Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 15 Jun 2003 3:13 am, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 11:49, JoeHill wrote:

  WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
  SEVERE filesystem damage.
 
  Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

 OK, the easiest way to handle this is to boot from the first install CD
 then type rescue after hitting F1.  From there you'll get a menu which
 allows you to get a console without having your filesystems active.
 Then you can safely fsck.ext3 /dev/hda6

The correct way is to drop to single user mode with telinit 1.
Then unmount /home if it is still mounted read-write.

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-15 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:22:55 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

Did you rip to wav's or mp3's?  I've never had any luck 
 normalizing anything but wav's. I get segfaults and corrupt mp3's 
 trying to normalize them ... just part way thru ;

rip to wav. I didn't know normalize would even work on mp3z, I use
mp3gain for that.

  Now, if I try to even list the contents of the dir, the shell
  freezes, ctrl-c will not get me out.
 
  I tried rm -rf ~/mp3/chris, it freezes too, and again I cannot
  ctrl-c out of it. Same as root, why I thought that would work, I
  don't know, LOL.
  Any way out of this? I just want to delete the dir and start
  over. I cannot even delete the parent dir!
 
  Try to delete it with konqueror-super user mode. Sometimes that 
 works when all else fails. You might try Rox or MC also.

Everything just froze...ROX could not terminate child process.

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-15 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:10:15 +0100
Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 The correct way is to drop to single user mode with telinit 1.
 Then unmount /home if it is still mounted read-write.

That would have avoided a reboot? In any case, would it have allowed me
to simply delete or otherwise dispose of the directory without running
fsck?

Thanks so much for all the interest guys, that's why I love this place.

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Urwin
On Sunday 15 Jun 2003 2:39 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:10:15 +0100

 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  The correct way is to drop to single user mode with telinit 1.
  Then unmount /home if it is still mounted read-write.

 That would have avoided a reboot?

Yes. It would probably have maintained the uptime too.

 In any case, would it have allowed me
 to simply delete or otherwise dispose of the directory without running
 fsck?

IMHO, you should always fshk first. doing anything with a corrupted filesystem 
is asking for trouble as it can spread the corruption.

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Brian Parish
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 09:25, JoeHill wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I ripped some cd tracks to make a cd for a friend chris.
 
 I ran normalize -m * in the dir ~/mp3/chris, and it segfaulted part
 of the way through.
 
 Now, if I try to even list the contents of the dir, the shell freezes,
 ctrl-c will not get me out.
 
 I tried rm -rf ~/mp3/chris, it freezes too, and again I cannot ctrl-c
 out of it. Same as root, why I thought that would work, I don't know,
 LOL.
 
 Any way out of this? I just want to delete the dir and start over. I
 cannot even delete the parent dir!
 
 Any help appreciated, as always.
Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
partition?

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 14 June 2003 07:25 pm, JoeHill wrote:


 Any way out of this? I just want to delete the dir and start over. I
 cannot even delete the parent dir!

 Any help appreciated, as always.

First thing I would do is boot up with wither the rescue cd or something like 
knoppix and run fsck on the partition in question to make sure the filesystem 
is not corrupt, or if it is, to fix it.  It sounds like the segfault happened 
in the middle of a write operation that was going on.
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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread JoeHill
On 15 Jun 2003 10:16:29 +1000
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
 partition?

everything else is fine. only that directory is screwed. I am not
familiar with fsck, but from the man page it seems to be a big stick for
a little problem. one thing I am not clear on, is there any way like
fsck to just apply to the affected directory?

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 10:37, JoeHill wrote:
 On 15 Jun 2003 10:16:29 +1000
 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
  partition?
 
 everything else is fine. only that directory is screwed. I am not
 familiar with fsck, but from the man page it seems to be a big stick for
 a little problem. one thing I am not clear on, is there any way like
 fsck to just apply to the affected directory?

Have you tried to rename that directory, or move the contents of that
directory elsewhere, then delete the directory, then recreate the
directory and move all the old contents back into it?

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread JoeHill
On 15 Jun 2003 10:55:46 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Have you tried to rename that directory, or move the contents of that
 directory elsewhere, then delete the directory, then recreate the
 directory and move all the old contents back into it?

I can rename the dir, but I can't delete, move, or even list the
contents of the directory. :(

Also, fsck says it only applies to ext2 filesystems, and I'm on ext3. Is
that true that it will only check ext2?

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread JoeHill
On 15 Jun 2003 10:16:29 +1000
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
 partition?

hmmm, this does not sound encouraging:

fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
/dev/hda6 is mounted.  

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:46 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On 15 Jun 2003 10:55:46 +1000

 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Have you tried to rename that directory, or move the contents of that
  directory elsewhere, then delete the directory, then recreate the
  directory and move all the old contents back into it?

 I can rename the dir, but I can't delete, move, or even list the
 contents of the directory. :(

 Also, fsck says it only applies to ext2 filesystems, and I'm on ext3. Is
 that true that it will only check ext2?

somebody jump in here but does not ext3fsck work like fsck?
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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:49 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On 15 Jun 2003 10:16:29 +1000

 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
  partition?

 hmmm, this does not sound encouraging:

 fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 /dev/hda6 is mounted.

 WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
 SEVERE filesystem damage.

 Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no
Rats, I sent before I thought, I was thinking of the e2fsck command.  I used 
it once in the past and all was ok. Mayhap I was just lucky. ???
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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Brian Parish
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 11:49, JoeHill wrote:
 On 15 Jun 2003 10:16:29 +1000
 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Sounds like the file system is corrupt.  Have you tried fsck on this
  partition?
 
 hmmm, this does not sound encouraging:
 
 fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002)
 /dev/hda6 is mounted.  
 
 WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
 SEVERE filesystem damage.
 
 Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

OK, the easiest way to handle this is to boot from the first install CD
then type rescue after hitting F1.  From there you'll get a menu which
allows you to get a console without having your filesystems active. 
Then you can safely fsck.ext3 /dev/hda6

Note that fsck normally lives in /sbin.  You may need to explicitly
reference that as there will probably be no path set for you.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread Curt Tresenriter
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:05:33 -0500, Dennis Myers 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:46 pm, JoeHill wrote:
On 15 Jun 2003 10:55:46 +1000

Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 Have you tried to rename that directory, or move the contents of that
 directory elsewhere, then delete the directory, then recreate the
 directory and move all the old contents back into it?
I can rename the dir, but I can't delete, move, or even list the
contents of the directory. :(
Also, fsck says it only applies to ext2 filesystems, and I'm on ext3. Is
that true that it will only check ext2?
somebody jump in here but does not ext3fsck work like fsck?
Joe,

I just looked at man e2fsck looks like it might be what you need for 
ext3.
It



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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread JoeHill
On 15 Jun 2003 12:13:19 +1000
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

  WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
  SEVERE filesystem damage.
  

Ah, so this is the problem is that fsck is dangerous when run on an
active filesystem.

 OK, the easiest way to handle this is to boot from the first install
 CD then type rescue after hitting F1.  From there you'll get a menu
 which allows you to get a console without having your filesystems
 active. Then you can safely fsck.ext3 /dev/hda6

Still seems like an awfully harsh treatment for such a minor problem.
It's just one directory out of the whole system, sheesh... I can't
believe there's no way to just delete it!

How about just fsck.ext3 /home?

Thanks for all the help guys!

so much for my uptime! :(

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Re: [newbie] Interesting Dilemma

2003-06-14 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:25:51 -0400
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

Well, fsck fsck! 

All I had to do was reboot...

damn! I had a good one goin there... 11 days, no problems and then
something like normalize brings me down...and from the CLI no less!

Oh well, start again :(

Thanks for all the suggestions, but the good news is, once again, Linux
fixes itself!

The files are all still there, gonna delete them just to be safe and
start over.

Cheers me mateys!
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