Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
In a message dated 8/22/2002 2:57:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: probably a bad download, or a bad CD burn. try downloading and burning your CD again. those 'failed' packages are sign of big trouble. it shouldn't happen. (oh BTW during the installation, make sure you tell the installer to start X when you reboot ) Damian Hey, what do u mean by telling the installer to startx when i reboot... I didnt see that option. I used advanced setup tooo... Also do you know good download mirror where i could download CD-1, and CD-2 (os, and extras cd) for linux mandrake. I went to: www.linuxiso.org and i downloaded from there, but it seems to be a bad download. Mandrakes site only give 1 file... i dont see all 3.
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 4:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. I > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > while installing the packages. Installation went through fine, and the > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and linux > 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that after > installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and stuff... > Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me go into > the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like desktop. > It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was the > console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC help > channel. It said that there was an error... and it didnt run startx. It > said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or something. Im not > sure whether this is happening because of the installation package errors > or something. Anyways I went back to irc help channel, and i stated this > problem. They told me that linux would boot into the desktop if my video > was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video card, and they told me to update > the drivers for it... I donno what to do. Im not sure if its the drivers or > not. I am running A 1003 mhz computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon > processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was > wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be better for me to install... I always > like to have the most upgraded version. However im not sure if its buggy... > I would love to have 9.0 but i want to make sure i wont have tons of > errors.. I know it is in beta right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt > have many bugs or errors, and it would be a better upgrade then 8.2, please > tell me. I have alot of things I would like information on, so I would like > if a supporter could spend some time to help. I went through some linux > tutorials but xtra help is always good. First i need to get out of the > console :). Also... I was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok > I know AOL Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got :(, And > please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could do the > job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and how to > make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, and i > shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I > would appreciate it very much. Ive never used this post thing, so im not > sure if this will come out in like a message board, but if it does respond > to my email please instead of the post. Once again my email is: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) Sorry to hear you had problems. Here are some thoughts. 1/ Plz try to avoid using html mails when posting to a list. It is generally regarded as 'evil'. Your font comes out really tiny on my screen, and some people cannot receive html at all. (Your Outlook express has a setting to disable Html) 2/Your errors when installing packages is almost certainly the reason you cannot enter the graphical environment. If you downloaded your CDs try doing it again, and check the MD5 checksum of the download before committing to CD. 3/ You can use AOL with Linux. Check out http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=2314&lang=en I do believe Wine will workOk, but only with a very old version of AOL. Win4Lin is probably OK. 4/ Do not worry about your Nvidia drivers yet. You will need them for OpenGL games, but for normal use the default OpenSource drivers work just fine. Wait until you know what you are doing before installing the nvidia driver. 5/ Do not even think about 9.0 just yet. As with all Beta releases it still has plenty of faults in it. Mandrake 8.2 is a very advanced distro, and is very stable. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
No offence intended , but how did you begin the installation and set-up? Some background along with error messages will help people to advise in a better fashion. If possible , post soon while it's fresh in your mind. Actually , i know just how you feel , i've been there with many others , but we will help where we can! Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop > On Thursday 22 August 2002 01:06 am, you wrote: > > (response below quote) > Bottom posting is considered "good form" here, thanks. > > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. > > > > I > welcome > > > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > > > while installing the packages. > Ooops, always a good idea (at least in Linux) to make a note of what errors > say, it helps a lot in troubleshooting. we all know how "arcane" the error > message given by M$winblows products, but in Linux, the messsages really mean > something. next time BTW, have you considered re-installing and this time > trying the "expert" (as opposed to "recomended", it is kinda like the > difference between a "normal" and a "custom" software install) > > > > Installation went through fine, and the > > > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > > > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > > > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and > > > linux 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that > > > after installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and > > > stuff... Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me > > > go into the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like > > > desktop. It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was > > > the console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC > > > help channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run > > > startx. It said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or > > > something. Im not sure whether this is happening because of the > > > installation package errors or something. Anyways I went back to irc help > > > channel, and i stated this problem. They told me that linux would boot > > > into the desktop if my video was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video > > > card, and they told me to update the drivers for it... I donno what to > > > do. Im not sure if its the drivers or not. I am running A 1003 mhz > > > computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB > > > of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be > > > better for me to install... I always like to have the most upgraded > > > version. However im not sure if its buggy... I would love to have 9.0 but > > > i want to make sure i wont have tons of errors.. I know it is in beta > > > right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt have many bugs or errors, and > > > it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, please tell me. I have alot of > > > things I would like information on, so I would like if a supporter could > > > spend some time to help. I went through some linux tutorials but xtra > > > help is always good. First i need to get out of the console :). Also... I > > > was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok I know AOL > > > Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got > > > > > > :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could > > > : do > > > > > > the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and > > > how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, > > > and i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used > > > this post thing, so im not sure if this will come out in like a message > > > board, but if it does respond to my email please instead of the post. > > > Once again my email is: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) > I ain't the guy to help you with AOL, but a search of this mail list
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
On Thursday 22 August 2002 01:06 am, you wrote: > (response below quote) Bottom posting is considered "good form" here, thanks. > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. > > > I welcome > > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > > while installing the packages. Ooops, always a good idea (at least in Linux) to make a note of what errors say, it helps a lot in troubleshooting. we all know how "arcane" the error message given by M$winblows products, but in Linux, the messsages really mean something. next time BTW, have you considered re-installing and this time trying the "expert" (as opposed to "recomended", it is kinda like the difference between a "normal" and a "custom" software install) > > Installation went through fine, and the > > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and > > linux 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that > > after installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and > > stuff... Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me > > go into the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like > > desktop. It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was > > the console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC > > help channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run > > startx. It said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or > > something. Im not sure whether this is happening because of the > > installation package errors or something. Anyways I went back to irc help > > channel, and i stated this problem. They told me that linux would boot > > into the desktop if my video was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video > > card, and they told me to update the drivers for it... I donno what to > > do. Im not sure if its the drivers or not. I am running A 1003 mhz > > computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB > > of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be > > better for me to install... I always like to have the most upgraded > > version. However im not sure if its buggy... I would love to have 9.0 but > > i want to make sure i wont have tons of errors.. I know it is in beta > > right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt have many bugs or errors, and > > it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, please tell me. I have alot of > > things I would like information on, so I would like if a supporter could > > spend some time to help. I went through some linux tutorials but xtra > > help is always good. First i need to get out of the console :). Also... I > > was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok I know AOL > > Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got > > > > :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could > > : do > > > > the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and > > how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, > > and i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used > > this post thing, so im not sure if this will come out in like a message > > board, but if it does respond to my email please instead of the post. > > Once again my email is: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) I ain't the guy to help you with AOL, but a search of this mail list archive from the last few weeks should help, there was some links on how to get some AOL stuff running, but AOL is A WInders Program. I bet you you could get Earthlink.net damn near every point of presence that AOL has tho. > There are some whack issues with nVidia cards, at least there were on > earlier versions. When you installed, did you do a video/monitor test? I > know it prompts you for those in 7.2 and 8.0, but I'm still a year behind > the curve so I haven't seen any of this bleeding-edge 8.2 gadgetry (aka I > am too poor and on too slow of a connection to upgrade... lol). Anyway, if > you didnt do that test you should pop the startup CDs in again, skip right > to the video test step and make sure you get your video card and monitor > configured properly. It will be very, very easy with a new system and it > might solve your problem entirely. try (as root,) Fxdrake and select you correct card > Peace, > Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
probably a bad download, or a bad CD burn. try downloading and burning your CD again. those 'failed' packages are sign of big trouble. it shouldn't happen. (oh BTW during the installation, make sure you tell the installer to start X when you reboot ) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
(response below quote) On Wednesday 21 August 2002 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. I > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > while installing the packages. Installation went through fine, and the > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and linux > 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that after > installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and stuff... > Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me go into > the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like desktop. > It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was the > console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC help > channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run startx. It > said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or something. Im not > sure whether this is happening because of the installation package errors > or something. Anyways I went back to irc help channel, and i stated this > problem. They told me that linux would boot into the desktop if my video > was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video card, and they told me to update > the drivers for it... I donno what to do. Im not sure if its the drivers or > not. I am running A 1003 mhz computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon > processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was > wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be better for me to install... I always > like to have the most upgraded version. However im not sure if its buggy... > I would love to have 9.0 but i want to make sure i wont have tons of > errors.. I know it is in beta right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt > have many bugs or errors, and it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, > please tell me. I have alot of things I would like information on, so I > would like if a supporter could spend some time to help. I went through > some linux tutorials but xtra help is always good. First i need to get out > of the console :). Also... I was wondering if i could get AOL to run on > linux.. Ok I know AOL Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got > :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could do > the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and > how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, and > i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as > I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used this post thing, so im not > sure if this will come out in like a message board, but if it does respond > to my email please instead of the post. Once again my email is: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) There are some whack issues with nVidia cards, at least there were on earlier versions. When you installed, did you do a video/monitor test? I know it prompts you for those in 7.2 and 8.0, but I'm still a year behind the curve so I haven't seen any of this bleeding-edge 8.2 gadgetry (aka I am too poor and on too slow of a connection to upgrade... lol). Anyway, if you didnt do that test you should pop the startup CDs in again, skip right to the video test step and make sure you get your video card and monitor configured properly. It will be very, very easy with a new system and it might solve your problem entirely. Peace, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. I downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors while installing the packages. Installation went through fine, and the packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and linux 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that after installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and stuff... Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me go into the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like desktop. It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was the console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC help channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run startx. It said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or something. Im not sure whether this is happening because of the installation package errors or something. Anyways I went back to irc help channel, and i stated this problem. They told me that linux would boot into the desktop if my video was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video card, and they told me to update the drivers for it... I donno what to do. Im not sure if its the drivers or not. I am running A 1003 mhz computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be better for me to install... I always like to have the most upgraded version. However im not sure if its buggy... I would love to have 9.0 but i want to make sure i wont have tons of errors.. I know it is in beta right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt have many bugs or errors, and it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, please tell me. I have alot of things I would like information on, so I would like if a supporter could spend some time to help. I went through some linux tutorials but xtra help is always good. First i need to get out of the console :). Also... I was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok I know AOL Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could do the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, and i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used this post thing, so im not sure if this will come out in like a message board, but if it does respond to my email please instead of the post. Once again my email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :)
