Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did move the iso images around on my hard drive and i'm sure that didn't help matters, winblows probably re-arranged some things on i have to admit, i have yet found errors when copying files under ms. but being ms bs os, it could happen. although next time i will do the checksum program and make sure everything is good before i go through hell again. a good checksum does help eliminate a lot of potential problems. i would like to see mandrake pick up on autocheck that red hat has started. i found 2 flaky cdrom drives when i tried an install with rh 8.0. most glad to see you will succumb to checksum. :) peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Where do you find that? http://www.md5summer.org/ http://www.etree.org/md5com.html peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:53:18 +0100 g [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: let me know when you get over your personal problems. you can take offense to any and all that i say. that is you right and problem. obviously from crak600's, reply, he is aware that there was no intent as in your accusations. grow up. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jun 2003 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them congrats. i am just now returning for a very long day. what i had intended would have been involved and lengthy. your problem is solved, i can play. btw. i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's. i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image and reason of asking above. anytime you dl files and md5 checksums are available, run md5. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- =+= think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email: text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments. =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote: i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's. no, never ran MD5. i looked into the program and got that uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?! i think most of the origonal problems were just user error though. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote:
no, never ran MD5. i looked into the program and got that
uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?! i
think most of the origonal problems were just user error though.
should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
'where to stick it'.
there are no stupid questions, only dumb mistakes by not asking.
how many hours have you spent with it??? { do i hear a snicker }
in essence, had you run md5 first thing after download,
you would have found problem at front end.
i, and others, are at fault for not insisting that you run md5
before making further attempt of 'feeding you'. lol w/bwg
so, again, remember, check sums can be used to check a sum total of a file.
if your check sums do not match, you have a bad file. tfs.
in closing, 'live and learn. die and forget. may you learn long.'
peace out.
tc,hago.
g
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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:53:18 +0100 g [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you 'where to stick it'. there are no stupid questions, only dumb mistakes by not asking. You've been advised about the smug arrogant attitude before. We're not all as brilliant and sophisticated as you, sorry. Give it a rest. BTW, how do you know it had anything at all to do with checksums? He said it could've been a bad ISO, but we discussed during this thread many other possible reasons, including Windows adding erroneous extensions or associations. Just take it easy, it's a newbie list. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? + Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution + comes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 17 Jun 2003 at 19:53, g wrote:
should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
'where to stick it'.
Well, honestly, what happened the first few times was i was just
burning everything as a straight data Cd like i would for a windows
program. that caused me 2 days of problems. to go along with that,
i did move the iso images around on my hard drive and i'm sure that
didn't help matters, winblows probably re-arranged some things on
it's own for me. thanks mr gates.
how many hours have you spent with it??? { do i hear a snicker }
how many hours have i spent with what? trying to get the Cds
working right and a good install or how many hours have i spent
playing around with mandrake? the installi won't even attempt to
count. there were problems. as far as playing with mandrake
itself...i've been splitting my time between windows and mandrake.
it's a slow transition for me, and i still have no clue how to set up the
mail stuff (see another e-mail i sent out for details).
in essence, had you run md5 first thing after download,
you would have found problem at front end.
i, and others, are at fault for not insisting that you run md5
before making further attempt of 'feeding you'. lol w/bwg
i'd almost be willing to put money on the problem being the way i
was burning the CDs. hands down. although next time i will do the
checksum program and make sure everything is good before i go
through hell again.
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Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As frustrated as you have been, I hope you can come to see that you have some place to go when things just aren't going your way. Everybody needs a place like that, you know? :0) Earlier on you were having problems with the Windows association to WinRAR, so I popped in what I knew was confusing you and some others. I just want to address this once more for your own clarity, and because as a Windows user still, this is important to know. WinRAR is a very powerful archive tool, and considered the best GUI interfaced program of its kind in that platform. The latest version have improved in that they can now natively work with ISO images. This isn't a plus for those of us who might be downloading/burning Linux ISO's from Windows. We don't want to open then in Windows for any reason. Outside of that, being able to open, extract from, add to, and even create our own ISO's is a very cool feature. I've been using WinRAR for a long time and prefer it over any other choice in Windows. If having WinRAR associate ISO's to itself causes you concern, no problem. Go into the preferences of the program and find the section that handles associations, then uncheck the last one for ISO's. Windows Explorer and My Computer (one in the same) will change the icons on all ISO's to the plain generic I don't know what this is! icon. I was also wondering if you had both My Computer and Windows Explorer set to show details. In M$'s infinite lack of wisdom, file details are turned off. All you have to help you figure out what a file is, is just the icon. Terribly confusing. If this has been turned off, you should turn it on. As you make the transition from Windows to Linux, you will come to appreciate seeing the full name of the files you have on your system. Good luck as you transcend to a higher and more rewarding plane of computing. Remember, it's OK to get mad while in Linux. It's only temporary, and relief stays with you a long time...unlike in Windows. :-D T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
At 09:59 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote: i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's. no, never ran MD5. i looked into the program and got that uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?! i think most of the origonal problems were just user error though. grab MDSummer for windows. works great it allows you to MD5 stuff from an environment you're familiar with. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
FemmeFatale wrote: grab MDSummer for windows. works great it allows you to MD5 stuff from an environment you're familiar with. Where do you find that? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
At 08:01 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: FemmeFatale wrote: grab MDSummer for windows. works great it allows you to MD5 stuff from an environment you're familiar with. Where do you find that? -- Brant Fitzsimmons google for it is the simplest thing..if you come up blank just email me offlist - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
ok, well, i havn't actually done the install yet. but i did do a fresh download of all 3 CDs last night. i re-burned CD one by telling it to create a CD from an ISO image. then went to install again and it actually went into the install! but i restarted the computer once i realized that it was going to work. why? because i wanted to re- burn CD 2 and 3 so i can get everything installed at once instead of having to go back in and do it later. so once i'm done burning cd2 and 3, i'll be doing a full install (as long as the downloaded files are good). so about an hour before i go back into the install process. it's 1pm EST, so if there's anything i need to know before doing the install, i guess i've got about an hour to know. i do want to say thank you to everyone that has given me help and suggestions since i first posted yesterday and for putting up with my ranting and frustration. thanks again! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 16 Jun 2003 at 13:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, well, i havn't actually done the install yet. but i did do a fresh download of all 3 CDs last night. i re-burned CD one by telling it to create a CD from an ISO image. then went to install again and it actually went into the install! but i restarted the computer once i realized that it was going to work. why? because i wanted to re- burn CD 2 and 3 so i can get everything installed at once instead of having to go back in and do it later. so once i'm done burning cd2 and 3, i'll be doing a full install (as long as the downloaded files are good). so about an hour before i go back into the install process. it's 1pm EST, so if there's anything i need to know before doing the install, i guess i've got about an hour to know. i do want to say thank you to everyone that has given me help and suggestions since i first posted yesterday and for putting up with my ranting and frustration. thanks again! Don't keep it to yourself, what did you do to get it going? Paul M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 16 Jun 2003 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't keep it to yourself, what did you do to get it going? Paul M. sorry. simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them around in my hard drive, which i was guilty of diong before to make space, using a partitioned 20GB hard drive and barely have any room left on it. i did order a 100GB hard drive last week to add to my system, so space will no longer be a problem. and i do have enough space on the current hard drive to install linux. went into my CD maker and simply clicked on the create CD from ISO image. done. i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image before (which i could still possibly have, i havn't done the install yet), or i could've moved something around in the hard drive and ended up losing a minute packet of info in a move. i'd say chalk it up to user error. CD 3 is halfway done burning...will be installing in about 20 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 01:21 Subject: Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost sorry. simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them around in my hard drive, which i was guilty of diong before to make space, using a partitioned 20GB hard drive and barely have any room left on it. i did order a 100GB hard drive last week to add to my system, so space will no longer be a problem. and i do have enough space on the current hard drive to install linux. went into my CD maker and simply clicked on the create CD from ISO image. done. i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image before (which i could still possibly have, i havn't done the install yet), or i could've moved something around in the hard drive and ended up losing a minute packet of info in a move. i'd say chalk it up to user error. CD 3 is halfway done burning...will be installing in about 20 minutes. glad to hear that. but if bad/incomplete image is a possible problem, then you REALLY should read up on md5 checksums if u're gonna be download any more linux distros in the future. http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/verifyiso.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On Monday 16 Jun 2003 6:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them around in my hard drive, which i was guilty of diong before to make space, using a partitioned 20GB hard drive and barely have any room left on it. Just one word of warning - if you're drastically short of space that can cause you some problems. If that's so, wait until the new disk comes. Good luck Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
