Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
After reading a Mac users post regarding Linux vs Mac on the desktop, I'm faced with countless questions. -- 1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it with some other statistic. Please post a reference link. I'm not too sure on what metric you'd use to compare Linux vs. Mac on the desktop. Sales? Downloads? Registered Users? 2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and as such is not necessarily linux, but very close. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSDs POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach. ( ref: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html ) Were Apple to be on the ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on linux installations and dropping the mach kernel. Apple is a hardware company. but it will never match a straight kernel. I assume you mean Monolithic kernel like linux uses when you say 'straight kernel.' The way I understand it, the Monolithic kernel is an all-in-one controlling kernel and the Mac kernel breaks every system function into bits called servers. Can someone explain in more detail how Apple has accomplished both?? 3).Their niche seems to be graphics as it always has been. How about Music production? Or the Biotech industry? There are plenty of others... Until Adobe makes a version of photoshop to run under linux, there will be a need to run Mac. I don't think Adobe's software availability solely directs Apple's future. I purchased an Apple because I wanted something that would work right out of the box. And continue to work every time I use it. Time is money and for every hour I spend fiddling with Linux when I should be working is potential money being taken out of my pocket. That and the video work that can be done quite easily on the Mac. Not knowing anything about this, I spoke with my boss, who has 20+ years in video production and editing experience. He said Avid machines are the defacto standard, and that the Mac isn't used. Furthermore, he said that the major Hollywood studios use equipment that the Mac just can't touch performance-wise. Yes, I know there are programs that run under windows, but I haven't as of yet seen anything comparable on the Linux side. I'm sure someone will immediately point out just such a program, but until it gets to be well known, the Mac will still be the platform of choice for video and graphics. Very narrow minded view. 4). I saw the writing on the wall as it were over a year ago. Please explain. What writing on the wall? OS improvements? A full BSD based system with ease of use? Thats about as strange as saying you had a Ferrari and you saw that they were going to faster race-proven engines and that's why you jumped ship and bought a Ford Mustang. There's nothing wrong with either of them but to jump ship because one is improving is asanine. That's part of the reason for jumping ship on Mac and trying my hand at Linux. Don't get me wrong, I don't understand. Please explain. -- LeaAnne Kolp ~Registerd Linux User: 288129 ~Homepage: http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com ~Orbiters: http://orbiters.funurl.com ~Windows Free for 4 Months From: Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:51 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop? On Tuesday 24 June 2003 05:51 am, JoeHill wrote: http://slate.msn.com/id/2084727/ -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. + Quote of the day from Slashdot: + God forbid the FBI go after dangerous criminals ... + I feel much safer with pot smokers and warez + kiddies behind bars. Being a former Mac person myself. I have several thoughts on this. 1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it with some other statistic. 2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and as such is not necessarily linux, but very close. Were Apple to be on the ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on linux installations and dropping the mach kernel. After all, even they admit that its a little slower running applications and for good reason. The mach kernel while very elegant has one flaw which makes it slower. That flaw is the very thing that makes it good, its modularity. It can be tweaked and tuned to the point where its close, but it will never match a straight kernel. 3). Apple never did intend to supplant MS. In fact, when Steve Jobs took over he even stated that their intention was NOT to go
[newbie] Dual Booting MDK9.1 and MDK9.1
Hi all, I need some help. I'm new to linux, and my linux machine is my main computer. The problem I have is, I want to install 2 versions of Mandrake 9.1 on my 30G hd. I'm tired of trying to learn linux on my main machine and loosing all my programs and email :( So I got the bright idea of dual booting it. Can someone help me on how to do this? I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance! -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tux pics...
Ron, I would really like to have those also :) Tux is so adorable! :) Thanks! -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: DarkForce! Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:20:54 -0400 To: Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Tux pics... In another thread (I think it was Femme!) posted some Tux gaming pics 'n stuff. I found a couple I had lying around the old HD, if anyone wants me to send them offlist. Of course, many of you probably already have these. One is from Penguin Computing (my fav!) One is Tux with a joystick One is Tux with a keyboard Just a thought... :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gcc-3.3.tar.bz2
lb, In order to unzip it, you have to use: bunzip2 gcc-3.3.tar.bz2 Then type in: tar -xvf gcc-3.3.tar and that will open it up for you to configure it :) Hope that helps! -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:31:20 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] gcc-3.3.tar.bz2 Hi ; I downladed this (gcc-3.3.tar.bz2) from a mirror site in minneapolis. But how do i access it? I want to have c, c++, compilers to compile programs. I've tried tar, gzip, gunzip, etc, nothing seems to work. It's on my desktop. Thanx for your help again. Ib Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies. - Nietzsche Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!!
Does anyone know why download.com stopped having downloads for linux? Or is it a M$ thing where they threatened them and therefore linux went out the door? -- LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! My Personal Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com My Cartoon Orbit Fan Page http://orbiters.funurl.com From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Kuhn Media Australia Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 Jun 2003 08:47:10 +1000 To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] NOTICE: CNet no longer support LINUX download !!! Here's a mistake in the making! http://download.com.com/1200-2002-997312.html -- Wed Jun 11 08:45:00 EST 2003 08:45:00 up 3 days, 18:36, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.40, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Man's unique agony as a species consists in his perpetual conflict between the desire to stand out and the need to blend in. -- Sydney J. Harris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD playing fits!
Jason, I had the same problem with Xine when I installed in on my 9.0 machine. I found that I had the wrong version of Xine and Xine libs for it to work properly. After trial and error and re-installing MDK 9 about 10 times, I finally got Xine working properly without any issues :) Check out my site for the Xine Tutorial on how to get it working, it can't hurt to try it again with an older version. http://www12.brinkster.com/cowgirlk/tdesk.asp Hope that helps some. The only thing that I'm really good at is re-installing MDK ;-) After breaking my machine so many times because I got curious what it would do without certain things, I learned my lesson :) LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! http://orbiters.funurl.com Cartoon Orbit Fan Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com Personal Site From: Jason Guidry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 20:17:09 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] DVD playing fits! Trying to play a dvd from the library on 9.1 with vlc and get the picture but no sound. after fiddling with the sound through the preferences menu, still no go. Xine: crashes. Mplayer: no audio every other one: won't even start with ogle I get the following from the term: snip libdvdread: Elapsed time 3 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: _new stream bf, 0 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: _new stream e0, 0 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_mpeg_vs with pid 9963 Debug[ogle_mpeg_vs]: Using MMX accelerated media functions ## video_stream:req cap Debug[ogle_ctrl]: _new stream bd, 80 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_audio with pid 9964 video_dec: shmid: 71893014 video_dec: data_buf shmid: 71827476 ## video_stream:got cap and stream vs: get ouput buffer Debug[ogle_ctrl]: got capability video_out horizontal_size: 720, vertical_size: 480 padded_width: 720, padded_height: 480 frame rate: 3/1001 (29.97) *vs: offset not valid decode: B-frame before forward ref frame *vs: offset not valid No accelerated IMDCT transform found Debug[ogle_audio]: decode_a52: found sync Note[ogle_audio]: Using audio driver 'alsa' [ogle_alsa]: Opening device: default decode: B-frame before forward ref frame *vs: offset not valid ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:866:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy [ogle_alsa]: error while opening alsa. : Device or resource busy FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the alsa audio driver at default Debug[ogle_ctrl]: child: 9964 exited with 1 I've installed everything remotely related to DVDs. any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD playing fits!
Jason, I'm sorry about not having the links up yet. Go to the page now, all the links are up and working :) Hope that helps. LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! http://orbiters.funurl.com Cartoon Orbit Fan Site http://cowgirlk.shorturl.com Personal Site From: Jason Guidry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 11:21:46 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DVD playing fits! LeaAnne Kolp wrote: Check out my site for the Xine Tutorial on how to get it working, it can't hurt to try it again with an older version. Tutorial looks good, but where do they have the versions of Xine that you refer to? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Xine Tutorials
Hi all, I've been away for awhile but I wanted to tell ya that the Linux Tutorials are back up on my site if you need help with playing DVDs in Xine or help setting up PINE. More will be added, but those are all I have at the moment. Anyway, here's the link: http://www12.brinkster.com/cowgirlk/tdesk.asp -- Keep Smilin'!! LeaAnne Kolp Don't forget to check out my sites! http://orbiters.funurl.com Cartoon Orbit Fan Site http://www12.brinkster.com/cowgirlk Personal Site Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD movies
I'm using Xine with encrypted dvds. You can get the version of decoder software and the version of Xine it works with at my site. http://www12.brinkster.com/cowgirlk/xine.htm Everything should work fine after that :) Good Luck! -- LeaAnne Kolp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #288129 On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:14 pm, Metamorphysical wrote: I've looked on some of the RPM sites for dvd patches and such but maybe I just can't do it. I'm trying to play dvd's and just won't do it. I know most of them are encrypted and that's why, but thought maybe there was something out there I could use with xine or maybe another completely different program. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kmail and any others?
On Saturday 22 February 2003 11:30 pm, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: You should try Evolution by Ximini. I had Evolution running on mine and it was better than outlook. I wanted something different so I switched to KMail :) Welcome to Linux! :) LeaAnne Hello.. I am another newbie on Linux system and I am running Markdrake 9.0 and I am really enjoying learning something new. I am currently using KMail and I am wondering if there is any other HTML mail client that I can use? that I am not aware of, Any advise would help! N.B. some of my HTML mail has picture misisng that it would normally show up on OUTLOOK Express. Thanks! YPK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another one...
On Sunday 23 February 2003 01:50 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: From personal experience Galeon works best with Java. Unfortunately, I can't get the newest version of Java to work. I can, however, get Java 1.3 to work without a problem :) Flash 6 REALLY makes a difference on flash sites also. :) If you have any problems, lemme know. I'll try to help, but I've only been on Linux Mandrake 9.0 for about 4 months :) LeaAnne~ I am now enjoying the Evolution program and it seems to be working the way I like.. Now, What about the web browses. There are too many of them and I can't seems to get one of them to work with java when i am on a java site.. Thanks! YPK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
