Re: [newbie] RE: Windows can't be written in VB
Paul wrote: Not to whine or bitch, but... isn't it amazing how much Microsoft goes around on the Mandrake list lately? You can't escape from it, eh? ;-) (grin) Paul -- God must love crazy people. He made so many of them! http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30 we are educating ourselves as to our past mistakes :)
Re: [newbie] RE: Windows can't be written in VB
Mark Weaver wrote: No...No...no...you're all wrong. Windows is written in pig latin. It's the only thing that could possibly explain its terribly slow performance, frequent lockups and crashes, and of course who could forget the beloved "blue screen of death" which arrives nanoseconds before you actually get your finger on the CTRL-S keys to save your document. damn the torpedos man and storm the Gates mansion. Hang the silly bugger from his VisualBasic scribbling finger tips till he resites the anti-trust laws backwards in Jappanese! -- Mark i agree mark, i agree :) / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 pablito had this to say! windows is written in assembly language?? Jeez, if it is, why does it take up so much space? I thought it was written in compiled batch language. : No, Windows isn't written in VB. Windows is written in assembly language. :
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop problems Solved
Dennis Myers wrote: Just wanted to let the list know that I finally have the full kde desktop. I decided that there must be something wrong with my home burned disks and went online and downloaded the kdebase, kdeadmin, kdesupport and a bunch of other libc files that weren't wanting to load properly from rpmdrake. Voila! a desktop with icons and the big K. Now I am impressed and will quite badmouthing the 7.2 release. It looks pretty good so far. Time will tell, but it looks like I will be off to buy the boxed set. Dennis M. registered linux user #180842 hasta la vista i cant wait for 7.3 already :)
Re: [newbie] Reinstall
Riker wrote: Hello, again! I really screwed something up on my wife's Linux box (yes, she loves Linux and now she hates me!) and need to reinstall. It's a duel boot system with Win ME. If I do a fresh install of Linux, will it still see WinME? And if not, how do I go about keeping ME recognized on boot up? Thanks a million, Riker format your drive under dos. install linux forget windoes thats really good advice u know :)
Re: [newbie] V7.2 questions!
Robin Regennitter wrote: On Saturday 02 December 2000 12:59 am, you wrote: I have an i810 machine and it works just fine for me with my Linux box. XFree86 4.0.1 does support i810 with acceleration as it produced the 24bit color versus 8bit on XFree 3.3.6. I was surprised that the 3D games were playing nice and fast. however, after playing it few times, the games became super slow. I stop playing the games on Linux. I'm sure that the next version of XFree86 bug for i810 will be fix. There is an upgrade i810 driver for windows at the intel site. Rob I have an i810e and I can tell you that if its at all like the i810 you have no problem. The 810 chipset really is slow. There so called acceleretion on my windows box is actually slower than software rendering! On the plus side the 810 chipset has a built in video out. But you cant use it without drivers and linus hasn't got them. - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 7:15 PM Subject: [newbie] V7.2 questions! A friend of mine installed the download version of 7.2 on his Pentium machine with 64 megs of RAM and a i810 video setup. (its a 667mhz machine). Anyways, he has an external modem and no matter what we do, it does not show up under hardware configuration, even though its working fine. Also, I thought hardware acceleration was automatic with certain card/chipsets under 7.2. (including the i810). However, any games we play are dead slow... ;-( Any ideas? Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord is that the way u can tell by the 24 or 32 bit color. i just learned something if this is true, well is it ? \/
Re: [newbie] Linux v Windows
Mr Monster wrote: Right, Ive been reading the mails about the pros and cons of Linux/Windows... Im running Mandrake 7.2 now, with not so much as a hiccup, everything is doing what it should, when it should - just the way i like it, and the way i suspect most other folks do too. I have one little problem.. I have a Primax USB scanner, and on visiting their website - have discovered they dont support linux drivers for their hardware, which is a little dissapointing to say the least... So I went searching, and found another site...probably run by a couple of guys in their own time, and unpaid, who are writing source and trying their best to get drivers for Primax scanners under Linux - These guys deserve a big jug of beer!!! and if they dont like beer a big glass of juice :) The Point and now a drum roll Linux will never win its way into peoples homes until manufacturers decide to start porting their code to linux, so us people at home can use our digicams, scanners etc... just as easy as ever! (without even so much as a chmod etc) i would ag4ee. for linux to really take off there must be some sort of install shield for it. without it linux will never dominiate the world. i cant believe hasnt thought of it before. :) I dunno if this means anything, or indeed if it makes sensebut dont all shout at me at once :-) And just in case you are all wondering ... yep I had to use M$ to scan my pics tonight :( ok, there are a few areas where linux is still catching up. there are a few areas in which linux is ahead. scanners unfortunately for u are one of the behind places Graham Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.btinternet.com/~kerr.monster Reg. User 153258
Re: [newbie] Want something better for resume
Vic wrote: Klyx don't work, tex is too hard I would like something easier if you please Thank you have u tried k-word yet ?
Re: [newbie] Might be OTResume software
Vic wrote: Sorry about the ot message, Does anyone know of a decent software package that one can write a resume on? I have star office 5 so that might work, except I have not seen how to cause it to make a resume, or else I am asleep. Just wondering. Oh and it must be able to print to an old HP Deskjet no numbers or anything, just HP Deskjet it is an old black and white inkjet printer. Thanks if u have mandrake 7.2 use k-word, it goes with k-everything else. if u dont have 7.2 i would suggest u get it :)
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Mark Johnson wrote: -Original Message- From: Benjamin Sher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Bottom line: Until Linux, which is rich in thousands of applications, has an equally vast and varied collection of CONSUMER applications of every sort, it won't quite be ready for prime time. And this won't happen till Linux is much more popular. The old chicken and egg problem: no consumer applications until there is a consumer market for Linux big enough to justify it, and no consumer market until there are applications. And this won't happen until it's easy enough for my mom, wife, and brother to use and until the elite hacker attitude subsides. i cant imagine the elite hacker attitude ever subsiding. there will always be a place inlinux for hackers. yep, they have those little things called terminals . they dont need shells or kde's or gnomes. im starting to think they dont even need operating systems of any kind. but... linux is moving to include the rest of us that dont want to be programmers or hackers or whatever. mandrake 7.2 is very easy to use. i bet even your mom could run it. Linux is still a paradise for coders not users.. linux will always be a paradise for coders. it it more and more a paradise for users too. . However, most linux users don't care about running Quicken and such, for linux to win they must pull users off of Windows and onto linux (these are the only converts, you won't get a lot of MAC users to give up their OS). The intrinsic road block of linux is the "cult" personality, like MAC and BSD, us folks are generally emotionally tied to the OS. Most windows users couldn't give a flying flip that they are using Windows they just want integrated office products and the facility offered by those products (and to be able to run their games). i would agree and disagree. i know many people who wouldnt even think of leaving windoes. i know of some that use it because its because what most other people use. most people seem to be unaware of just dont care that windoes would destroy them as quickly as any one else to make a profit. its like they are brainless. that of course is my opinion. with the relase of kernal 2.4 i believe linux kernal stands superior to microsofts. time will tell They don't want to be system administrators, just like I don't want to be a car mechanic. I want my car to work when I drive it off the lot. I will never upgrade the stereo or engine or interior, i'm just not interested in doing that. But this isn't a morally depraved behavior, it's just the way it is. Meanwhile, Linux as an OS, with its great and beautiful and configurable new graphical KDE and Gnome desktops The thing is most ordinary users don't care what the OS is they care about the interface and how easy it is to get their job done and how easy it is to integrate their favorite apps. I don't think most folks even mess with their Windows settings. (Just showing my wife the "Send To" mechanism in Explorer is like pulling teeth!) Having said that, may the gods be praised for the efforts of the KDE and Gnome folks but there is still much road to build. The thing that should strike fear into the marrow of our bones is that if MS decided to build a flavor of Linux I think it would be a reasonable assumption that people like my mom and brother would ditch the Windows environment and adopt the linux platform because they don't care out the OS, tell them about micosofts behavior to other companies. and if they dont care what os they are using why would they care if they had linux. this doesnt make any sense to me. i would think that many people in the future would want linux just because its practically free and get updated on such a regular basis and because there are people that want to help them with it. i would agree that some people just wouldnt care no matter what. they care about the usabilty of the products and the availablity of the products. We laugh about the MS Linux website parody, but really, if MS ever decided to distribute a flavor of linux I believe they would give Mandrake, SuSE, RedHat, and etc. a very hard run for their money. if they did that, who would buy it. the people that are happey with windoes woundt want it and the linux community wouldnt buy it. why not. because we know if they did that it would possibly lead to real linux being ruined. i would never purchase microsoft linux. yuck. People would actually be willing to give their hard earned money for this new very stable linux distrbution version of "Windows", very few of us have probably given a dime to Mandrake for all their hard work. If MFC, VB, and COM was made available for linux you can be sure that applications would start to appear like crazy. i believe we will see microsoft software for linux in the future. where is gates
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Anthony wrote: 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer As in use Kmail to send email from Konquerer? Mine is set up like that from installation. 2. what is magellan I'm pretty sure that it is the next generation of Kmail, and is supposed to be like Outlook for Linux. Basically it's a really good mail client that is still in extreme beta, if it is even still being worked on. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit. thanks
Re: [newbie] 2 questions
Mark Weaver wrote: Patrick, If I remember correctly Magellan was/is a lightweight Konquerer type browser based on the Mozilla "gecko" rendering engine. I'm not sure if it ever really got out of the beta stage. For a while there was a lot of talk about it, but then as the release of mandrake 7.2 came closer and closer much of the browser talk shifted towards Konquerer. I've tried it and it is lightweight, but very feature limited and somewhat unstable after a short time running. As far as combining kmail with Konquerer all I can say is...why? Why would you want to? One is for browsing the net and the other is for reading/sending email and corresponding with the newsgroups. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 patrick had this to say! i was just wanting to dock the icon in konquer. i was also just curious about majellan i am sticking with Konquerer by all means. its the best and getting better i have 2 questions. 1. is it possible to combine kmail into konquerer and 2. what is magellan
Re: [newbie] Anti-Microsoft Sentiment
Dale Kosan wrote: Well,lets get this war going! I come from a Windoze 98,NT 4.0,2000 background,I love Linux,more stable than the above,but.When a company sells software as complete and it is beta.I think it is a true shame that Mandrake has let the other company make them look bad.I still use Windows at home for some functions,when is the last time you upgraded your cd burners firmware in Linux?I have yet to see it done.That is about the only time I have booted to Windows in the last three months at home.At work my workstation is running 98,NT Server 4.0,Windows 2000 Server and Mandrake 7.2, every os works fine and have never had any trouble doing this.I think instead of bashing Microsoft we should all stick together and help each other every chance we get.I was and still consider myself a newbie,but allot of the man pages make more sense now than they did then,it just has to progress i think we do help each other. i have been helped a lot by the other newbies, and as far as windoes bashing. what the heck, gates gots lots of money. i dont think he minds. and as far as mandrake, well i dont think they would release like they just did again. do u :)
Re: [newbie] Video Cards
"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: What do you guys think of G-force Video Cards? What do you think the best Video card for a Linux box is? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 i have a guillemot proher ddr geforce. i love it. linux finally loads my gforce driver and it works with my monitors, we dont have even 1.0 drivers yet, but it works great anyway for me at least :)
Re: [newbie] Linux and TFT screens
Spoonman wrote: Since I didn't really get a reply to my rather broad question last time, let me word it this way: Should a laptop TFT be considered a LCD display or VGA/SVGA? Thanks, Mark i hope someone helps u. i dont know