Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:28, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 09:13, Margot wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) I've never heard of this, but I'm all in favour of recycling. I've got a couple of old 386's lurking under the bed, and a selection of keyboards and mouses (mice?). What sort of clothes do you think I could make? Margot The interview is great. I've just read it. To me, it's inevitable to look at Mr Stallman and not to imagine a kind of computer Jesus Christ ! :-) (I don't mean to disrespect anybody's faith ! Please !) Margot, you're right. The plural of 'mouse' (i.e., the object you were referring to) is 'mouses'. In my part of the world we refer to more than 1 pointing device as rodents :) Although I'm not a native speaker, I've read lots of texts on Linguistics. I recommend the book The Language Instinct by Steven Pinker. It's a wonderful read and not so full of difficult terminologies. Perhaps thats just what we should do here too. Cheers Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Margot, you're right. The plural of 'mouse' (i.e., the object you were referring to) is 'mouses'. I agree. Mice are animals. Mouses are not. Nut I wouldn't get upset about anyone who calls mouses mice. So long as they don't call viruses virii! Sir Robin the Pedant -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) I've never heard of this, but I'm all in favour of recycling. I've got a couple of old 386's lurking under the bed, and a selection of keyboards and mouses (mice?). What sort of clothes do you think I could make? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Friday 14 November 2003 09:13, Margot wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) I've never heard of this, but I'm all in favour of recycling. I've got a couple of old 386's lurking under the bed, and a selection of keyboards and mouses (mice?). What sort of clothes do you think I could make? Margot The interview is great. I've just read it. To me, it's inevitable to look at Mr Stallman and not to imagine a kind of computer Jesus Christ ! :-) (I don't mean to disrespect anybody's faith ! Please !) Margot, you're right. The plural of 'mouse' (i.e., the object you were referring to) is 'mouses'. Although I'm not a native speaker, I've read lots of texts on Linguistics. I recommend the book The Language Instinct by Steven Pinker. It's a wonderful read and not so full of difficult terminologies. Cheers ! -- JM http://cyb.ezdir.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:28:51PM -0200, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 09:13, Margot wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) I've never heard of this, but I'm all in favour of recycling. I've got a couple of old 386's lurking under the bed, and a selection of keyboards and mouses (mice?). What sort of clothes do you think I could make? Margot The interview is great. I've just read it. To me, it's inevitable to look at Mr Stallman and not to imagine a kind of computer Jesus Christ ! :-) (I don't mean to disrespect anybody's faith ! Please !) Margot, you're right. The plural of 'mouse' (i.e., the object you were referring to) is 'mouses'. I agree. Mice are animals. Mouses are not. Nut I wouldn't get upset about anyone who calls mouses mice. Although I'm not a native speaker, I've read lots of texts on Linguistics. I recommend the book The Language Instinct by Steven Pinker. It's a wonderful read and not so full of difficult terminologies. Though I.m not quite a native speaker either (learned English at the age of 5 by moving to an English-speaking part of Canada. But I speak English better than Dutch, which is my native language.) -- hendrik Cheers ! -- JM http://cyb.ezdir.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 08:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: Stallman's answers really strike a chord with me, though I have to say I think his stance on Debian is a bit much. Anyway, he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=260 Can FS users be apolitical, can we separate politics from our choice of an OS? Or maybe the question should be, can we *risk* being apolitical when our choice of OS is under attack so to speak? I was fortunate enough to hear RMS speak on a Linux Lunacy tour a few years ago. Awesome stuff, I was really impressed. Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:09:19 -0500, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 08:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: Stallman's answers really strike a chord with me, though I have to say I think his stance on Debian is a bit much. Anyway, he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=260 Can FS users be apolitical, can we separate politics from our choice of an OS? Or maybe the question should be, can we *risk* being apolitical when our choice of OS is under attack so to speak? I was fortunate enough to hear RMS speak on a Linux Lunacy tour a few years ago. Awesome stuff, I was really impressed. Saw him in Sheffield a few weeks ago. He spoke for nearly two hours without notes, and without hesitation, repetition or deviation. Unfortunately the talk was about European Software Patents, which is inherently boring, but even so I'm glad I saw him. I'd hoped to smuggle my five month old daughter in, in case some of the genius rubbed off, but she's discovered yodelling. Richard -- Art is not a reproducible result. Creativity is a profoundly subjective act. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Great Interview with RMS
Stallman's answers really strike a chord with me, though I have to say I think his stance on Debian is a bit much. Anyway, he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=260 Can FS users be apolitical, can we separate politics from our choice of an OS? Or maybe the question should be, can we *risk* being apolitical when our choice of OS is under attack so to speak? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Due to circumstances beyond your control, you are master of your fate and captain of your soul. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 08:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: Stallman's answers really strike a chord with me, though I have to say I think his stance on Debian is a bit much. Anyway, he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=260 Can FS users be apolitical, can we separate politics from our choice of an OS? Or maybe the question should be, can we *risk* being apolitical when our choice of OS is under attack so to speak? I was fortunate enough to hear RMS speak on a Linux Lunacy tour a few years ago. Awesome stuff, I was really impressed. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
HaywireMac wrote: he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. Sorry but I didn't see what the linkage was, though I didn't have time to read the lot. Give us your assessment of his statement that links it . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:26:09 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Sorry but I didn't see what the linkage was, though I didn't have time to read the lot. That *would* be a problem ;-) Give us your assessment of his statement that links it . The last paragraph, for your convenience: A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately the ethical thing to do is to resist the system and put an end to it. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The savior becomes the victim. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
