Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source - upgrading to MD 9.1
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:03:16 -0700, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the iso's (md9.1) but each one said it stalled instead of finished (I used Konquerer). However, the size of each file was correct and it seemed to burn ok (I can read each disk in Konquerer). Is it safe? Compare the md5sums for the iso's official ones. If they match, the two are the same bit-for-bit. There's a cleverer way, but I just run md5sum name.iso and visually compare the output with the one on the web page. For a home desktop computer, what is the harm in one partition verses 3 (/, usr, home)? I set this up several months ago and left part of my drive open for a Win partition. I do not want to do that now (which is one of the reasons why I just want to redo the whole thing). I want to devote the entire 60gigs to Linux. I don't need to boot into multiple flavors either (Mandrake is just fine). One partition is reasonable for a home user, but if you want to re-install, having /home on a separate partition makes life much easier. Perhaps just do / and /home? Richard -- Get up and turn I loose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source - upgrading to MD 9.1
Thanks Richard, all the md5sums were identicle. Russ RichardA wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:03:16 -0700, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the iso's (md9.1) but each one said it stalled instead of finished (I used Konquerer). However, the size of each file was correct and it seemed to burn ok (I can read each disk in Konquerer). Is it safe? Compare the md5sums for the iso's official ones. If they match, the two are the same bit-for-bit. There's a cleverer way, but I just run md5sum name.iso and visually compare the output with the one on the web page. For a home desktop computer, what is the harm in one partition verses 3 (/, usr, home)? I set this up several months ago and left part of my drive open for a Win partition. I do not want to do that now (which is one of the reasons why I just want to redo the whole thing). I want to devote the entire 60gigs to Linux. I don't need to boot into multiple flavors either (Mandrake is just fine). One partition is reasonable for a home user, but if you want to re-install, having /home on a separate partition makes life much easier. Perhaps just do / and /home? Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:57:06 -0400 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yes - I saw that. I'm just amazed at the difference! Do you think he really added all that much? (I know he does have a great reputation for this). Miark has it. He's built it against a lot of really recent KDE stuff, and it looks like even some mp3 plugins as well (lame). -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source - upgrading to MD 9.1
Hi All, Thanks for the help so far. I finally got KDE working again (picky little bugger). Anyway, I am either going to upgrade to MD9.1 or do a complete reinstall before I try installing BibleTime again. I downloaded the iso's (md9.1) but each one said it stalled instead of finished (I used Konquerer). However, the size of each file was correct and it seemed to burn ok (I can read each disk in Konquerer). Is it safe? For a home desktop computer, what is the harm in one partition verses 3 (/, usr, home)? I set this up several months ago and left part of my drive open for a Win partition. I do not want to do that now (which is one of the reasons why I just want to redo the whole thing). I want to devote the entire 60gigs to Linux. I don't need to boot into multiple flavors either (Mandrake is just fine). Thanks for any suggestions Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Here is the directory for the downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=954 For starters, do I need the source .bz2 or the source .gz (or does it really matter?) Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 September 2003 03:04 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Here is the directory for the downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=954 For starters, do I need the source .bz2 or the source .gz (or does it really matter?) Thanks Russ The compressed format doesn't matter. If you use Konqueror as a file manager, just right-click a compressed file and choose something like *extract here*. This will create a directory within the actual directory i.e. /Home/russ/bibletime. Within that directory you'll probably find a file named *configure*. Now, first of all, make sure you have the *development* packages installed, especially gcc (the GNU C Compiler - assuming Bibletime is written in C). Then, download a platform-independent version of the program, extract it as described and go into that directory. Read the *README* and *other help files* files. Normally, all you have to do now, is to issue the command (as root) : *./configure* (if the program is well-written this will figure out how your box is set up). Watch the progress. If everything is O.K., then issue the command : *make*. Finally, issue the command : *install* or *make install* according to the *README* file. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 Sep 2003 6:41 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2003 03:04 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Here is the directory for the downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=954 For starters, do I need the source .bz2 or the source .gz (or does it really matter?) Thanks Russ The compressed format doesn't matter. If you use Konqueror as a file manager, just right-click a compressed file and choose something like *extract here*. This will create a directory within the actual directory i.e. /Home/russ/bibletime. Within that directory you'll probably find a file named *configure*. Now, first of all, make sure you have the *development* packages installed, especially gcc (the GNU C Compiler - assuming Bibletime is written in C). Then, download a platform-independent version of the program, extract it as described and go into that directory. Read the *README* and *other help files* files. Normally, all you have to do now, is to issue the command (as root) : *./configure* (if the program is well-written this will figure out how your box is set up). Watch the progress. If everything is O.K., then issue the command : *make*. Finally, issue the command : *install* or *make install* according to the *README* file. HTH Kaj Haulrich. IME, only the make install needs to be done as root. In fact it's bad to build the package as root, because that will leave root owning all the intermediate files. I notice there's a src.rpm on the website. I've never used one, but might this be a better way to go? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
Although I do not know exactly what an src.rpm file is, I do know that that was in the KDE2.0 list and not the KDE3. However, the directions given to install this from the source do not seem to be all that difficult so I am going to give it a go sometime this evening. I'll let you know how it turns out Thanks for the help Russ Richard Urwin wrote: I notice there's a src.rpm on the website. I've never used one, but might this be a better way to go? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
One glitch here, how can I tell if this is installed? It may not be since I may have figure this had something to do with writing software when I installed MD and I may have chosen not to. I'm not sure though since it was so long ago that I did it. Thanks Russ Kaj Haulrich wrote: Now, first of all, make sure you have the *development* packages installed, especially gcc (the GNU C Compiler - assuming Bibletime is written in C). Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 September 2003 03:49 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 14 Sep 2003 6:41 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2003 03:04 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Here is the directory for the downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95 4 For starters, do I need the source .bz2 or the source .gz (or does it really matter?) Thanks Russ The compressed format doesn't matter. If you use Konqueror as a file manager, just right-click a compressed file and choose something like *extract here*. This will create a directory within the actual directory i.e. /Home/russ/bibletime. Within that directory you'll probably find a file named *configure*. Now, first of all, make sure you have the *development* packages installed, especially gcc (the GNU C Compiler - assuming Bibletime is written in C). Then, download a platform-independent version of the program, extract it as described and go into that directory. Read the *README* and *other help files* files. Normally, all you have to do now, is to issue the command (as root) : *./configure* (if the program is well-written this will figure out how your box is set up). Watch the progress. If everything is O.K., then issue the command : *make*. Finally, issue the command : *install* or *make install* according to the *README* file. HTH Kaj Haulrich. IME, only the make install needs to be done as root. In fact it's bad to build the package as root, because that will leave root owning all the intermediate files. You are absolutely correct, sorry ! I notice there's a src.rpm on the website. I've never used one, but might this be a better way to go? Yes, I think so, but never tried it. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 08:04:29 -0700 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Installing from source is going to be *even more difficult*, because you will not have urpmi to resolve the dependencies for you. I did a urpmi --test bibletime just to see what the dependencies were, and it's ridiculous, to say the least: To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (134 MB): bibletime-1.3-1tex.i586 kdebase-3.1.3-4tex.i586 kdebase-devel-3.1.3-4tex.i586 kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-4tex.i586 kdelibs-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586 kdelibs-common-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586 kdelibs-devel-3.1.3-9.1tex.i586 liblame0-3.93.1-4plf.i586 libqt3-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586 libqt3-common-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586 libqt3-devel-3.1.2-9.1tex.i586 libsword1-1.5.6-1tex.i586 notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf.i586 now, this could be because Tex has built the package with a lot of extra features, so I downloaded the source myself, and I could not get it to build, and I have just about every devel library there is. It failed on the sword devel library, so I installed that, it still failed, wrong version. and then you are still going to have to install libcrypto, etc. like you saw before, when you were trying to install from rpm. go back to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php, configure your sources for 9.0, follow the simple instructions, and you should be able to install using urpmi. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it. -- Oscar Wilde, The Portrait of Mr. W.H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday September 14 2003 10:04 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. Probly, but before you go with a tarball, try to find a Mandrake src.rpm. I just looked an found one for 9.2, so they must exist. Try an find one closest to version 9.0 and, as root rpm --rebuild bibletime-1.2.2-2mdk.src.rpm (that's the 9.2 cooker version, it probly won't work) If that doesn't work out for you, then you'll need to learn about compiling from source tarballs. Start here, read all 3 pages http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/basics/bsource.html Hint, when you believe you're ready to compile, use ./configure --prefix=/usr rather than just plain ./configure That'll put the binaries created in directories normally used by Mandrake. Otherwise the program will probly put 'em in /usr/local You'll probly have more questions after readin mandrakeuser, so holler back ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 September 2003 04:07 pm, Russ wrote: One glitch here, how can I tell if this is installed? It may not be since I may have figure this had something to do with writing software when I installed MD and I may have chosen not to. I'm not sure though since it was so long ago that I did it. Thanks Russ Kaj Haulrich wrote: Now, first of all, make sure you have the *development* packages installed, especially gcc (the GNU C Compiler - assuming Bibletime is written in C). Kaj Haulrich. Just open the Mandrake Control Center, go to *install software* and if the development tools show up here, they aren't installed. Install them right away. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % MicroSCOft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 Sep 2003 4:04 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I attempted to install BibleTime from an rpm designed for mdk9.1 because they had none for 9.0 (which I am running). I recieved several failed dependancies. I was able to get an answer from them and was told I would probably need to compile it from a source code. I have never done this but I guess I should learn if I am going to be running Linux. I would appreciate it if someone could kinda walk me through it since I really have no clue as to where to begin. Here is the directory for the downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=954 For starters, do I need the source .bz2 or the source .gz (or does it really matter?) Thanks Russ There is an RPM for Bibletime for Mandrake 9.0 that was made for Mandrake Club. You can find an RPM here ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.0/i586 HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 September 2003 12:14 pm, HaywireMac wrote: I did a urpmi --test bibletime just to see what the dependencies were, and it's ridiculous, to say the least: Wow - I'm not using Texstar and it wasn't nearly that bad. It went like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# urpmi bibletime One of the following packages is needed: 1- libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 2- sword-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 What is your choice? (1-2) 1 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (2 MB): bibletime-1.2.2-1mdk.i586 libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/bibletime-1.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bibletime-1.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:libsword1 ## 2:bibletime ## -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:09:49 -0400 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Wow - I'm not using Texstar and it wasn't nearly that bad. It went like this: which I pointed out...it was probably because of the way Texstar built it. :-\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]# urpmi bibletime One of the following packages is needed: 1- libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 2- sword-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 What is your choice? (1-2) 1 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (2 MB): bibletime-1.2.2-1mdk.i586 libsword1-1.5.5-2mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y which illustrates why advised him to update his sources and use urpmi, not install from source. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ For your penance, say five Hail Marys and one loud BLAH! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sunday 14 September 2003 10:25 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:09:49 -0400 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Wow - I'm not using Texstar and it wasn't nearly that bad. It went like this: which I pointed out...it was probably because of the way Texstar built it. :-\ Yes - I saw that. I'm just amazed at the difference! Do you think he really added all that much? (I know he does have a great reputation for this). -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing BibleTime from source
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:57:06 -0400, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes - I saw that. I'm just amazed at the difference! Do you think he really added all that much? (I know he does have a great reputation for this). * He's packaged version 1.3, not 1.2. * If you use Texstar's packages with any regularity, you have all those other dependencies (all KDE 3.1.3 stuff) anyway. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
