Re: [newbie] Junk OS
I have been using Linux (Mandrake v7.0) only for about one week. I must admit that it does have a steep learning curve and some difficulties in user friendliness but I am more than happy with it than with Windows 98. Whenever I use Windows, it crashes every couple of hours. I run memory intensive mathematics and data analysis programs but it is a nerve wracking "adventure" with Windows because I never know if it is going to clunk out a few seconds before outputting the results of a 30 minute (or hours long) calculation. Since I have been running my programs and analysis on Linux, it has not crashed a single time... not only that but it is easy to "kill" any program that might be causing trouble without crashing the entire system. Linux is not for everyone and it does require much work on the part of the user. But Windows is far from perfect. Windows does not detect my monitor correctly, nor does the stupid 'Add Hardware Wizard' ever run correctly without crashing or freezing my entire system (often I have to resort to complex trickery in order to get new hardware in my system). Windows is, frankly, designed for the village idiots. It manages to make everything so obscure and difficult in the name of 'user friendliness' that nothing works correctly. I would much rather have the complete control that Linux offers over the pre-packaged and annoying features and defaults of Windows. It took me 3 days to correctly install Linux on my home PC and I am still working on setting up my sound card and modem... but I can tell you that once I get the hang of Linux I will be using Windows only once in a blue moon when I am absolutely required to do so. Eventually, Linux will acquire all the "neat" features that are contained in Windows and make it as simple to use as Windows (hopefully without sacrificing the stability, speed and ease of use that it now possesses). Rome was not built in one day. Finally (this is getting long), I have found many of the individuals on this mailing list extremely helpful and courteous. I would much rather use my brain and the help of other Linux users when I have a problem than paying Microsoft outrageous amounts of money in order to get half the assistance that I have gotten from the people on this list. I had a problem with LILO but was able to fix it within an hour because of the assistance of Gene. Sincerely, Elvis Dieguez - Original Message - From: Vincent Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: [newbie] Junk OS Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows
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Signed New beleaver in MS windows And your telling them to spell check their manual? How can you be so sure YOU know how to spell. LOL. Tom
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O Signed New beleaver in MS windows Your telling them to spell check their manual? LOL. Tom
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Vincent Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. Well how would you like to get support? An 800#? But why should you have to pay for phone service just to get support? Perhaps they can send a technician to install the darn thing for you or anyone else w/o the wherewithall to do for themselves! besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ You should spellcheck your e-mail (see "secound" above). It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) === No, after YOU screwed it up in you FAILURE to install it properly. === and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows = Hey mr. "beleaver" time to spellcheck again. I do "believe" windows is you best bet. But none of us here can give you back your money. We're just users (who managed to get the software installed). Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Junk OS
This is blatant flamebait and doesn't deserve any more of a response than what I'm now giving it. Everyone please stop replying to it and let's get back to answering people's real questions. DvB On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Vincent Dickerson wrote: Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mama said not to feed the troll but... First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you This list is [users helping users] ,not Mandrake's main support. If you don't understand how to partition your drive why are you doing it? (THINK) Secound,Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Ah, let me guess you don't have a manual for you monitor? Find display modes and pick which ones are close to a match for yours. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. If you have the power pack you get free phone support for so many days. Like I said this is a newbie mailing list. If you have a question ask it. Someone may answer it if they can. Not everyone lives in the same time zones, or checks their mail at the same time. So the answer may not come for a few hours, or even days. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ Nice to hear since there was 6 misspelled words in this short rant. That's just in the first glance. Better check your MS spellchecker. It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. Oh is that why they continue to lose market share? Humm... I didn't know. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) It isn't the car it's the driver. and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). Wow it takes me about 20-30 mins to do a everything install of Mandrake. I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" That's the same question we asked Microsoft since their licensing agreement says they will refund the price if you don't want the OS. Since it comes with your new PC even if you don't want it. Signed New beleaver in MS windows Sorry, but I don't think you ever intended to believe anything else. - -- LIFE'S LAWS If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.1 iQA/AwUBOKTBB5Ic6oBNVYv1EQL0ZQCgr+0W9zlr47DgcUnDrw6enM/8ei8An1gn H96g0oeezSoHCc8lB53qfJRQ =FkTn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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surge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Signed New beleaver in MS windows And your telling them to spell check their manual? How can you be so sure YOU know how to spell. LOL. Tom == I think that's "YOU'RE" ;o) Sorry, couldn't resist.8^) Mike ## Michael Scottaline Linux 2.2.13 ## Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Junk OS
Who told you Linux would just jump into your box and start working? I don't see that in the manual anywhere (mispelled or not). I agree, windoze is far easier to install than any distro of linux, but the power of Linux is far past windoze.. I mean, I am at work, checking my mail on my Linux box through telnet. Also earlier today, I installed a new kernel, rebooted my system, and wrote a few emails, and I havent even seen my computer! I can do all this, and all I did was install the basic installation about 5 days ago... and on your SCSI drive...if you think Linux (or any OS) has "screwed up" your drive, you do need help, and you sholdn't be trying to install ANY OS. Joe Sircy On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, you wrote: Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows
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Linux is not for everyone and it does require much work on the part of the user. I've often thought about that But then I remember how long it took me to learn 'Doze Eventually, Linux will acquire all the "neat" features that are contained in Windows and make it as simple to use as Windows (hopefully without sacrificing the stability, speed and ease of use that it now possesses). KDE 2.0 is 'spozed to be out this spring There are books out for the KDE desktop... MarkP
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O Signed New beleaver in MS windows Your telling them to spell check their manual? LOL. Tom No he spelled it right... He a Beleaver because he is going to beleaving soon... Hopefully... :-) MarkP
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El jue, 28 ene 1999, escribiste: Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. Yup. I think you need an OS that comes bundled with a brain. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows -- Guillermo Belli - Linux User #131340 ICQ #38321312 http://sites.netscape.net/memo81 (under construction)
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O.K. I do understand where Vincent is coming from. Having been an consultant back in the DOS days, I can remember allot of people who were learning to get things done (More than just running a simple program or two). I myself gave up on Microsoft when Win 95 came out, and I have been looking for something different for along time. This is where Linux came in. I really enjoy Linux and I have gotten hold of a few distributions. Mandrake 7.0 is by far the easiest so far. But remember I have a better understanding of hardware than your average person. Linux does have a way to go for the average desktop user. But from following it over the last year, I have seen great strides in that direction. Vincent don't give up so soon. It will all come together, and be much more user guiding as they get all of it worked out. As for Tech Support, if you bought the Mandrake 6.1 Deluxe it comes with free telephone support. Also I have to say this to a few others. Remember this is for newbies and taking a hard stance for one or the other, you are inviting a negative response. Vincent Dickerson wrote: Hello; First of all, When you ADVERTISE "free tech support" that means FREE. not me having to pay for an internet connection. besides if i am in the middle of patitioning my hard drive, How in the hell am i supposed to email you(THINK). Secound, Your book is full of inconsistantcies, you software(installation) will not even recocgnize a generic monitor. Now with all of the problems that i have encountered with "your" software, it would take about 6 months to install it if i had to wait 24 hrs. for every question to be answered. Next, If your going to sell something, it would make good sense to spell check your manual. GEEZZZ It is easy to see why Microsoft has the major part of this market. I can exit your(junk) and repair my SCSI drive(after your OS has completely screwed it up) and one hour later it is up and running(network cards and all). I guess you are wanting to know what i am getting at here. WHO DO I SEE ABOUT GETTING MY MONEY BACK? "yea right" Signed New beleaver in MS windows
