[newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.

2002-07-28 Thread frankie


Hi guys,

We know that its always better to install rather then upgrade,

But I get really sick of reinstalling endlessly to get the latest stuff..
and I was thinking about that.

Wouldn't it be a fantastic thing if Mandrake created an Export system 
user Settings drake tool.???


and a drake import settings.   this tool would go and collect settings from
running services, users and security, and you could save the config to a
floppy, wipe the drive, reinstall and insert the floppy and run the import
drake, which sets it all up for you again.. (that way you get to have the
latest config files, rather then keeping files like smb.conf and putting it
in the next version..)


what do you guys thing? is that a good idea or what?



rgds

Frank





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Re: [newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.

2002-07-28 Thread Derek Jennings

On Sunday 28 Jul 2002 10:15 am, frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 We know that its always better to install rather then upgrade,

 But I get really sick of reinstalling endlessly to get the latest stuff..
 and I was thinking about that.

 Wouldn't it be a fantastic thing if Mandrake created an Export system 
 user Settings drake tool.???


 and a drake import settings.   this tool would go and collect settings from
 running services, users and security, and you could save the config to a
 floppy, wipe the drive, reinstall and insert the floppy and run the import
 drake, which sets it all up for you again.. (that way you get to have the
 latest config files, rather then keeping files like smb.conf and putting it
 in the next version..)


 what do you guys thing? is that a good idea or what?



 rgds

 Frank

Well there is already the little known drakbackup tool. It will save your /etc 
and /home in incremental backups to a file system, or nfs, or ftp

It works pretty well apart from the daemon mode which has a bug.
It is on the drakxtools RPM

Having never had to use it to do a restore, I am not sure it could selectively 
restore an individual config file, but being written in a scripting language, 
it would not be difficult to add functionality to it.

derek



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Re: [newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.

2002-07-28 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Sunday 28 Jul 2002 10:15 am, frankie wrote:

 We know that its always better to install rather then upgrade,

 But I get really sick of reinstalling endlessly to get the latest stuff..
 and I was thinking about that.

 Wouldn't it be a fantastic thing if Mandrake created an Export system 
 user Settings drake tool.???


 and a drake import settings.   this tool would go and collect settings from
 running services, users and security, and you could save the config to a
 floppy, wipe the drive, reinstall and insert the floppy and run the import
 drake, which sets it all up for you again.. (that way you get to have the
 latest config files, rather then keeping files like smb.conf and putting it
 in the next version..)

 what do you guys thing? is that a good idea or what?

I wrote a shell script which copies various files to a directory, then 
.tar.bz2.gpg's it, then copies it to a remote server. This does an excellent 
job without effort.

The system configuration (services, security, configuration files) is fine and 
worth doing, but package configuration is another matter. The problem with 
Linux is choice: you can't assume people will use certain packages. I'm sure 
most use kmail or Evolution in some sense, but the percentage is definitely 
not as high as that of Windows users who use Outlook Express (from the 
contents of my mailbox, easily 95 per cent; there are progressively fewer and 
fewer people using Eudora, for one).

drakbackup looks interesting though :)

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.

2002-07-28 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, frankie wrote:

 
 Hi guys,
 
 We know that its always better to install rather then upgrade,
 
 But I get really sick of reinstalling endlessly to get the latest stuff..
 and I was thinking about that.
 
 Wouldn't it be a fantastic thing if Mandrake created an Export system 
 user Settings drake tool.???
 
 
 and a drake import settings.   this tool would go and collect settings from
 running services, users and security, and you could save the config to a
 floppy, wipe the drive, reinstall and insert the floppy and run the import
 drake, which sets it all up for you again.. (that way you get to have the
 latest config files, rather then keeping files like smb.conf and putting it
 in the next version..)
 
 
 what do you guys thing? is that a good idea or what?

I like it! Especially if you had some control over what it looked for, say 
like a gui panel where you could enter in the services that you use, etc.



 
 
 
 rgds
 
 Frank
 
 
 
 


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RE: [newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.

2002-07-28 Thread frankie

a list of the things you can save pops up, and you tick the box's of those
things that you want to keep..

the basic stuff would be:

security.
postfix.
apache.
kde  gnome
related apps.
kmail mozilla etc etc..

just the usuauls...

and  any settings that are the defaults would not need to be saved..

Then we could all reinstall every 6 months and have the new install
configured just as the old one was with no effort at all..


wonderful  :-)

now, how do we convince mandrake that its fantastic to have the latest
version, but its a pain to have to reconfigure everything every 6 months to
get it..


rgds

Frank

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Hows this for an idea for Mandrake.


On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, frankie wrote:


 Hi guys,

 We know that its always better to install rather then upgrade,

 But I get really sick of reinstalling endlessly to get the latest stuff..
 and I was thinking about that.

 Wouldn't it be a fantastic thing if Mandrake created an Export system 
 user Settings drake tool.???


 and a drake import settings.   this tool would go and collect settings
from
 running services, users and security, and you could save the config to a
 floppy, wipe the drive, reinstall and insert the floppy and run the import
 drake, which sets it all up for you again.. (that way you get to have the
 latest config files, rather then keeping files like smb.conf and putting
it
 in the next version..)


 what do you guys thing? is that a good idea or what?

I like it! Especially if you had some control over what it looked for, say
like a gui panel where you could enter in the services that you use, etc.






 rgds

 Frank








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