[newbie] Building the source to reflect current config

2003-12-30 Thread George P. Stathis
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Hello, I am running Mandrake 
9.2 and I am trying to install VMware Workstation 4 on it (http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_features.html).

This software requires the 
header files of the Linux kernel since it makes some changes to them. When I 
downloaded the 3 disks of Mandrake 9.2, I did not see the Linux source included 
in them. It's not appearing in the RPM packages either. I downloaded the source 
from one of the Cooker mirrors and extracted it. VMware is looking for the 
header files under /usr/src/linux/include and there is nothing there out of the 
box. So I unpacked the downloaded source files in there and ran a make. 
Unfortunately, VMware detects differences between the make results and the 
current running kernel, so it fails.

Here is finally my question: 
short of recompiling the kernel from the source so that my running kernel 
matches the source, is there a way to grab my current kernel configuration and 
pass it as a parameter to the "make" command so that I can build the source 
files to reflect my exact current configuration (version number 
included)?

Thank you in advance for your 
time.

-GS


Re: [newbie] Building the source to reflect current config

2003-12-30 Thread Sharrea Day
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:00, George P. Stathis wrote:

Firstly, please lose the Reply-to address. It causes replies to go 
directly to you rather than the list.  Thanks.

 When I open my KDE control center, the release number
 is 2.4.22-10mdk and the machine is i686.

OK, that is the standard kernel that comes with 9.2 on the disks.  Even 
though your machine is a x686, the rpms you're using are compiled for x586 
and makes no difference.

Just FYI, it is possible to compile all rpms for x686 but not only does it 
take a very long time, there is little or no performance gain.  So just 
stick with x586 rpms.

 The source rpm that I had already found was called
 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm.

That is NOT the package you want.  That is a source rpm that you have to 
rebuild.

 The FTP link that you sent is for i596. I looked in
 the RPMS folder and there is a file called
 kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk.i586.rpm.
 How do I know which source is the right one for me?

Yep, this is the package you're after (kernel-source).  Install this one 
if you do not intend to first update your system.

 I have also been trying to get the Software Media
 Manager to recognize a local folder under root where I
 have been downloading the rpm files so that the
 packages show up in RpmDrake but without success. Does
 RpmDrake offer something better when compared to
 simply running the rpm packages standalone?

You can add sources using urpmi.addmedia at the command line.  Open a 
terminal, su to root and type (ignore the #, it merely denotes the root 
console prompt):

#  urpmi.addmedia options name file://path [ with relative path of 
synthesis/hdlist ]

***EXAMPLE 1***
I have downloaded rpms which are stored in /shared/downloads/9_2/general.  
There is no synthesis or hdlist for this directory of rpms:

#  urpmi.addmedia general file://shared/downloads/9_2/general/

Rpmdrake will now list these under the general source repository.

If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
Click Add.
Select Type of Medium: Local files
Enter a name in Name:  eg. general
Click Browse. Navigate to the directory containing your downloaded rpms.
Click OK.

Rpmdrake will now list these under the general source repository.
   ==

***EXAMPLE 2***
I have downloaded all the security/bug fixes and the relative hdlist which 
are stored in /shared/downloads/9_2/updates (hdlist.cz in same directory):

#  urpmi.addmedia --update updates file://shared/downloads/9_2/updates/ with 
./hdlist.cz

The --update option tells urpmi and rpmdrake to treat this source as the 
update source.  Rpmdrake will now list these under the updates source 
repository.

Rpmdrake will now list these under the updates source repository.

If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
Click Add.
Select Type of Medium: Security updates
The name update_source is automatically entered in the Name field.
Type in path to the directory containing the downloaded update rpms:
file://shared/downloads/9_2/updates
Tick the checkbox next to Relative path to synthesis/hdlist: and enter the 
RELATIVE path to hdlist (in my case, same directory):
./hdlist.cz
Click OK

Rpmdrake will now list these under the update_source source repository.
   ==

***EXAMPLE 3***
To use an ftp updates mirror (make sure you are connected to the internet.):

#  urpmi.addmedia --update updates 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ 
with ../base/hdlist.cz

Wait while the list is downloaded.

Rpmdrake will now list these under the updates source repository.

If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
Click Add.
Select Type of Medium: Security updates
The name update_source is automatically entered in the Name field.
Click Choose a mirror, click Yes and select a mirror from the list.
Click OK and wait while the list is downloaded.

Rpmdrake will now list these under the update_source source repository.
   ==

There is a website that makes it very easy to find the various sources 
(updates, contrib, plf, etc) and the relative commands for urpmi.  Check 
out http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
 
 Sorry for the newbie questions...Linux is obviously
 not my main OS but I do need to use it for some
 academic development pusposes (that's why right now, I
 don't really need all the security updates, I just
 want that silly VMware to work).
 
 Thank you for your time!

No problemo!  We all have to start somewhere.  I've been using Linux for 
2-1/2 years now and I'm still learning... gotta love it!

Sharrea

 --- Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 04:50, George P. Stathis wrote:
   Here is finally my question: short of recompiling
 
  the kernel from the
 
   source so that my running kernel matches the
 
  source, is there a way to
 
   grab my current kernel configuration and pass it
 
  as a parameter to the
 
   make command so that I 

Re: [newbie] Building the source to reflect current config

2003-12-30 Thread George P. Stathis
Wow, if this isn't excellent help, I don't know what
is. Thank you for taking the time.

The difference between the two packages is apparent
immediately after I unpack them. The kernel-source
package installs the built source directly under
/usr/src/linux. After installing it, I was able to
configure VMware without any further problems.

-GS


--- Sharrea Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:00, George P. Stathis wrote:
 
 Firstly, please lose the Reply-to address. It
 causes replies to go 
 directly to you rather than the list.  Thanks.
 
  When I open my KDE control center, the release
 number
  is 2.4.22-10mdk and the machine is i686.
 
 OK, that is the standard kernel that comes with 9.2
 on the disks.  Even 
 though your machine is a x686, the rpms you're using
 are compiled for x586 
 and makes no difference.
 
 Just FYI, it is possible to compile all rpms for
 x686 but not only does it 
 take a very long time, there is little or no
 performance gain.  So just 
 stick with x586 rpms.
 
  The source rpm that I had already found was called
  kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm.
 
 That is NOT the package you want.  That is a source
 rpm that you have to 
 rebuild.
 
  The FTP link that you sent is for i596. I looked
 in
  the RPMS folder and there is a file called
  kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk.i586.rpm.
  How do I know which source is the right one for
 me?
 
 Yep, this is the package you're after
 (kernel-source).  Install this one 
 if you do not intend to first update your system.
 
  I have also been trying to get the Software Media
  Manager to recognize a local folder under root
 where I
  have been downloading the rpm files so that the
  packages show up in RpmDrake but without success.
 Does
  RpmDrake offer something better when compared to
  simply running the rpm packages standalone?
 
 You can add sources using urpmi.addmedia at the
 command line.  Open a 
 terminal, su to root and type (ignore the #, it
 merely denotes the root 
 console prompt):
 
 #  urpmi.addmedia options name file://path [
 with relative path of 
 synthesis/hdlist ]
 
 ***EXAMPLE 1***
 I have downloaded rpms which are stored in
 /shared/downloads/9_2/general.  
 There is no synthesis or hdlist for this directory
 of rpms:
 
 #  urpmi.addmedia general
 file://shared/downloads/9_2/general/
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the general
 source repository.
 
 If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
 Click Add.
 Select Type of Medium: Local files
 Enter a name in Name:  eg. general
 Click Browse. Navigate to the directory containing
 your downloaded rpms.
 Click OK.
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the general
 source repository.
==
 
 ***EXAMPLE 2***
 I have downloaded all the security/bug fixes and the
 relative hdlist which 
 are stored in /shared/downloads/9_2/updates
 (hdlist.cz in same directory):
 
 #  urpmi.addmedia --update updates
 file://shared/downloads/9_2/updates/ with 
 ./hdlist.cz
 
 The --update option tells urpmi and rpmdrake to
 treat this source as the 
 update source.  Rpmdrake will now list these under
 the updates source 
 repository.
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the updates
 source repository.
 
 If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
 Click Add.
 Select Type of Medium: Security updates
 The name update_source is automatically entered in
 the Name field.
 Type in path to the directory containing the
 downloaded update rpms:
 file://shared/downloads/9_2/updates
 Tick the checkbox next to Relative path to
 synthesis/hdlist: and enter the 
 RELATIVE path to hdlist (in my case, same
 directory):
 ./hdlist.cz
 Click OK
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the
 update_source source repository.
==
 
 ***EXAMPLE 3***
 To use an ftp updates mirror (make sure you are
 connected to the internet.):
 
 #  urpmi.addmedia --update updates 

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/
 
 with ../base/hdlist.cz
 
 Wait while the list is downloaded.
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the updates
 source repository.
 
 If you prefer to use the gui Software Media Manager:
 Click Add.
 Select Type of Medium: Security updates
 The name update_source is automatically entered in
 the Name field.
 Click Choose a mirror, click Yes and select a
 mirror from the list.
 Click OK and wait while the list is downloaded.
 
 Rpmdrake will now list these under the
 update_source source repository.
==
 
 There is a website that makes it very easy to find
 the various sources 
 (updates, contrib, plf, etc) and the relative
 commands for urpmi.  Check 
 out http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
  
  Sorry for the newbie questions...Linux is
 obviously
  not my main OS but I do need to use it for some
  academic development pusposes (that's why right
 now, I
  don't really need all the security updates, I just
  want that silly