Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
Hi, This sounds a bit soothing for me. ;-) Now it takes about 45 minutes to compile the whole kernel. I've heard the Pentium4 deficiency problem before I bought this laptop. But the comments I found gave me an impression that P4 1.8GHz is aboutthe same performance as a P3 1.2GHz, but there is SSE2 to consider. So I bought it. So I'd be happy to keep this laptop with the similar performance with an Athlon 1.4 GHz. Maybe I should get a P3 1.2 instead? To wait for Centrino product means another 12 months maybe. Many thanks, Wei make dep clean bzImage~ 5 mins. time make modules ~ 38 mins. make modules_install install ~ 1 min. On a 1.4 gig Athlon. But it's always 1.4 gig ... takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or so that you can read almost every one of them. Is it normal? The gcc is version 3.2. ... your laptop (mobile cpu) isn't always 1.8 ghz. It slows down under load. A P3 would probly be faster too. So yes, it's a hardware deficiency ... get a real computer ;~ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
Many thanks for your input. Have you done anything to the OS such as optimising or tuning? Since this is a new laptop and I am thinking of returning it if there is a hardware deficiency with it. On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:13:48 -0600 Robert Wideman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OUCH, how the hell??? My computers and times that i have used for linux: -Compaq 7180 (p100) and it takes 1.5 hours to compile a complete kernel. -Clone all SCSI p3-450 and it takes 30 mins to compile a complete kernel. -Dell Optiplex GX1 P3-450 and it takes 35 mins to compile a complete kernel. You guys might want to rethink your timing. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Burns Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine On Mon, January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: *snip* I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules *snip takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or *snip* I have a P4 1.6 desktop, and it takes me about 45 minutes to compile everything, all modules and everything. My P3-500 desktop takes almost 2 hours, however, my P3-500 laptop takes over 3 hours. In case you didn't know, ALL x86 laptop cpu's are NOT the same cpu as the desktops, which makes them just a little better than half the speed of their respective desktop counterparts. While they both run at the same speed, the pipelining, power control, etc etc is much different. Data bus width also comes into play. AFAIK the only computers that use the exact same processors for both desktops and laptops are Apples. So, in answer to your question, no, there's probably nothing wrong with your hardware other than the fact it's a Mobility CPU, hooked to the cheapest components the maker of that laptop could find. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- You are old, Father William, the young man said, All your papers these days look the same; Those William's would be better unread -- Do these facts never fill you with shame? In my youth, Father William replied to his son, I wrote wonderful papers galore; But the great reputation I found that I'd won, Made it pointless to think any more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
Hi, I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or so that you can read almost every one of them. Is it normal? The gcc is version 3.2. Is there anything that I can do to speed it up? I know I could omit some modules to speed it up but I just want to know how long the compiling takes on your machine. BTW, if it is hardware related, is there any software that can detect the current running frequency of the CPU? Cheers, We Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
On Mon, January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: *snip* I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules *snip takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or *snip* I have a P4 1.6 desktop, and it takes me about 45 minutes to compile everything, all modules and everything. My P3-500 desktop takes almost 2 hours, however, my P3-500 laptop takes over 3 hours. In case you didn't know, ALL x86 laptop cpu's are NOT the same cpu as the desktops, which makes them just a little better than half the speed of their respective desktop counterparts. While they both run at the same speed, the pipelining, power control, etc etc is much different. Data bus width also comes into play. AFAIK the only computers that use the exact same processors for both desktops and laptops are Apples. So, in answer to your question, no, there's probably nothing wrong with your hardware other than the fact it's a Mobility CPU, hooked to the cheapest components the maker of that laptop could find. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- You are old, Father William, the young man said, All your papers these days look the same; Those William's would be better unread -- Do these facts never fill you with shame? In my youth, Father William replied to his son, I wrote wonderful papers galore; But the great reputation I found that I'd won, Made it pointless to think any more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
OUCH, how the hell??? My computers and times that i have used for linux: -Compaq 7180 (p100) and it takes 1.5 hours to compile a complete kernel. -Clone all SCSI p3-450 and it takes 30 mins to compile a complete kernel. -Dell Optiplex GX1 P3-450 and it takes 35 mins to compile a complete kernel. You guys might want to rethink your timing. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Burns Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine On Mon, January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: *snip* I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules *snip takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or *snip* I have a P4 1.6 desktop, and it takes me about 45 minutes to compile everything, all modules and everything. My P3-500 desktop takes almost 2 hours, however, my P3-500 laptop takes over 3 hours. In case you didn't know, ALL x86 laptop cpu's are NOT the same cpu as the desktops, which makes them just a little better than half the speed of their respective desktop counterparts. While they both run at the same speed, the pipelining, power control, etc etc is much different. Data bus width also comes into play. AFAIK the only computers that use the exact same processors for both desktops and laptops are Apples. So, in answer to your question, no, there's probably nothing wrong with your hardware other than the fact it's a Mobility CPU, hooked to the cheapest components the maker of that laptop could find. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- You are old, Father William, the young man said, All your papers these days look the same; Those William's would be better unread -- Do these facts never fill you with shame? In my youth, Father William replied to his son, I wrote wonderful papers galore; But the great reputation I found that I'd won, Made it pointless to think any more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
On Monday January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules make dep clean bzImage~ 5 mins. time make modules ~ 38 mins. make modules_install install ~ 1 min. On a 1.4 gig Athlon. But it's always 1.4 gig ... takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or so that you can read almost every one of them. Is it normal? The gcc is version 3.2. ... your laptop (mobile cpu) isn't always 1.8 ghz. It slows down under load. A P3 would probly be faster too. So yes, it's a hardware deficiency ... get a real computer ;~ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 04:01, Wei Wang wrote: Hi, I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules takes 80 minutes to finish. Every gcc stays on the screen for a second or so that you can read almost every one of them. Is it normal? The gcc is version 3.2. Is there anything that I can do to speed it up? I know I could omit some modules to speed it up but I just want to know how long the compiling takes on your machine. BTW, if it is hardware related, is there any software that can detect the current running frequency of the CPU? Cheers, We Part of the issue in the compiling of the kernel is how you chose to set the kernel up. If the setup has to recompile thousands of modules and the likes, it could take quite a bit of time - but yeah, 80 minutes does sound a bit strange... Prior to doing this, have you taken the time to try to tune or optimise your system before doing the kernel compile? Very helpful to do this... -- Tue Jan 21 07:05:00 EST 2003 7:05am up 4 days, 16:48, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.14 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen Of stars in shadow shimmering. Tin'uviel was dancing there To music of a pipe unseen, And light of stars was in her hair, And in her raiment glimmering. There Beren came from mountains colds, And lost he wandered under leaves, And where the Elven-river rolled He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves, And her hair like shadow following. Enchantment healed his weary feet That over hills were doomed to roam; And forth he hastened, strong and fleet, And grasped at moonbeams glistening. Through woven woods in Elvenhome She lightly fled on dancing feet, And left him lonely still to roam In the silent forest listening. -- J. R. R. Tolkien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
