Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 12:09 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 11:55 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:19, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 10:16 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Just for future reference if you download from the command line with urpmi --noclean blah blah then it will not erase /var/cache/urpmi/rpms and if the same rpms are called again it will find them in the cache derek Thanks for the information, Derek. It's very useful to know about --noclean. Pity that the MCC install software facility doesn't give the choice of keeping the downloaded packages on the hard drive. Perhaps a future version will. Cheers Keith This does not work for me in mdk9.0. It deletes the file in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/. It worked in 8.1. Does anyone else have this problem? Sharrea Hmm You are right. That will teach me to believe 'man' pages derek That's funny, because it works OK for me in 9.0 and in 9.1 (beta 2). I haven't tweaked any settings. David -- Registered Linux User #207521 The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Saturday 25 January 2003 11:09 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 01:05, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith What I've seen - and found - is that sometimes a package THINKS it's broken when in fact it's really not - same with dependencies - a package, if it can't necessarily FIND it's dependencies will assume it needs them (again) and will TRY to put itself together accordingly. In order to fully bypass this issue, I always (recommend) that the library paths are checked in the /etc/ld.so.conf file - and a re-run of ldconfig be done prior to getting further. The file, /etc/ld.so.conf contains the library paths - which programs are dependent on. If the particular library path is NOT being searched, logically, the program decides it can't go further. My /etc/ld.so.conf file looks like this: /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/qt-1.45/lib /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib /usr/local/java/lib /usr/local/qt3-gcc2.96/lib /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/program /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/lib/ /opt/quasar/firebird/lib /opt/quasar/sybase/lib ...the most important to have in here are /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib - aside from the other directories. Once modifications have been made to this file, you must run ldconfig to rebuild the path cache. If you can get to that point, then you can try your package again and see if it works better - or at least with few dependencies. Hello Stephen. Thank you for your reply and all the information you have given me. The information is very useful to have, and I will write it down before I forget it. At my age, I daren't trust to memory! I didn't know about checking the ld.so.conf file or about running ldconfig; so I will do that as soon as I have sent this message. Cheers and thanks for your help. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Saturday 25 January 2003 7:49 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 25 January 2003 04:24 pm, Keith Powell wrote: snip For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks I have done some investigating, and it appears that Phoenix and Phoenix-java were not installed. The other packages it needed, were installed. So, I have downloaded just these two again and installed them separately. The Phoenix package installed, but the java package wouldn't install. It said that there was a size mismatch - whatever that means. Phoenix now runs, but I assume that it is without Java. I haven't had a chance to use it and find out. The installer did not mention any package by name, it merely said that there was a download error. I hope that Phoenix is worth trying, after all this trouble! Cheers Keith /snip Keith, out of curiosity I just downloaded Phoenix from Texstar. I just issued the command (as root) : urpmi phoenix and watched the text scroll by. No problems whatsoever. Then, I ran Phoenix, it seems a bit meager and not noticeable faster then Mozilla, but certainly slower then Konqueror and Opera. Then, trying to view a java-*enriched* page, it stopped and prompted me to download java, although java already resides on the box. I did that nevertheless ( must be done as root ! ) and again without any glitches. Now I have two java plugins ;-) However, I intend to get rid of it again. HTH Kaj Haulrich Kaj, thank you for your reply. I have been trying Phoenix, and can't see much difference between it and other light weight browsers. So it may not be staying on my hard drive for much longer. It was interesting to install (more or less!) and test. I have seen it reported that the Windows version of Phoenix is good, better than Internet Explorer. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installation fault
I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:05, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith Did the installer not give you a reason for the failure of the installation, such as a package conflict? I am afraid you will need to download again, but you could do this from the command line and add the --noclean option: that way, the downloaded packages will stay in /var/cache/urpmi/rmps. For example, as root: urpmi phoenix --noclean HTH David -- Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
what program were you trying to install? On Saturday 25 January 2003 09:05 am, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
et asked what package I was trying to install. Thanks for your reply. It is Phoenix from the Texstar site. On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 2:14 pm, David Robertson wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:05, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith Did the installer not give you a reason for the failure of the installation, such as a package conflict? I am afraid you will need to download again, but you could do this from the command line and add the --noclean option: that way, the downloaded packages will stay in /var/cache/urpmi/rmps. For example, as root: urpmi phoenix --noclean HTH David David. Thanks for your reply and the --noclean information. I have done some investigating, and it appears that Phoenix and Phoenix-java were not installed. The other packages it needed, were installed. So, I have downloaded just these two again and installed them separately. The Phoenix package installed, but the java package wouldn't install. It said that there was a size mismatch - whatever that means. Phoenix now runs, but I assume that it is without Java. I haven't had a chance to use it and find out. The installer did not mention any package by name, it merely said that there was a download error. I hope that Phoenix is worth trying, after all this trouble! Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Saturday 25 January 2003 04:24 pm, Keith Powell wrote: snip For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks I have done some investigating, and it appears that Phoenix and Phoenix-java were not installed. The other packages it needed, were installed. So, I have downloaded just these two again and installed them separately. The Phoenix package installed, but the java package wouldn't install. It said that there was a size mismatch - whatever that means. Phoenix now runs, but I assume that it is without Java. I haven't had a chance to use it and find out. The installer did not mention any package by name, it merely said that there was a download error. I hope that Phoenix is worth trying, after all this trouble! Cheers Keith /snip Keith, out of curiosity I just downloaded Phoenix from Texstar. I just issued the command (as root) : urpmi phoenix and watched the text scroll by. No problems whatsoever. Then, I ran Phoenix, it seems a bit meager and not noticeable faster then Mozilla, but certainly slower then Konqueror and Opera. Then, trying to view a java-*enriched* page, it stopped and prompted me to download java, although java already resides on the box. I did that nevertheless ( must be done as root ! ) and again without any glitches. Now I have two java plugins ;-) However, I intend to get rid of it again. HTH Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 01:05, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith What I've seen - and found - is that sometimes a package THINKS it's broken when in fact it's really not - same with dependencies - a package, if it can't necessarily FIND it's dependencies will assume it needs them (again) and will TRY to put itself together accordingly. In order to fully bypass this issue, I always (recommend) that the library paths are checked in the /etc/ld.so.conf file - and a re-run of ldconfig be done prior to getting further. The file, /etc/ld.so.conf contains the library paths - which programs are dependent on. If the particular library path is NOT being searched, logically, the program decides it can't go further. My /etc/ld.so.conf file looks like this: /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/qt-1.45/lib /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib /usr/local/java/lib /usr/local/qt3-gcc2.96/lib /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/program /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/lib/ /opt/quasar/firebird/lib /opt/quasar/sybase/lib ...the most important to have in here are /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib - aside from the other directories. Once modifications have been made to this file, you must run ldconfig to rebuild the path cache. If you can get to that point, then you can try your package again and see if it works better - or at least with few dependencies. -- Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:00:00 +1100 10:00am up 9 days, 19:43, 4 users, load average: 2.37, 1.47, 0.78 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- 'An appointment is an engagement to see someone, while a morningstar is a large lump of metal used for viciously crushing skulls. It is important not to confuse the two.' (Men at Arms) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
