Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 11:52:48 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. This is very important. It is *nice* that there is a workaround with Konq or Opera, but it is not the answer. These institutions must be told in very clear terms that it is a violation of a customer's right to choose their own software when they require IE. There is no technical reason to require it (well, shit, quite the opposite really), any of the browsers available out there are capable of the necessary encryption levels. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ When the speaker and he to whom he is speaks do not understand, that is metaphysics. -- Voltaire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:18 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 11:52:48 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. This is very important. It is *nice* that there is a workaround with Konq or Opera, but it is not the answer. These institutions must be told in very clear terms that it is a violation of a customer's right to choose their own software when they require IE. There is no technical reason to require it (well, shit, quite the opposite really), any of the browsers available out there are capable of the necessary encryption levels. Use whatever works. It goes against the grain to pretend to use IE, but if that's what it takes, use it. After that, I agree that you should complain to the bank. Some do listen, even if they don't always seem to. Recently I discovered a serious flaw in the design of HSBC's on-line banking, when used with Mozilla. I spoke to the Mozilla programmers, who helped me identify the problem, then alerted the bank. They started with the stock 'We don't support Linux, or Mozilla', but went on to say that they had passed my comments to their programmers, for consideration in the next update. I really expected that to be the end of the matter, but last week, around a month after I told them about it, the fault had disappeared. They obviously had tackled the problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
Now if I could just get o2 and bts websites working in mozilla I'd be a much happier chappy I like using one browser for everything not haveing to use konquoror for stuff. Mike Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:18 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 11:52:48 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. This is very important. It is *nice* that there is a workaround with Konq or Opera, but it is not the answer. These institutions must be told in very clear terms that it is a violation of a customer's right to choose their own software when they require IE. There is no technical reason to require it (well, shit, quite the opposite really), any of the browsers available out there are capable of the necessary encryption levels. Use whatever works. It goes against the grain to pretend to use IE, but if that's what it takes, use it. After that, I agree that you should complain to the bank. Some do listen, even if they don't always seem to. Recently I discovered a serious flaw in the design of HSBC's on-line banking, when used with Mozilla. I spoke to the Mozilla programmers, who helped me identify the problem, then alerted the bank. They started with the stock 'We don't support Linux, or Mozilla', but went on to say that they had passed my comments to their programmers, for consideration in the next update. I really expected that to be the end of the matter, but last week, around a month after I told them about it, the fault had disappeared. They obviously had tackled the problem. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
Eric Huff wrote: I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them. I think Mozilla will do it, too. Here's the trick for Mozilla: -Type in about:config in the address bar. -Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String -Enter general.useragent.override as the name. -Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 20:10:00 up 2 days, 7:26, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.25, 0.24 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
Here's the trick for Mozilla: -Type in about:config in the address bar. -Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String -Enter general.useragent.override as the name. -Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. Wow that page is really cool! Do you know if there is a way of addig extra headers doing this As it would make it easier for me sending out e-mails to a university mailing list (which uses major domo and mojor cool) I just need to add an approved line into some e-mails I send out Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
Wow even windows update works However the Sun Java VM complains and says I should install the one for IE lol Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Eric Huff wrote: I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them. I think Mozilla will do it, too. Here's the trick for Mozilla: -Type in about:config in the address bar. -Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String -Enter general.useragent.override as the name. -Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
Hmm thw windows update doesn't get very far BT websit enow works though. O2 I'm still having dificulties. I thik it has something to do with security. Someone once told me that Mozilla lacks the comercial stuff requred to do this (hince why it works in Netscaoe) That make any sence? Mike Michael Lothian wrote: Wow even windows update works However the Sun Java VM complains and says I should install the one for IE lol Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Eric Huff wrote: I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them. I think Mozilla will do it, too. Here's the trick for Mozilla: -Type in about:config in the address bar. -Right click on Preference Name and choose New = String -Enter general.useragent.override as the name. -Enter Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) or Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) as the string. -Restart Mozilla and you're done. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I want to ditch windows
Hi all Heres a question I wondered if anybody could help me with. I really want to go fully onto linux think it will almost certainly be mandrake. I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool the bank into thinking it was ie. if not ill leave a small installation of the dreaded on the machine. many thanks john in the uk --- Heres a new Paid to Read email programm launched 1 August Johns Paid Mail 25c sign up bonus $5 payout Paid to read, click and signup. http://johnsptr.jmrenterprises.co.uk --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool I usu fire up opera on a site that requires it, and then email the company and explain/complain that requiring microso*ft is a bad thing. Konqueror has some choices, but i haven't tried them. I think Mozilla will do it, too. -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to ditch windows
On Sunday 07 September 2003 19:44, John Raynes wrote: Hi all Heres a question I wondered if anybody could help me with. I really want to go fully onto linux think it will almost certainly be mandrake. I have one problem tho and that is my bank will not allow me to log in on anything but ie is there anything which i could use that would fool the bank into thinking it was ie. if not ill leave a small installation of the dreaded on the machine. many thanks john in the uk --- Heres a new Paid to Read email programm launched 1 August Johns Paid Mail 25c sign up bonus $5 payout Paid to read, click and signup. http://johnsptr.jmrenterprises.co.uk --- Hi, Konqueror has the facilty to change its identification in the tools menu to various different browser IE being one of them, I normally use Suse Linux and couldn't get it to work with my bank account, however I installed Slackware 9.0 on my Laptop and with that I was able to log on to my bank account no problem at all, this is the first time I have been able to with Linux, I have since took off Slackware and installed Mandrake 9.1 but as yest haven't been able to access the internet with my laptop as I haven't got a modem for it yet so I can't tell you if Mandrake will work.. You find the browser in Tools Change Browser Identification then just select a browser, try different ones and see if any are successful.. Hope some of this helps. Richard G. -- Registered Linux User: 256848 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
