[newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, andwant to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that effect). When I clicked "OK" - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO
Well, this is great! I didn't expect so many responses. ANYWAY - everybody so far has asked me to check the BIOS settings, and I have replied that my CD-ROM is indeed at the top of the boot list. Further to that, Anders (in this reply) asked if I can use the CD-ROM in Windows - the answer if YES. He also asked if my BIOS sees it. Again, YES. EXCEPT when I've got the Linux CD in the drive I'm very confused. Diane - Original Message - From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles* I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows? If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom? It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but it is the most common type) Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote: Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted. Just to make sure. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Diane P.S. I have checked the cables - all is well (Simon wrote the following to me): just a thought here if you go back to your bios menu... usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen you'll see something like this if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave channel type start end blocks type 1 IDE 0001 8787 8787block 2 - - - -AUTO seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved to problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom - Original Message - From: Simon Prosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote: Dianne, You may need to go a step further and check your hardware connections. Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the CD-rom drive itself. Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if it has, then this could be your problem. From what you described in your previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive. Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com HTH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z4nft3yCLmAxGjYRAuWDAJwOzu0jrwgVKLWEsoRBEQ/+RFf0LwCgjc+6 1UFWfY1sdXcr11BGmEx/AI4= =AnAr -END PGP SIGNATURE
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - REPLY TO ALL (whew!), DESPERATE MEASURES FOR SURE!
My gosh, what a helpful bunch you all are! This is a general reply to everyone who has answered this - just so there's some background to go with .. I have my CD at the top of the boot list. All cables and connections are good. I am able to boot from a floppy. I cannot boot from ANY bootable CD. I can access the CD's once I've booted from the floppy. I did create a bootable flopy with Linux, using the cdrom.img. Was able to boot up and start the installation, but computer rebooted mid-process (see my first post for the results - they weren't good! Diane - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - To Dennis and Jonathan
OK, guys, these are two things I haven't tried yet. Dennis suggested I connect my CD-ROM as the Primary SLAVE. Jonathan suggested I try disconnecting the CD-RW. I'm going to try both right now. I will post back to the list with the results! Thank you so much to everyone for trying to help me out. I am really anxious to learn Linux, but this has been very discouraging for me. Wish me luck! Diane P.S. I checked the jumpers on these drives a few days ago - they are set properly. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Shilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Dianne, You may want to try disconnecting the cd-rw drive and leaving only the cd-rom as secondary master, there may be a conflict between the two drives. If that works, check the device jumper settings on the two drives and make sure that they are not both trying to claim the master setting, Jonathan -Original Message- From: et [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - Update
Hi again, No problem - I'm getting replies so fast I can hardly keep up to it myself! Anway, it rebooted during the process of installing the actual program files. No warning at all - she just up and quit - and rebooted. When this happened it did come back to the Press enter to install screen, and the progress bar indicated that it was loading files (although I hadn't pressed enter). In all honesty, I don't remember if the floppy was still in the drive or not ... Too much going on and I'm just about braindead. As an update - I just disconnected the CD-RW - Still can't boot from the CD-ROM. Now I'm going to set up the CD-ROM as Primary SLAVE and see where that gets me. Diane - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:36 PM so sorry I jumped in late and did not read the complete first post to reliaze you had already tried cdrom.img, how ever, rebooting durring the install process is not normal, (this ain't winders) and I am now wondering at what point and why did it reboot? and was the floppy still in the floppy drive when it reboots? and before it reboots durring the install process does it give you the chance to reboot or does it just throwdown and restart? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - To Dennis and Jonathan
Hi et, The can't find Cd-ROM drive message appears on a blud screen, with text only, and this happens after the computer reboots. It is definitley being generated by Linux. And, Yes - as a matter of fact, it does have a onboard shared memory video card. Hmm... Diane - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - To Dennis and Jonathan On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:36 pm, et wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:29 pm, Diane Arsenault wrote: OK, guys, these are two things I haven't tried yet. Dennis suggested I connect my CD-ROM as the Primary SLAVE. Jonathan suggested I try disconnecting the CD-RW. I'm going to try both right now. I will post back to the list with the results! Thank you so much to everyone for trying to help me out. I am really anxious to learn Linux, but this has been very discouraging for me. Wish me luck! Diane P.S. I checked the jumpers on these drives a few days ago - they are set properly. so sorry I jumped in late and did not read the complete first post to reliaze you had already tried cdrom.img, how ever, rebooting durring the install process is not normal, (this ain't winders) and I am now wondering at what point and why did it reboot? and was the floppy still in the floppy drive when it reboots? and before it reboots durring the install process does it give you the chance to reboot or does it just throwdown and restart? and a good chance to introduce you to a kwel feature in most linux shells. autocomplete. anytime you dont know the name of some command or how to complete some command with the complete name of a file, type in what ever you know, and if you got no clue, leave it blank, but hit tab and autocomplete will offer up all the remaining possiblities, so when it asks for kernel info what does it say when you tab? when you say and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. is this in the installers graphic program? I would also like to know if this has an onboard shared memory video card, as that may be the root of any reboot durring install, other than the final reboot. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie
Hi, When I first tried installing XP on this thing, I called the tech support. The guy I spoke to told me that when he installs XP he disconnects everything - right down to modems, video cards, etc - before attempting the install. I figure if you have to be a Philadelphia Lawyer to install it, they can keep it! The thing from HP about disconnect all peripherals not including the monitor - That's like the message Keyboard not found. Press F1 ... Diane - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie I also like to sware away from boxes that HP Pavilions that ship with Windows XP do not come with recovery CDs. Instead, they use a hidden space (partition) on the hard drive to store the recovery information. The use of a hidden partition provides a convenient process that eliminates the need to use the system recovery discs that may become lost or scratched. Recovery discs for Windows XP can still be attained through HP for minimal cost. also makes reconfiguring the HD not as simple as it should/could be and I find a somewhat strange way to boot from cdrom not quite as straight forward as one might think; (from the HP site) 1.) Do not insert any discs into the HP Pavilion before starting. Disconnect all peripherals from the PC, except the keyboard and mouse. 2.) Turn the computer on and press the F1 key when the first blue screen appears. 3.) Press the RIGHT arrow key until Boot is highlighted. 4.) Press the DOWN arrow key until Boot Device Priority is highlighted. 5.) Press the ENTER key, then press the DOWN arrow and highlight the listed CD-ROM drive. 6.) Press the PLUS (+) key until the CD-ROM is at the top of the list. 7.) Insert the first recovery disc into the CD-ROM drive. 8.) Press the F10 key, and press ENTER to save settings and exit. 9.) Read the screens that appear. Press the desired keys and insert the remaining discs, in order, when prompted. I wonder why Disconnect all peripherals from the PC, except the keyboard and mouse, and obviously they don't think the monitor is a peripheral. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hello Civileme, Oops - sorry about the HTML - I didn't realize it wasn't set to plain text. OK - info about my computer. It's a HP Pavilion 7915, and I purchased it from a company that sells factory overstocks from HP. It came hardware only (FYI - it did have Win98 on it, but when I first installed XP it trashed that). Her are the specs I know: - Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz Processor - Socket 370 Motherboard, 100 Mhz FSB (what is FSB). I don't know the make of the board, but it does have Fresno printed along one edge. - 128 Mb SDRAM PC 100, 2 DIMM sockets. I had 128 Mb added, for a total of 256. (NOTE - when the BIOS fires up it report 255 Mb's, not 256) - 40 Gb 5400 RPM Hard Drive - 48x CD-ROM Drive (LG) (original equipment) - 48 x 24 x 48 x CD-RW added (also LG) - 1.44 3.5 Floppy Drive - Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory (Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot) - AC97 Audio - Soundblaster compatible 16 bit 3-D Stereo Onboard Sound - 56K v.90 Modem PCI (Cheetah apparently) - Internet Multimedia Keyboard full size (104 key) - 2 button Mouse PS/2 - Polk Audio Stereo Speakers - PORTS: 2 USB, PS/2 Keyboard, PS/2 Mouse, 2 - 9 Pin Serial, Parallel, Joystick - JACKS: Speaker, Microphone, Audio In, Audio Out - Monitor - Not Included. I purchased a HP Pavilion mx 70. - HARD DRIVE is SAMSUNG SV4002H (Primary Master) - CD-ROM is LG Electronics, Model CRD-8485B (Secondary Master) - CD-RW is LG Electronics, Model GCE-8481B (Secondary Slave) - BIOS is PhoenixBIOS 4.0, Release 6.0, Core Version 4.06, Bios Revision 3.08 02/16/02 FYI - although the specs say 4 MB shared video memory, under the Advanced menu in the BIOS it says 1 MB. I also have a list of all my BIOS settings if that would be of any help at all. Diane - Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Ummm, first of all, please set your mailer to plain text messages. I had to retrieve yours from trash (i do scan trash for newbie messages), but that is where html mail from all the lists I am a member of goes first. We need to know more about your hardware. Since you are installing win95 it appears you may have an older computer, and there may be specific dodges or an older distro to employ to make that work. So--we need to know your memory, your processor, and any information you can find about your motherboard chipset or video card... It could be one of the older motherboards whose Basic Input-Output System(BIOS) misreports the memory map to the OS, and the latest linux kernels now trust the BIOS unless you override at install time by pressing F1 and then typing linux mem=xyM where xy is whatever memory you have less any memory shared for video less perhaps another MB which is used for ROMs and low memory when DOS/Windows boots. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO
Hello again, Gosh - the questions (and help) are coming faster than I can reply to them! OK - it never occured to me that the type of Cd (650 or 700 MB) would be an issue. Just my luck (and that'll teach me for trying to save a few bucks). I have checked the jumpers on the CD-ROM and CD-RW - they are set as per my last post with system specs. My internet connection is dial-up, and not very fast at all. Diane - Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO On Thursday 06 March 2003 08:24 am, Diane Arsenault wrote: Well, this is great! I didn't expect so many responses. ANYWAY - everybody so far has asked me to check the BIOS settings, and I have replied that my CD-ROM is indeed at the top of the boot list. Further to that, Anders (in this reply) asked if I can use the CD-ROM in Windows - the answer if YES. He also asked if my BIOS sees it. Again, YES. EXCEPT when I've got the Linux CD in the drive I'm very confused. Diane - Original Message - From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles* I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows? If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom? It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but it is the most common type) Best Regards, Anders -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Diane, I think you have an older computer with a CD that expects 650Mb CD media. Mandrake 9.0 is distributed on 700Mb (80 minute audio) CD media, and older drives often have difficulty booting from though not normally reading, the later media. If you have two drives on the same channel it MAY be that the manufacturer set them both on CABLE SELECT. In that case change the jumpers so that one is identified as master and the other as slave (the jumpers are on the back of the CD drive and CDRW drive. I have seen CABLE SELECT disable both from booting. How fast is your internet connection? There are other ways to do this Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie
Hi Adolfo, No, I wasn't sucessful. Simply cannot boot from the Cd. Incidentally, I've tried at least a dozen times to install XP - but the same thing happens, that is to say the computer reboots itself for no apparent reason - and does not finish the installation (I assume because it doesn't go back to the CD when it starts back up again). Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie Diane Were you successful installing XP following all the witchery recipe from the support guy? If so, it means that you could boot from CD, doesn't it? Have you tried following the same recipe to install Mandrake? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Oh yeah, just as a follow-up. The reason I'm able to install Windows 95 is because I can run the setup file from DOS (I'm booting right now with a Win98 boot disk). And for whatever reason the computer doesn't reboot itself during that installation. I'm suspicious now about the media type being the problem (650 MB VS 700 MB). Maybe they'll send me a new CD-ROM ... But wouldn't you think the CD-RW - which was just installed - would be able to boot ... Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:26, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, When I first tried installing XP on this thing, I called the tech support. The guy I spoke to told me that when he installs XP he disconnects everything - right down to modems, video cards, etc - before attempting the install. I figure if you have to be a Philadelphia Lawyer to install it, they can keep it! The thing from HP about disconnect all peripherals not including the monitor - That's like the message Keyboard not found. Press F1 ... Diane Were you successful installing XP following all the witchery recipe from the support guy? If so, it means that you could boot from CD, doesn't it? Have you tried following the same recipe to install Mandrake? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hi Tom, No, I haven' ttried these CD's on anohter system - Good thought. I'll be sure to try that before I pack this thing up and send 'er back! Diane - Original Message - From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thursday March 6 2003 12:09 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Diane Di, are you sure the drive jumpers are set as such. Many Windoze computers are delivered with drives, specially CD drives set to Cable select. A setting only Bill Gates understands ;) According to your statement, your cdrom should be hdc with the jumper set to master, and your cd-rw is hdd with the jumper set to slave. Altho not always absolutely neccessary, hdc should be on the last connector on the second channel (ide1) ribbon cable, and the slave, hdd should be on the middle connector. Have you tried any of your bootable CD's in other systems to see if they are in fact, bootable? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
