[newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel I dont have linux on the laptop yet I only use it when I am at work All the software I use on it is for XP I am going to try VMware or other things so I can run Linux on it some day Just have not had time yet to play with it Plus I need a spare laptop ( have not been able to talk wife into that yet ) so that I have one to use while I play I need to get it running again I use it to log on to DDC control systems at work I have not been able to get into the BIOS yet It overheats too fast I was just trying a few minutes ago and I did hear the fan come on once but that was all Is there any way to keep the fan on all the time I am not worried about battery power because I have a outlet in the DDC panals I build so I dont use the battery much Thanks Greg -- Linux Mandrake Rules __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Thanks for the tip I will look at it and what the setting are and get back to you I used to hear the fan cycling off and on but now I dont hear it at all It does have the AMD CPU in it Greg If you are using acpi, check to see if you have an entry for the fan in the /proc/acpi tree. I don't know about your laptop, but I know the fan can be software controlled on some laptops. For that matter, I used to have a utility to control the fan on my old Toshiba 400CDT under Linux, and it didn't suport acpi. Mikkel I dont have linux on the laptop yet I only use it when I am at work All the software I use on it is for XP I am going to try VMware or other things so I can run Linux on it some day Just have not had time yet to play with it Plus I need a spare laptop ( have not been able to talk wife into that yet ) so that I have one to use while I play I need to get it running again I use it to log on to DDC control systems at work I have not been able to get into the BIOS yet It overheats too fast I was just trying a few minutes ago and I did hear the fan come on once but that was all Is there any way to keep the fan on all the time I am not worried about battery power because I have a outlet in the DDC panals I build so I dont use the battery much Thanks Greg Sometimes there is a setting in the BIOS for that, but I don't think it will help in this case. If it overheats before you can get into the BIOS, then the fan probably is going to need to be replaced. It sounds like it starts to run, and then binds up. You may be able to get it going again for a SHORT while if you can get at the bearings, and put a drop of oil on them. On some laptops this can be done with a toothpick or straw. Others, you can not even see the fan... Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
