Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-12 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Firstly, try mounting your zip drive with Mandrake 7's supermount utility. My
parallel port zip drive is currently set up in fstab as
/mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/zip 0 0

I haven't tried this (I haven't needed to), but I vaguely remember that you can
replace the filesystem part (in the above example it is vfat) with "auto"
(without the quotes). So in other words my line would look like
/mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/zip 0 0

The "auto" argument is supposed to make Linux check what filesystem you have
each time you read a disc, and act accordingly. I could be totally wrong about
this since I havent tried it, but it's worth a shot. If auto doesn't work with
supermount then try it with a normal mount.


On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 
  You can mount both types, but only one at a time.
  Paul
 
 Hi Paul. You did say (in an earlier message) that I could try another
 line in /etc/fstab, in addition to the regular vfat line, right? Some
 thing like:
 
 /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zipvfat user,noauto0 0
 /dev/hdd1 /mnt/zipext2 user,noauto0 0
 
 I'll try that as soon as I logoff. BTW, some people are wondering why
 the bother, why not just stick with vfat since it works cross-platform
 and the answer is; well-I want to be able to backup all my .* files in
 my home directory, and not lose all my permissions. Isn't the ext2 fs
 more efficient than vfat/DOS anyways?
 
 Thanks again!
 
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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-11 Thread Mike Tracy Holt



 Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

  I don't think that you can because you're actually mounting one block
  device.  You would somehow have to create two partitions on the one
  block device and I think you would be running into to many problems.
  Why not just make the whole thing dos and you would be able to access it
  from both windows and linux?
 
  Am I understanding your question correctly?
  Mike

 Hi Mike. Thanks for the reply. Well, I don't mean two FS types on the
 same Zip cartridge. I mean, the ability to change out (in one session
 without logging out), a vfat Zip cartridge, and then put in an ext2 Zip
 cartridge. I CAN do this as root, right now. A right-click as root on
 the Zip icon on my KDE desktop gives me the option to mount the drive as
 either vfat or ext2. Works like a charm. However, from my normal user
 account, it won't let me mount ext2, because it says only root can use
 "mount". Vfat is the default listing in my fstab file, and it allows my
 normal user to use vfat Zip cartridges. It just won't let me use ext2.
 ;-(

 Maybe my question should really be: How can I let my normal user account
 use "mount" without compromising security? ;-)

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Oh!  I'm sorry,  late nights - you know :-o  Anyway, instead of listing
'vfat' in /etc/fstab, switch the entry to 'auto', you should then be able to
mount any file that your kernel supports.  Formatting may be another story,
but if the file system already exits, then you should be able to mount, etc.

Mike




Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Paul wrote:

 You can mount both types, but only one at a time.
 Paul

Hi Paul. You did say (in an earlier message) that I could try another
line in /etc/fstab, in addition to the regular vfat line, right? Some
thing like:

/dev/hdd4   /mnt/zipvfat user,noauto0 0
/dev/hdd1   /mnt/zipext2 user,noauto0 0

I'll try that as soon as I logoff. BTW, some people are wondering why
the bother, why not just stick with vfat since it works cross-platform
and the answer is; well-I want to be able to backup all my .* files in
my home directory, and not lose all my permissions. Isn't the ext2 fs
more efficient than vfat/DOS anyways?

Thanks again!

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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-08 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 I don't think that you can because you're actually mounting one block
 device.  You would somehow have to create two partitions on the one
 block device and I think you would be running into to many problems.
 Why not just make the whole thing dos and you would be able to access it
 from both windows and linux?
 
 Am I understanding your question correctly?
 Mike

Hi Mike. Thanks for the reply. Well, I don't mean two FS types on the
same Zip cartridge. I mean, the ability to change out (in one session
without logging out), a vfat Zip cartridge, and then put in an ext2 Zip
cartridge. I CAN do this as root, right now. A right-click as root on
the Zip icon on my KDE desktop gives me the option to mount the drive as
either vfat or ext2. Works like a charm. However, from my normal user
account, it won't let me mount ext2, because it says only root can use
"mount". Vfat is the default listing in my fstab file, and it allows my
normal user to use vfat Zip cartridges. It just won't let me use ext2.
;-(

Maybe my question should really be: How can I let my normal user account
use "mount" without compromising security? ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-07 Thread Paul

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 Is it possible to mount a Zip drive with 2 filesystems? In other words,
 both ext2 and vfat? I have mine setup where you (as root) can
 right-click on the Zip icon and pick either fs type. However, my user
 account can not do this, because you must be su to use mount. It will
 only allow my user access to the fs type in the /etc/fstab file. (the
 user,noauto option in the fstab zip entry line).

I don't think that you can because you're actually mounting one block
device.  You would somehow have to create two partitions on the one
block device and I think you would be running into to many problems. 
Why not just make the whole thing dos and you would be able to access it
from both windows and linux?

You can mount both types, but only one at a time.
Paul

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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-06 Thread poogle

I've got a very similar problem with my LS120, I can only access ext2 formats
as user, need to be root to access vfat or msdos. I suspect that it is
something to do with vfat (and msdos) files having no ownership permissions
which could lead to security issues if users had access to vfat files.
The answer for both of us will probably be the same, so I will watch for
messages which refer to your subject, you might find an answer in messages with
my subject.
Poogle

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Is it possible to mount a Zip drive with 2 filesystems? In other words,
 both ext2 and vfat? I have mine setup where you (as root) can
 right-click on the Zip icon and pick either fs type. However, my user
 account can not do this, because you must be su to use mount. It will
 only allow my user access to the fs type in the /etc/fstab file. (the
 user,noauto option in the fstab zip entry line).
 
 Thanks, as always! ;-)
 
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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-05 Thread Paul

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

Is it possible to mount a Zip drive with 2 filesystems? In other words,
both ext2 and vfat? I have mine setup where you (as root) can
right-click on the Zip icon and pick either fs type. However, my user
account can not do this, because you must be su to use mount. It will
only allow my user access to the fs type in the /etc/fstab file. (the
user,noauto option in the fstab zip entry line).

Set one line in fstab to /dev/drive4 for accessing vfat, 
and the other to /dev/drive1 for accessing ext2.

That should work. Never tried it, all my disks so far are still vfat.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-05 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

"Ronald J. Hall" wrote:
 
 Is it possible to mount a Zip drive with 2 filesystems? In other words,
 both ext2 and vfat? I have mine setup where you (as root) can
 right-click on the Zip icon and pick either fs type. However, my user
 account can not do this, because you must be su to use mount. It will
 only allow my user access to the fs type in the /etc/fstab file. (the
 user,noauto option in the fstab zip entry line).
 
 Thanks, as always! ;-)
 
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I don't think that you can because you're actually mounting one block
device.  You would somehow have to create two partitions on the one
block device and I think you would be running into to many problems. 
Why not just make the whole thing dos and you would be able to access it
from both windows and linux?

Am I understanding your question correctly?
Mike




[newbie] Dual fs's on a Zip drive?

2000-08-03 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Is it possible to mount a Zip drive with 2 filesystems? In other words,
both ext2 and vfat? I have mine setup where you (as root) can
right-click on the Zip icon and pick either fs type. However, my user
account can not do this, because you must be su to use mount. It will
only allow my user access to the fs type in the /etc/fstab file. (the
user,noauto option in the fstab zip entry line).

Thanks, as always! ;-)

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