what does the XP in Windows XP stand for?
  Where I come
  from, it means experience points, but that can't be it,
  because in any
  decent RPG, you don't get experience points for stabbing other party
  members in the back (Paranoia being a wonderful exception
  that really
  captures the atmosphere of the IT world).
 
  And please don't answer that question by saying RTFM.  We ain' gon'
  read no steenking Weendows manuel.
 
  Sir Robin
 
 
  --
  The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't
  mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake.
  - Wittgenstein
 
  Robin Turner
  IDMYO
  Bilkent Univeritesi
  Ankara 06533
  Turkey
 
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[newbie] Radeon All-in-Wonder 7500 video out

2003-03-20 Thread gikoreno

Hey everyone:

I am trying to get the TV-out on a machine that's running Mandrake linux 9.0 to work.

What I would like to be able to do is to receive the TV signal through the coaxial 
cable and then use the S-video-out (using the provided s-video to composite converter) 
to output the signal on the actual TV.

Then I could also read DVDs from the PC and watch them on the TV screen.

If I boot the computer with the s-video (or composite video) cable connected, it will 
boot to console mode no problem, and the console stuff will be visible on the TV too.
The problem arises when trying to start the X server. I get the following message:

  (EE) RADEON(0): No valid mode found for this DFP/LCD
  (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a useable configuration

Running XFdrake doesn't work, so I don't know what else I can do.
If I disconnect the video-out cable and reboot, the Xserver will start like normal, no 
problems will be encountered, but no output to TV will happen either...

Has anyone gotten this working, and could you provide me with the Xfree configuration 
file that works for the Radeon All-in-Wonder 7500?

Thanks a lot. I've been looking everywhere on the net for this, but I only saw people 
having the same question, and no answers.
I am sure that there are lots of people who would be interested in knowing how to do 
that too.

Thanks in advance,

gikoreno

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