Re: [newbie] General firewall getting started type questions

2001-12-11 Thread Brian Parish

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 12:22 pm, you wrote:
 On Monday 10 December 2001 20:15, you wrote:
   Brian, LM installs the tinyfirewall by default. This is a very basic
   install of Bastille so you do not need to uninstall or turn it off.
   Just bring up a console and su to root, then  change directory by 
   typing cd /sbin without the quotes and from the prompt. Then again
   from the prompt type
   InteractiveBastille without the quotes and just as I show it. This
   will start the Bastille install, you can do it from KDE or single user
   mode, but I prefer KDE cause it is nicer looking.  :  )  anyhow, when
   it asks about packet forwarding you can use that if you have a LAN
   setup, otherwise I don't believe you need it.  When it gets to the file
   limits question say no, it will screw up your ability to su from a user
   console. Come back if you have questions. HTH
 
  Hmmm.  InteractiveBastille results in this output:
 
  [root@server sbin]# InteractiveBastille
  Using Tk user interface module.
  Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration.
  Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib /usr/lib/pe
  rl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
  /i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr
  /lib/perl5/site_perl/ /usr/lib/Bastille) at /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastill
  e line 276.
  [root@server sbin]#
 
  I don't think that's what you had in mind.
 
  thanks
  Brian

 Ok, that's cause you don't have Bastille-Tk-module installed. Pick it up
 off of your software manager and then try it again.  Should go like clock
 work.

Well, after having shot myself in the foot by  failing to list eth0 as a 
trusted interface and thereby denying myself access to my usually 
keyboardless, mouseless, screenless server, and then having attached a 
keyboard etc and reversed this, I am Bastilled.  Thanks muchly to all who 
responded. (including Frank - yes I'll check out gShield too).

/Brian



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[newbie] General firewall getting started type questions

2001-12-10 Thread Brian Parish

OK, time to get serious about this frewall stuff!

I installed 8.1 with the server defaults.  It seems that this has resulted in 
some kind of firewall, because when I turned on internet connection sharing 
it warned me that a firewall was in place and that I might have to do some 
manual tweaking.

From the traffic on this list it seems that Bastille would be a reasonable 
choice and that there are enough interactive tools there to get started 
without requiring guru status, so the questions are:  

What did Mandrake install by default?

How do I find out?

Do I need to turn that off before confusing things with a Bastille install?

Is there a standard OK this is just a home LAN with a ppp dialup, so baton 
down the hatches, but don't stop me accessing the web and getting mail 
default that I can start with?

What questions haven't I asked that are absolutely essential and so bloody 
obvious that I should have just known about if only I'd read the manual for 
whatever it is I don't know whether I have? ;-)

thanks as always!

Brian

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Re: [newbie] General firewall getting started type questions

2001-12-10 Thread Derek Jennings

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 00:08, Brian Parish wrote:
 OK, time to get serious about this frewall stuff!

 I installed 8.1 with the server defaults.  It seems that this has resulted
 in some kind of firewall, because when I turned on internet connection
 sharing it warned me that a firewall was in place and that I might have to
 do some manual tweaking.

 From the traffic on this list it seems that Bastille would be a reasonable
 choice and that there are enough interactive tools there to get started
 without requiring guru status, so the questions are:

 What did Mandrake install by default?

 How do I find out?

 Do I need to turn that off before confusing things with a Bastille install?

 Is there a standard OK this is just a home LAN with a ppp dialup, so baton
 down the hatches, but don't stop me accessing the web and getting mail
 default that I can start with?

 What questions haven't I asked that are absolutely essential and so bloody
 obvious that I should have just known about if only I'd read the manual for
 whatever it is I don't know whether I have? ;-)

 thanks as always!

 Brian

Well there are plenty of Firewalls you could have installed.
Tiny Firewall
BastilleChooser
InteractiveBastille

They all basically do the same thing. Set up IPTables
There was a nice article on www.mandrakeforum.org today on the subject. It 
tells you where the firewall config files are, and how to edit them by hand 
if you want to.

FWIW the Tiny Firewall will do a simple home user just fine.
A good place to test it is here.
http://scan.sygatetech.com/

HTH

Derek





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Re: [newbie] General firewall getting started type questions

2001-12-10 Thread Dennis Myers

On Monday 10 December 2001 19:08, you wrote:
 OK, time to get serious about this frewall stuff!

 I installed 8.1 with the server defaults.  It seems that this has resulted
 in some kind of firewall, because when I turned on internet connection
 sharing it warned me that a firewall was in place and that I might have to
 do some manual tweaking.

 From the traffic on this list it seems that Bastille would be a reasonable
 choice and that there are enough interactive tools there to get started
 without requiring guru status, so the questions are:

 What did Mandrake install by default?

 How do I find out?

 Do I need to turn that off before confusing things with a Bastille install?

 Is there a standard OK this is just a home LAN with a ppp dialup, so baton
 down the hatches, but don't stop me accessing the web and getting mail
 default that I can start with?

 What questions haven't I asked that are absolutely essential and so bloody
 obvious that I should have just known about if only I'd read the manual for
 whatever it is I don't know whether I have? ;-)

 thanks as always!

 Brian
Brian, LM installs the tinyfirewall by default. This is a very basic install 
of Bastille so you do not need to uninstall or turn it off. Just bring up a 
console and su to root, then  change directory by  typing cd /sbin without 
the quotes and from the prompt. Then again from the prompt type 
InteractiveBastille without the quotes and just as I show it. This will 
start the Bastille install, you can do it from KDE or single user mode, but I 
prefer KDE cause it is nicer looking.  :  )  anyhow, when it asks about 
packet forwarding you can use that if you have a LAN setup, otherwise I don't 
believe you need it.  When it gets to the file limits question say no, it 
will screw up your ability to su from a user console.  Come back if you have 
questions. HTH
-- 
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RE: [newbie] General firewall getting started type questions

2001-12-10 Thread Franki

if I were you, I'd download gShield (do a google search)

its really easy, there is only one file to download, and it asks questions
that require one word answers..

and it can do anything you want, port forwarding and such.. its the closest
I have found to pmfirewall on my long search for a decent iptables firewall.

if however you wish to use the mandrake provided firewalls,you can use the
mandrake control center and it will install the packages for you..

do you have a bastille directory in /etc???
rgds

Frank

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OK, time to get serious about this frewall stuff!

I installed 8.1 with the server defaults.  It seems that this has resulted
in
some kind of firewall, because when I turned on internet connection sharing
it warned me that a firewall was in place and that I might have to do some
manual tweaking.

From the traffic on this list it seems that Bastille would be a reasonable
choice and that there are enough interactive tools there to get started
without requiring guru status, so the questions are:

What did Mandrake install by default?

How do I find out?

Do I need to turn that off before confusing things with a Bastille install?

Is there a standard OK this is just a home LAN with a ppp dialup, so baton
down the hatches, but don't stop me accessing the web and getting mail
default that I can start with?

What questions haven't I asked that are absolutely essential and so bloody
obvious that I should have just known about if only I'd read the manual for
whatever it is I don't know whether I have? ;-)

thanks as always!

Brian

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