Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
any ideas which version? On Thursday 24 January 2002 00:07, you spoke unto me thusly: AMD XP cpu's are not affected from this bug. I heard that the problem is fixed at some stepping version of thunderbird. -- I don't know who said that, but I usually credit Shakespeare. That guy said damn near everything. -me shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
dunno, but I have been using a AthlonXP1800 with an Nvidia AGP card for ages now, (3 months.) and its been fine and VERY stable for me... XP is in fact a new CPU,, its not a thunderbird core like the 1.4 athlon.. (I think the new one might be called palimino,, can't remember for sure, just know its not a t'bird.) having said that, I don't in fact know if they have the AGP prob or not, just that I haven't seen the problem myself.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shane Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
Here's more than you probably want to know (and more than I understand) on this issue - from a linux distribution site (gentoo), AMD and a kernel developer. Bottom line: Seems like a problem. There is a fix. The fix may result in a performance hit (and I have an Athlon XP 1700!). The kernel folks are working on it! Terry Smith Cape Cod USA (Read them in the order pasted in). http://lwn.net/2002/0124/kernel.php3 (read the memory paging section first as it has some context) http://lwn.net/2002/0124/a/athlon-agp-problem.php3 http://www.gentoo.org/ On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 23:47, shane wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Mario Michael da Costa wrote: shane wrote: 2.4.18 huh? and here i just did 2.4.17 today... ;-) On Monday 21 January 2002 11:25, you spoke unto me thusly: The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? Thank You, Regards, mario peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
AMD XP cpu's are not affected from this bug. I heard that the problem is fixed at some stepping version of thunderbird. Regards, Kursad - Original Message - From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AMD CPU bug
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23749.html anyone know anything about this? i have not personally had more than 2 crashes with mandrake since i started using it with 7.1, and i am on an athelon, but the news makes it sound like only _some_ cpus are affected. if you use the fix and are not affected are you taking a performance hit for nothing? -- The universe is a figment of its own imagination. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shane Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AMD CPU bug http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23749.html anyone know anything about this? i have not personally had more than 2 crashes with mandrake since i started using it with 7.1, and i am on an athelon, but the news makes it sound like only _some_ cpus are affected. if you use the fix and are not affected are you taking a performance hit for nothing? -- The universe is a figment of its own imagination. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
2.4.18 huh? and here i just did 2.4.17 today... ;-) On Monday 21 January 2002 11:25, you spoke unto me thusly: The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. -- One of the surest signs of intelligent in outer space is that it hasn't contacted us yet. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
