Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2005-03-13 Thread Derek Jennings
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:53, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 Some time ago I got this working OK and only recently discovered that
 the /etc/hosts file has been re-written ~ possible still more stuff left
 over from the corruption of my .ICEauthority.

 Here's what I posted to assist someone at the time in regards to OOo
 opening slowly:

 Quote:

 mine reads:

  127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
  127.0.0.1   Snapafun.localdomainlocalhost
  127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conSnapafun
  127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conlocalhost

 Now that's somewhat overkill and needs a clean up but it works.

 End Quote:

 Since this time I have installed and have running at present ADSL via
 eth0. [ Dynamic with my ISP ]

 I seem to recall that another entry was required here for that ~ anyone
 know what that is supposed to be ?

 Hopefully this exercise will speed my system up to what it was before
 the .ICEauthority corruption.

/etc/hosts has nothing to do with .ICEauthority

You do not need to add anything when you go to ADSL

The /etc/hosts file is simply a list to match host names to IP addresses.
You did not need 4 separate lines, you could have just put
127.0.0.1 alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5   and so on...

When you refer to a host name in for example a browser url, your computer will 
check to see if it is the hosts table before it bothers to ask a DNS server 
what the IP address of that host is.

So if you try to browse to http://www.snapafun.con  then your computer will 
immediately translate that as http://127.0.0.1

Thats all the /etc/hosts file does.
You would most commonly use the hosts table to identify the other computers in 
a small local network with static addressing.

derek

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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2005-03-13 Thread SnapafunFrank
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Sunday 13 March 2005 05:53, SnapafunFrank wrote:
 

Some time ago I got this working OK and only recently discovered that
the /etc/hosts file has been re-written ~ possible still more stuff left
over from the corruption of my .ICEauthority.
Here's what I posted to assist someone at the time in regards to OOo
opening slowly:
Quote:
mine reads:
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.0.1   Snapafun.localdomainlocalhost
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conSnapafun
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conlocalhost
Now that's somewhat overkill and needs a clean up but it works.
End Quote:
Since this time I have installed and have running at present ADSL via
eth0. [ Dynamic with my ISP ]
I seem to recall that another entry was required here for that ~ anyone
know what that is supposed to be ?
Hopefully this exercise will speed my system up to what it was before
the .ICEauthority corruption.
   

/etc/hosts has nothing to do with .ICEauthority
You do not need to add anything when you go to ADSL
The /etc/hosts file is simply a list to match host names to IP addresses.
You did not need 4 separate lines, you could have just put
127.0.0.1 alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5   and so on...
When you refer to a host name in for example a browser url, your computer will 
check to see if it is the hosts table before it bothers to ask a DNS server 
what the IP address of that host is.

So if you try to browse to http://www.snapafun.con  then your computer will 
immediately translate that as http://127.0.0.1

Thats all the /etc/hosts file does.
You would most commonly use the hosts table to identify the other computers in 
a small local network with static addressing.

derek
 

Thanks derek ~ in a nutshell and well understood ~ really simple really 
when it's explained like this ~ greatly appreciated.

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[newbie] /etc/hosts

2005-03-12 Thread SnapafunFrank
Some time ago I got this working OK and only recently discovered that 
the /etc/hosts file has been re-written ~ possible still more stuff left 
over from the corruption of my .ICEauthority.

Here's what I posted to assist someone at the time in regards to OOo 
opening slowly:

Quote:
mine reads:
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.0.1   Snapafun.localdomainlocalhost
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conSnapafun
127.0.0.1   www.snapafun.conlocalhost
Now that's somewhat overkill and needs a clean up but it works.
End Quote:
Since this time I have installed and have running at present ADSL via 
eth0. [ Dynamic with my ISP ]

I seem to recall that another entry was required here for that ~ anyone 
know what that is supposed to be ?

Hopefully this exercise will speed my system up to what it was before 
the .ICEauthority corruption.

--
Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always!
Regards
SnapafunFrank
Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve.
Registered Linux User # 324213 



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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-24 Thread Bo Rosén

tor 2002-01-24 klockan 08.16 skrev Brian Parish:
 
 I don't use cable access (i wish!) but from what I have read (on this

I went from a 14.4 modem (my 56k one got toasted) to cable a couple of
years ago. It was a sweet.

 
 If everything works with this hostname set and you are in fact using
 DHCP to get your address, you could look at /etc/sysconfig/network
 In here is a line (probably) which reads DHCP_HOSTNAME=xyz

It's all there.
I wonder if this is the problem. Do I have this backwards, I call my
system delirium, that is localhost = delirium and this name is what
shows up for DHCP_HOSTNAME. Do both my loopback and eth0 get the same
name? So, when I replace localhost in /etc/hosts for delirium there is a
conflict that gets resolved by resetting that entry?

Network stuff always confuses me.

Thanks,
Bo




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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-24 Thread Brian Parish

Maybe it's time to contact your cable provider and ask them how you
should be set up.  I'm sure that in a civilised place like Sveria, there
should be inga probleme with asking support for linux configs.

I sympathise with the confusion - it's probably apparent that I suffer
from the same symptoms.

lycka till
Brian

On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 19:28, Bo Rosén wrote:
 tor 2002-01-24 klockan 08.16 skrev Brian Parish:
  
  I don't use cable access (i wish!) but from what I have read (on this
 
 I went from a 14.4 modem (my 56k one got toasted) to cable a couple of
 years ago. It was a sweet.
 
  
  If everything works with this hostname set and you are in fact using
  DHCP to get your address, you could look at /etc/sysconfig/network
  In here is a line (probably) which reads DHCP_HOSTNAME=xyz
 
 It's all there.
 I wonder if this is the problem. Do I have this backwards, I call my
 system delirium, that is localhost = delirium and this name is what
 shows up for DHCP_HOSTNAME. Do both my loopback and eth0 get the same
 name? So, when I replace localhost in /etc/hosts for delirium there is a
 conflict that gets resolved by resetting that entry?
 
 Network stuff always confuses me.
 
 Thanks,
   Bo
 
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-24 Thread Bo Rosén

tor 2002-01-24 klockan 10.10 skrev Brian Parish:

 should be set up.  I'm sure that in a civilised place like Sveria, there
 should be inga probleme with asking support for linux configs.

Sverige not Sveria :-)
Yes, if I can't figure this out I'll talk to them. They have great
support actually. Funny thing is I had no probel with Red Hat, no shadow
on Mandrake, I'm just confused.

 lycka till

Tack!
And thanks for trying,

Ciao,
Bo






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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-23 Thread Randy Kramer

Bo Rosén wrote:
 I have a strange problem with my host name.
 When I installed 8.1 the other day I specified my host name, and it
 shows up in the Mandrake controll center, netconf etc.
 It does not show up in /etc/hosts (only the usual localhost...). When I
 log into Gnome it complains that it can't find the interent address for
 my system and that this could be solved by entering the host name in
 /etc/hosts. I do so (and have done so previously in Red Hat), but the
 next time I start the computer, mandrake resets /etc/hosts?
 Why, and what do I do?

Are you using DHCP?  (I might have the acronym wrong, letters
interchanged or whatever.)

I recall seeing somewhere that if you use DHCP, things like host name
may get reset every time DHCP runs (like when your machine boots up). 
As I understood the correction, you need to set the host name and
similar things (DNS server addresses) in the DHCP server.

Just sort of a shot in the dark.

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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-23 Thread Bo Rosén

ons 2002-01-23 klockan 23.39 skrev Randy Kramer:

Hi,
 
 Are you using DHCP?  (I might have the acronym wrong, letters
 interchanged or whatever.)

The server you mean? No, I'm not supposed to anyway and it doesn't show
up under services and daemons in the Control Center, unless it has some
strange name.

One thing though. I have a internet accsess via cable modem, which works
fine, but the Network and Internet bit in CC shows me as having an
Internet interface and a lan. I only have one network adaptor in the
machine.
Thanks,
Bo Rosén
 
 I recall seeing somewhere that if you use DHCP, things like host name
 may get reset every time DHCP runs (like when your machine boots up). 
 As I understood the correction, you need to set the host name and
 similar things (DNS server addresses) in the DHCP server.





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Re: [newbie] /etc/hosts

2002-01-23 Thread Brian Parish

Bo,

I don't use cable access (i wish!) but from what I have read (on this
list mostly) using cable normally means that you would be getting an IP
address via DHCP from your cable provider each time you boot.  If this
is the case, you will get different IP addresses potentially each time,
so anything written for a given IP address in hosts would become
invalid.

Try the following:

In a console window type: hostname without the quotes.  This will tell
you what your hostname is.  If it's not set, you can set it by saying:
hostname xyz where xyz the name you want.

If everything works with this hostname set and you are in fact using
DHCP to get your address, you could look at /etc/sysconfig/network
In here is a line (probably) which reads DHCP_HOSTNAME=xyz

If it's not there, or there is no hostname specified, you could try
adding it there.  I think this is where it's picked up from when DHCP
issues the address.

Let us know how you go.

cheers
Brian

On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 17:41, Bo Rosén wrote:
 ons 2002-01-23 klockan 23.39 skrev Randy Kramer:
 
 Hi,
  
  Are you using DHCP?  (I might have the acronym wrong, letters
  interchanged or whatever.)
 
 The server you mean? No, I'm not supposed to anyway and it doesn't show
 up under services and daemons in the Control Center, unless it has some
 strange name.
 
 One thing though. I have a internet accsess via cable modem, which works
 fine, but the Network and Internet bit in CC shows me as having an
 Internet interface and a lan. I only have one network adaptor in the
 machine.
 Thanks,
   Bo Rosén
  
  I recall seeing somewhere that if you use DHCP, things like host name
  may get reset every time DHCP runs (like when your machine boots up). 
  As I understood the correction, you need to set the host name and
  similar things (DNS server addresses) in the DHCP server.
 
 
 
 
 

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