[newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Betti Ann Preston Smith
I am about to install Mandrake and need some advice on the directory 
structure I should us.

I have a 6 Gig drive which I will dedicate to Linux use.
I plan to keep any data that should be used by both W98 and Linux in a 
separate 5 Gig Fat partition on another drive.

I would like to be able to do new installs without having to do a reformat 
of my Linux drive each time.  I also might want to try to install 
Fedora.  So, how can I set up my directory structure so that I can upgrade 
or add another distribution with minimum disruption and without deleting 
applications that I have added.

Thanks
Preston
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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Marc Hultquist
You want to install both MDK and Fedora on 1 6 Gig harddrive? I don't know how 
others feel, but I personally feel that you are pushing the limits here in 
terms of space :\ Last time I tried fedora on a development machine, it took 
up a decent amount of space, and well I just don't think I would have been 
able to survive with a 6GB hdd !

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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Betti Ann Preston Smith
Marc -
Thanks - that is the type of info this newbie needs.  Assuming then that I 
install just one distro, what directory/partition structure should I use 
and what size should they be?

Preston
At 09:31 AM 5/19/04, Marc Hultquist wrote:
You want to install both MDK and Fedora on 1 6 Gig harddrive? I don't know 
how
others feel, but I personally feel that you are pushing the limits here in
terms of space :\ Last time I tried fedora on a development machine, it took
up a decent amount of space, and well I just don't think I would have been
able to survive with a 6GB hdd !
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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread David A. Ferguson
 Marc -

 Thanks - that is the type of info this newbie needs.  Assuming then that I
 install just one distro, what directory/partition structure should I use
 and what size should they be?

 Preston

 At 09:31 AM 5/19/04, Marc Hultquist wrote:
 You want to install both MDK and Fedora on 1 6 Gig harddrive? I don't
know
 how
 others feel, but I personally feel that you are pushing the limits here
in
 terms of space :\ Last time I tried fedora on a development machine, it
took
 up a decent amount of space, and well I just don't think I would have
been
 able to survive with a 6GB hdd !

The easyest thing is to have one swap partition and one partition mounted
at '/'.  This has the advantage of not forcing you to guess how much space
to allocate to / v.s /usr.

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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
David A. Ferguson wrote:
The easyest thing is to have one swap partition and one partition mounted
at '/'.  This has the advantage of not forcing you to guess how much space
to allocate to / v.s /usr.
David
Not very good idea. At least you should divide / and /home in separate 
partitions, otherwise  on first opearting system update you're going to 
delete all your personal data.
I'd suggest 3G for /, 2.5G for /home and 500M for swap (more or less).

I have no experience with Fedora, but I did have MDK9.2 and W2K both 
installed on a 6G HD. No KDE or Gnome, though (but the complete 
development tools).

raffaele

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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Marc Hultquist
I have to agree with other replies on the list.

I would basically for a simple setup do as follows:
/ - Root Partition
/home -Home Direcroties
/swap -Rule of thumb, your swap partition is twice the size of your ram, of 
course it can be bigger.

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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2004-05-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 08:42 am, Betti Ann  Preston Smith wrote:
 Marc -

 Thanks - that is the type of info this newbie needs.  Assuming then that I
 install just one distro, what directory/partition structure should I use
 and what size should they be?

 Preston

 At 09:31 AM 5/19/04, Marc Hultquist wrote:
 You want to install both MDK and Fedora on 1 6 Gig harddrive? I don't know
 how
 others feel, but I personally feel that you are pushing the limits here in
 terms of space :\ Last time I tried fedora on a development machine, it
  took up a decent amount of space, and well I just don't think I would
  have been able to survive with a 6GB hdd !


Preston:
My advice would be to use the default partitioning suggested by the Mandrake 
installer, but with a separate /home partition. Format them as either reiser 
or ext3.
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[newbie] Directory Structure

2002-02-13 Thread Paul Kraus

One of the reasons for switching to unix was the control over the os
that it allows. But I must admit the may files are organized are
completly chaotic. One install installs everything into one directory
another spreads the files out to every single directory on your drive.
How you can possibly maintain backups. Its driving me nuts. I can never
find anything. I am anal when it comes to how I keep my files. Is there
some logic to this that I am missing?

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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2002-02-13 Thread Nicolas VERITE

Paul Kraus wrote:
 One of the reasons for switching to unix was the control over the os
 that it allows. But I must admit the may files are organized are
 completly chaotic. One install installs everything into one directory
 another spreads the files out to every single directory on your drive.
 How you can possibly maintain backups. Its driving me nuts. I can never
 find anything. I am anal when it comes to how I keep my files. Is there
 some logic to this that I am missing?
 
 PK

Part of filesystem hierarchy structure is organized
(read standardized) by the FHS (part of the LSB).

FHS
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

LSB
http://www.linuxbase.org/

NĂ¿co




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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2002-02-13 Thread Randy Kramer

Nicolas VERITE wrote:
 FHS
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

For an on-line version of the fhs, see

http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/FHS

Randy Kramer

 LSB
 http://www.linuxbase.org/



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Re: [newbie] Directory Structure

2002-02-13 Thread Michael

Anuerin G. Diaz wrote:
 
 On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:54:13 +1100
 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me:
 
  On 13 Feb 2002 03:29:51 -0500, Paul Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   One of the reasons for switching to unix was the control over the os
   that it allows. But I must admit the may files are organized are
   completly chaotic. One install installs everything into one directory
   another spreads the files out to every single directory on your drive.
   How you can possibly maintain backups. Its driving me nuts. I can never
   find anything. I am anal when it comes to how I keep my files. Is there
   some logic to this that I am missing?
 
  GNU/Linux stores its files in a UNIX-like manner, which is tuned more towards
  servers and networks than to desktop computers. For a Windows user, who is used
  to each app having its own directory, this can be confusing. I was once in that
  position. Now, I'm quite used to it, and I appreciate the enormous power and
  flexibility it allows.
 
 snip
 
 well not really. Windows installers also scatter a lot of files around. That's why 
it's not advisable to just delete a directory instead of using the application's 
uninstaller (if it does have one).
 
 ciao!
 

Worse, windows installers will happily replace a .dll with an older version of
the same .dll. I found that SFC was the only way to keep up. Go figure?

Michael 

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