Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Monday 20 September 2004 09:04 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 07:05 pm, Scott Mazur wrote: The ISOs could be distributed to many more reliable mirrors where highband width is a planned feature easily accomodated. and extremely expensive. Yes, prohibitively so. Fact is, for those that don't have highspeed connections or don't wanna fool with the torrents Websites like cheapbytes and others do, and they're some of the first to grab the CD's. EG, Cheapbytes has 10.1 CE 5 CD sets available right now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On September 18, 2004 15:18, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 14:02, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:57 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I haven't tried bittorrent because I'v seen too many complaints like yours. Somehow its not ready for prime time. The problem with bt is just the number of others that have it running on the same torrent. It kind of works opposite to regular downloading. With a regular d/l, where everyone is hitting the same server, the more users, the slower it gets. But with bt, the more users the faster it gets. I got pretty good speed out of bt for 10.1C, but maybe it was just my timing. I left it running for a while to help out others who were downloading, but I needed the disk space, so I had to burn them and delete them. When I'm done some repartitioning, I'll put them back and restart bt. If everyone with a high speed connection leaves their bt running even after the d/l is finished, it will help out others, at a modest cost in bandwidth consumed. Even if you don't plan to use 10.1C immediately, if you have the bandwidth and the disk space, d/w with bt, and you'll help out others. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:15:53 -0600, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote On September 18, 2004 15:18, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 14:02, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:57 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I haven't tried bittorrent because I'v seen too many complaints like yours. Somehow its not ready for prime time. The problem with bt is just the number of others that have it running on the same torrent. It kind of works opposite to regular downloading. With a regular d/l, where everyone is hitting the same server, the more users, the slower it gets. But with bt, the more users the faster it gets. I got pretty good speed out of bt for 10.1C, but maybe it was just my timing. I left it running for a while to help out others who were downloading, but I needed the disk space, so I had to burn them and delete them. When I'm done some repartitioning, I'll put them back and restart bt. If everyone with a high speed connection leaves their bt running even after the d/l is finished, it will help out others, at a modest cost in bandwidth consumed. Even if you don't plan to use 10.1C immediately, if you have the bandwidth and the disk space, d/w with bt, and you'll help out others. Or... The ISOs could be distributed to many more reliable mirrors where highband width is a planned feature easily accomodated. Then we wouldn't have to all be pointed at the same mirror fighting for access or waiting on 30 dial-up bt users with an expected completion time of 300 hrs. Let the mirrors use bt to update, I believe that would suit their model best. As for the rest of us, the best case bt scenario is exactly equal to a good mirror, where as the worst case is simply laughable. I don't see that as progress, just an excuse for mirrors to shrug their responsibility. What Mandrake really needs is a centrally managed mirror list that ACTIVELY checks the status of other mirrors, listing only those that are up and properly organized. It should be a no brainer to register your mirror with Mandrake and likewise have your mirror checked for consistency automatically to be listed. Heck, do away with the whole urpmi/easyurpmi media snafu all together and dynamically pick the mirror with the least overload for every update. That would easily free up the mirrors of the world and redistribute plenty of bandwidth. Of course, that's just my opinion (slow day)... Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Monday 20 September 2004 07:05 pm, Scott Mazur wrote: The ISOs could be distributed to many more reliable mirrors where highband width is a planned feature easily accomodated. and extremely expensive. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:57 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:02:12 -0500 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I don't have a lot of experience with BT, but could it be merely that there are not many 'sources' yet, ie. people who have already downloaded the files and are sharing them out? Once more people download more of the files and continue to share, the speed should pick up, no? -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 15:15:22 up 45 days, 15:01, 6 users, load average: 1.29, 1.48, 1.35 +++ The US is our trading partner, our neighbour, our ally and our friend... and sometimes we'd like to give them such a smack! -- Rick Mercer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:20 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:02:12 -0500 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I don't have a lot of experience with BT, but could it be merely that there are not many 'sources' yet, ie. people who have already downloaded the files and are sharing them out? Once more people download more of the files and continue to share, the speed should pick up, no? No, the problem was only with CD1-3. CD's 4 5 download at full speed. The problem with 1-3 was at the Club server. It was fixed about 13:00 UTC today (Saturday). I'll keep uploadin 1,2,3,4,5 for about 8 days til I need to go out of town. Torrents depend on those who have succesful d/l's to keep uploadin. BTW, check out KDE3.3 on CD5 ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Saturday 18 September 2004 14:02, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:57 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I haven't tried bittorrent because I'v seen too many complaints like yours. Somehow its not ready for prime time. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
