[newbie] Disappointed - Mandrake rules supreme!
Just a quick note to say thank you all who have assisted me with my problems getting Mandrake 8 booted on my laptop. The issue has now been resolved, loading the 2.2 kernel - it now boots and works brilliantly! Many thanks, Adam Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210
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Adam Henson wrote: Ok thanks. Thats the trouble though, - can't install Mandrake 8 because it hangs on bootup... So far nothing has worked. Every other distro has worked on this laptop so far.. :-( I'm at work now but Ive got a Caldera ISO downloading at home. Would rather use Mandrake but my hand is forced... AdamIs my assumption correct (in my opinion you haven't been very clear about this) that you are able to install Mandrake Linux 8.0 but when it comes time to boot the new installation it freezes your laptop? If so (I believe that your problem may have to do with the frame buffer mode) please do this. When the lilo screen comes up choose to boot in the 'linux-nonfb' mode. -- Alan
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Keith, Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the laptop completely freezes when it gets to INIT. Nothing will work, and it won't switch to any other consoles. Can't call the manufacturer as I think its now out of warranty and they won't support Linux anyhow. Really don't understand whats causing it to crash. The ISO downloaded fine, the disk has been completely wiped down and repartitioned with both Mandrakes own installer, and then I tried Partition magic as well, so theres no problem disk wise. It all boots up real fast.. looking good... and it hits INIT like a brick wall.. bang! - And then freezes.. How very annoying. Bummer :-( a. -Original Message- From: Keith Christian [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 16:51 To: Adam Henson Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, Have you looked at the other console windows (I think it's CTRL+ALT+F2 or CTRL+ALT+F3) for clues? You might consider wiping out the partitions by booting into the rescue system which gives a vanilla shell, and trying that. Mandrake 8 *should* install OK. I haven't tried it, but I have installed numerous Linux distributions over the years on a wide range of Toshiba laptops with no problems. Have you called your laptop manufacturer's help line or visited their website for more info? It's frustrating at times, but when installing, there should be some sort of command line option that you could use to install Mandrake. Not sure how to invoke it but it should be there. Good luck! ===Keith Adam Henson wrote: Looks like I'm going to have to abandon all hope of running Mandrake, it won't boot on my laptop, just hangs after the line INIT 2.78. Damn shame, - I was looking forward to that! Does anyone have any ideas I could try? I'm not running any virtual servers or VNC or anything and its not waiting for a password, it just completely hangs. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Francisco, Thanks for your comments. I'm still playing with it, and will see if I can get any further. I take it you installed 7.1 and then upgraded it to 8 rather than a clean install? A. -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 June 2001 19:51 To: Adam Henson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, I have not readed your previous messages, but I had a similar problem with my Toshiba laptop due to the existence of an Automatical PCI configuration in the BIOS. Other problems were solved when I used MDK 7.1 (now I am runing 8.0 and it is absolutly wonderfull) with text installation; graphical installation gave me lots of problems. I hope this will help you Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Sb 02 Jun 2001 04:45, escribiste: Keith, Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the laptop completely freezes when it gets to INIT. Nothing will work, and it won't switch to any other consoles. Can't call the manufacturer as I think its now out of warranty and they won't support Linux anyhow. Really don't understand whats causing it to crash. The ISO downloaded fine, the disk has been completely wiped down and repartitioned with both Mandrakes own installer, and then I tried Partition magic as well, so theres no problem disk wise. It all boots up real fast.. looking good... and it hits INIT like a brick wall.. bang! - And then freezes.. How very annoying. Bummer :-( a. -Original Message- From: Keith Christian [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 16:51 To: Adam Henson Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, Have you looked at the other console windows (I think it's CTRL+ALT+F2 or CTRL+ALT+F3) for clues? You might consider wiping out the partitions by booting into the rescue system which gives a vanilla shell, and trying that. Mandrake 8 *should* install OK. I haven't tried it, but I have installed numerous Linux distributions over the years on a wide range of Toshiba laptops with no problems. Have you called your laptop manufacturer's help line or visited their website for more info? It's frustrating at times, but when installing, there should be some sort of command line option that you could use to install Mandrake. Not sure how to invoke it but it should be there. Good luck! ===Keith Adam Henson wrote: Looks like I'm going to have to abandon all hope of running Mandrake, it won't boot on my laptop, just hangs after the line INIT 2.78. Damn shame, - I was looking forward to that! Does anyone have any ideas I could try? I'm not running any virtual servers or VNC or anything and its not waiting for a password, it just completely hangs. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Adam, Didn't you once say that you has Mandrake 7.2 running on that laptop, and that the only reason you couldn't switch back to 7.2 was that you no longer had the CD available? I could burn you a CD and mail it to you... Dave On Saturday 02 June 2001 03:45, thus spake Adam Henson: Keith, Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the laptop completely freezes when it gets to INIT. Nothing will work, and it won't switch to any other consoles. Can't call the manufacturer as I think its now out of warranty and they won't support Linux anyhow. Really don't understand whats causing it to crash. The ISO downloaded fine, the disk has been completely wiped down and repartitioned with both Mandrakes own installer, and then I tried Partition magic as well, so theres no problem disk wise. It all boots up real fast.. looking good... and it hits INIT like a brick wall.. bang! - And then freezes.. How very annoying. Bummer :-( a. -Original Message- From: Keith Christian [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 16:51 To: Adam Henson Subject:Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, Have you looked at the other console windows (I think it's CTRL+ALT+F2 or CTRL+ALT+F3) for clues? You might consider wiping out the partitions by booting into the rescue system which gives a vanilla shell, and trying that. Mandrake 8 *should* install OK. I haven't tried it, but I have installed numerous Linux distributions over the years on a wide range of Toshiba laptops with no problems. Have you called your laptop manufacturer's help line or visited their website for more info? It's frustrating at times, but when installing, there should be some sort of command line option that you could use to install Mandrake. Not sure how to invoke it but it should be there. Good luck! ===Keith Adam Henson wrote: Looks like I'm going to have to abandon all hope of running Mandrake, it won't boot on my laptop, just hangs after the line INIT 2.78. Damn shame, - I was looking forward to that! Does anyone have any ideas I could try? I'm not running any virtual servers or VNC or anything and its not waiting for a password, it just completely hangs. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money. - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C.
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Ok thanks. Thats the trouble though, - can't install Mandrake 8 because it hangs on bootup... So far nothing has worked. Every other distro has worked on this laptop so far.. :-( I'm at work now but Ive got a Caldera ISO downloading at home. Would rather use Mandrake but my hand is forced... a. -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 June 2001 21:37 To: Adam Henson Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed No, some of the Mandrake team people have said us that the changes between 7.1, 7.2 and 8 are to bigs, they also said that you must do a clean MDK 8 installation from 7.1 or 7.2 to 8, if not the possibilities to crash the sistem are very high. Of course, if you have made a /home partition under 7.1 you can mantain it in 8.0, just don't format that partition; if you create the same users as you had in 7.1 and conserv the /home partition you'll don't lost the basic configuration of each one. Remember, do a clean installation, never an upgraded from 7.1 or 7.2 to 8. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Sb 02 Jun 2001 09:13, escribiste: Francisco, Thanks for your comments. I'm still playing with it, and will see if I can get any further. I take it you installed 7.1 and then upgraded it to 8 rather than a clean install? A. -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 June 2001 19:51 To: Adam Henson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, I have not readed your previous messages, but I had a similar problem with my Toshiba laptop due to the existence of an Automatical PCI configuration in the BIOS. Other problems were solved when I used MDK 7.1 (now I am runing 8.0 and it is absolutly wonderfull) with text installation; graphical installation gave me lots of problems. I hope this will help you Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Sb 02 Jun 2001 04:45, escribiste: Keith, Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the laptop completely freezes when it gets to INIT. Nothing will work, and it won't switch to any other consoles. Can't call the manufacturer as I think its now out of warranty and they won't support Linux anyhow. Really don't understand whats causing it to crash. The ISO downloaded fine, the disk has been completely wiped down and repartitioned with both Mandrakes own installer, and then I tried Partition magic as well, so theres no problem disk wise. It all boots up real fast.. looking good... and it hits INIT like a brick wall.. bang! - And then freezes.. How very annoying. Bummer :-( a. -Original Message- From: Keith Christian [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 16:51 To: Adam Henson Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, Have you looked at the other console windows (I think it's CTRL+ALT+F2 or CTRL+ALT+F3) for clues? You might consider wiping out the partitions by booting into the rescue system which gives a vanilla shell, and trying that. Mandrake 8 *should* install OK. I haven't tried it, but I have installed numerous Linux distributions over the years on a wide range of Toshiba laptops with no problems. Have you called your laptop manufacturer's help line or visited their website for more info? It's frustrating at times, but when installing, there should be some sort of command line option that you could use to install Mandrake. Not sure how to invoke it but it should be there. Good luck! ===Keith Adam Henson wrote: Looks like I'm going to have to abandon all hope of running Mandrake, it won't boot on my laptop, just hangs after the line INIT 2.78. Damn shame, - I was looking forward to that! Does anyone have any ideas I could try? I'm not running any virtual servers or VNC or anything and its not waiting for a password, it just completely hangs. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thats the trouble though, - can't install Mandrake 8 because it hangs on bootup... So far nothing has worked. Every other distro has worked on this laptop so far.. If you've already tried this forgive me, I've missed a lot of mail due to my own technical problems. I had a problem with my computer hanging too. Try booting from a floppy made from one of the alternate CD images - try them all. One of them finally let me boot to the install program. -Eric :-( I'm at work now but Ive got a Caldera ISO downloading at home. Would rather use Mandrake but my hand is forced... a. -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 June 2001 21:37 To: Adam Henson Subject:Re: [newbie] Disappointed No, some of the Mandrake team people have said us that the changes between 7.1, 7.2 and 8 are to bigs, they also said that you must do a clean MDK 8 installation from 7.1 or 7.2 to 8, if not the possibilities to crash the sistem are very high. Of course, if you have made a /home partition under 7.1 you can mantain it in 8.0, just don't format that partition; if you create the same users as you had in 7.1 and conserv the /home partition you'll don't lost the basic configuration of each one. Remember, do a clean installation, never an upgraded from 7.1 or 7.2 to 8. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Sb 02 Jun 2001 09:13, escribiste: Francisco, Thanks for your comments. I'm still playing with it, and will see if I can get any further. I take it you installed 7.1 and then upgraded it to 8 rather than a clean install? A. -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 June 2001 19:51 To: Adam Henson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, I have not readed your previous messages, but I had a similar problem with my Toshiba laptop due to the existence of an Automatical PCI configuration in the BIOS. Other problems were solved when I used MDK 7.1 (now I am runing 8.0 and it is absolutly wonderfull) with text installation; graphical installation gave me lots of problems. I hope this will help you Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) El Sb 02 Jun 2001 04:45, escribiste: Keith, Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately the laptop completely freezes when it gets to INIT. Nothing will work, and it won't switch to any other consoles. Can't call the manufacturer as I think its now out of warranty and they won't support Linux anyhow. Really don't understand whats causing it to crash. The ISO downloaded fine, the disk has been completely wiped down and repartitioned with both Mandrakes own installer, and then I tried Partition magic as well, so theres no problem disk wise. It all boots up real fast.. looking good... and it hits INIT like a brick wall.. bang! - And then freezes.. How very annoying. Bummer :-( a. -Original Message- From: Keith Christian [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 16:51 To: Adam Henson Subject:Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam, Have you looked at the other console windows (I think it's CTRL+ALT+F2 or CTRL+ALT+F3) for clues? You might consider wiping out the partitions by booting into the rescue system which gives a vanilla shell, and trying that. Mandrake 8 *should* install OK. I haven't tried it, but I have installed numerous Linux distributions over the years on a wide range of Toshiba laptops with no problems. Have you called your laptop manufacturer's help line or visited their website for more info? It's frustrating at times, but when installing, there should be some sort of command line option that you could use to install Mandrake. Not sure how to invoke it but it should be there. Good luck! ===Keith Adam Henson wrote: Looks like I'm going to have to abandon all hope of running Mandrake, it won't boot on my laptop, just hangs after the line INIT 2.78. Damn shame, - I was looking forward to that! Does anyone have any ideas I could try? I'm not running any virtual servers or VNC or anything and its not waiting for a password, it just completely hangs. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk
[newbie] Disappointed
Hm.. I have a cdrom.img-2.2.19-BADZ5 and a hd.img-2.2.19-BADZ5.. which one should I use and does anyone know how to use them for an install? Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210
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Yeah, - theres nothing connected to it at all. No fancy devices, no USB no nothing. PCMCIA network card also removed. Plain old laptop. :-( a. -Original Message- From: serafim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 10:20 To: Adam Henson Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappointed Adam Henson wrote: I havent changed anything on the laptop - LM7 ran fine, installed 8 and BOOM - its a dead machine. I mean even such hardware that is connected to the laptop, external hard drive, cd-reader/burner - in short all kinds of suppliancies that connect via usb/parallell port/serial port/firewire/... /Serafim
[newbie] Disappointed - the saga continues
Just looked at the partition tables with partition magic, and it only lists a Linux EXT2 filesystem, and one other partition of hex type 85. Surely this isnt right? When Mandrake installs it repartitions with two data partitions and a swap partition..? Might this be what is causing INIT to hang on bootup? a. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210
[newbie] Disappointed - the saga continues
Damn! No such luck. I repartitioned the drive with two ext2 partitions and a swap partition and reinstalled LM8. STILL no joy.. hangs on INIT 2.78. Is there no way of getting Mandrake running? :-( Someone pleeease help! a. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210
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On Friday 01 June 2001 14:46, Adam Henson wrote: Just looked at the partition tables with partition magic, and it only lists a Linux EXT2 filesystem, and one other partition of hex type 85. Surely this isnt right? When Mandrake installs it repartitions with two data partitions and a swap partition..? Might this be what is causing INIT to hang on bootup? a. Adam Henson Facts Helpdesk Advisor Meggitt Petroleum Systems Tel : 02476 69 Fax:02476 418210 OK, that may explain a lot. I need more information on your machine. Try this Put in the CD type F1 as soon as the splash screen appears then type rescue without the quotes. When it comes up, do fdisk -l /dev/hda And record the information then dmesg | less and record down to and including IDE drive identification. Let's see what you have. I smell a disk geometry error. Civileme
