[newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? Mr. hopeful, Bill Mudry Mississauga, Ontario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 16:36, Bill Mudry wrote: This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? How long did you wait? I upgraded my daughter's pc to 10.1 from 10 and on bootup, it did the same. I left it for apprx. 10 minutes, then the graphical login appeared. Never did it again, so might just be configuring? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
At 05:56 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Cut for brevity :-) I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? The card is an ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC. It has a Rage IIC chip. It is 1998 vintage. Doesn't that 3D mean that it, instead, should support 3D? Where do I go, what do I do to put it into Vesa? Since this may very well be a 3D card, should I still by trying out Vesa? One step closer, still hopeful ;-) Bill -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
At 08:19 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. Updating my kernel on 10.0 is just where I am and I need advice. I cannot come up with any kernels using urpmq or urpmf even at 2.6.8 and up. This is after updating urpmi successfully to the point this week that I was able to install a huge slew of progams successfully with urpmi with practically no dependency problems. This also included over 800 meg of updates :-). Am I doing something wrong? Please help me know how I can take the easiest and fastest way to upgrade the kernel to the present stable one. I will be pleased to be totally up to date for once but I look to when this is successfully done so I can go on to other things I wish to do. Just a thought. Is there a way to update urpmi only for the kernel?? With thanks. I will try to follow the rest of this thread also. Bill Mudry Mississauga, Ontario derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
At 06:40 PM 11/23/04 +, you wrote: FWIW I have Asus mobos on two boxes, one of which has onboard ethernet. It is recognised and runs without problems. I have heard a lot of terms, but - what is a mobo?? Anne Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help requested getting Apache virtual servers going
Could someone help me find out why I cannot get some virtual hosts going on Apache. I know my Apache is running ok since I can access it via localhost. I am running Mandrake 10.0. It also responds with [ok] for apachectl start and stop. Could any of you give suggestions on how I can get some virtual hosts going. In particularly, I hope to be able to place virtual web hosts under a public_html directory within the home directories of accounts. I have followed instructions as I found in more than one manual or how-to but I cannot seem to bring up index.htm or index.html files I placed in public_html neither on the local machine or on another (win98) PC on my local net. Below is a copy of the Vhosts.conf file. It may be something in that file but since a lot of this was copied and adopted from working examples, I suspect it is some other problem. May permissions? Ownerships? If you are not interested in assisting, no use reading past this point. The Vhost.conf copy below is included just in case it helps debugging. With thanks in advance, Bill Mudry Mississauga, ON # Vhosts.conf #This is where we store the VirtualHosts configuration. # #Since Apache 1.3.19, we modified the setup to include some nice tricks: # #- We added the User and Group directives so VirtualHosts now work with # suexec directive. If set, Apache will run all cgi scripts under that # user and group (provided the uid and gid are 100 for security). The # directories and cgi files *must* belong to that user/group for the # feature to work #- We added the Setenv VLOG directive. This works in conjunction with # the CustomLog in common.conf. When Setenv VLOG is set, apache will # create a /var/log/httpd/VLOG--MM-ServerName.log instead of logging # to access_log. Use this instead of defining a special logfile for # each vhost, otherwise you eat up file descriptors. #- You can also specify a path for the VLOG for each Vhost, for example, # to place the logs in each user's directory. However, if you want to # use the file for accounting, place it in a directory owned by root, # otherwise the user will be able to erase it. #- I suggest only including the ErrorLog *only* if the vhost will use # cgi scripts. Again, it saves file descriptors! #- We added the Rewrite directives so vhosts will work with the # PERLPROXIED configuration # IP-based Virtual Hosts #VirtualHost 192.168.2.100 #User jmdault #Group jmdault #DocumentRoot /home/jmdault/public_html #ServerName test2.com #Setenv VLOG /home/jmdault/logs #ErrorLogs /home/jmdault/test2-error_log #RewriteEngine On #RewriteOptions inherit #/VirtualHost # Named VirtualHosts #NameVirtualHost 111.222.33.44 #VirtualHost 111.222.33.44 #ServerName www.domain.tld #ServerPath /domain #DocumentRoot /web/domain #/VirtualHost ## NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.200 VirtualHost 192.168.2.200 ServerName billmudry.com ServerPath /home/bill DocumentRoot /home/bill/public_html #ErrorLogs /home/bill/error_log.bill /VirtualHost ## NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.201 VirtualHost 192.168.2.201 ServerName mikewalters.com ServerPath /home/mike DocumentRoot /home/mike/public_html TransferLog logs/access.mike ErrorLog logs/error.mike /VirtualHost ## NameVirtualHost 192.168.2.200 VirtualHost * ServerName www.billmudry.com ServerPath /home/bill ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerAlias billmudry.com DocumentRoot/home/bill/public_html #ErrorLogs /home/bill/error_log.bill Directory / OptionsFollowSymLinks AllowOverride None /Directory Directory /home/bill/public_html OptionsIndexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory DirectoryIndex index.html AccessFileName .htaccess LogLevelwarn ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/bill/cgi-bin/ Directory /home/bill/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None OptionsNone Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory /VirtualHost Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users? Debian NOT.
had bombed on me. This time it worked ... including getting KDE going. The first try got the text going ok but not a graphical interface. My Mandrake 10.0 is stable now. You may wish to know that I have been a power user going back to pre DOS. Ten to Twelve years ago I even took a series of SCO courses and helped care for a community of over 30 people. I have no reason to just be boastful at all but mention this to show that even a person with a reasonable starting background can STILL find Linux tremendously complex. Once it's installed, you've got a functional desktop in terms of all the basics, Exactly --- once installed. and Synaptic is very close to the Mandrake package manager in MCC, perhaps not as polished. For all the people that dis' Debian, you've got to ask yourself: why is it, We are not just trying to give Debian a bad name. Life is not just black or just white. Debian maybe could be useable by newcomers AFTER it is installed. It can be a nightmare for the uninitiated to install. then, that distros like Knoppix (and all its variations), Mepis, and Xandros have chosen Debian as their base? BECAUSE .. they are recognitions of a need to taking Debian to a more user friendly level. Simple as that. I doubt anyone is saying anything about the internal stability, configurability and good structure of Debian itself, only that it is, frankly, a techie's distro. If any distro is likely to 'scare' a newbie, I'd wager it's Slackware or Gentoo, certainly not Debian. Could be. I have seen a lot of threads lately, though, that are encouraging on Mepis, Knoppix, Mandrake and a few others that either require no install or have easy, graphical, step by step installs with a lot of internal artificial intellligence that protects the less techy crowd from difficult procedures and concepts. This is supposed to be a NEWBIE list. If you want to encourage people to start with Linux, not be quickly discouraged, continue to use it and rise to the next level (beginning amateur?), you have to THINK like a newbie . not as the advanced experts you are. Some people can be highly competent technically but poor and intolerant teachers unless they are willing to apply a goodly measure of humility to the knowledge they have. This is the first step toward being able to mentor others. This makes me want to ask --- do we have any criteria for the level of questions that should be dealt with in a newbie list like this? At what level should a person decide to shift to a more advanced list? The level of knowledge of those requesting help I have noticed has been quite high (not just beginning level). -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org Bill Mudry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Errors I still get on Kmail
I finally got my kmail working --- I think ... My hesitation is because of the error that still comes up when I check for mail: Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: recipient address rejected: need fully-qualified address) The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. The following transport protyocol was used: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just checked and this error happens each time I check. How can deal with getting rid of this consistent error? With faith for excellent help, Bill Mudry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Move CD?
At 10:14 PM 11/9/04 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday 09 November 2004 08:42 pm, Eric Scott wrote: Yo; I'm burning 9.2 discs for a friend, and I've got a disk labelled Mandrake 9.2 Move CD. Is this important or worth burning? He's brand new to Linux, I'll actually probably start him with SuSE 'fore MDK 9.2, it seems more Windows-user-friendly. (I dunno 'bout MDK 10, it's not done downloading ;-)) Thanx, SigmaChi Mandrake Move 9.2 is a bootable cd that will allow him to run Mandrake 9.2 without installing it. A Move based on 10.0 was recently reloeased which will have more up to date packages. This is an excellent way to try it before installing it. Sounds like an easy way to demonstrate Linux some on a friend's computer without actually having to partition and install it. Does it modify the target computer any? Bill Mudry -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
