After reading a Mac users post regarding Linux vs Mac on the desktop, I'm
faced with 
countless questions.

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"1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it
with
some other statistic."

Please post a reference link. I'm not too sure on what metric you'd use to
compare Linux 
vs. Mac on the desktop. Sales? Downloads? Registered Users?

2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and
as such is not necessarily linux, but very close.

"Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3,
combining BSD’s POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and
real-time 
performance of Mach."

( ref: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/darwin.html )

"Were Apple to be on the
ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well
capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on
linux installations and dropping the mach kernel."

Apple is a hardware company.

"but it will never match a straight kernel."

I assume you mean Monolithic kernel like linux uses when you say 'straight
kernel.' The 
way I understand it, the Monolithic kernel is an all-in-one controlling
kernel and the Mac 
kernel breaks every system function into bits called "servers."

Can someone explain in more detail how Apple has accomplished both??

"3).Their niche seems to be graphics as it always has been."

How about Music production? Or the Biotech industry? There are plenty of
others...

"Until Adobe makes a version of photoshop to run under linux, there will be
a
need to run Mac."

I don't think Adobe's software availability solely directs Apple's future. I
purchased an 
Apple because I wanted something that would work right out of the box. And
continue to 
work every time I use it. Time is money and for every hour I spend fiddling
with Linux 
when I should be working is potential money being taken out of my pocket.

"That and the video work that can be done quite easily on the Mac."

Not knowing anything about this, I spoke with my boss, who has 20+ years in
video 
production and editing experience. He said "Avid" machines are the defacto
standard, 
and that the Mac isn't used. Furthermore, he said that the major Hollywood
studios use 
equipment that the Mac just can't touch performance-wise.

"Yes, I know there are programs that run under windows, but I haven't as
of yet seen anything comparable on the Linux side. I'm sure someone will
immediately point out just such a program, but until it gets to be well
known, the Mac will still be the platform of choice for video and graphics."

Very narrow minded view.

4). I saw the writing on the wall as it were over a year ago.

Please explain. What writing on the wall? OS improvements? A full BSD based
system 
with ease of use? Thats about as strange as saying you had a Ferrari and you
saw that 
they were going to faster race-proven engines and that's why you jumped ship
and 
bought a Ford Mustang. There's nothing wrong with either of them but to
"jump ship" 
because one is improving is asanine.

"That's part of the reason for jumping ship on Mac and trying my hand at
Linux. Don't get 
me wrong,"

I don't understand. Please explain.

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LeaAnne Kolp
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> From: Thomas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:51 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
> 
> On Tuesday 24 June 2003 05:51 am, JoeHill wrote:
>> 
>> http://slate.msn.com/id/2084727/
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>> 
> 
> Being a former Mac person myself. I have several thoughts on this.
> 
> 1). I thought Linux had passed it already, but perhaps I'm confusing it with
> some other statistic.
> 
> 2). OSX is based on the mach kernal, a modular derivitive created by CMU and
> as such is not necessarily linux, but very close. Were Apple to be on the
> ball enough (and there's presedence to prove otherwise) they could very well
> capitalize on the linux movement by making their desktop envrionment run on
> linux installations and dropping the mach kernel. After all, even they admit
> that its a little slower running applications and for good reason. The mach
> kernel while very elegant has one flaw which makes it slower. That flaw is
> the very thing that makes it good, its modularity. It can be tweaked and
> tuned to the point where its close, but it will never match a straight
> kernel.
> 
> 3). Apple never did intend to supplant MS. In fact, when Steve Jobs took over
> he even stated that their intention was NOT to go after MS. Rather it was to
> find their own niche. Their niche seems to be graphics as it always has been.
> Until Adobe makes a version of photoshop to run under linux, there will be a
> need to run Mac. That and the video work that can be done quite easily on the
> Mac. Yes, I know there are programs that run under windows, but I haven't as
> of yet seen anything comparable on the Linux side. I'm sure someone will
> immediately point out just such a program, but until it gets to be well
> known, the Mac will still be the platform of choice for video and graphics.
> 
> 4). I saw the writing on the wall as it were over a year ago. That's part of
> the reason for jumping ship on Mac and trying my hand at Linux. Don't get me
> wrong, I love the Mac still. If I could afford it I'd be one of those buying
> a brand new G5. In fact, these days if I could afford it, I'd buy a G5 and
> then make it dual boot with ML 9.1 PPC the other OS on it.
> 
> That's just my view as a Mac person.
> 
> Tom Williams
> 
> 
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