Re: [newbie] C compilers
Didn't mean to bash Iowa (it's generally an okay place for family things and growing corn, etc...), I just HAD to comment on this guy's signature! One of those dumb-things-ya-gotta-do-sometimes! I have been there for work before, so I thought I would mention my view on things. So if any Corn Huskers were offended by my message, sorry. Steve W. (and no, I haven't made my first billion dollars yet, but closer than some to doing so) - Original Message - From: "Brendan K Callahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] C compilers Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
Re: [newbie] C compilers
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Steve Weltman wrote: Didn't mean to bash Iowa (it's generally an okay place for family things and growing corn, etc...), I just HAD to comment on this guy's signature! One of those dumb-things-ya-gotta-do-sometimes! I have been there for work before, so I thought I would mention my view on things. So if any Corn Huskers were offended by my message, sorry. Steve W. (and no, I haven't made my first billion dollars yet, but closer than some to doing so) Well we weren't offended until you associated the Corn Huskers with Iowa! The great state of Nebraska is home to the Corn Huskers. All fussin' and feudin' and inbreedin' aside, we Midwesterners (especially Nebraskans) take our football seriously. They (Iowa) are on one side of the Missouri river and we are on the other side... which happens to be the winning side! ;-) TRBishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Brendan K Callahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] C compilers Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
RE: [newbie] C compilers
Practical C++ Programming Steve Quilline O'Reilly Associates Their C and C++ books are the absolute best I've ever seen. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Michael Khachiki wrote: Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen
Re: [newbie] C compilers
I can answer that question with on word Codewarrior you'll never go back to Boreland again. :)_ -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program.
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks, I tried gcc and found I like it :) Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a *ton* of programming books... Michael Khachiki wrote: Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
I think there is a graphical debugger called ddd but I don't know about a compiler... Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Here they are: Sniff++ (www.takefive.com/penguin/) CodeWarrior for GNU (www.metroworks.com) C-Forge (www.codeforge.com/) Visual K (www.viskprog.org/) Code Crusader (with code medic dbg) (www.newplanetsoftware.com/jcc/) Builder Xccessory Pro Jbuilder 3.5 Foundation Cole GIDE GLG ToolKit GLUT K Develop MetaCard VDK Builder Wwxstudio TCL Developer Studio Gnome Filer C Meister AnyJ Etc..., etc... + many developers library's + debuggers + utilities Eric MC µBrendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
RE: [newbie] C compilers
Mark, What version of CodeWarrior are you using? I contacted the support people there and they said their *current* version does not run under Mandrake-Linux (they have RedHat SuSE versions). But they said they are beta testing their next version which WILL run under Mandrake-Linux 7.1. I, too, am doing an evaluation of C++ development environments for Linux, and my short list consists of: KDevelop, Moonshine (I think I'm gonna pick this one just for the NAME! ;-), C-Forge, and WipeOut. Any comments/suggestions on which of these you think is "best" would be greatly welcomed. Thanks! Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Mark Weaver[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 5:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] C compilers I can answer that question with on word Codewarrior you'll never go back to Boreland again. :)_ -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program.
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Kathleen Dickason wrote: I think there is a graphical debugger called ddd but I don't know about a compiler... Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 There's an IDE Programming app called Codewarrior that is probably one of the best developement tools that exists for Linux. It's relatively inexpensive as far as these things go. I think around $70 dollars. -- Mark You know...if my wife were any nicer to me I'd have to buy a new suite!
Re: [newbie] C compilers
"Hanson, Lisa M" wrote: Mark, What version of CodeWarrior are you using? I contacted the support people there and they said their *current* version does not run under Mandrake-Linux (they have RedHat SuSE versions). But they said they are beta testing their next version which WILL run under Mandrake-Linux 7.1. I, too, am doing an evaluation of C++ development environments for Linux, and my short list consists of: KDevelop, Moonshine (I think I'm gonna pick this one just for the NAME! ;-), C-Forge, and WipeOut. Any comments/suggestions on which of these you think is "best" would be greatly welcomed. Thanks! Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Mark Weaver[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 5:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] C compilers I can answer that question with on word Codewarrior you'll never go back to Boreland again. :)_ -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. I haven't bought my version of Codewarrior yet. I've seen it though and it's nice! At the moment I'm using what comes with linux, and sometimes I boot windows and use my Boreland IDE. I had started leaning C++ a while back, but then I got REAL busy with school and didn't have the time. Now that all my computer classes are over and I've got two semesters left I have more time to get back to C++. -- Mark You know...if my wife were any nicer to me I'd have to buy a new suite!
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks, I tried gcc and found I like it :) Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a *ton* of programming books... Michael Khachiki wrote: Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thank you - I tried gcc and found I like it a lot. I don't care as much about fancy as about functional, so I am happily set up with vim and gcc now. :) Have you tried lcc? I heard it's similar to gcc but not identical and I wondered what the difference was. I've written your book title down, to go with kernighan and ritchie's _the c programming language_ when i am a bit farther along! Pete Clapham wrote: Kathleen -- I use gcc to program in C. It works fine, and it's installed automatically with Mandrake if you install the "developer" mode (when installing do customized, then developer). It's not as fancy as, say, Borland on Windows, but it works well. If you want a book that will actually let you learn C, I would recommend the book by Donald (I think) Kochan (the last name is correct). If memory serves, the title is Programming in C (creative title, here), second edition. It's paperback, green, with a diamond on the front cover. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:06:52 -0500, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #18213 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks! Gcc is seeming to work well for me for C. Its error messages if I don't get a clean compile are easy for me to understand...I type gcc -Wall -ggdb hello.c -o hello This is FUN. Hello, World! ;) (apologies for lame newbie joke) Mark Weaver wrote: Hi Kathleen, I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. the command line to invoke the compiler looks like this: source code file name: hello.cc binary name after compile: hello command line syntax:g++ -g -Wall -ohello hello.cc ENTER if your program is coded correctly when you hit the enter key your machine will whir for a second and then come back to the command prompt. a clean compile is nothing but the command prompt. Then type the name of the binary and watch your program run. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, you wrote: I can answer that question with on word Codewarrior you'll never go back to Boreland again. :)_ -- Mark Thanks to everyone for the resounding referal to Codewarrier! -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit
[newbie] C compilers
Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen
RE: [newbie] C compilers
Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Kathleen -- I use gcc to program in C. It works fine, and it's installed automatically with Mandrake if you install the "developer" mode (when installing do customized, then developer). It's not as fancy as, say, Borland on Windows, but it works well. If you want a book that will actually let you learn C, I would recommend the book by Donald (I think) Kochan (the last name is correct). If memory serves, the title is Programming in C (creative title, here), second edition. It's paperback, green, with a diamond on the front cover. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:06:52 -0500, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Hi Kathleen, I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. the command line to invoke the compiler looks like this: source code file name: hello.cc binary name after compile: hello command line syntax:g++ -g -Wall -ohello hello.cc ENTER if your program is coded correctly when you hit the enter key your machine will whir for a second and then come back to the command prompt. a clean compile is nothing but the command prompt. Then type the name of the binary and watch your program run. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen
