Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread ed tharp

 
 what is with this 'OT' list? are you meaning adding of '[OT]' to 'subject:' line,
 or does mandrake have another mailing list?
 
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RE: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread Burrows, Scott
Is this list moderated?  Time to put Farm Boy out to pasture. :)

Listen, I love tomatoes as much as the next guy but go hug a tree on your
own time cuz we're here to talk about Linux. :)

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods


 ** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes,
 he gets testy ;-))

Fresh cooked meal of Wisconsin raised organic veggies and cheese to any list

member who stops by for a visit :)
Zucchini, sweet peppers, onions, mushrooms, tomatoes sauteed in olive oil
with 
melted cheese on top!


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread Cornerstone Community Farm
The crooked lawyers and judges i bust have been trying for years to put me out 
to pasture...I'm not going anywhere :)

Please re-read my posts instead of whining about what I've already explained 
to you!

On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:24 am, Burrows, Scott wrote:
 Is this list moderated?  Time to put Farm Boy out to pasture. :)

 Listen, I love tomatoes as much as the next guy but go hug a tree on your
 own time cuz we're here to talk about Linux. :)


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread Aron Smith
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:13 am, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 The crooked lawyers and judges i bust have been trying for years to put me
 out to pasture...I'm not going anywhere :)

 Please re-read my posts instead of whining about what I've already
 explained to you!

 On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:24 am, Burrows, Scott wrote:
  Is this list moderated?  Time to put Farm Boy out to pasture. :)
 
  Listen, I love tomatoes as much as the next guy but go hug a tree on your
  own time cuz we're here to talk about Linux. :)
Did oo not get your JOLT cola this morning :-)


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RE: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread Duron . Davis
Homegrown tomatoes,
Homegrown tomatoes,
What would life be without Homegrown tomatoes?
There's just two things that money can't buy
And that's true love and homegrown tomatoes.
-Guy Clark

-Original Message-
From: Lanman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods


Uh, Nope! But I'll take your word for it! Thought maybe someone had made an
honest mistake and posted to the wrong list.

Lanman

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/28/2003 at 8:48 AM Aron Smith wrote:

On Monday 28 July 2003 08:03 am, Lanman wrote:
 Just a tad off-topic??

 Lanman
** Not Really Havent you heard that The only Good Things in Life are
True
Love N' Homegrowm Tomaters? :-

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 In general, we know far too little about them.
 (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically)
 I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US.
 They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food  drug admin.).
 BUT...
 they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is
 mostly
 guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know.
 WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods
 of of
 plant breeding...
 In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON
 hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next
 years
 crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import
 expensive hybrids.
 In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom
 varities.
 This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow
 with
 stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a
 couple
 of weeks:)
 Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate
in a
 given year.
 Keith
 
 
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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread James R. McKenzie
Here, Here!  Podunks of America UNITE

T H A N KY O U

   James R. McKenzie

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Cornerstone Community Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods


 The crooked lawyers and judges i bust have been trying for years
to put me out
 to pasture...I'm not going anywhere :)

 Please re-read my posts instead of whining about what I've
already explained
 to you!

 On Tuesday 29 July 2003 08:24 am, Burrows, Scott wrote:
  Is this list moderated?  Time to put Farm Boy out to pasture.
:)
 
  Listen, I love tomatoes as much as the next guy but go hug a
tree on your
  own time cuz we're here to talk about Linux. :)





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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-29 Thread Robin Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Uh, Nope! But I'll take your word for it! Thought maybe someone had made an
honest mistake and posted to the wrong list.
That was indeed what happened.  Therewas a question on the OT list what 
do you think about GM food and the person who inadvertently started 
this thread mis-addressed his reply.

Oh well, arguing about tomatoes may waste bandwidth, but it's better 
than arguing about Communism ;-)

Sir Robin
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There are other rules, but you'll find out what those are when you 
break them.
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[newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Cornerstone Community Farm
In general, we know far too little about them.
(i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically)
I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US.
They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food  drug admin.).
BUT...
they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is mostly 
guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know.
WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods of of 
plant breeding...
In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON 
hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next years 
crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import 
expensive hybrids.
In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom 
varities.
This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow with 
stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a couple 
of weeks:)
Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a 
given year.
Keith

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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:03 am, Lanman wrote:
 Just a tad off-topic??

 Lanman
** Not Really Havent you heard that The only Good Things in Life are True 
Love N' Homegrowm Tomaters? :-

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 In general, we know far too little about them.
 (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically)
 I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US.
 They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food  drug admin.).
 BUT...
 they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is
 mostly
 guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know.
 WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods
 of of
 plant breeding...
 In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON
 hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next
 years
 crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import
 expensive hybrids.
 In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom
 varities.
 This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow
 with
 stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a
 couple
 of weeks:)
 Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a
 given year.
 Keith
 
 
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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Cornerstone Community Farm
 With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux?
 This is a linux list.

1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to 
this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but 
we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.
:)



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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:02 pm, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 In general, we know far too little about them.

Posted to the wrong list, perhaps?

Anne

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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread JM5379
or perhaps the announcement of OSE (open source edibles)


--- Original Message ---
From: Cornerstone Community Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods

 With all due respect, but what does that have to do with
Mandrake Linux?
 This is a linux list.

1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted
in error to 
this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic
discussions, but 
we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.
:)






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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Lanman
Uh, Nope! But I'll take your word for it! Thought maybe someone had made an honest 
mistake and posted to the wrong list.

Lanman

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 7/28/2003 at 8:48 AM Aron Smith wrote:

On Monday 28 July 2003 08:03 am, Lanman wrote:
 Just a tad off-topic??

 Lanman
** Not Really Havent you heard that The only Good Things in Life are
True
Love N' Homegrowm Tomaters? :-

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 In general, we know far too little about them.
 (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically)
 I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US.
 They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food  drug admin.).
 BUT...
 they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is
 mostly
 guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know.
 WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods
 of of
 plant breeding...
 In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON
 hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next
 years
 crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import
 expensive hybrids.
 In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom
 varities.
 This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow
 with
 stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a
 couple
 of weeks:)
 Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate
in a
 given year.
 Keith
 
 
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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Michael Adams
I suspect a mispost error originating between the keyboard and seat.
LOL

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:03:20 -0400
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a tad off-topic??
 
 Lanman
 
 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
 
 On 7/28/2003 at 9:02 AM Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
 
 In general, we know far too little about them.
 (i'm far from an expert on this topic)(but DO farm organically)
 I do know they are not allowed on certified organic farms in the US.
 They are approved in the U.S. by the FDA (food  drug admin.).
 BUT...
 they also approve of certain level of pesticides in people, and that is
 mostly
 guess work and a BIG gamble...There is too much we do not know.
 WE CAN work on drought resistant varieties thru more traditional methods
 of of
 plant breeding...
 In my personal belief, I'm much more inclined to argue for use of NON
 hybrid's, chiefly because one can use the seeds harvested to plant next
 years
 crop...IMO a great help for poor countries as they do not have to import
 expensive hybrids.
 In the circles I travel in, there is a growing movement to heirloom
 varities.
 This year I'm growing a heirloom tomato, called stripey...it is yellow
 with
 stripes, as supposed to be of SUPERIOR taste...(I'll let you know in a
 couple
 of weeks:)
 Of course, taste will VARY GREATLY, depending on the soil and climate in a
 given year.
 Keith
 


-- 
Michael

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RE: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Burrows, Scott
The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
but 
we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list

Are you kidding?  You dont think your original post was not a long-winded
diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with?

I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free this
list for Linux. :)


-Original Message-
From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods


 With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux?
 This is a linux list.

1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to 
this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions, but

we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.
:)




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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:08 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote:
 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,

 but

 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list

 Are you kidding?  You dont think your original post was not a long-winded
 diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with?

 I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free
 this list for Linux. :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods

  With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux?
  This is a linux list.

 1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to
 this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
 2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
 but

 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.

 :)
** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes,
he gets testy ;-))


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Cornerstone Community Farm
1.  Original post was in error (please re-read earlier post)...As I said THEN, 
it was meant for the OT list, where we have an on-going discussion on this 
topic.
2.  This list has ALWAYS had fun minor diversions...Even BEFORE the OT list.
Some of the minor diversions have been quite long winded (and heated!)
You just missed a long discussion about this.
99% +  of bytes are direct Linux
I think you can deal with the 1%  :)

Other lists ALSO have OT off shoots at times.
Life is not one dimentional...If you can not handle this, filter, or choose 
ignore thread in your mail reader!  If you stick around, you will find lots 
of fun and creative thank you emails and generally fun comments, articles, 
web sites, recreational tidbits, etc. in the context of each person 
contributing to the list.

On Monday 28 July 2003 02:08 pm, Burrows, Scott wrote:
 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,

 but

 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list

 Are you kidding?  You dont think your original post was not a long-winded
 diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with?

 I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free
 this list for Linux. :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods

  With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux?
  This is a linux list.

 1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to
 this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
 2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
 but

 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.

 :)


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Networks East
I agree,  go find a veggie list to discuss this in


- Original Message - 
From: Burrows, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:08 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] GMO foods


 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
 but
 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list

 Are you kidding?  You dont think your original post was not a long-winded
 diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with?

 I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free
this
 list for Linux. :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods


  With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake Linux?
  This is a linux list.

 1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error to
 this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error.
 2.  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
 The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
but

 we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.
 :)











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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread crak600
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:02 pm, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
  In general, we know far too little about them.

 Posted to the wrong list, perhaps?

 Anne

at least it isn't more bashing and name calling about personal standpoints on 
political topics!  lol


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:20 pm, Networks East wrote:
 I agree,  go find a veggie list to discuss this in
**n No way will i go to a windows list! :-)


 - Original Message -
 From: Burrows, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:08 PM
 Subject: RE: [newbie] GMO foods

  The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,
 
  but
 
  we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list
 
  Are you kidding?  You dont think your original post was not a long-winded
  diatribe about certain vegtables you appear to have problems with?
 
  I'm just saying you should take that stuff to the tomatoe list and free

 this

  list for Linux. :)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cornerstone Community Farm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:54 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] GMO foods
 
   With all due respect, but what does that have to do with Mandrake
   Linux? This is a linux list.
 
  1.  With all due respect, looking at the subject line I posted in error
  to this list and earlier posted to OT list when i realized my error. 2. 
  Obviously you are new to this list so I'll explain:
  The Linux list sometimes delves into all kinds of off-topic discussions,

 but

  we try to take the long-winded talks private or to the OT list.
 
  :)

 ---
- 


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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread Cornerstone Community Farm
 ** See what happens when ya don't share them homgrown tomatoes,
 he gets testy ;-))

Fresh cooked meal of Wisconsin raised organic veggies and cheese to any list 
member who stops by for a visit :)
Zucchini, sweet peppers, onions, mushrooms, tomatoes sauteed in olive oil with 
melted cheese on top!

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Re: [newbie] GMO foods

2003-07-28 Thread g


Cornerstone Community Farm wrote:
1.  Original post was in error
ccf,

to most, myself included, your post was an obvious error, and accepted as such,
and also found interesting, as i also grow tomatoes.
what is of questionable acceptance, are some of replies with unnecessary quoting
of your entire post and other's post.
it was meant for the OT list, where we have an on-going discussion on this 
topic.
what is with this 'OT' list? are you meaning adding of '[OT]' to 'subject:' line,
or does mandrake have another mailing list?
peace out.

tc,hago.

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