[newbie] remove Mandrake safely
Hi Mike, Monday, July 8, 2002, 8:49:14 PM, you wrote: MS I recently had to do this myself in order to cleanly reinstall Linux. After MS several frustrating attempts to use DOS's FDISD, I went to www.fdisk.com to MS download their freebie version which works with MD as well as MS. My original query was about separate Win2000 and MD8.2 hard drives and LiLo as boot manager. I want to remove the MD8.2 hard drive and site it in a separate box so I can play around learning Apache. I want my Win2000 (single partition) to remain happy and safe as I run my business pretty much off it Anyway, I'm not sure that my original query has been answered so far ... or rather I don't yet feel comfortable about carrying out some of the suggestions made. So, did you have a similar set up and after completing where you left with a happy Win2000 disk? If yes ... PLEASE let me know exactly what you did. Thanks to people who have tried to help so far, but you're dealing with an overworked and slightly paranoid MD newbie here ;-) With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Charity consulting: http://www.coaching-lab.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Removing mandrake 8.2 ...
Hi Jose, Saturday, July 6, 2002, 11:22:45 PM, you wrote: JV It's easy... with a win boot disk do fdisk /mbr that will erase lilo if JV it is on master boot record, then go into windows and with partition JV magic erase the linux partitions... that's the way I'm use to do... JV If something wrong here, someone tell me... but this with me works... Ok ... that sounds a bit scary. So, what exactly is deleted and if the master boot record goes, how does Win2000 boot? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Charity consulting: http://www.coaching-lab.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
Hi Marc, Wednesday, May 29, 2002, 1:45:41 PM, you wrote: M It seemed to me that they have little to choose from but Linux and M Mac but mac machines seem overpriced and not very avalable. That M leaves very little in the way of options except linux. Consider how you're doing the analysis of value. Running a business, it's important to factor in not only the capital expenditure on the equipment itself but also the long term usage and short/mid term training factors relating to staff. I use Win2000 day to day, I have a Apple PowerBook G3 running pure OSX and play around with Mandrake. I have a slight emotional attachment to Mac's but I don't let that influence my maths. Mandrake may save me £500 short term, but the projected on going support and staff training costs would be too much for most small to mid sized enterprises. People don't know Linux. Windows is expensive up front, but has lowish support costs as most people are familiar with it (yes, there is a cost issue re. potential virus problems, etc). Mac's are easy to use, people like them and so use them more (in my experience of business buying anyway). They cost more, generally, than a equally/more powerful Win box. I'd love to recommend Macs but as a hard nosed business type I'd have to recommend Windows boxes for most people. Linux ... not even in the running for most people who have to worry about support and training. Just 2c's worth and I await friendly flames ;-) With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AT LAST Can get beyond user name!!!
Hi Derek, and others Well, at the final hour just as I was about to kick Mandrake into the 'can't be bothered trash can' I tried the 'hid' thing that Derek pointed me to and it worked ... this was the third time I'd tried mind you! So, spent a bit of time in the company of Mandrake and got to like it ... not up to the standard of Mac OSX, but as certainly could use it over Win2000. Now I just need to get my Alcatel ADSL modem working ... think I need to download and save to floppy or CD in Windows and then open Linux and install. I will shout if I get stuck. Meanwhile, thanks a bunch. Brilliant support! With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi et, Saturday, May 18, 2002, 9:28:07 PM, you wrote: e hey if you want to send me that bad HD I would be more than pleased to have e it. my guess is that you did not install some network service that was not e only installed previously but was mis-configured, and since you did not e install it this time, you are not waitting for it to time out everytime e before your computer finds each file it needs to read into memory. Well I put it on another machine, formatted the Linux off it and installed Win2000 ... guess what S L O W and wasn't even on the network ;-) While taking it out the machine I noticed it had a 3 year warrantee and still valid, so logged on to Maxtor and seems I just need to send it back and two days later a replacement arrives! Anyway, latest saga ... probably the last as I'm pretty well sick of trying to get Mandrake to work on my machine ... is that the MS optical mouse won't work. Tried a work around Derek found me: you´ve got to edit the /etc/modules file, just include the hid module you must add hid into the file /etc/modules then the mouse works fine but still doesn't work. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 1006660 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] menubar back in Opera6?
Hi shane, Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 10:19:06 PM, you wrote: s On Tuesday 14 May 2002 13:53, FemmeFatale opened a general hailing frequency s and transmitted to all open stations: We're going to start calling you Captain Obvious if you keep this up Shane :) Or at the least, I will. s going to? ;) With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] deny access to su
Hi Damian, Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 10:13:55 PM, you wrote: DG On Tue, 14 May 2002 13:21:59 -0700 DG Mike Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Viron wrote: Change the group ownership on su to root:wheel . Next, remove execute permission from other on su. I have to say I find this option kind of puzzling. What's the rationale exactly? Why couldn't an opponent who knew the root pword just execute his *own* copy of su? It seems it would have nuisance value at best. Not that nuisance value couldn't be of some practical use, provided the security admin doesn't think it's a substitute for safeguarding passwords. Or maybe it's to prevent *inadvertant* rather than malicious damage? Something like: People in our group might find out the root pword and be tempted to su to quick-fix some difficulty they're having, then they might break something and we wouldn't know who was responsible, so we'll just remove the temptation? I guess that makes a certain amount of sense, but it's not terribly flattering to your coworkers. DG hmm.. how about denying read access too? DG Damian With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] - inetd.conf file?
Hi Gerald, Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 10:17:34 PM, you wrote: GW On Tuesday 14 May 2002 04:53 pm, Schwenk, Jeanie wrote: It is not running and there is no /var/run/xinetd.pid. I installed the OS just a couple weeks ago, could something simply not have been installed? GW what happens if you start it GW /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd start GW What does GW chkconfig --list | grep xinetd GW say? GW xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on4:on5:on6:off GW If its off in 345 do GW chkconfig --level 345 xinetd on GW This will get it to start on boot With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi folks, DC I will try to 'startx' and tell you what happens. Ok ... all went as usual to the command line. Took 8 minutes for the blue progress bar to reach end and shift to user/password screen. That is way too slow and why I'm considering faulty HD. Anyway, entered startx and got a load of stuff scroll up screen. Main error message I could make out was fatal server error: no screens found. Then did a dmesg and again only thing I could make out as an error was: /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: I/O error: dev 08:09 Sector 0 Ideas? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 8.2 DVD
Hi, Monday, May 13, 2002, 11:56:46 PM, you wrote: DO Ohh So... The latest Linux Format DVD has Mandrake 8.2 on it? Does it DO have anything else? Or just Mandrake? And is it a bootable DVD, or does it DO just have ISOs on it? This would be handier than the 3 CDs... Installs straight from DVD and it has a lot of other stuff on it. Check magazine out for details. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi Tim, Femme and Derek Sunday, May 12, 2002, 2:43:07 AM, you wrote: TH We need a little more information Dave. Thanks for the useful responses. To assist further I have posted much more detail, including what happens before things ... er, stop happening! Hope you can help as I haven't got much more hair to pull out :-( With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi Ed, Dave, when you get the text screen don't do anything, wait a minute and it should continue to boot to the graphical login screen. That text screen is not the last thing to pop up. Give it a minute and see what happens. HTH Ok ... gave several minutes, made a cup of tea, gave a few more and decided this wasn't the problem. Thanks 'tho. e its also worth noting that you may not see any return or echo of some e digits when you login with the password. just type it correctly and hit e ehter. Yes, I have got this far and after entering user and pass I get this: [condyk@localhost condyk]$ What does this mean? I then wait a further several minutes ... nothing. Press enter, get the same message. I actually am thinking my HD is knackered, as it takes for ever to boot even this far and clicks now and again!! But why wouldn't I at least be able to boot, 'tho slowly? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] UPDATE Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi, Sunday, May 12, 2002, 10:52:35 PM, you wrote: d I'm not being insulting here (I've not been following this thread - sorry!) d but are you fairly new to Linux? If so, just keep posting/asking questions, d we'll help you all we can! ;-) Short answer ... yes, a newbie in nappies. Windows and Mac easy, Linux learning from ground up. I think the last few posts from some very helpful individuals have cracked it. It's very obvious stuff when you know ... but when you don't know what you need to know, a bit trickier ;-) I will try to 'startx' and tell you what happens. With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Can't even get beyond user name!!!
Hi Linux fans, Saturday, May 11, 2002, 7:40:30 PM, you wrote: This is a classic newbuie question, but I'll ask it anyway in hope of a simple answer and Mandrake 8.2 id driving me nuts. OK, I've finally installed, after wrestling with a faulty bootable DVD and I get to a screen that asks for my user name, so I enter it perfectly correctly. I am then asked for my password; again entered perfectly, but nothing appears and I wait. Nothing. SO I press return and some routine starts and then everything stops. Is this normal or weird, or what? Maybe I need to enter some geekie command line stuff; if so, please HELP!!! With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Consultant, Trainer Management Coach International Coach Federation, ID 100666 Voluntary sector support: http://www.coaching-lab.com Coaching via e-mail: http://www.e-coaching-only.com Coaching for women: http://www.womens-life-coach.com Web development/hosting: http://www.turnkey-coach.com ICQ 127865569 Phone/Fax +44 (0)1225 314694 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com