Re: [newbie] How daunting is a kernel upgrade?

1999-09-04 Thread Richard Adams

On Thu, 02 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 Hi all-
 
 There's been lots of discussion here about kernel upgrades, and it seems
 to be a pretty daunting task to me, as a relatively new linux user but a
 pretty confident and competent computer user in general.
Updating a kernel is easy and as long as one reads
/usr/src/linux/README then theres not a lot that can go wrong, unless
you choose NOT to install all the needed tools and development stuff
at install time, which is the biggest ptoblem for modt folks.
 
 My case is that I'm running Mandrake 6.0 and would like to upgrade the
 kernel to get rid of some of those mount/unmount errors that have been
 described here already. Is the best upgrade for me the one at cooker
 (kernel-2.2.11-2mdk.src.rpm), as opposed to the multitude of files I find
 at kernel.org? Is it preferable for me to stick to a Mandrake release of
 any given kernel?

I myself never just change from 0ne ditro to another, i install a new
distro on a new partition and see how it works first then decided if
is worthy of consuming room on my disks.


 
 I guess what I'm looking for is a slightly more hands-on howto (I have
 read the kernel howtos, and what keeps me from simply following the
 directions is that, knowing how crucial the kernel is, I just don't want
 to botch it), and at this point, there seem to be an awful lot of starting
 places (cooker, kernel.org, the new cassini test, and so on). Those of you
 who are familiar with this, can you offer a little guidance? I don't need
 hand-holding so much as just an indication that if I, for example, start
 with the cooker kernel, I'll be on the right track. 

If you want a hold my hand  and help me approch, contact me
personaly, i will then send step by step instructions on hotwto do it
all and which docs to read.


 
 Thanks much-
 - alan
 
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Regards Richard
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Re: [newbie] How daunting is a kernel upgrade?

1999-09-03 Thread Gerry Doyon

I would say that as long as you have a good boot disk and/or have a copy of the
old kernel on the hard disk that you should go ahead and crank yourself a new
kernel.

I was also a little intimidated my first couple tries.  After all I thought to
myself, I don't want to have to re-install the whole dang operating system if I
can' boot anymore !  The "toughest" part of the whole thing was running
configure to set up what options you want rolled in to the kernel. And, is it
better to make it part of the kernel itself or make it a loadable module? 
Practice makes perfect. Or, in my case, competent I think.

On Thu, 02 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 Hi all-
 
 There's been lots of discussion here about kernel upgrades, and it seems
 to be a pretty daunting task to me, as a relatively new linux user but a
 pretty confident and competent computer user in general.
 
 My case is that I'm running Mandrake 6.0 and would like to upgrade the
 kernel to get rid of some of those mount/unmount errors that have been
 described here already. Is the best upgrade for me the one at cooker
 (kernel-2.2.11-2mdk.src.rpm), as opposed to the multitude of files I find
 at kernel.org? Is it preferable for me to stick to a Mandrake release of
 any given kernel?
 
 I guess what I'm looking for is a slightly more hands-on howto (I have
 read the kernel howtos, and what keeps me from simply following the
 directions is that, knowing how crucial the kernel is, I just don't want
 to botch it), and at this point, there seem to be an awful lot of starting
 places (cooker, kernel.org, the new cassini test, and so on). Those of you
 who are familiar with this, can you offer a little guidance? I don't need
 hand-holding so much as just an indication that if I, for example, start
 with the cooker kernel, I'll be on the right track. 
 
 Thanks much-
 - alan
 
 / note my new email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /



[newbie] How daunting is a kernel upgrade?

1999-09-02 Thread Alan Schussman

Hi all-

There's been lots of discussion here about kernel upgrades, and it seems
to be a pretty daunting task to me, as a relatively new linux user but a
pretty confident and competent computer user in general.

My case is that I'm running Mandrake 6.0 and would like to upgrade the
kernel to get rid of some of those mount/unmount errors that have been
described here already. Is the best upgrade for me the one at cooker
(kernel-2.2.11-2mdk.src.rpm), as opposed to the multitude of files I find
at kernel.org? Is it preferable for me to stick to a Mandrake release of
any given kernel?

I guess what I'm looking for is a slightly more hands-on howto (I have
read the kernel howtos, and what keeps me from simply following the
directions is that, knowing how crucial the kernel is, I just don't want
to botch it), and at this point, there seem to be an awful lot of starting
places (cooker, kernel.org, the new cassini test, and so on). Those of you
who are familiar with this, can you offer a little guidance? I don't need
hand-holding so much as just an indication that if I, for example, start
with the cooker kernel, I'll be on the right track. 

Thanks much-
- alan

/ note my new email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /




Re: [newbie] How daunting is a kernel upgrade?

1999-09-02 Thread Matt Stegman

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Alan  Schussman wrote:
 My case is that I'm running Mandrake 6.0 and would like to upgrade the
 kernel to get rid of some of those mount/unmount errors that have been
 described here already. Is the best upgrade for me the one at cooker
 (kernel-2.2.11-2mdk.src.rpm), as opposed to the multitude of files I find
 at kernel.org? Is it preferable for me to stick to a Mandrake release of
 any given kernel?

Given that Cooker is under development, not exactly kosher Mandrake 6.0,
I'd say that it's safest to go with the 2.2.9 RPMs from the Mandrake
Update icon on your KDE or GNOME desktop.  Now, the 2.2 kernel should be
stable and quite usable in all it's incarnations, and generally the bigger
numbers are better than the smaller ones (bugfixes, etc.).  There probably
wouldn't be any problem with using the 2.2.11 kernel from Cooker, though-
the choice is up to you.

You should know, however, that the .src.rpm file will NOT install the
kernel.  It will install the kernel source, from which you may compile
your own.  If you feel comfortable doing so, then go for it.  If not,
well... you can always keep your old kernel, and boot to that if you have
problems.  Or you could install a kernel binary RPM from Cooker
(don't know which one, I haven't looked.  I'd image it's called
kernel-2.2.11-2mdk.rpm, though).  Given the profuseness of documentation
on the subject, you should be able to find out almost anything you want to
know (about downloading source, compiling  installing, not about
Mandrake kernel RPMs).

-Matt Stegman
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